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This video offers a great description of a basic thread of the MHRM and it does so in a very polished, eye catching and professional manner.  We have numerous youtube channels such as my own that have been doing videos on men’s issues for some time but this one stands out as being remarkably…well,  you watch it and add your own adjectives. I think it is perfect to send to people who are completely unaware of men’s issues in any way.

If they have an ounce of compassion they will be moved by what they see.

The vidoeographer of this wonderful piece is a man from India named Jerald Santhosh.  He works in motiongraphics, kinetic typography, and does posters, artwork and more. He is a part of the men’s movement in India and we welcome him to AVFM.  He is planning to open a web site and to do more videos so stay tuned and please do subscribe to his Youtube channel after you watch the video. –TG

Transcript of video:
Married men commit suicide at a higher rate in our society.
A married man lives his life supporting his wife and children.
When he faces abuse, we as society are indifferent to him.
A man is severely assaulted by his wife or girlfriend every 14.6 seconds.
When a man is battered by his spouse there is no shelter which would take him.
The government which should protect him, will imprison him even if he is falsely accused by his wife.
He will lose his job, and will be subjected to social shame.
Family courts incentivises his abuser by extorting money from him.
Divorce alienates him from his children, takes away his house, and his money. A man who has lost his children, house, and social image receives no help from the same government which he pays tax to.
All this helplessness leads to drug and alcohol abuse which also makes him depressed and suicidal.
This is a global phenomenon.Lists of various suicide statistics per year of men, which far exceeds women’s rates:
  • America 24,672 – 5950
  • India 63,343 – 31,921
  • Canada 2,989 – 901
  • Australia 1,727 – 546
  • UK 4,552 – 1,493
  • Russia 35,608 – 7,247
  • Lithuania 952 – 186

So many men are killing themselves every year..

What are we doing about it?

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  • Zyavol

    I’ve reposted this video to my Facebook account, where my soon-to-be ex-stepmother is still connected until my Dad drops the divorce bomb on her. I hope it stabs her conscience but I doubt it will.

  • Robert St. Estephe

    Here’s a little added information on male suicide from an Italian publication (in English). QUOTE from article: “It is estimated that some 2,000 separated fathers commit suicide in Europe every year because they are not permitted to see their children.”

    “Separated fathers protest in Rome,” Italy Magazine, Apr. 8, 2008

    http://www.italymagazine.com/italy/politics/separated-fathers-protest-rome

    Here’s a brief but impressive video showing the Rome demonstration depicted in the photo you will see in the above article:

    VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rwQQYyGxx8

    • Good article, however, I believe the 2000 yearly suicide rate of separated men in Europe must be inaccurate. This is a comment I left beneath the Italian article about male suicide.

      “I am an advocate for the rights of children and families in Canada, having extensive knowledge about these matters. It is my view that the estimate of 2,000 separated fathers committing suicide in the entire Europe yearly, must be inaccurate, given the number of people living in Europe compared to Canada.

      In Canada, 3,000 men commit suicide each year with a population of 35,152,300 compared to Europe’s population of 739.2 million. I should also add that divorced men are 8 times more likely to commit suicide than a woman in the general population according to, Langlois, S. & Morrison, M. (2002). Suicide deaths and attempts. Matters have only gotten worse for men since 2002.

      I would estimate that this number is more like 60,000 not 2,000 separated men who commit suicide each year in Europe.”

  • John A

    When I was a youth I had 3 friends who killed themselves and they are all still dead 30 years later. I had a friend who was suicidal after his divorce and he is still alive today, so that is something.

    From the statistics, men suicide at around 4 times the rate of women, yet women supposedly attempt suicide at 3 times the rate of men. Since 3 x 4 = 12, we can conclude that men are 12 times as effective at killing themselves as women. Even if the 3 times figure is grossly exaggerated and include women who have attempted 12 times, or taken a tenth the number of pills required and so on. It could go a long way to explaining how is is that the average woman is less effective as a CEO, politician or domestic abuser etcetera.

    • alek

      It’s a clever argument whenever feminist bring up that argument.

      You: Men commit 4x suicide
      Feminist: Oh but women “attempt” it more
      You: Are you saying women are less capable than men?

      Attempts come in two forms. Either A) a genuine attempt failing due to incompetence, or B) a person who wasn’t even trying to suicide, just trying to get attention

      Now I have formal academic training in the subject, and the general consensus in the literature is that attempts of suicide are in most cases a cry for attention (not an actual failure of an actual suicide attempt – few people actually genuinely fail at suicide).

      The feminist bringing up the “but women try more often” have to accept only one of two possible scenarios, neither of which fits her rhetorical agenda.

      Either:

      A) She’s claiming that women are less capable than men (i.e. those were genuine attempts)
      B) She’s admitting that men lead in REAL suicides (i.e. where the death is intended)

  • Three words I most often hear in response to these facts:

    “Bitter”

    “Whiner”

    “Loser”

    Who suffers from sexism in this society again?

  • JinnBottle

    I’ll try to get hold of the article, but I recall an issue of “Everyman: A Men’s Journal” wherein the author was attending a lecture or meeting on the subject, and someone brought up the disparity in M/F suicides in Canada. The lecturer went on to quote the “more women attempt it” stat – and then said, “Men are just more successful at it.” Laughter.

    Also in “Everyman” (it was a print journal out of Toronto, David Shackleton Publ.), I recall a Canadian pol quoted as snapping out “Men have no rights; only responsibilities!”

    • OldGeezer

      That’s a misquote, but only slightly. The actual 2003 statement by Martin Cauchon, the Canadian Minister of Justice (sic) at that time, was as follows: “Parents have responsibilities, they don’t have rights.” However, it was made in the context of rejecting the presumption of shared parenting — or joint custody — in his proposed new divorce laws.

      One of several sources: http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0303/vc030328.htm

      • JinnBottle

        Thanx for that, OG. Yes, the *time* of the quote sounds right.

  • OneHundredPercentCotton
  • Bewildered

    So tragic ! RIP

  • There is a pattern emerging. Oh look, men are far more likely to commit suicide than women. Why is that? Could it be because of the conditions men are made to live in? Yes, yes it is a direct correlation to men and boys in crisis, male suffering and male abuse. The suicide rate is an excellent barometer of the condition men and boys are living in. If life was so good for males, why would they choose death?

    This is the only piece I am aware of that speaks to this very serious social condition, that not many are willing to talk about, other then MHRM folks. “divorced men commit suicide eight times more often than women in the general population. Yet, little is known about male suicidal behaviour in Canada.” http://www.heretohelp.bc.ca/visions/men-vol2/men-are-dying

    I will be pressing my colleagues at the Australian Institute of Male Health and Studies to make this a focus of male health issues. I will do the same in Toronto and ask Dr. Paul Links to head an investigation into this matter in Canada. http://aimhs.com.au/cms/

    • DukeLax

      Hetero-males need a small Army of legal advocates…like Other genders have. Facebook now offers nearly 50 different gender-classifications…and the only one that does not have a small Army of lawyers protecting it..Is the hetero-male. What happens to a society where hetero-males are routinely persecuted by law???

    • DukeLax

      Until all the perverse Alliances, and pork bloating Triangles can be dismantled…I would support a “hetero-legal group”. that makes sure hetero-males are not put into legal jeopardy because they choose to hetero-date…….. Vis a vis women!!

  • Darryl X

    This video and many other resources broadcast by A Voice For Men illustrates the kinds of systematic persecution of innocent, responsible, hard-working and responsible men by feminists and their governments which must be stopped if civilization and our economy is to be rehabilitated.

    1/32 Feminism is the primary mechanism by which children are denied their fathers, working men are enslaved, responsible men are impoverished, innocent men are imprisoned, infirm men are denied health care, potential scholars are denied educations, persecuted men are denied passports and free men are killed

    2/32 States, Family Courts and their officers, representatives of the Divorce Industry, case workers for Child Protective Services, agents of Child Support Enforcement, Guardians Ad Litem (GAL’s) special interest groups, feminists and many more encourage mothers, other women and feminists to make false allegations of domestic violence, rape and child abuse against innocent men

    3/32 During the past forty-five years, more than forty-million children have been forcibly separated from more than twenty-five-million fathers, many instances rationalized by false allegations of domestic violence, rape and child abuse against the innocent men

    4/32 During the past forty-six years, approximately one-third of adult women in the US have defrauded criminally an innocent man using just one mechanism: divorce and child support

    5/32 After fathers and children have been separated forcibly, states award custody to mothers, order fathers to pay child support exceeding cost of raising children by many multiples and that which fathers should pay by many multiples more and then exchange the child support and federal subsidies attached to laws like VAWA, Title IX and CAPTA with mothers, other women and feminists for votes and absolute power

    6/32 Feminists use absolute power and lie that they have greater need for health care even though science and facts show otherwise (ie more women die and die earlier than men of cardiovascular disease and more women are victims of domestic violence than men even though more men die and die earlier of cardiovascular disease and more men are victims of domestic violence)

    7/32 With those lies, women and feminists coerce legislators to appropriate more financial resources to their life-style choices, giving them more access to health care at the preclusion of access for men to much needed health care resources

    8/32 Legislators oblige women and feminists with budgets for health care which exceed that for men by many multiples, co-opting financial resources or hard-working and responsible men to pay for it and precluding those men from access to needed health care

    9/32 As a result of this dynamic, women live more than six years longer than men and have higher standards of living

    10/32 The US incarcerates more men per capita than any other country in the history of the world except for Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, women represent less than five-percent of inmates and women receive much shorter sentences for the same crimes

    11/32 Women are responsible for most domestic violence and child abuse and many other crimes but receive shorter sentences for the same crimes if they are sentenced at all

    12/32 Many innocent men are in prison because they were accused falsely by women of crimes like rape and domestic violence and initiatives like the Innocence Project have exonerated more than three-hundred men after an average of thirteen years in prison

    13/32 More than fifty-thousand men are in prison because they can’t afford to comply with orders for excessive child support and ten-percent have never fathered a child

    14/32 During the past ten years, mothers of ten-percent of children do not know who the fathers are but identify him correctly on a birth certificate, mothers of ten-percent of children do not know who the fathers are and don’t identify him correctly on the birth certificate (paternity fraud) and mothers for fifteen-percent of children don’t even identify a father on the birth certificate

    15/32 In direct response to false allegations of domestic violence, child abuse and rape, imposition and oppression by Family Courts and agencies of Child Support Enforcement, impoverishment and enslavement, denial of passports with which to escape their persecutors and denial of public assistance, more than 250,000 fathers have committed suicide in the US during the past forty-five years

    16/32 An additional 850,000 men have committed suicide and many of these instances likely concern persecution too or false allegations but reasons are undocumented

    17/32 Almost none of these men suffer any chronic mental illness but were denied any benefits of living in society and suicide was their best if not only choice

    18/32 Incidence of suicide among women is approximately one-quarter that among men and almost no instances are or ever have been in response to divorce, child support, family law or persecution by the government

    19/32 In fact, imposition of family law, child support and the government upon women in any way throughout history of the US has never even come close to present imposition upon men, including imprisonment, suspension of passports and driver licenses, and denial of public assistance

    20/32 Because of child support, VAWA, Title IX and other similar developments denying them rights to due process, men have no incentive to pursue and are precluded from educations and the ratio of men to women at university presently approximates 2:3

    21/32 Approximately ten-percent of children in public schools are prescribed drugs like methylphenidate for treatment of ADHD even though they suffer no mental illness but are just bullied by their mothers and the government

    22/32 More than two-thirds of these children are boys and the governments and the pharmaceutical industry pay teachers (almost all women) and mothers for referring these children to therapists who prescribe the drugs

    23/32 Also because they don’t live as long and owe child support they can’t possibly pay, men do not benefit from programs concerning public assistance to which they contributed disproportionately more than women and feminists

    24/32 Approximately 95% of homeless are men and more than 50% of those in poverty are men

    25/32 Adjusted for hazard, hours worked, tenure, education, productivity, child support, taxes and many other variables, men are paid considerably less than women

    26/32 Women are paid more and consume approximately eighty-five-percent (85%) of resources as concluded by many marketing and government studies (ie Bureau of Labor Statistics) and men are sent to die in endless wars to satisfy that excessive consumption

    27/32 The government wants women fighting in combat because it knows they can be more easily manipulated than men to kill their own citizens and even men in their own ranks (just look at how good the government has been at destroying families and fathers and children by paying mothers, other women and feminists to do it)

    28/32 Men don’t live as long, are imprisoned at alarming incidence, are denied educations to improve themselves, die prematurely and are denied their right to due process so women and feminists comprise a growing majority of the population and electorate and vote themselves more entitlements with no responsibility and at the further expense of men and children

    29/32 The feminist police state metastasizes, our political, legal, social and financial infrastructure falls apart, and the economy collapses but to create the illusion of recovery, the feminist police state promotes and executes the involuntary sacrifice of men and the transfer of their wealth to women and feminists

    30/32 As further evidence of its malignant narcissism, the feminist police state denies a growing number of men passports with which to escape their persecutors so that it can enslave them

    31/32 Women have always been the most privileged demographic in the US but now they are predatory, opportunistic and parasitic, enslaving men to their solipsism, chronic victimhood, lies and malignant narcissism

    32/32 [Passage in violation of comment policy removed — strix]

    • Jack Strawb

      “15/32 In direct response to false allegations of domestic violence,
      child abuse and rape, imposition and oppression by Family Courts and
      agencies of Child Support Enforcement, impoverishment and enslavement,
      denial of passports with which to escape their persecutors and denial of
      public assistance, more than 250,000 fathers have committed suicide in
      the US during the past forty-five years      “

      If you read this, I’d appreciate a link to the info supporting this. This subject is a particular interest of mine that I’m writing an article about. Thanks in advance!

  • e

    Get it through all your thick men’s skulls.
    Women in our society today do not give a damn how many many commit suicide.
    They don’t care abouit statistics about men.
    They don’t care how many more boys commit suicide.
    They don’t care how many are fathers.
    They don’t care!
    They don’t care!
    They don’t care!
    Do you all understand that.
    Look around you.
    Look at the society we live in today.
    It is all about the needs of girls and women.
    Women teach themselves that men are not needed in society.
    When was the last time anyone of you saw a woman lift a finger to help a helpless man,
    When?
    The government panders to the female vote.
    And this contributes to women not caring about men.
    Medical research caters to women.
    And this makes women think that men do not need help.
    Universities teach women how evil and useless men are to the world.
    And this helps women not care about men!
    Women in our society are taught from the first breath of life that men are invisible.
    Their needs are not important.
    Perhaps all these men committing suicide are creating a great service to the women left behind.
    Since men are so useless to women must groan with pleasure knowing that there are so many less men to make their lives miserable.

    Women don’t care gentlemen, at all!
    And the rest of he men are too busy trying to make women happy.
    And they make women happy by ignoring men’s needs.

    Got it!

    • Do you have evidence that men give a damn about these things more than women? If so, please present it.

      • e

        Men’s opinions are not advertised ins society.
        Men are taught to please women.
        In today’s society a man pleases a woman by catering to her needs.
        And her needs do not involve caring for men.
        So men are actually invalidating themselves by caring for a group a people who do not care for them.

        Go to any large magazine and book rack.
        Take a look.
        All womens books deal with their vanity and themselves.
        They could care less about men or the world.

        Men are taught by society that it’s only women’s needs that matter.
        Only their desires that matter.
        Only women count as people.
        Men are taught to be disposable.
        And every woman believes that.
        That’s why Christ was a man.
        Can you imagine a female Christ sacrificing herself for mankind.
        Can you imagine a female Christ sacr

  • Aldir Gracindo

    This post and video were translated into Brazilian Portuguese here: http://br.avoiceformen.com/recomendados/a-vida-do-homem-suicida/

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