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  • “If you had deeper meaningful connections and felt genuine love for more men in your life, how would this be for you? If you had male friends who you could openly talk to about anything in your life, and be heard unconditionally, without being judged, what would this mean in your own life?”

    For starters, it would mean that I wouldn’t have to be surrounded by gynocracy and its offspring: feminism, for no pressure to conform that IS the fuel of both’s success.

  • This is a powerful article, the likes I, for one, would like to see more on this favorite site. Thank you Mr. White. Please come back.

    Herein, and within this concept is a key to changing men.

    Men shouldn’t be afraid of each other. It doesn’t have to be that way. No good comes from this needless fear.

    Straying, but not entirely, how many have thought about why the military historically has used the vulnerability issue to its advantage? With this, I am talking about open showers etc? Consistent with this article, not intending sexual connotations at all, because this isn’t sexual at all, after all, but it should be obvious why military might is enhanced by forcing men together, to strip them with vulnerability, to see the bond of the man machine grow even more powerful.

    This power in men, especially when coalesced, is one of the greatest fears of feminists.

    Just think about this for a while.

    • Craig White

      I’ll definitely be back. Thanks for your comments 🙂

  • Bora Bosna

    This, a million times.

    I’ve been witnessing the destruction of male love here in Turkey from the religious and non-religious side where men no longer kiss each other on the cheek, but headbutt their temples instead, in fear of being seen as gay.

    I’ve always said this: homophobia is actually androphobia. It affects all men, gay or non-gay.

  • Karl Dawg

    QUOTE:

    How would this affect your interactions with men in general?

    How would this affect your relationship to women?

    How would this affect your relationship to yourself and self-acceptance?

    How would this affect your relationship with your family members?

    How would this affect your confidence levels?

    How would this affect your relationship to the world in general?

    How would this affect male suicides?

    How would this affect domestic violence in the world?

    How would this affect corruption in the world?

    How would this affect how we treat the natural world?

    I’ve heard it said that there are 2 primary emotions: FEAR and LOVE, then
    stemming from those two emotions are varying degrees of those two. Also, it is
    obvious to me that the human race is currently suffering / experiencing the
    effects from thousands of years of greed, hate, and appalling cruelty towards
    animals, nature and other human beings. Hence, lose all fear to the questions
    you asked above and in my opinion the following would happen:

    1.) The destruction of Feminism.

    2.) The destruction of Totalitarianism.

    I’m not saying I am there yet, but I try, MEN must gain a unshakable mental
    attitude so that in a storm their spirit sings, because when men make changes
    and take control in a loving way people follow and the world changes !

  • Esteban

    Three words: BAND OF BROTHERS.

    Next question.

  • TheKid

    When men show deep care for other men they are called gay in the media. Men don’t like that. And that’s ok. People act as if it’s a crime for a man to be offended when he’s called a homosexual. Thats like saying a Korean person should not be offended when someone callously calls them Chinese. They have a right to be offended and to correct them. The same thing applies to being called a homosexual when you are in fact heterosexual. A prime example of this extreme lack of understanding in how men look out for one another is the media calling Captian America and Bucky Barnes gay. All the liberal/feminist commentary calling them secret lovers and art work depicting them kissing each other makes me cringe, and boarders on offensive to men. As usual its contradicts their claims of anti-traditionalism. Because the message is, men don’t exude emotion like that (actually we do, just not to everyone), and when they do, let’s all (in the liberal media) call them gay for it. That is offensive to us. And we don’t deserve to be called homophobic for it.

    Men in general understand what’s going on in the friendship between Bucky and Cap; men understand what emotions are *actully* on display there, and it most certainly is not homosexuality.

    • Bora Bosna

      “Gay” is the dividing tactic used to divide men. It enjoys the “you’re homophobic” defense. First straight men are separated from gay men, then straight men are further divided. Both straight and gay men stand to suffer from this as a result. We know very well that feminists have no problem kicking gay men to the side when it suits them and call them privileged or not oppressed enough. John Lauritsen wrote about this in 1976. There are some homosexual men out there who understand how they are separated from straight men by this tactic, like Jack Donovan, author of “The Way of Men”, who rejects the “gay” identity.

    • Why are men so afraid of each other? It certainly doesn’t prove what they think it does. But it does suggest some other things that I will leave for speculation. When we get over this hurdle we will be free…to win.

      Just look at how few comments this badly needed article has generated. Very telling, huh?

      • Bora Bosna

        Domesticity, men’s fear of women’s rejection and destruction of male spaces greatly contributes to men being afraid of each other. If men still were out there bonding they would not be so. There is also the issue of lack of rites due to geographic separation of families, fathers’ absence due to work and broken down traditions. Men did not wake up one day and decide to fear each other. They don’t know how to relate. They forgot. How few comments under this article is precisely because of that. Most of us don’t really have an idea or a solution.

        • Craig White

          Yes no one has taught. But inside we know deeply how to love. It really helps to share with other men on deep levels. The work I’m doing with men in circle is gold and I encourage every man to start sharing and ideally find a men’s group or form his own

          • Bora Bosna

            “But inside we know deeply how to love”
            I sure hope so. The genes cannot be outdone, it seems.

          • Craig White

            Yes we do….It really helps to form a group of men and share with each other on deep levels. Be vulnerable. Share the light and the dark… In my experience when men realize they are not the only person in the world who struggles, and many other men share the same demons, then it becomes easier for them to love themselves, then it becomes easier to love the world and the people in it, or at least accept the world as it is.

      • Craig White

        Thanks bro. We can only change ourselves and when we change others will follow. So keep going and stay committed to your truth as a man

  • Factsseeker

    A life long experience of teaching and counselling men and families has brought me to the conclusion that men fear/hate each other primarily for two reasons: (i) Men fear each other because of the threat of physical and emotional violence. Weaker men are not protected sufficiently from bullies and other aggressive men by society and the justice system. Male on male assault gets trivial sentences in countries like Australia and the UK. The justice system in effect reinforces male on male violence as normal and of little import. Consequently men have face the threat of being beaten or bullied by more aggressive men, with little consequence for the victim. Another form of violence is emotional. Most emotional violence carries a threat of physical violence, because their are so few consequences for the perpetrator of male on male violence. Men in groups then tend to mob together to bully other weaker men, because they are scared of being turned on themselves by the bullies. The law does not act as a deterrent to protect men. The weak assault laws also make a statement that ordinary men’s lives are not valued. In addition, these laws are made mostly by men. So men feel betrayed and devalued by other men. (ii) Secondly, men hate each other because too many other men are only interested in making friends so they can have sex with the man’s wife or girl friend. This is a deep rooted fear in modern society and drives men’s mistrust and hatred for one another. If these fears and problems are tackled, men could definitely develop deep trusting bonds of friendship that will enrich men’s lives.

    • Craig White

      Sounds like you are in a good place to help men tackle these issues. Congrats for the work you have been doing so far

    • crydiego

      I think you need to go into another line of work, you seem to view men as nothing more than dogs needing a strong master.

      • Factsseeker

        On the contrary crydiego, I have always fought for ordinary decent men to be treated with dignity and equal value to women. I have also fought for men to be free from fear and control by partners and other controlling men and women in society. Men are as much human beings, in the full sense of the word, as women are. Men should be valued equally and be treated equally. Vulnerable men deserve the help and empathy from society just like vulnerable women do. Men have the right to full self-determination. They certainly should not be treated like dogs needing a master. Men should be helped to be masters of their own lives and destiny. That is what drives my belief in men’s human rights.

        • crydiego

          Do you believe in patriarchy?

          • Factsseeker

            I don’t believe in patriarchy or feminism. Both are prone to being taken over by extremists and both are more about control of others than about mutual justice.

          • crydiego

            Yes, both are about control for sure.

  • 2cyar

    I can’t love no-one anymore….but I can still collaborate…and there are some people that I admire very much.

    • Bryan Scandrett

      Sorry to hear Bro.

      • 2cyar

        Thanks Bryan, but I don’t see it as a problem.

        I guess it all depends on your definition of love I suppose. I still have a lot of empathy for all sorts but I don’t think it is wise to put too much emotional investment into any relationship in today’s cultural environment. Erin Pizzey has described how too much emotional investment / dependency can bring out a terrible dark side when things (likely) go wrong.

        I should clarify that I do love my kids but they are all grown up now so there is no risk of parental alienation. But if I knew then what I know now about father’s rights and the associated risks I would have had a vasectomy early. I am one of the lucky ones as far as that is concerned.

    • Craig White

      Collaboration is love for oneself

  • Bryan Scandrett

    I have the deepest gratitude to the MHRAs for rekindling and teaching me, schooling me, on compassion and affection towards men and boys. Without doubt a deep source of emotional gratification as a hetro man.

  • 2cyar

    I have never had any problem relating compassionately and having meaningful heartfelt conversations with other men…even the assholes, to a point, because I can understand what motivates them. I wouldn’t call it love though.

  • V S

    I agree with 2cyar. Maybe it’s a matter of interpreting words. It seems that men have to lead the way to changing how men are considered if we are to close the empathy gap. Compassion, sharing quality of time, deep conversation and acceptance without having to fit a mould.

    Men are too often conditioned to accept harshness and coldness. Many men want to be able to relate to things with straightforward practicality and don’t want to be pressed into histrionic displays of emotion in order to have a voice. Only other men are likely to give the understanding needed.

    More so as we need better defences against being manipulated. Far too many men are defenceless against being manipulated. Our societies have turned manipulation especially by fear of accusation and exclusion, but also by confusion and deliberate obfuscation, into standard weapons to be used against men. Men find themselves isolated far too easily when their traditional areas of confidence like pride in work and place are undermined. When men don’t conform to a functional and obedient appearance they face suspicion, hostility and outright prejudice.

    And it is confusing, some women delight in elevating some men and denigrating others on their whims to display their power of control. They can behave like that and be given praise and approval, they don’t face any form of social censure. Unlike men, who will be castigated for looking in the direction of a woman for longer than a glance. Men end up angry without even knowing why or how it was done to them, and then their anger is paraded in front of all as evidence of their bad character. It’s easy to see how situations can rapidly seem hopeless when so many as so keen to virtue signal at the expense of innocent man’s reputation.

    It’s going to take a strong commitment, that comes from the heart to turn this around and do something about the suicide rate and empathy gap.

  • Esteban

    Interesting photo essay on physical affection between men.
    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/07/29/bosom-buddies-a-photo-history-of-male-affection/

    • Bora Bosna

      Wow. Amazing list of pictures.

  • crydiego

    Men are bombarded with shaming from our gynocentric based society that is like a constant rain that soaks everything. I now try to remember that, outside of my immediate family, I can count on men the most if I’m in need. It is men that rush to help, it is men that put their own life in danger for others, and it is men who stand their ground and allow other to flee to safety. We need to begin appreciating each other.
    And remember, the people who oppose us are marching around in pussy hats, in their underwear with slut written on themselves, — what kind of society does that represent?

    • iphlogiston

      It’s not just the people marching around in pussy hats. They’re brainwashing their children against us. Then the media takes pictures and video of these kids and lauds them for their youthful progressive and innocent hearts. That’s the future we’re facing… no, the present we’re currently experiencing. No less than a society that promotes bigotry while waving the flag of equality.

      • crydiego

        I up-voted you but I’m really not much of an “us” person.

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