Running of the bulls**t

February 28, 2017 By AVfM Video Source 34 Comments

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its really just become the govt punishing and slaving men for women.

DV, family court, even child benefits……its just transfer of mens hardwork to women, no reciprocation required.

and it leaves men still in relationships, living in fear and obedience to ever more entitiled dominareering women.

even a confirmed bachelor will pay for child benefits and women’s social programs.

but then its men willing to give all, for a gold star and to get there dick wet, that causes it. its not like there is a gun to a guys head, or we couldn’t shut the whole thing down tomorrow.

kinda like the dodo bird……to dumb and docile to continue
- Theseus
  
  Ha! A day without women lol lol lol! We’ll get along just fine!
  
  A day without men…well now that’s a different story.
Shrek6

There are a couple of differences with Spain, compared to other countries. Each country seems to have its extreme punitive measures for men that women like to use. In the US men are locked up in debtors prison. In other countries it is something else. At the end of the day, all countries are as abusive toward their male population as each other.

But behind the whole lot, is women. Yes, women in the general community who are driving all this. Not feminism or any other group. All that feminism, govts and ngos have done, is provide a means to an end for women. Nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING happens until vindictive women start the process and request that it keeps going. Once these rotten women and they are in the majority, do start this process, then it is like a snowball and just keeps going until it has annihilated all that the man is and has.

I can see a bad future where we spend all our time attacking the legal and political biases against men, correcting them, but then finding women looking for another route to abusing men and children, simply because we never addressed this behavioural trait in women.

How did feminists get to where they are today?
They pointed out, dishonestly, the bad behaviour of men. Yes, some men, but most were never like this. However, it resonated with the immature neuroplasticity of the majority of women, who are easily talked into anything once you appeal to their victimhood and treat them as being special. Most women for some unknown reason, succumb to this childish bullshit and yet they still argue that they are mature and intelligent. But then, when it comes to chivalry and courtly love, are men any different?

So if we are running a campaign of shining a torchlight on the bad behaviour of Manginas and white knights, so that we can effect changes for the future that will not reverse, then it stands to reason and logic that we must also start publicly pointing the finger at all these women out there who are the driving force behind all this evil we suffer.

While we are running a FTSU campaign against feminism, gynocentrism, white knight and mangina’ism, we might as well go whole hog and take on everyone. It’s the only way to ensure a future that will see inherent attitudes change enough to effect serous long term changes.

Paul has some wonderful videos on BPDs and sociopaths. This is the way to go to educate. What we need to do is identify these women or groups of women and go after them, like we do to the men who are like this. And we need to do it to both a whole lot more.

Forget feminism and its power in govt. We can destroy feminism and all its influences in law, govt and education, if we change people at grassroots level. Change the attitudes of women and men and everything above that point will be renewed. BY FORCE!
- Catreece
  
  This isn’t restricted to women is the thing – it’s basic human psychology. If you reward one behaviour and penalize another, then people tend to follow the behaviour that’s rewarded and avoids the behaviour that’s penalized.
  
  The issue here is as you said though – feminism and governments and so on have encouraged this abusive behaviour. They’ve not just allowed for it, but actively gone out of their way to reward women for acting like horrible, abusive people. if anything, we should be impressed it’s not a higher percentage of women abusing this level of power.
  
  If you train a man from birth that it’s alright to hurt women, that women control everything and that anything you do to a woman is just attacking your oppressor, and then give massive rewards like money for abusing women, then you’re going to see a lot of men doing the exact same thing.
  
  The problem is that this’s a deeply institutionalized issue that covers every aspect of society, to the point that, well, let’s be fair here… it’s probably not possible to root it out any longer. It’ll probably require removing the system entirely, which is unfortunate. We’re basically looking at what will lead to the collapse of the western world because of such. Whether it triggers wars or just quietly dies with a declining population, that’s hard to predict at the moment, but it’s going to go out one way or another. We can only hope that what replaces it learns from the errors of the past.
  - Theseus
    
    Of course. That is the entire crux of the matter.
    
    The system and society rewarding one demographics shitty behavior at the expense of another.
    - Catreece
      
      Mmhmm. There’s a TON of issues that all lead into that though from many different directions. Things like male disposability means we have to have SOMEONE who’s expendable to do the high-risk dirty work… and it’s not going to be women because, well, one man can impregnate 100 women, while the women take way longer to bare fruit, as it were. As such, guys are the natural choice to be expendable. Which also means guys have to be dehumanized to a degree for them to be expendable, because we can’t ask real people to throw away their lives like that, so… well, that kind of limits our options.
      
      Once you dehumanize men though, then you can do all sorts of nasty things to them. Like I was mentioning to Shrek6 above there, women get coached in divorce proceedings to say the man raped his kids or was abusive… the thing is though, you couldn’t do that to a person. Fortunately, men are dehumanized so it’s easier for average, normal women who aren’t raging bitches to just go along with it.
      
      You see the exact same thing in other forms of extreme tribalism as well. We saw it in nazi germany, for example, where men and women both just went along with a lot of atrocities. It’s not like “all german people are evil”, because that’s absurd. Most of them are just normal, average, fairly good people… towards other people. Towards those who have been dehumanized though and then demonized, well… then we got to see that men and women can be both trained to be absolute monsters and still think of themselves as fairly good people even though they know what they’re doing is wrong.
      
      Anyway, we’ve not only given women the opportunity, but we’ve actively encouraged them to be terrible, and punished them when they aren’t, while lots of other factors, such as dehumanizing men so it’s possible to harm them at all, also play a factor.
      
      There’s a ton of things which all point in the same direction, and it’s hurting everyone when this is allowed to happen.
      
      Since it’s so pervasive on so many different levels… I’m not sure we can fix it all. Then again, maybe we don’t have to fix it all. If we can kick out even one keystone, that could be the end of it. If we could get enough robots to replace the need for men to be disposable, we may be able to do away with the dehumanization of men, and if that happens, most women wouldn’t be able to harm them, even if encouraged or punished, because they couldn’t do that to a person. They just don’t see men as real people right now is all. That may be able to be fixed though, and if it is, I kind of hope it would fix a lot of the other problems along the way. It may require several other factors to also get fixed before we see any real change though. I’m not sure how many would need to be corrected, but I don’t think we’d need to fix “everything” just a few big things that affect everything else.
      
      Perhaps it’s wishful thinking. I dunno really, but we’ll see. We may actually be on to the path to fix a few of the bigger problems already just due to technology being what it is. Or it may all crash and burn before we get that far, I dunno. We’ll have to wait and see I suppose.
      - Kronk
        
        My friend,
        although I agree with much of what you said and are we still looking at where the fault lies?
        The question is asked, Who is at fault?
        Is it the woman for initiating the crime-
        or the man for allowing it to continue?
        
        Well,
        regardless of how we actually got into this mess NOTHING gets started unless and until the FEMALE pulls the trigger (as it were) so I ask you, who is ultimately at fault?
  - Shrek6
    
    Nah, sorry, I disagree with your first statement. But that is okay, because we can have opposing views.
    
    For a long time, probably more than a century, children remained with their father upon separation and divorce. Throughout all that history there was/is no history of fathers behaving anything like mothers have done for the past 40+ years.
    
    Women have been utterly brutal in their behaviour toward their ex husbands, using all manner of weapons, both legal and personal. This is a ‘female specific’ behaviour and all the proof is in history and neither you nor anyone else can deny it. Parental Alienation is one such example!
    
    We don’t need to use the bullshit feminist styled pseudo-science of psychology to work out if men would do the same if given the same opportunity, because we have already been there and done that and guess what?
    Men never did it!
    
    Sure, there would have been a few scumbags, but they would have been an insignificantly small number hardly noticed. If there were any sizeable numbers of men behaving like this in any country, femtards from the late 1700s till this very day would have been screeching it from the roof tops, just like they still do about the bullshit lies of not being able to vote, etc.
    
    We need to educate both sexes yes, but we need to start severely punishing women for the things they do. All punishments for men are already very severe, but for the same crime or for worse crimes that are committed by women, the women are either given a soft penalty or not punished at all.
    
    This has to change!
    
    Let’s stop blaming the system, the govt, the police and femtards for all that is wrong with the world, when the primary perpetrator is women. Even in the MHRM there are still people who refuse to do this.
    
    They will argue till they are blue in the face that all the fault lies with the govt and law enforcement and courts. They refuse to point the finger of blame directly at the one person who starts it all off and who has the power to stop it.
    
    And this person is the woman. And in the same position that men occupied for over a century, they never (collectively that is) behaved like women do today!
    - Catreece
      
      I disagree with your premise on a fairly fundamental level. As soon as you let someone be a terrible person, there will be people who do so simply because they can, but those people are in the minority in both sexes. When you actively encourage and force people, then you see things change where even average individuals begin performing barbaric and cruel acts.
      
      For your example of the divorce issue, the average woman has no interest in “harming” the man initially. We know for a fact that women are actively coached to say the man raped the kids or was violent, though. We know for a fact that, even if a woman actively tries to not accept alimony, the state practically forces it upon her at gunpoint, as was the case with Karen Straughan for example, or several other women I’ve personally known who divorced and were heavily leaned on by the state to get the man to pay for her instead of the state to do it.
      
      When we look at things like spain or india or wherever you go that has laws that heavily reward women for being abusive or filing false rape charges, those events increase dramatically in number. If you look at any country which doesn’t throw money and benefits at women who file rape charges, the false rape reporting drops dramatically, by factors of as much as ten. This pretty much says flat out that it really is a matter of nurture rather than nature for the most part.
      
      There will, of course, be those who are, by nature, abusive individuals, but as Erin Pizzey herself points out time and again, abusive tendencies are taught rather than innate. This also includes the abuses of the state. We can see this very clearly in individuals who adopt out their kids who live in ghettos… their kids don’t grow up to be reliant upon the welfare state if they grow up in a good household usually. If they grow up in the ghetto though, they learn to milk wellfare for all its worth and are actively taught to be afraid of the police, to have 5 kids from 6 fathers and live off alimony and child support. These are learned behaviours, not innate, and there’s more than enough evidence behind such, not to mention the logical reasoning all suggests such.
      
      So no, I don’t agree that it’s “women” specifically being innately horrible people, so much as it is that they’re being A: allowed to be, B: encouraged, and C: penalized when they aren’t.
      
      Now, that being said… can we fix those issues? …Well, I’m not too hopeful about that. It’s in human nature to be lax on women in general. Even if it’s a situational issue, does it really matter if that situation is near-universal? It probably isn’t the case that women are the problem merely by being female, but it also may not matter if you can’t fix the underlying problem which is allowing the situation to occur in the first place. So to the end result, you may be correct in the outcome, but not in how you got there. I think we need to test more to see if we can actually change how we treat women in the first place, though.
      - Shrek6
        
        Well no, you are completely wrong in your first paragraph, because there is bucket loads of proof around saying the opposite.
        
        You said, “………there will be people who do so simply because they can, but those people are in the minority in both sexes.”
        
        You are deliberately minimising the utterly rotten behaviour of well over 50% and probably anywhere up to and/or over 80% of women in the general community post separation. They are not a small group and they are indeed in the majority displaying typical female behaviour.
        
        This is not some bullshit psychological crap that both men and women suffer from if given the right kinds of causal factors or influences are involved. It is typical of women.
        
        Women have been the primary abuser within relationships for thousands of years. The only reason why it is so in your face today, IS because feminism has given them the key to the sweet shop. In other words, feminism took off the shackles from women only, that both men and women had on them, gave women power and authority over men in all areas of society, plus endowed them with mind boggling privilege that even royalty in most countries throughout history could never afford to have, lest their people rise up and kill them.
        
        And because of the above, women have just gone plain stupid, knowing they will never be punished. This has nothing to do with conditioning, although I do agree that conditioning will make it worse. This is part of female make up and it takes a strong woman to not behave like this and to not do the things most others do.
        
        No, the majority of women behave this way, because it is inherently part of their sex and yes, simply because they can!
      - Catreece
        
        This doesn’t track at all, even remotely, with what we know of historical fact.
        
        And I don’t mean the feminist revisionism of history, but just take your pick of anywhere in history for most any culture and it’s pretty consistent – life sucked for pretty much everyone with a few exceptions, and people did what they had to survive. From there, people had a lot of frustrations in general and took out those frustrations on each other.
        
        There’s a reason that the stereotype is a woman yelling and screaming at a man, and a man slapping some sense into her. There were actual laws which specifically were tailored around exactly how to manage your husband and your wife. If we get into the 1500s and up in europe, women were given moral authority to be the moral arbiters of society, and with that came a strict set of rules for them to follow as well. Most women weren’t ladies, no matter what feminists like to think, but those who were deemed to be ladies were held to a much higher standard. And what did we see within that standard once held? They acted… well, moral by the standards that were set. Exceptionally so, since they lost all their power if they didn’t uphold it.
        
        Similar examples can be pointed to with the romans, the greeks, the egyptians and so on throughout the ages. When women are held to a high standard, they live up to that standard. When that standard becomes lax, typically due to great wealth and comfort becoming commonplace, such as near the end of the roman empire, you see things fall apart very quickly.
        
        The same is seen when you provide such for a small group of men historically, though the scale tends to be smaller since usually you give that kind of lax standards to all middle class or higher women, whereas you only tend to hold such lax standards for nobility when it comes to men. Even so, within these groups you see the same behaviours play out consistently. When you give a group of humans the option to abuse their power, to be cruel in general, or outright malicious, and hand them a group with which to do so towards, they tend to do exactly that in bulk. Individuals may not, but they tend to move towards the minority, and it doesn’t matter if you’re a spoiled prince who treats his subjects like crap, anyone in a culture with slaves, a nazi with pretty much almost any ethnic group, a communist with anyone who isn’t one, or mccarthyists in relation to those same communists, we see the same consistent behaviour across all of humanity: most normal people will turn abusive when they’re rewarded to do so, punished when they don’t, and have someone who has been dehumanized to the point of being able to rationalize why it’s okay to harm them.
        
        As such, again, I disagree because, while it’s true that the majority of women behave this way, it’s because it’s inherently part of being HUMAN, not limited to their sex. Normal, average, everyday people, regardless of gender, will become monsters the moment they have someone they consider to be subhuman, where it’s not just okay to harm that subhuman group, but rewarded and encouraged. This has happened all throughout history to both men and women, without there really even being any real difference in what goes on. The only reason you’re seeing it as a female-only issue is you’re only looking at the relationships of men and women specifically, and male expendability is an absolute requirement for human survival, so men have been dehumanized enough on a consistent enough basis to see some examples of such. In turn, in cultures where women are objectified more than the baseline average, you see exactly the opposite in kind.
        
        Most people will be abusive to others, just in general, so long as they’re conditioned to feel good about it. Waaaait… people do things that feel good and they’re told are good? NUUUUUUUUUU. Really? Wow, such revelation, much amaze, so epiphany.
        
        If you need, I can start citing plenty of examples more than I have already. If you want dozens, hundreds, probably thousands of examples of mass groups of men being abusive towards an out group, then it’s not like history lacks for evidence of such in the slightest.
      - Shrek6
        
        I don’t know why you wrote most of that, because a lot of it is irrelevant to this discussion.
        
        You and I are going to have to ‘agree to disagree,’ because I think you are way off the mark. But that is okay.
        
        I am firm in my beliefs of certain types of behaviours and crimes that are sex based. Some are committed mostly by men and hardly by women, and then there are the others, mostly relationship based that are committed mostly by women and hardly by men.
        
        You have basically backed up my claim in this post of yours. You said that while women are held to a higher standard they behave, or something like that. And when they are not, then it all goes down the dunny.
        
        Well, that just proves my point. If you don’t force women to behave, they turn into bitches and just play up like spoilt brats, which is exactly what has been happening for half a century now.
        
        It has nothing to do with human. Only female specific behaviour when it comes to abuses within relationships and with children.
        
        Like I said, men are responsible for their part in crimes today which are outside of relationships and not with children, and women have theirs and it is all to do with their sex.
        
        Anyway, I think we have exhausted this, because we are at an impasse!
      - Kronk
        
        But with relationships as the ‘King-pin’ of society, and with our mutual agreement that the female is responsible for most the crimes committed therein, I think we can also both agree that this is the larger, more serious crime committed? Especially when we know that children raised in these environment grow up to become deficient in almost any category one can name, and many times go on to become ‘Tax Consumers’ rather than ‘Tax Payers’ in more ways than I care to mention here.
        
        And everybody already knows this!!!
        
        It sad really, that as a modern society we have to actually ‘debate’ this insanity…
      - Shrek6
        
        Yep, got to agree with you Mate!
        
        I’ve always believed in sex specific crimes. It is the province of men, when referring to the violent crimes out in the street. Bank robberies, carjackings, police chases, most gun offenses, violence assaults and in many cases murders, but murders outside of relationships. Look at all these demonstrations since Trump got in. You see women there, but how many of the women are kicking in shop windows or coward punching innocent bystanders?
        They are almost all men!
        
        The opposite is true however in relationships of all kinds with humans. That it is the province of women for almost all and any crimes and abuses committed within relationships, to men and to children. Also to other women.
        
        Society has put the blame of all crimes, abuses and violence at the feet of men, when this is patently unfair and wrong.
        
        And both of those scenarios with regard sex specific crimes, I believe are inherent in their nature. It is a genetic thing. They are prone to behave this way, because of the nature of the perpetrator’s sex.
        
        Of course we are talking in general terms and there will always be aberrations to this rule, but in the main, I don’t think I am far from being completely right.
        
        When it comes to this subject we normally discuss in these pages, it is women who are the primary villain and they are this way, because it is a behaviour that is inherently female and found much more in women than it is in men.
        
        There are crimes that men commit that the majority of women would never dream of committing.
        
        Similarly, there are crimes that women commit that the majority of men would never dream of committing, such as abusing children by using alienating tactics to get the child to hate the other parent.
      - Kronk
        
        The Dynamical Laws: -Simon Shepard
        
        “The only power that females have is given to them by males;
        
        The only thing which females do with that power is use it against males”.
      - Kronk
        
        “No, the majority of women behave this way, because it is inherently part of their sex and yes, simply because they can!”
        
        Dude! You plagiarized me because I have said the EXACT same thing so many times! HA!
        
        Keep going! 🙂
      - JinnBottle
        
        Agree with you, to a limited extent. One universal message is Power Corrupts. First it stagnates growth (into adulthood, which is difficult enough for homosapiens sapiens sapiens); then it conditions the individual or group to regress. Finally, you have a condition where the subject-in-the-adult-body has regressed past infancy, and into bestialness. A human-animal. A monster.
        
        See the enormously undernoticed film sometime, “I Was a Teenage Werewolf”. Beneath the 1950’s windowdressing of drive-in style creature feature with a rock n roll number thrown in, is a real work of art on human development and regression. The writer was brilliant.
- Kronk
  
  I’m in brother! When did asking them nicely to stop their crimes ever do any good?
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Theseus

Oy! Again with the no repercussions for false accusations.

Some patriarchy eh? A system in where men pass laws completely against their own interests in order to satisfy some pussy begging and ancient caveman urge.

Why in the fuck would feminists want to “smash” that?!!
- 2cyar
  
  “Oy! Again with the no repercussions for false accusations.”
  
  Worse than that….women get paid for making them.
- Kronk
  
  Good point. DAMN good point but remember; “You can’t fix stupid”
j24601

The following video is featured in the third item looked at byTFM. It is a frightening portrayal of the injustices men endure in Spain as a result of it’s dystopian gender violence laws. Women in Spain bring 400 cases of abuse against men to court EVERY day, that’s about 150,000 women per year who are actively encouraged to do so by the Ministry of Women.

My heartfelt sympathy goes to my Spanish brothers, who are suffering as a result of the callous opportunism of so many of their women, and to their children, who will also pay a heavy price in unfavourable life’s outcomes. But to their women, my message is this: Cease and desist your disgusting abuse of your menfolk and your children. Stop your State sanctioned tyranny against them. If you don’t, your Spain is finished as a viable society and chaos will ensue for you. It’s your choice.

Anyway, here’s the link to the video
- Chris
  
  That’s 150,000 newly registered male sex offenders per year, and backhand calculation shows 200,000 males being born per year in Spain. At some point in the future, the percentage of Spanish men registered as sex offenders will be in the majority. Maybe they could cut the red tape and just put them on the offender registry as soon as the ultrasound confirms gender. Somebody in Spain should point out the math to the authorities, who should then get guns and blow their own brains out.
  - Chris
    
    Backhand Bohr method calc not far off. 418432 total live births in 2015. If half male it’s close. If the birth rate declines and the sex offender registration rate continues to increase, we should be able to calculate when male offender registry exceeds the male birth rate, I give it ten years.
    
    https://www.stat.ee/29946
    - Chris
      
      Further backhand calculation. Lets assume the number of men hauled before the Spanish tribunals climbs to 200,000 per year. Lets also assume the population declines from the current 46 million down to 40 million and then stabilizes. Fifty years from now half the male Spanish population are registered sex offenders. Fifty years later it’s every man in Spain. I consider this a conservative estimate.
2cyar

I’m surprised the birth rate in Spain is as high as it is. I guess there must still be a lot of men and boys who are unaware of the laws in their country.
- Iwasneverafeminist:honest!
  
  Apparently increasing numbers of U.S. (male) citizens are emigrating to Russia …
notinline

Much of the fuel for this fire in any nation is the notion put forth that “men are ignorant”.
This “running of the bulls” thing certainly does nothing to dispel the myth.
How many children have seen men participate in that over the years and concluded that they’re “stupid”?
The best thing any movement can do is stop shooting themselves in the foot for no gain.
Iwasneverafeminist:honest!

Does the West want to be saved? Does at least Spain want to be saved? The question is where are the Spanish women speaking out about this to save their own country? Another story of a country controlled by the “gynocracy” thinking they will hand men the keys back after the car wreck, with instructions to fix this “shit” before they get back from shopping! Hmm I don’t think they have really thought it through??

I miss the “old days” when I wasn’t .. as a male, public enemy number 1 by the State, and women were, well, were pretty much OK! So for all you Spanish women out there with no prospects of fertility or an accomplice WTSHTF … FUCK YOU, oh I do mean that figuratively 🙂 Or perhaps more aptly GO FUCK YOURSELVES 🙂
Iwasneverafeminist:honest!

My thoughts would be yes men of the West want cohesion or order and not chaos, how it effects my state of mind is that it is a real mind fuck to feel just how much contempt, bitterness and hatred I face in the community, must of it being covert from the State! I must have cog dis and keep thinking it will all get better, not so much it being a bad dream, I just can’t see why woman don’t just say we went too far, or at least the pendulum needs a few degrees of fall to the center? Perhaps men are feeling total fucking disbelief, that something so complimenting as a female could turn into such a complete smouldering heap of bovine faeces?? The other possibility is that females are ingesting chemicals that males aren’t and causing some serious damage to their executive function area of their brains! Seriously, is their something in the water?
Chris

At some point, the Spanish government will ban the robot brothels in an attempt to force men into relationships with women, The sex offender registry has a quota to fill, and they can’t do it if men can’t be falsely accused. That, or they’ll create a new law, a law where men can be prosecuted for rape when they use a robot without affirmative consent.
- Kronk
  
  And that will happen because we men will allow it to.
  
  There has to be something wrong with that type of thinking…
Chris

I just did a very quick back of the envelope calculation that anybody can recheck. If I recall from last night, he said in the video 400 new men being registered as sex offenders per day in Spain. The Spanish population is 46 million, with a 1.3 fertility rate. That would mean 200,000 men born per year and 150,000 being registered as sex offenders per year. At some point if trends continue, the majority of Spanish men will be registered sex offenders.
Karl Dawg

Even when societies all over the globe begin to collapse these bat-shit crazy nut-jobs will find a way to blame men.

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