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Karen Straughan aka GWW—AVfM Men’s Issues Conference, Detroit 2014

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For those of you who didn’t get to see it, we bring you Karen Straughan’s talk, in which she refutes the “once upon a time” claim that feminism started as a movement for equality. She explains that it has been always been about misandry, gynocentrism, and blaming men for all the evils of the world.

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  • PlainOldTruth

    EDITOR — TYPO ——— Hot on the WEB: A kinder, gentler turn to the gender wars? Someone finally see what AVFM is about. —- see / sees

  • Mark Samenfink

    That was fun

  • Turbo

    I watched this a few hours ago. Karen Straughan, as always, all class.

  • CanuckDuck

    Bravo Karen!!!!

  • Joseph Rivett

    Watching ‘Fox and Friends” as I type this……Cant wait to see how Liz and her manginas denounce the conference in an upcoming “Debate” later in the show.
    Point being: As the media covers this more, Karen should watch her back in future trips to the (FORMER) U.S.A, as I can see her name being put on a “list”.
    I put nothing past the Obama/ “VAWA Joe” Biden regime…..
    Excellent job as always Karen.

  • Andrejovich Dietrich

    Through the various videos I have seen Karen produce, or in live presentations I have been so intrigued over my own ignorance of history. I know its always been convenient to indoctrinate, vs educate in our school system. But the level of dishonesty where the past is concerned is neglectful at best and criminal at worst. I believe that all of this history which Karen uncovers and documents would make a fine documentary which should be aired on Television. Perhaps someday a campaign to raise money in order to produce such a documentary. As well as a paid campaign to air it. Here is the downside. Every channel has the right to decline to air even a paid program. So I would guess that such a campaign would be opposed and encounter serious issues in getting it on Television. I have produced several entertainment pieces, and I have had to modify them (Children’s animations mind you) if a Political point, or perceived political point was against the stations views. Even when they put their boilerplate “We are not Responsible for contents” slate prior to its beginning.

    • Stu

      Then the MHRM will have to by a TV channel one day, or the major controlling shares in one. If we get big enough, we can do anything, as long as people are prepared to finance it.

    • PlainOldTruth

      WHY THE BAN on the facts IS UNIVERSAL: Universal child care. Feminists obviously want it. And it is consistent with ALL totalitarian (“progress”) systems: Soviet, German National Socialist, Khmer Rouge, etc. — But her’s the part people ignore. The megacorporations want it BADLY. The want, as Robert Rubin said, when he was the Clintons’ Treasury secretary, that universal child care is desired in order to produce “a more flexible work force.” “flexible” = modular = discreet managed labor unit (which the institution of natural family interferes with). Megacorporations feed their preferred message through FICTIONAL presentations as well as news. The fiction-based propaganda is more powerful (synergizes with the fake news). This is why the “red pill” metaphor is so apt for MHRM.

      We do not need “reform,” we need awakening from the hypnotism that has indoctrinated all persons exposed to media and government-run (or goivernment-influe3nced) schools. We are quite literally in a mind-matrix and the sheeple are just fine with it and the notion of a slaughter-house is, they have been systematically trained to bleat, merely “a conspiracy theory.”

      • Andrew_S

        Why not read Fiscal growth and efficiencies in endogenous populations, it is available from any federal reserve repository and learn the real method and the means. No conspiracy theories needed, just the facts. Try a primer on the subject from

        http://ideas.repec.org/p/fip/fedmwp/630.html

        Before reading that I also suggest you download a piece of work from 1974 by some think tank representatives on the real purpose of family court judges it is called ‘ Formulating Population Policy: A Case Study of the United States” by Rebecca J. Cook’

        http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1937&context=ealr

        A family court judge and their circus is to all intents and purposes a family killing machine created to have only one output especially with the minds of children and their futures. In a buy it now and pay later culture the cost to the US is a predictable one. Learn how it is done. Do not blame females they follow the oldest trade in the world, and will always be suckers for better pay, the easy way.

  • John Rew

    Its like this woman can peel back my skull and read my brain . I have often thought that those people who quote statistics like “one in three women will experience physical assault” must be living in another universe. Do women really expect never to be physically assaulted in their lives. I’m pretty much a pacifist and its something that was very frequent in my childhood and is only less frequent now because I have learned to avoid it. I have never read or heard anything to convince me that feminism has ever been any better than it is today . Until recently I thought i was the only one who thought this way. Karen your guts determination and intelligence are an inspiration. Awesome!

  • ComradePrescott

    Karen Straughan is, as per usual, kicking ass and taking names.

  • Joseph Rivett

    @ 31;57……I believe Karen just told the “Sisterhood” to “WOMAN UP !!!!”

  • Matheus Souza

    The attitude of some MGTOWs in the comment section of that video is just appalling. They are basically shaming other men for “letting a woman speak for them”, and the behavior of some is akin to that of lesbian radfem separatists (minus the advocacy for extermination of the other sex). “Don’t trust any woman, they’ll stab you in the back as soon as they can”.

    • Shortcircuit

      I agree it is horribly stupid, but I’d rather have this stupidity then men holding other men (or boys) accountable for women in any form. Hopefully most of them will pass through it.

      Tell a man all his life that he cannot think badly of women, make him afraid to do so, and he will not develop any internal reason to like women. Take away the artificial reasons, and where does that leave him? In a bad place, that is where.

      Some will make it through that tunnel, and sadly some probably will not.

      What the extreme ones miss is that both men and women have played a huge role in villainizing male sexuality and teaching boys they are accountable for girls. The other side of that, also taught by the same people, is that female sexuality is somehow a pure, fragile flower and women/girls are not accountable for themselves.

      I don’t have a lot of fear that the MRM will become like feminism, even if/when it does become decadent. If you want to see a real civil rights movement that has some people want to take it too far, see the black civil rights movement. There has always been some who were racist in the face of racism, yet ultimately it has been a legitimate movement. Feminism was always bad, that is why it has done so much damage. The MRM in the long run will be like the black civil rights movement, not like feminism. At least that seems the reasonable assumption.

    • Shortcircuit

      I agree it is horribly stupid, but I’d rather have this stupidity then men holding other men (or boys) accountable for women in any form. Hopefully most of them will pass through it.

      Tell a man all his life that he cannot think badly of women, make him afraid to do so, and he will not develop any internal reason to like women. Take away the artificial reasons, and where does that leave him? In a bad place, that is where.

      Some will make it through that tunnel, and sadly some probably will not.

      What the extreme ones miss is that both men and women have played a huge role in villainizing male sexuality and teaching boys they are accountable for girls. The other side of that, also taught by the same people, is that female sexuality is somehow a pure, fragile flower and women/girls are not accountable for themselves.

      I don’t have a lot of fear that the MRM will become like feminism, even if/when it does become decadent. If you want to see a real civil rights movement that has some people want to take it too far, see the black civil rights movement. There has always been some who were racist in the face of racism, yet ultimately it has been a legitimate movement. Feminism was always bad, that is why it has done so much damage. The MRM in the long run will be like the black civil rights movement, not like feminism. At least that seems the reasonable assumption.

    • jbantifem

      I agree. It’s pathetic behavior on their part.

      I was MGTOW for a number of years in my life of my own accord. Long before anyone had coined the term MGTOW. Never did I do it because I thought ALL women were evil, nor did I hate them. I just wanted to put my own life into perspective before seeking out a relationship. Which I ended up doing. Not without a ton of searching around of course.

      We NEED women speaking up for us because as Karen stated in her speech here, “people listen to us.” And she is 1000% correct. If we demand change then we have to let women into our hemisphere in order for our demands to be heard and hopefully, taken seriously by those who matter. It’s just that simple.

      Karen was awesome here. I wish I could have been there. I hold the exact same mindset that she does – feminism was never a good thing and always a selfish agenda for women. Always. We’ve been fed and have believed total bullshit for 200 fucking years. How gullible we human beings truly are.

      Now it’s time to change the agenda. Today! Thank you Karen!

      • Shamednomore

        We absolutely need women advocating along with us men. I know this may not sound PC, but when women bring attention to unfair treatment of men in our society, it provides extra credibility ( kind of like… well if women are complaining then maybe its true). Men speaking on their own would be a much tougher sell…many would look at us as whinny weak men.
        Karen is the one, who more than anyone else, gave credibility to men’s issues for me. Learning from her videos, I then ended coming to AVFM and have not looked back.

  • sputnik

    St. Clair Shores = Seneca Falls without the malice.

    History in general is probably the most badly altered subject in the teaching thereof. The sheer quantity of blatant falsehood and deception is astonishing. Quotes from famously quotable people on this point abound, but the most succinct such quote comes from a certain “insider” icon who happens to be associated with Detroit, Henry Ford:

    “History is bunk.”

    After a close inspection of the true history of Seneca Falls — an inspection which additionally places those declared sentiments* in the social and legal context of the times, and Karen Straughan has just done such an analysis — after that, we can conclude, quite simply, that—

    St. Clair Shores = Seneca Falls without the covert malice.

    UTTERLY without the malice. The warmth was delightful; the good humor, abundant; the level of intellect and critical discernment a shameless, gross indulgence. 🙂

    But a bunch of hateful people (misogynists?) just– don’t– be– have– warmly, not even to each other. Those people — every last effin’ one of ’em (that I met, anyhow) and that was a large number for so short a time — were cool! Hangin’ with people who just *get it*.

    Trying to get to know as many of the other attendees was, well?– umm, time-consuming. I drove home — five hours — on a very improbable, all-natural high, fired off some emails to new-found friends whom I hope to keep as friends for a damn long time, and promptly slept for about 18 hours. Cheers, Dears!

    * “Declaration of Sentiments and Resolutions:” the document issued by the Seneca Falls women’s convention in 1848.

  • PlainOldTruth

    Feminists are good at memorizing;anti-feminists are good at understanding.

    The Ivy League should be in a bidding war over who gets to offer Karen Straughan an endowed chair. But they’re not. The university faculties and management bureaucracies are packed with dogmatic authoritarians and with PC-whipped cowards.

    The Soviet dictators (“equality!” “progress!”) were afraid to publish Gulag Archipelago, too.

  • PlainOldTruth

    Feminists are good at memorizing;anti-feminists are good at understanding.

    The Ivy League should be in a bidding war over who gets to offer Karen Straughan an endowed chair. But they’re not. The university faculties and management bureaucracies are packed with dogmatic authoritarians and with PC-whipped cowards.

    The Soviet dictators (“equality!” “progress!”) were afraid to publish Gulag Archipelago, too.

  • GWW, the good fairy here to save us all from “the season of the Witch”
    (Mike Bloomfield, Al Kooper, Steve Stills). She knows our plight
    intimately and that in our present twilight zone culture it only means
    anything if a woman says it. We love you GWW. -xxx- 😉
    http://youtu.be/NWkMMXgQohc

    • Perseus

      Good witch of the north

  • Is someone going to post Warren’s talk as a separate video?

  • PeterPan

    Very interesting points and based on facts and logic arguments!

  • Razedbywolvs

    Was there a Honey Badger bar fight?

  • Flo

    She is the original anti-feminist 😛 Respect!

  • Gavin Grant

    GWW delivers as usual! Always nice to hear some actual facts about the mythical “first wave”. I knew they weren’t as good as we’re told, but wow, this was really an eye-opener.

  • Kimski

    Nobody is asking what the Girl is Writing anymore…
    Some are even too afraid to ask.

  • Aldir Gracindo

    I tend to focus on men’s and boys’ issues and rights, not antifeminism, because feminism is just a moment – even though a moment lasting hundreds of years… – and gynocentrism and misandry being larger then it, and sustaining what’s wrong with it. But Karen always voices excellent anti-feminist points, made by herself and others before her. This corrupt movement will keep deserving our criticism for a good long while. This shit must be exposed until it can get the decency it lacks or loose it’s power to delude people for good.

  • Graham Strouse

    Well spoken.

  • Bombay

    Love the history.

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