Pussybeggar

Pussy Begging International

You see them popping up pretty regularly in the MRM; comments about the pitfalls of western women, particularly the dark and dreaded American Woman, followed by a recommendation to find a nice “foreign” woman with which to settle down.

International vagina is a growing business, and understandably so given the temperament and relative worth of so many women in the good old U.S.A… And there are a growing number of bloggers that make a life mission of belaboring the point, and demonstrating their confusion in the process.

I’m not really coming down on them. Most of us know there is enough truth to what they are saying to make Jesus smile.  But I am a little concerned with the implied idea that hypergamy isn’t a danger if you put your stock, and your cock, in a xenobride because she knows how to say, “Me love you long time,” with just enough sincerity for a bit part in a Kubrick film. Or because you are just crazy and stupid enough to believe your ambitions for a lasting traditional family will be satisfied via mail order.

Still, if you’re insistent, there are countless websites that can help you with the hookup, where women from Eastern Europe to the most remote of Southeast Asian shitholes catalog themselves row on row, like whores behind plate glass windows in Amsterdam, making their pitch for a ticket to the Promise Mall.

It has apparently threatened enough women and feminists in America that their mangina lackeys in government have been given marching orders to do something about it. Maryland is leading the way on trying to tighten restrictions on the business.

Make no mistake; legislation designed to make it difficult for men to look outside their own culture for a wife is a purely preemptive, hypergamous ploy to keep you as available fodder for American women. Besides, you might even decide to go ex-pat on them and take your future American garnished wages and future family court revenue with you to another country.  These people want your money to be stolen right here at home and redistributed to good old American girls.

It’s shaping up like a competition between different crime families for who is going to shake you down.

And there is an ironic twist here.  The mail order bride legislation was not furthered from any concern that American citizens might be duped by foreign nationals out of a cake made with their assets and iced with American citizenship. No, it is out of concern for those poor little wenches and what us American Male Losers might do to them once we get them over here. The mandated background checks are on us, not them.

Del. Jeannie Haddaway-Riccio, R-Talbot, said the bill would close the loopholes in current federal law and alert would-be foreign brides, who often come from poorer countries, of the criminal history of their suitors.

Did I say ironic? Make that misandric.

Of course, any legitimate needs assessment would favor a law to check out the potential bride, but as using sex and love to con men out of money isn’t illegal it would probably do little good.

Education beats legislation in matters like this. The best preventative measure we can take is providing a primer on the pitfalls of international pussy begging.

This requires an armchair analysis of men who are spanning the globe in search of someone to drain their wallets and/or break their hearts.  As far as I can tell, this breaks down into three kinds of men.

First (Paul grimaces before saying it), Men Who Can’t get Laid. Yes, even in an age where women are slinging no strings tail like it was free booze on skid row, there are men who can’t manage to drum up some stinky for their twinky.  How these guys even exist is completely beyond me, but they do, and their solitude and loneliness lead them to desperate measures.

This first category also includes guys who can get laid, but who lack sufficient Game to allow them to escape the kennel where it comes to how the women look. They are stuck in Butt-uglyville with no roads out of town, and the thought of life between the legs of an Andrea Dworkin lookalike makes them dangerously depressed. Nope, these guys want #1 fucky-sucky and they are going to pay to get it, often dearly so.

The next in the line of potential victims is the Disenchanted Traditionalist. This is the guy who wants a wife and a family but has seen enough of his own culture to recognize that the lotto-like odds of success are not with him.  He has too many friends in post-divorce life, driving used, P.O.S. rust-buckets, spending every other weekend with disgruntled children that have grown to disrespect him, with Mamma’s steady guidance, since the divorce.

This guy’s problem is intelligence. He’s smart enough, either through observation or personal experience, to read the writing on the wall, but dumb enough to think the solution will come waltzing out of the Department of Immigration – looking like a Penthouse model and ready to cook dinner. And oh yeah, because she comes from a “traditional culture,” she won’t ever divorce him and take everything the law allows, which is pretty much everything, putting him back to square one.

Of course she won’t. Never, ever.

The third and final kind of man is one for which I actually have some measure of sympathy.  I call him the Special Needs Romantic, or Ro-mantard, if you prefer. This guy’s ambitions are simple. He just wants to be loved, and he has looked around in his own environment and found it lacking. This problem is complicated and compounded by the fact that his idea of loving a woman is akin to that of a puppy whining on the back porch to be let in. He figures that a poor woman from Guatemala will be grateful enough to leave the door open for him all the time.

And she likely will till she learns about twenty words of English. And then he may find that her first complete American sentence is “I call lawyer now.”

To some degree or another, this poor schmuck also lives in the other two kinds of men, but the true Ro-mantard is a kind of psychotic purist. He cares only for loyalty and dedication; true friendship, partnership and most of all, acceptance. He craves these things so much though that he deludes himself into thinking he might be able to order them on the internet.

Of course the fundamental problem here is shared by all these men.  They are not trying to escape American women; they only think they are. They are actually trying to escape hypergamy- that universal sociobiological component that drives human females to constantly extract a better standard of living from the men that walk into their paths. Love, devotion, traditional values and country of origin have nothing to do with it.

Trying to circumvent hypergamy with a mail order bride is like trying to circumvent gravity with a trampoline. Even bouncing with all their might these guys are not going to defy physics. But many of them get high and off course enough for a very hard landing.

The mail order bride industry is infested with enough scams and cons to give Bernie Madoff a run for the money. But take a look at what happens when men fall for the ruse.  I make special note to the second man featured in this video. Link to video for UK.

Pity is, this guy clearly left this situation none the wiser.

There are other scams; too numerous to mention them all.  There are even scam agencies that expose other agencies scams in order to appear more trustworthy.

You can see in their advertising they have a great awareness of our terrible trio of men. Check out this video, and note the carefully crafted message in it.

I hate to give them a plug here, but I am assuming the men at this forum are immune to the bullshit.

Sorry guys, but the jury came in on this one a long time ago. Mail order brides are not a way around hypergamy; they are a prime example of it.  These are all women who want a better standard of living and they are willing to bunk up with a stranger, even someone whose language they don’t speak, in order to get there.

Are there good, decent, traditional minded women in Guatemala, Russia and The Phillipines? Sure there are.

Are any of them posting profiles on the internet to marry a stranger who will bring them to the U.S.?

What the hell do you think?

Honestly, how any man thinks he is going to get a traditional marriage or find love or loyalty or partnership by hiring an airmail whore is a question in need of an answer. And the closest you are going to come to an answer is to look at the parallels between traditional marriage and prostitution to begin with.

On the outside chance that this article finds its way on to the computer screen of some man contemplating this foolhardy path, let me make a couple of suggestions.

One, don’t.

Two. Yes, that means you.

Seriously, if you want sex, go read Roissy. No one is better prepared to tell you how to go about getting it, right here where it doesn’t take plane tickets, two grand and two weeks of your time to get laid. And that is if you get off light.

But, on the other hand, if you can even imagine the possibility that you are worth more than investing your life, your money and your heart in begging for pussy, then stay right here at A Voice for Men.  Take the red pill and start learning about life outside the bonds of tying up everything you are in female approval.

The self-worth that will give you will attract more women than you can imagine.

And dealing with them from there, for as long as you have self-worth, will give you plenty more to learn.

About Paul Elam

Paul Elam is the founder and publisher of A Voice for Men, the founder of A Voice for Men Radio, the AVfM YouTube Channel, and appears weekly on AVFM Intelligence Report, Going Mental with Dr. Tara Palmatier and weekly on MANstream Media with Warren Farrell and Tom Golden.

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  • http://avoiceformen.com Paul Elam

    “Oops Elam, I meant NATURALLY HYPERGAMOUS not monogamous.”

    I understand. I get those two terms confused all the time.

    I have no term to describe male hypergamy because male hypergamy, by the very meaning of the word does not exist. It is like trying to define male menstruation.

    Other than that I described, in detail, the motivations for men trying to improve their sexual and romantic lot in life with overseas women. Make up your own name for it if you wish, but as long as you keep insisting that it is hypergamy, the only answer will come from Dan Webster.

    So let me know when you can come back with questions that can actually be answered.

    And let’s see. There isn’t any overseas bride sites for American women to look for husbands in poorer foreign countries so that proves hypergamy, a legitimate word in English usage for over a hundred years, does not exist.

    You sound like some sort of white knight/mangina/fembot hybrid.

    The inbreeding has killed your ability to reason.

  • Guesswho

    No tough guy, calling me a white knight and other childish names won’t make your hypergamy delusion true.

    I don’t understand your hostility since I agree with your caution to men to be wary of mail order bride services. What I don’t agree with is you telling men that all women are hypergamous. That does not stand up to the most superficial scrutiny.

    Furthermore men are just as guilty of chasing women out of their league as women. Maybe you’re guilty of it too and attribute your lack of success to hypergamy.

    What I’m readin is the same a sense of entitlement people like you criticize in women, because the truth no man has to purchase love overseas, all he has to do is stop trying to practice hypergamy.

    • http://avoiceformen.com Tom

      “Woof.”

      • http://avoiceformen.com Tom

        “Woof” is what my old Rottie taught me to say when he overheard totally banal, sophomoric, incomprehensible bullshit when people were talking to me. Most times, it was the only cogent, concise, and logical response to what he and I had heard. I miss that dog — he died several years ago. But the “Woof,” however, remains.

        So again, I say to you, Guesswho: “WOOF!” :D

        • http://www.CanadaCourtWatch.com Attila L. Vinczer

          I miss Zeus my Rottie a lot. Best friend I ever had and loyal to the death. When he barked, it was for good reason. Buried him just about 5 years ago.

          • http://none Sir Oliver of Zeta

            I had a girl like that who I had to put down last Nov. Her name was Nikita.

            German Shepherd

    • Tim

      “Woof.”

    • The Enlightener

      All women ARE hypergamous….

    • thehermit

      You can twist it how you want, but these desperate men are not “chasing women out of their league”, but realized that there is no wife material left in their country. Marriage 2.0 is not a real opinion for men.

      Desperate people often make wrong decisions.

  • universe

    Good post.
    Mail-order brides from under-developed nations. Yes, essentially one is merely buying a wife. Purchasing a human commodity.
    From paying attention to the experiences of other men writing on the Western man-o-sphere, those who have been taken to the state cleaners to have the starch washed out from their collars, they too purchased their wives, as well.
    The regulars on men’s blogs know the story. Gal holds out for the best provider. The one who dances his promising wares in front of her. She willingly accepts the best offer from the highest bidder. Out of this arrangement that bond lasts roughly 50% of the time and then it’s fleece time for the trusting provider. I repeat. One is essentially buying a wife regardless of where she came from.
    The difference between a bride from another country and the stock available here might be skin tone and language. The rest pretty much looks the same. Give an economic mercenary a nickel and she’ll want the rest.
    Aside from my little contribution here I have no arguement with the original post.

  • Guesswho

    @Tim and Tom

    I’m imcomprehensible?

    So a bunch of males who can’t get laid, convene in an online discussion to blame their inability to get laid even by DOGS of foreign or domestic variety, on hypergamy.
    Well that’s the height of lucid reasoning.

    I’d say WOOF backatya but that would only rake up bad memorie of all the times you’ve been turned down by –

    DOGS.

    • thehermit

      Make us a favor, and cut this “can’t get laid” bullshit please.
      Marriage is not exactly about get laid, but who you want to live with. These men don’t want entitled western princesses by their side, and i can undertand their motivations.

    • Poester99

      True, getting laid is relatively easy. but LTRs and marriage are a different kettle of fish, or rice noodles, or whatever floats your boat.

      Entitlement princesses like you however are a dime a dozen.

  • Guesswho

    @thehermit

    Well who said western women were all entitled princesses? What entitlement are they demanding that is UNREASONABLE, and is there nothing that YOU might feel unreasonably entitled to?

    If we analysie the reasons men go abroad to get foreign wives we find that they’re not the most wholesome reasons. Is it any wonder then, that (western) women who don’t have to put up with the less than wholesome demands of “disturbed” men, choose to reject them?

    The sex tourism and the foreign bride industries seem to blur into one. It’s a sordid driven by unsavoury instincts that debase all it’s participants.
    It seems to me that travelling abroad with the intention to exploit the poverty and vulnerability of desperate people is hardly indicative of good character in the person doing it.

    Many of the legal safergaurds in place to protect women from abuse are excessive in my opinion, however the IMBRA rules Elam referenced seem wholly appropriate in light of the fact that there are western men and WOMEN who feel ENTITLED to take advantage of advantage of desperate people.

    • Poester99

      If your highness can make us all some sammitches, we might deign to read your tripe a little further.

    • fondueguy

      “The sex tourism and the foreign bride industries seem to blur into one.”

      From the perspective of the female, maybe.

      “It seems to me that travelling abroad with the intention to exploit the poverty and vulnerability of desperate people.”

      Don’t see the exploitation… all the Guy can do is improve her situation and offer a relationship. There is zero exploitation towards her, unless she is lying… but that would simply make her a whore.

      Did you see that Cambodia protects their women from men who may want to marry up, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12802339

  • Guesswho

    oops

    “It’s a sordid driven by unsavoury instincts that debase all it’s participants.”

    should read

    it’s a sordid business . . . .

    • http://none Sir Oliver of Zeta

      lol

  • http://www.CanadaCourtWatch.com Attila L. Vinczer

    I love women, but hate many things they do and are allowed to do with impunity. Women have been given huge power over and above what they already had. Women are clearly abusing their new found power.

    Men never had the luxury that woman enjoy at the expense of everyone.

  • thehermit

    “Well who said western women were all entitled princesses?”

    Well they are the most privileged ones of human history IMO. What a pity that it can not be maintained.

    “What entitlement are they demanding that is UNREASONABLE, and is there nothing that YOU might feel unreasonably entitled to?”

    Hmm. Why is it a necessity to reconstruate masculinity, and why not feminity? Who is unsatisfied and unhappy with each other on the first place? Why misandry exist?

    “The sex tourism and the foreign bride industries seem to blur into one.”

    Those are two very different things. Also, it takes two for a dance. We have a saying that the real suck is not to be a whore, but to work 40 years in a screw factory.

    Peter Ebdon, the famous english snooker player, had met a hungarian fortysomething women in a tournament, later married her, and now lives here. Do describe that as sex tourism?

    “It seems to me that travelling abroad with the intention to exploit the poverty and vulnerability of desperate people is hardly indicative of good character in the person doing it”

    Agreed, but it has nothing to do with the article above. Only in your head.

  • Guesswho

    The fact that my comment posted 11:08 is being voted down because I questioned the character of people who want to exploit poor people to GRATIFY some URGE, or overcome some inadequacy, is telling.

    Elam – when you’re addressing PURE AND SELF CONTAINED male issues, ie underfunded male health, the draft, male unemployment, a criminal justice system that is extremely oppressive to men, etc – NO ONE can touch your brilliance – except ONE man perhaps.

    But heed this advice before you respond with your usual bluster –

    gender war topics are a dead end and they only hurt the cause to bring legitimate male grievances to light.

    Few of the clowns you associate with are interested in any true male issue, it’s evident that the main gripe among most those who call themselves mens rights activists is

    1) that they can’t get a woman
    2) or that they can’t get total submission and obedience from a woman.

    And that’s the reason a men’s right movment hasn’t taken off.
    There isn’t a MOVEMENT OR ACTIVIST BASE that addresses SYSTEMIC injustices that hurt men. What YOU have instead is a lotta online whining about preferences among women that SOME men feel hurt by.

    That is not a movement Sir, that’s just
    the way it goes.

    • Poester99

      You, hun, seem to like to f*cking with people.

      Hey, no problem, this is the wild west blogosphere of the interwebs.

      But I’m sure that a chick like you that gets off on kicking men while they are down, will be more than aware you will get the same derision right back in your face.

      Paul posted this because he believed that it was important to address. I agree. So now that you’ve finished your spew, kindly fcuk off.

    • http://avoiceformen.com Paul Elam

      Few of the clowns you associate with are interested in any true male issue, it’s evident that the main gripe among most those who call themselves mens rights activists is

      1) that they can’t get a woman
      2) or that they can’t get total submission and obedience from a woman.

      Just noticed this. You are out of here. I will undo the ban after you email me an apology to all the men who post here.

  • Guesswho

    Every time one of you clowns flicks a finger to type a thought ya make us ALL look bad because all “THEY” need do is point to anyone of the unfounded EVIL EVE theories you use as the basis of your gender analysis.

    women are hyergamous – but men only want the LOVE of woman and it doesn’t matter if she’s broke fat and ugly.
    women prefer thugs because thugs make womens ginas tingle smh
    foreign women are more feminine and “traditional” (read docile and submissive) that western women.

    This shit has nothing to do with mens real needs.

    • POD

      O enlightened one, so why don’t YOU state what real men’s needs are ? I’m sure your broke, fat and ugly woman told you what you need, eh ?

      OK fine – men want utterly gorgeous beauties who will cook, clean and play nookie well, all without complaining. But most men actually are content with 5’s with a genuine good nature. It’s still nowhere as depraved as the outta this world demands the female 8s and above make, and still pretty tame compared to what 4s-7s demand.

      PS : there are sufficient men who do want only the love of a woman, even if she’s broke fat and ugly. That’s why they still exist, else they’d go the way of the dodo – read up on Darwin’s literature sometime to know the details. If men were as beauty-bound as you claim, we’d have a world inhabited only by 8s, 9s and 10s. Guess what ? Those are a minority !

      • POD

        A world with only 8s and above, boy now wouldn’t that be nice !

  • Mr. J

    Guesswho- Sadly, a lot of truth there…..Bragging about doing wrong to women because others have done you wrong is just plain foolish and accomplishes nothing.

    And…..just getting mad because a lot of women have gotten the gov’t to do their bidding accomplishes nothing either.

    Newsflash: POLITICIANS are the problem…..focus on that.

  • universe

    Entitlement princesses? What’s unreasonable about their demands, you ask?
    You’re new to this aren’t you?
    Spend a few hours in special/ “domestic” violence (kangaroo) courts. Without the horse blinkers.
    While you’re in the same building wander over into a divorce/custody proceeding
    “court” room. If you’re allowed entry sit and observe what transpires there. Then repeat several times. Most of the rulings favour the female when family and property disputes cannot be settled in more amicable surroundings not involving legal mercenaries upholding the feminist influenced status quo.
    Both
    special and ‘family’ court guidelines were, in my jurisdiction, illegally influenced by one-sided sexist special interest groups. (The judiciary were to be separate from outside social influence, especially paid interests, and charged accordingly if crossing that line). Individuals from within these groups, who said they were advancing ‘equality’, reflecting a narrow range of social parameter, not only were not charged with infringing upon judicial outcome but managed to install into judicial procedure a template in regard for only one participant, basis her sex, involved in disputes requiring legal intervention. And all done without peer review and verification of their presented data.
    What was once a evolved system of blind impartiality now reflects rulings based on the unverified data of unreasonable paid lobbyists advancing a naturally unsustainable outcome, basis one sex. How did these lobyists do it? Even though much of their data is unproven and tilting heavily toward error they somehow feel it important enough to unrelentingly advance it, nonetheless. Without qualification of data the proponents of what amounts to propaganda somehow feel qualified to ram their views into the public process without verification. Is there one word that describes this fury of procedure? Yes, and it is appropriate – feelings of: entitlement.
    But, let’s not stop at court proceedings. Introduce this style of vacuity in many other of the public realm and the results pretty much reflect similar to that of the judiciary. Institutional rules of a nation altered without verification. Only because members of the new malcontent say so. They have spoken. (Trumpets blast). But there is no main aristocrat. Only smaller versions – princesses.
    This arrogance of self-crowned importance filters down to the proletariat. They, too, accustomed early to certain deference and partiality, absorbing the recent changes befitting mostly themselves, still want and take more.
    This becomes common knowledge. And men are leaving it. Well, guess why. Some men are looking for the unspoiled frontier. And it appears not to be found here.
    Either way females are still living off the avails of a man/men. Whether she be living in the Americas as a housewife, the divorce initiating self-worshipping goddess reaping a post-marrige windfal, the single female beneficiaries of the many devoid of content feminist influenced social policies or the overseas dreamer innocent to the ways of the unabashed female greed front and center over here.
    The female word has been presented as paramount today. If there are women in the Americas who care for men, where are they and why are they not speaking up en masse?
    If it is going to be a man’s job to defeat the mess leveled upon men that feminist females and their lackies maintain, then it may just be appropriate to look for women elsewhere.

  • POD

    [quote]:
    1) that they can’t get a woman
    2) or that they can’t get total submission and obedience from a woman.
    [/quote]

    1 – in case you missed it, a lot of men here are married (and divorced , I mean – robbed and pilloried , one can’t tell the difference these days, marriage and prostitution are blurring into one cesspool).
    2. maybe , and it’s not an invalid expectation considering how immature and childish women are , letting play alpha bitch is the cause of so much trouble.

    Methinks it is you who can’t get laid, but even if you can , who cares anyway ? You’re only a few words away from a long stay in the dungeon. I wouldn’t trade my self-respect for any woman , even if that means giving up on getting laid.

    [quote]
    few of the clowns you associate with are interested in any true male issue
    [/quote]

    Enjoy your delusions. It is precisely interest in male issues that got me here, if getting laid (or not getting laid) was the problem, I’d spend my time over at PUA forums. Maybe you should head there, and leave men’s issues to men.

  • thehermit

    “This shit has nothing to do with mens real needs.”

    I guess i will know from you, what are REAL mens needs.
    C’mon, i’m holding my breath.
    Until that, don’t speak in my name.

  • Guesswho

    !) I am male

    and

    2) never said a damn thing about a “REAL” mans needs.

    I spoke of MEN’S REAL needs and by that I mean the REAL examples of injustice and inequality that should concern ALL men. NOT the woes of a MINORITY of men who have trouble relating to women in a healthy way.

    @POD

    there are sufficient men who do want only the love of a woman, even if she’s broke fat and ugly.

    and that’s because they’re even broker fatter and uglier. LMAO!

    That’s why they still exist, else they’d go the way of the dodo

    No – broke fat and ugly women still exist because broker fatter and uglier men keep breedin with em.

    That aint Darwinian – it’s best you can do, it’s HIGHPERGAMY. LOL!

    A world with only 8s and above, boy now wouldn’t that be nice!

    LOL!

    I agree, but wouldn’t 8s then become the new fat’n ugly and we’d all be chasing 12s.

    • POD

      OK, I mistyped – read as men’s real needs in place of real men’s needs.
      If you’d cared to read the now quite a few men’s rights associated sites, you’d realize that most of them are about men’s real needs – like fairness and respect with regard to legal issues, employment and healthcare.

      But you like any mangina will ignore the ones that don’t fit your agenda and try and harp on about anything to mock MRAs.

      [quote]and that’s because they’re even broker fatter and uglier [/quote]
      Eh ? As far as records go, women are more frequently fat/obese/overweight than men, and that holds true even in 3rd world where women supposedly are “underfed” and “denied equal access to food”.

      And broke because it is MEN who are robbed by uniformed goons on behalf of the parasitic princesses who claim the “right” to another’s earning, it is MEN who have to spend money to buy even the attention of the fat entitled princesses. Well, if it was up to me, I’d advise them to stop spending money on women, that is exactly why they are broke. Sure they would be lonely with some money, but that is WAY better than being lonely, cheated ,robbed and broke.

      [quote] broke fat and ugly women still exist because broker fatter and uglier men keep breedin with em. [/quote]

      See above point regarding obesity.

      [quote] wouldn’t 8s then become the new fat’n ugly and we’d all be chasing 12s [/quote]

      The scale’s only up to 10, I thought. But whatever, it’d still be hell lot prettier world all the same. Better a world where 8s are the new 5s. I don’t see why a world where average rating of attractiveness is higher is bad, what’s so bad about chasing 12s then ?

      Quit attempting to shame men by trying to paint men’s preference for pretty women as immoral. It’s far more moral to be attracted to beauty (a person’s attribute) than money (and external factor, not quite part of a person’s body or nature). Unless you think a world full of fat , ugly & broke people is the ideal society.

      • http://none Sir Oliver of Zeta

        @POD

        “there are sufficient men who do want only the love of a woman, even if she’s broke fat and ugly. ”

        and that’s because they’re even broker fatter and uglier. LMAO!

        Oh..Guess…I was actually begnning to see you as having some validity on the ball in a few things you had said. But after that statement..you have lost me…”brother”!!

  • Guesswho

    Enjoy your delusions. It is precisely interest in male issues that got me here, if getting laid (or not getting laid) was the problem, I’d spend my time over at PUA forums. Maybe you should head there, and leave men’s issues to men.

    What male issue are you interested in pray tell?

    and if your really think PUA forum can help cure your can’t get laidness, then I put it to you that YOU are the delusional one.

    Sheesh

    You guys must live in the most ISOLATED part of CLOUD CUCKOO LAND.
    LMAO!

    • Tim

      Woof.

    • POD

      Are you daft ? This site and several others have plenty of reading material about men’s issues. The only one here who doesn’t care about men’s issues is YOU !

      So your daftness, I shall list (off the top of my head) of the men’s issues this site is about :
      misandry in court of law
      misandry in society
      disrespect towards maleness in general
      discrimination against men in terms of their:
      physical & mental health
      parental rights
      legal rights
      employment issues
      marital rights
      education
      protection from false criminal charges

      ALL of the above interest me, and every of the other regular MRA visiting here. The only disinterested turd around is YOU.

    • Introspectre

      Most of the men here are talking about getting laid being a liability, given that the the legal climate in the west is so hostile towards male sexuality. They’ve given it up and moved on to better things so what are you going on about?

      Also why wouldn’t playing on gender specific biological motivations, (game) work, when both genders have been doing so successfully for ages.

      Btw, as you return again and again to pass judgement while missing the point, has it ever occurred to you that perhaps you just don’t understand? Or do you possess some form of omnipotent insight?

    • http://none Sir Oliver of Zeta

      “You guys must live in the most ISOLATED part of CLOUD CUCKOO LAND.
      LMAO!”

      And..ladies and gentlemen..The Lamest Insult Award goes to…………

      • BeijaFlor

        Aristophanes! “Cloud-Cuckoo Land” comes direct from “The Birds,” one of his satires.

        I give you credit for knowing something of literature. And that’s all.

  • Guesswho

    @thehermit

    “I guess i will know from you, what are REAL mens needs.”

    YES.

    “C’mon, i’m holding my breath.”

    seems like a pretty moronic thing to do yourself over an internet disagreement.

    “Until that, don’t speak in my name.”

    IF you mean – don’t speak for YOU, then I would have thought it was obvious I’m not.

    :-)

    • thehermit

      “IF you mean – don’t speak for YOU, then I would have thought it was obvious I’m not.”

      Yes you do. But you should not.

  • Guesswho

    @Universe

    Well what you describe relates to the SYTSTEMIC injustices that I spoke of earlier and I’d be the last one dispute criticism of the Family Law system in our respective countries (assuming youre American). Indeed, your point that the bias against men in that institution, has a corrupting influence on women is one that I myself have made frequently.

    The system is a LEGIMTIMATE entity to attack. Attacking women wholesale is counter-productive.

  • Guesswho

    “The scale’s only up to 10, I thought. But whatever, it’d still be hell lot prettier world all the same. ”

    Get over yourself and stop trying to be a smart arse”. “12s” was just a bit of fluff.

    Sheesh

    “Better a world where 8s are the new 5s. I don’t see why a world where average rating of attractiveness is higher is bad, what’s so bad about chasing 12s then ?”

    EXACTLY

    and if you go back to one of my earlier posts you’ll find I said the exact same thing. Men chasing women out their league and women chasing men out their league improves the dating pool because it forces everyone to raise their game.

    The objections to that however, were that I called the practice of men wanting higher grade women – male hypergamy.

    Those objections were made because it kinda weakened the “only women are hypergamous” festival going on this joint.

    Glad YOU agree with ME though :-)

    “Quit attempting to shame men by trying to paint men’s preference for pretty women as immoral. ”

    GHTFOH!

    When did I do that?

    The closest thing I said to that was when I said that westerners who go foreign to exploit poor people are of dubious character and I stand by that.

  • Guesswho

    eh POD

    If I’m a turd then go fuck yourself wanker.

    • Tim

      sniffle.

  • Guesswho

    Btw, as you return again and again to pass judgement while missing the point, has it ever occurred to you that perhaps you just don’t understand? Or do you possess some form of omnipotent insight?

    I don’t think any man is unscathed by female fuckry, misandry and all the other injustices against men, I know I’m not.

    I guess an outpouring of hate is carthartic for some men.

    Oh well I’m on this round of visits I’ve satisfied myself once again that there is still a need for ETHICAL activism on behalf mens issues.

    I’m out.

    • POD

      The reason you’re out is because you lack the ethics. Don’t project your behavior onto others by assumption, most men here are nothing like you, and thankfully so. You are a turd for calling the rest here clowns interested only in getting laid – those are your only interests ,we have others that get precedence. Given the average age of the men here, I’d say that is far from the truth. It is YOU who jumped to conclusions without even reading what the rest of the blog posts are about.

      If you don’t like what you see here, you go fuck yourself.

  • Ben

    You are so right about damages done to women in college. I am in college and there is just program after program of “The Gender Pay Gap Crisis”, “The War on Women”, “Date Rape”, “The Power of A Woman”, and the list just goes on and on. The underlying message is always “men are bad”. Nearly every week there is some big conference for women that warns them about men. Women are literally taught to hate men during college. Nothing good is ever said about men. Just last week they had the “Walk A Mile In Her Shoes” march where men walked in high heels for violence against women awareness. Next week the “Clothesline Project” will be held for women to write on t-shirts who were sexually abused but ashamed to come forward. It is almost an every-day thing to bash men here.

  • Carlos

    Married women from foreign countries, whether you meet them there, order them online or meet them in the US are also a good way to have your children abducted back to their home country in the event of a divorce or that they get homesick and, if your a father, don’t expect to have much real recourse when it happens.

    • BeijaFlor

      Good point, Carlos, and homesickness will happen … another clear and present danger is that the “foreign bride” will cuckold you with a fellow from her homeland, who speaks her language and echoes the values & culture she grew up learning. This happened to a friend of mine, “Joe,” who came out of a Christmas Eve party he and his missus had thrown – to find said missus in one guest’s Mercedes, giving the car-owner head. Soon after, she left Joe for the guy with the Mercedes; and as I heard the devolvement of the case, it was only her indifference that left Joe with his two teenage sons; in a rented apartment, ’cause she got the house.

      The culture of entitled women, in the USA and western Europe, is a strong factor in my interest in “getting out of Dodge” and living in, say, South America. Then, if I do find “una preferida” to bring home, she’s close to home and in her home culture – and hypergamy-targets, for her, will be fewer and farther between. That’s not to rule out the possibility, though; but I believe I’ll be less vulnerable to the courts in, say, Montevideo, than I would be in, say, Maryland.

      I am old enough that I don’t want to spend the rest of my life raising children. That, plus a simple outpatient operation covered by my HMO, cuts out another potential source of trouble and heartbreak (snip, snip!)

      Acknowledged, what I can do (being retired with a decent pension) is different from what you might be able to do. And my desires are not necessarily the same as your wants, needs or expectations. But I’m not here to tell any of you what you should do, think, or avoid; I’m here in hopes that I can learn from you, and I hope I can repay you in kind with whatever I’ve learned that I judge as worthy to share.

      Pax.

    • http://www.CanadaCourtWatch.com Attila L. Vinczer

      You are quite right Carlos. This happened to a personal friend of mine who’s wife went to Hungary, never returning with their daughter. Hague trial, corrupt judicial process that the Ohio father lost. There is an arrest warrant for her in Ohio, but she will never be there to face the music.

      There is the Sean Goldman case that took the Pressure from the US Government with the strong support of Hillary Clinton to finally have Sean Returned from Brazil. http://bringseanhome.org/wordpress/ I helped a little with that case.

      Then there is Stephen Watkins who’s children were kidnapped by the mother and her father some two years ago. Taken from the same school my children go to in Newmarket, driven to the US where she boarded a flight on a cancelled Canadian Passport to Frankfurt. This is considered one of the worst international child abduction cases in Canada. http://alexander-christopher-watkins-missing.blogspot.com/

      I captured the father in law on video coming out of Newmarket Court http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIK65shc5vQ He has been charged with kidnapping amongst other things. Scum bag. The kids are believed to be in Poland or somewhere in Europe.

      I would never allow my children to leave my side and never allow them to travel with mom to her native land without my being there.

      My own wife attempted to abscond with my children and then attempted to accuse me of taking the kids to the USA. Sick, sick mind that emulated her own sick plans.

  • codebuster

    Guesswho:

    and if you go back to one of my earlier posts you’ll find I said the exact same thing. Men chasing women out their league and women chasing men out their league improves the dating pool because it forces everyone to raise their game.

    The objections to that however, were that I called the practice of men wanting higher grade women – male hypergamy.

    Those objections were made because it kinda weakened the “only women are hypergamous” festival going on this joint.

    Guesswho, of course women are hypergamous. That said, however, Guesswho’s other main point is one that I’ve also made before. It is correct that the dictionary definition of “hypergamous” has a very specific meaning that applies almost exclusively to women. But average joes hitting on women way out of their league is also a problem as a male form of “hypergamy”.

    In the culture that I’m from, desperate men and bored women is a systemic outcome, a consequence of troglodytes with little to offer hitting on women that expect little of men. Game does not work very well in Australia, and the mating process has a closer affinity with luck and gambling casinos than it does with self-determination and high standards.

    And so in terms of Guesswho’s other main point, I kinda agree with him. Men with little to offer who feel entitled to hit on women way out of their league have a seriously toxic effect on a culture. It seems that the moral obligation to “earn” a friendship escapes them – it is a kind of phillistine sense of entitlement in a single-class culture. This form of male “hypergamy” dumbs everything down so that reality becomes self-fulfilling, and the little that women come to expect of men is the little that every man must also compete against.

    Putting it another way… what I’m getting at is that in cultures where women are disinclined to hyergamy, things are really no better. This is because the laws of supply and demand come into play such that increased desperateness in men shunts the culture into a first-come-first-served dynamic that more closely resembles a zillion sperm cells hitting on one average egg. An average joe might have a better chance of scoring a hottie in the antipodean gambling casino of love, but would a man who expects more of women want to associate with a woman who expects so little of men, regardless of how “ten” she might be?

    And with the dumbing of America under feminism and Obama, I see that the US has started to trend the same way.

    I would venture to suggest that hypergamous women have a greater capacity to love because they have a stronger motivation to select “the one” instead of “anyone”.

  • Guesswho

    Ey POD

    The reason you’re out is because you lack the ethics.

    Well if not being a pervert who goes abroad to exploit men and women and children in poor countries makes me unethical then I wear my “lack of ethics” with pride.

    If NOT spending everyday on the internet thinking up silly names and hateful behaviour labels to put on the other half of human race is unethical – then call
    MR UNETHICAL.

    “Don’t project your behavior onto others by assumption, most men here are nothing like you, and thankfully so.”

    Yes, assuming that the men here are ALSO decent and honorable men WAS indeed a mistake because most of the men here are nothing like that.

    “You are a turd for calling the rest here clowns interested only in getting laid”

    And you’re a playa hatin bitch ass who CAN’T GET LAID, trying to hide his BITCHASSNESS in the guise of men’s rights advocacy.

    “we have others that get precedence.”

    Hmm!

    Disagree – no MALE ISSUE is ever given precedence, here. You talk about GENDER WAR issues, ie issues that centre around male/female RELATIONSHIP conflict. Feminist bashing and women trashing are the core themes in this joint.

    “Given the average age of the men here, I’d say that is far from the truth.”

    Out of your own lopsided mind.

    How does the “average age of the men here” show that their issues go beyond problems with women and that they are commited to the FULL RANGE of men’s issues?

    I’ll answer what that is for YOU.

    Half of em are old enough to have been fucked over by a FEW women and have suffered some SYSTEMIC injustice as a consequence of that. The other half can’t get fucked by a woman but when they finally do – they’ll “graduate” to FUCKED OVER rank, and that’s when those “other issues” will take precedence for them too – right?

    How does that make your issues any less, SINGLE TOPIC, gender conflict oriented?

    Men’s problems in society arise every area of male experience, from BIRTH to death. Not just from being UNLAID to being SCREWED.

    Travelling abroad to exploit poor people because you can’t get laid back home is not borne out of a problem that I acknowledge as a MALE problem, ie a problem for MOST men, and ALL it ends up being is yet another EXCUSE for the authorities increase their power by instituting another layer of beaurocracy to control the behaviour of ALL MEN.

    You could argue that those kinds of men are a MALE ISSUE, in and of themselves, since THEY create problems for men.

    “It is YOU who jumped to conclusions without even reading what the rest of the blog posts are about.”

    I didn’t jump to my conclusions – I walked slowly to them, following your trail.

    If you don’t like what you see here, you go fuck yourself.

    Yep and if I did that I’d still be having more sex than YOU’LL ever be capable of.
    LMAO!

    • POD

      So much tripe, is that all you can muster ? Men looking for brides elsewhere doesn’t make them perverts. If anything, those women welcome the opportunity. The only pervert here is you and you’re full of shit. Evidently you’re least interested in any male issues or anything worthwhile to add – and name-calling isn’t anything worthwhile, neither is making assumptions about anyone you don’t know. Like you know exactly how much each one cares for x issue and how much sex each one has – yeah right. You don’t. Writing in bold doesn’t automagically turn lies to truth. So fuck off and stop trolling your nonsense.

      As for you getting sex ? You’re only worth Bubba and da gang arse raping you till ole Hell freezes over. Either way, your ass is grass.

  • Guesswho

    @Codebuster

    Interesting elaboration on the points I made.

    Kinda run away with it and took down a misandric path that I wouldn’t have done though.

    Since we’re all supposed to be about liberating men, then what’s wrong with a “got nothing” male being hypergamous? (and for the pendants, we’re using hypergamy since there is no male equivalent of the word LOL!)

    If it doesn’t hurt the culture when men marry beneath them, then why should it hurt society when women marry less accomplished men?

    If a poor working class woman marries a wealthy middle class man, she too becomes wealthy and middle class and so do any children they spawn.

    Why it can’t work the other way round?

    If the bitch is rich, then I become rich too so nobody need call me a “got nothing man coz now I got me something I didn’t have before – a rich bitch.

    And since rich bitches are becoming increasingly more commonplace than well to do men, there’s more reason for men to present themselves in the best manner to score the best rich bitch they can get. It seems that men are already taking this to heart with the rise of metrosexual man. That is, men making the best of themselves, aesthetically, NOT as you say, “troglodytes with little to offer.”

    Going Metro aint for me, I’m too old, ugly and ruggedly old school masculine, to sell on the dandy market. But I know there are hellova lotta woman who just love to worship at the foot (12inches) of an old museum piece.

    I say – HYPERGAMY FOR EVERY ONE

    LMAO!

    • codebuster

      Why it can’t work the other way round?

      Because everyone needs a purpose.

      Women’s purpose is ultimately defined for them not in what they say they want, but in their biology. And this is always defined within the context of childbirth. In times of plenty, from a perspective of comfort and security, when affirmative action shunts jobs their way that they don’t even have to compete for, they have the luxury to amuse themselves with fantasies about being career grrrls. But invariably when push comes to shove, when the affirmative action gravy train reaches the end of the line, when equality for women becomes a requirement instead of an entertaining distraction, then they will always defer to that ever-present escape-hatch that men do not have. She is WOMBman. That is her purpose, that she will fall back on if she has to.

      If the bitch is rich, then I become rich too so nobody need call me a “got nothing man coz now I got me something I didn’t have before – a rich bitch.

      But as a leashed tag-along, you have not fulfilled your purpose as a man. Provided-for men are not even remotely attractive to women, because absent in them is the one thing that women are secretly drawn to, which is respectability. Women are ultimately drawn to formidable men (there are many ways to define “formidable” – see Roissy’s latest offering for one example). Toy-boys without respectability can indeed be “convenient”, and even amusing at least for a little while, but that is not what gets women all hot and bothered.

      And since rich bitches are becoming increasingly more commonplace than well to do men, there’s more reason for men to present themselves in the best manner to score the best rich bitch they can get. It seems that men are already taking this to heart with the rise of metrosexual man.

      Rich bitches can thank the affirmative action gravy train for granting them riches that they’ve never had to earn. For what reason should the opinion of a shallow rich bitch matter to a man?

  • Guesswho

    @CodeBuster

    Women’s purpose is ultimately defined for them not in what they say they want, but in their biology.

    Uh? Women’s purpose?

    I wouldn’t deign to define ANYBODY’S “purpose” except my own – even as a philosophical excercise, so I’m not going to address that comment.

    But why do you assume that men who chase out-of-their-league women are less masculine that those who settle or even desire something less than themselves?

    Beg to differ mate.

    Isn’t striving to get better for yourself, rather than settling for what society tells you to be content with – a sign of

    DRIVE AND AMBITITON?

    And why do you assume that a man who lands a go getter woman would be content to be a “leashed tag-along”?

    I can assure you that the men I know who go after QUALITY (on all counts) women are not the kinds of men who could ever be described as anyone’s leashed tag-along.

    Takes a truck load of testerone JUST to think you’re supposed to get a bitch that everyone wants and wrecking ball sized BALLS, full to the brim to actually go after it.

    Meanwhile the men who tend to go for lesser women than themselves do so because THEY’RE LAZY and because they’ve accepted the CONDITIONING to
    STAY IN THEIR PLACE all their lives – in EVERY aspect of their lives.

    What funny too, is that many of the problems men experience, especially the kinds agonized over on this site, are due to men not being MORE CHOOSY about who they shack up with, and thinking they’re NOT ENTITLED to demand certain standards in the bitches they spend time with.

    Shit like “women are more biologically valuable” than men only feeds the idea that a man should feel lucky to score even the most useless, manky, washed out hag of a woman.

    LOL!

    Your ideas concern me because tthe message I’m getting from them is –
    STAY IN YOUR PLACE.

    No – DON’T STAY WHERE YOU DON’T WANNA BE.

    • codebuster

      Guesswho, you’ve reinterpreted and minsconstrued so much of what I’ve said, some of it deliberate as a strawman exercise and some of it just not getting my point, that it’s just not fruitful for me to respond in detail.

      I’m not saying “stay in your place”. I’m saying “lift your game” and “know your limits”, because you’ve gotta bring something more to the table than dumb, cheesy pickup lines. Indeed, with the way that women are today, my first advice to men would be to get a hobby. But sure, in conjunction with the numbers game, vacuous conversations run serially with female strangers can work for some men. But this sort of strategy is for losers that has a dumbing down effect. It is a deadend that is ultimately toxic, pointless and a whole lotta effort with little return. It is predicated upon the false assumption that women have something that men need, with the end point being the pedestalization of women. And if you don’t think that men have something that women need (beyond being a sperm-donating ATM machine), then you’ve proven my point. You’ve got to have balls to hit on women? You only need balls if you pedestalize them, and if you believe that they have something that you need. Take them down from their pedestal, and you’ll find that they are actually quite harmless and sweet.

  • Guesswho

    ey POD

    quoting you

    “As for you getting sex ? You’re only worth Bubba and da gang arse raping you till ole Hell freezes over. Either way, your ass is grass.”

    So this is what it comes down to, a so called men’s rights activist wishing jailhouse gang rape on another man.

    That’s the punishement you wish on another man over a difference of opinion.

    Told ya you didn’t care about men’s issues.

    smh

    • POD

      Nope, you’re not a man, merely pretending to be.

  • http://none Sir Oliver of Zeta

    quoting you

    “As for you getting sex ? You’re only worth Bubba and da gang arse raping you till ole Hell freezes over. Either way, your ass is grass.”

    :( I hope men are not saying that to other men here. That sucks.

    • POD

      Not to any men, and not to any men here for certain !
      GW is a troll posting with the intent of applying the usual shaming label “men who can’t get laid” ; claims to be a man but who knows ? Even if he were a man, it’s irrelevant to the subject and basically bragging to say “I’m getting way more sex than you are” , and my reply is apt for such a-holes, not that I truly wish for that to happen for real ; I save my most vengeful wrath for the femicunts.

  • http://www.cyclotronmajesty.net Cyclotron Majesty

    OK Good point. I think your probably right about the hypergamy of the mail order brides.

    But why do this? :

    “First (Paul grimaces before saying it), Men Who Can’t get Laid. Yes, even in an age where women are slinging no strings tail like it was free booze on skid row, there are men who can’t manage to drum up some stinky for their twinky. How these guys even exist is completely beyond me, but they do, and their solitude and loneliness lead them to desperate measures.”

    Why does this make you grimace? And why do men who haven’t gotten laid or can’t get laid need to be shamed once again? Frankly I think this is unfeeling.

    I would expect better from the MRM, than the upholding of cheap social status ordained by the act of copulation.

  • Guesswhoo

    From Admin: GuessWho, you seem to be slow on the uptake here, so let me spell it out again. You have been temporarily banned for the following comment:

    Few of the clowns you associate with are interested in any true male issue, it’s evident that the main gripe among most those who call themselves mens rights activists is

    1) that they can’t get a woman
    2) or that they can’t get total submission and obedience from a woman.

    And my response to it earlier was:

    “Just noticed this. You are out of here. I will undo the ban after you email me an apology to all the men who post here.”

    I will add now that the terms of this are non negotiable. For you to post here you must issue a blanket apology to all men posting here, including all me who have ever or will ever post here. Your apology must include an allocution of your ignorance and self admonishment for your transparent attempt to shame and mischaracterize men in the MRM.

    • http://avoiceformen.com Paul Elam

      I would add to this that you also need to admit to being a woman, whether you are one or not.

      • http://www.CanadaCourtWatch.com Attila L. Vinczer

        If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

      • Introspectre

        Well, it certainly shames like a woman.

      • thehermit

        He (or she) was just trolling, i guess.

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  • tallwheel

    Hi. First time poster here.

    I’m an American who’s lived in Japan for the past 9 years, and I while I can’t speak for other countries, I’d like to argue that the current mixed culture in Japan of traditional gender roles combined with imitation of Western feminism as it is perceived here, and an ever growing culture of entitlement has made the situation for men here even worse than that in the West. No doubt people will disagree me, but I’d like to make my case.

    Japanese women from even the youngest generations still dream of nothing more than marrying young and being a career housewife. Should a woman choose to take a job after school, in most cases she hopes to find a husband in her 20’s and quit her job when she gets married. That’s right – WHEN SHE GETS MARRIED, not when she has a child and might have more legitimate reasons for not being able to work.

    While this may be in opposition to Western feminists’ opinions where a woman’s career is just as important as a man’s, and a woman should be free to assume any role she chooses, not just mother/housewife, in Japan there simultaneously exist the same feminist ideas regarding sexual harassment, rape, and general notions of female entitlement that we have in the West.

    Add to this that Japanese girls generally come from financially stable families with only one or two children, which generally results in a “princess-like” entitled upbringing, and we end up with a toxic combination of entitled, lazy, princesses who make false rape and sexual harassment accusations just as much as their Western counterparts do. (And if you are a foreign man in Japan, God help you if you get accused of such a thing while living here.)

    Economic realities guarantee that only very financially successful men will be able to provide a Japanese woman with what she truly wants. The rest will have to just ask that she keeps her damn job when she gets married, and put up with her complaints for it.

    Of course we can say NAJWALT (Not All Japanese Women Are Like That), but at least this has been my experience with the women I have been involved with here.

    One famous example of how F’ed up the situation is here now is that there are “women only” train cars (during rush hours in major cities). This is allegedly to curb the problem of “groping”, which is supposedly rampant. (I’ve been riding the trains as long as I’ve been here and never seen it first hand or know anyone who has.) As you can clearly see, the same narrative of men being dirty criminals just by the nature of their sex is playing out here as it is in the West. I’ll bet if a woman touched a guy’s junk on the train, he wouldn’t even report it, and if he did, it goes without saying that no one would be prosecuted.

    If you meet a Japanese woman and believe that her kind treatment toward you is a manifestation of some yet extant culture of patriarchal paradise, think again. To you she may represent certain cultural fantasies, but you are also the same to her. Western men are known to be gentlemen, white knights, and to always follow the golden rule of “ladies first”. Supposedly, we have these qualities while Japanese men do not. If you are willing to fulfill this role for her, then please go ahead. If not, you had better hope she is an exception to the rule, or is able to be quickly re-educated on gender equality.

    I just want people to know that while Japan on the surface may appear to encourage very traditional gender roles, many of the same problems that appear in the West are also present in Japan. Many of the cultural studies done on Japan were written in the 80’s, and no longer accurately reflect the current situation. The same can also be said for South Korea from what I’ve heard. China also has many only child daughters who have severe princess syndrome. Beware!

    Southeast Asia certainly seems to still fulfill some of the stereotypes of the mail order bride phenomenon from what I’ve heard, but I can’t say much as my personal experience with those countries and the people are limited.

    • Paul Elam

      Welcome. Very interesting comment. If you would be interested in expanding on this a bit and submitting it as an article, we would be happy to get it. A lot of readers here have a great deal of interest in what is happening in Japan right now. You can email it to articles@avoiceformen.com

      Also, even if not interested in submitting your story, I would love to have an email exchange with you where I could ask questions about Japanese culture. Thank you, and again welcome to AVfM.

      • tallwheel

        Wow. Honored by your reply.
        Actually, I had been wanting to write something like this for a while, but couldn’t find a better place to post it than here. I’m definitely not the end-all expert on this topic, but I would be glad to work on expanding this if you’d like.

        I’ve never been married, and not much of a player, so my personal experience is limited to the few women I’ve dated during my 9 years here. I broke up with my last possessive Japanese girlfriend almost a year ago (whom I now believe was definitely a cluster B) and for some reason can’t get her out of my head. This lead me to doing some research and eventually finding Dr. T’s site, and through her site this one.

        Really enjoying reading the articles and comments here, and taking the red pill.

        If anyone has any questions about the situation of men in Japan, I’d be happy to answer them (to the best of my knowledge). That might even give me some ideas for how to expand the above comment into an article.

        • Paul Elam

          Cool. I look forward to hearing from you. Many of us have an interest in learning more about the herbivore phenomena. If you are going to expand this piece, any references to that would be great.

          Thanks again.

          • tallwheel

            Ah yes. I think I could mention the “herbivore men”. I’ve been called that myself a few times in fact. Why? Because I don’t appear to be screwing every woman in sight? When women call me that I always feel like it is some sort of accusation, like they’re saying I’m not a real man.

            Anyway, I’ll E-mail you something the near future.

  • SEforever

    If I couldn’t read I might think this was a femdom website. Many of the pics you use for your stories are just too erotic. I mean, are you trying to turn me on? For God’s sake, find some uglier women.