Lori B. Jackson recused from Kirk case by Chief Justice Ketchum

Snead goes double down on motion to gag Kirk, AVfM

In the case of Lt. Col. Joel Kirk, AVfM has been informed that State Supreme Court Chief Justice Ketchum has recused Judge Lori B. Jackson from the Kirk divorce case, and assigned it to Justice J. Jeffrey Culpepper of Monongalia County. The decision also puts a current motion to gag Lt. Col Kirk and A Voice for Men before Judge Culpepper.

This is ostensibly good news for Lt. Col. Kirk, as it has become abundantly clear that Jackson has acted inconsistently with the best interests of the Kirk children by allowing unsupervised access to them by their mother, Tina Taylor Kirk, who had been found by the court to be abusing them.

The grounds for the recusal were based on the negative impact of internet coverage of the case on Judge Jackson’s perception of Lt. Col. Kirk.

This has apparently also created a reactionary move from Guardian Ad Litem Mary Snead. After Jackson was recused from the case, Snead filed an almost identical motion (that to gag Lt. col. Kirk and AVfM) in district court, effectively seeking concurrent jurisdiction of two courts in the case, which would keep litigation against Lt. Col. Kirk and A Voice for Men active in a court which is more closely tied to Snead and Jackson’s realm of immediate influence.

More details on this will be posted as they become available.

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  • Tim Legere

    Its a start …

    • lensman

      I don’t know. After reading Dannyboy’s ordeal and living through my godfather’s (ordeal) I am currently viewing the court more as a bunch of fat cats scratching each others’ backs than a system serving justice.

      The optimist in me sees it as a vast improvement, but the realist in me sees it as an opportunity for the system to say “See? It’s not just this one judge that supports this child abuser.”

      Does anybody have any idea if the new judge has any connections whatsoever to the “Real Housewives Coven”?

  • Jay

    Not sure how to interpret this. Seems like good news, but it also seems counter to theories that the guardian ad litem was filing these motions at the behest of the judge.

    • Turbo

      My thoughts exactly.
      It certainly seems to be great news that Lori B. Jackson has been sacked from the case.
      But it does seem curious that Guardian Ad Litem Mary Snead would make further efforts to gag the Col and this site. After all, this site is attempting to put in place exactly the situation that the GAL herself recommended in her report to the court, for the safety of those kids.
      One wonders just what, if any, influence LBJ has over Snead.

      • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suz

        I’d guess quite a bit of influence. If this particular case is no longer theirs, why do they want him/us silenced? Could a ban on publicity (if it were even possible to silence us) be a ploy to slow down further investigations into Jackson’s conduct? I wonder at Snead’s loyalty; if Jackson goes down, does Snead go down with her, as an accomplice of sorts? Is Jackson telling us, “Here. You got what you want now shut up and leave us alone!” (as if she still has any leverage?) Since this case is out of her hands, I don’t see what she has to gain by another gag order – unless she’s hiding a lot more such misconduct. If merely throwing Tina to the wolves would save her career, wouldn’t she “meekly apologize for this one measly misstep,” and publicly vow to look more closely at all of her future cases?

        The Kirk case is completely out of the bag. For her, it’s over. What is she still trying to hide?

        Can we as citizens, request to see her rulings history, or would a full investigation only be possible if past victims come forward and give us their personal records?

        • Kimski

          I’m still putting my money on the assumption, that this particular rabbit hole goes much further down, and extends to far more cases than anyone realizes.

          • TPH

            How many cases and judges have been recused due to internet influence? You are right. The rabbit hole goes waaaay deeper than can be imagined.

            Some folks are in fear of losing their jobs or worse, being exposed to the public.

        • TPH

          Exactly. We need more cases showing bias and sketchy rulings on Judge Lori. B Jackson. The worn out phrase “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire” is as relevant now as it was when it was coined.

          Let’s do a Sherlock Holmes on her. Watson are you there?

          • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suz

            All in!

  • bowspearer

    The GAL is running scared. She knows that once Judge Jackson starts facing the music, she’ll likely be soon to follow as the gag-order makes her appear complicit.

    She may be going for “double down” here, but it’s one hell of a bad bet on her part – one that will come back to bite her in the ass.

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      I’ve noted this elsewhere in the thread, but I suspect the exact opposite is what’s really going on.

      I may be wrong, because no one’s spoken to the GAL, but as a GAL she had no choice but to file something. Literally, no choice, unless she wanted to lose her job and possibly never work again. There are all sorts of things she could have done here that would be much more severe, including moving that the children be removed entirely from Joel Kirk’s custody and reducing him to supervised visitation, amongst other things. Instead she files a motion asking that he be shut up, which is of dubious merit and any attorney knows it’s of dubious merit.

      This is an enormous opportunity for Col. Kirk, if he plays his cards wisely.

  • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suz

    And thanks for this news, Paul. I’m running out of random addresses, and my alter-ego’s Facebook account was suspended – for some strange reason…

    Must sleep now. New job tomorrow.

  • http://mrathunderinthehammer.blogspot.com/ Dannyboy

    Positive movement in this case gotta love it.
    As for Ms Snead filing another gag order, well let’s just see how that turns out.
    I would like to see how the broadcasting of the facts in this case with redacted names could ever inflict harm on these children.
    In fact the lack of broadcasting the facts of this case would have guaranteed those children greater harm and continued abuse by ms kirk.
    I wonder what the GAL’s response to that would have been?
    Would she have launched an appeal on the behalf of those children?
    Or would she have just knuckled under and hoped for the best?
    I don’t like the reason why lori was recused from the case. She needs to be investigated for her actions.
    I do hope the folks from W. Virginia never forget that little item. The well being of their loved ones depends on her not having a position of power where she can abuse people.

  • OneHundredPercentCotton

    I don’t understand the GAL’s actions here as well.

    I have little experience with family court, but I don’t understand how the court assigned an attorney as a “GAL” for making evaluations of these children , or what qualified this person to be the GAL of these children.

    Here is some information I googled on her. I notice advertising a workshop for being a paid court witness with her name as the info contact in one google search.

    Whatever her motives may be, it just doesn’t seem to have anything to do with putting the interests of these children first.

    Why would the one “good guy” in this story now be behaving like the “bad guy”?
    Mary Elizabeth Snead

    Email: mes@ramlaw.com
    Phone: 304-326-5315
    Fax: 304-622-5065
    Office: Clarksburg, WV


    Ms. Snead is primarily involved in the defense of employers and businesses, self-insured employers and insurance companies, including administrative litigation matters.

    Education Credentials
    B.A., Double Major: Criminal Justice and English, Marshall University, 1989
    M.S., Industrial and Labor Relations, West Virginia University, 1999
    J.D., West Virginia University, 2003
    Summary of Experience
    Defense of corporate clients and their insurers and insurance defense in the areas of wrongful death and personal injury claims, class actions and toxic tort litigation and premises liability issues.
    Defense of a wide variety of employment related claims including deliberate intent, wage and hour claims and workers’ compensation issues.
    Variety of experience drafting pleadings, motions and other legal documents, responding to discovery, and trial preparation.
    Lectured on various workers’ compensation and employment related topics.
    Bar and Court Admissions
    U.S. District Court, Northern District of West Virginia
    U.S. District Court, Southern District of West Virginia
    West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals
    West Virginia State Bar
    Professional Affiliations
    Harrison County Bar Association Board Member
    Defense Trial Counsel of America
    Defense Research Institute
    Society of Human Resource Managers
    Awards and Honors
    2009 West Virginia Rising Stars, Civil Litigation Defense

    Community Involvement

    Board Member, Central West Virginia Community Action Association

    • Tawil

      I smell something fishy in this woman’s behavior too. I’ll email you some details re why.

      • Kimski

        I’d like to know if she’s divorced, and if she is, which judge handled her case?

        Not insinuating anything, just curious.

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      Knowing something about how the family court machine works, and how people who are INSIDE the system who wish to reform it tend to think and believe, I believe Snead’s actions are exactly the right actions and provide exactly what Joel needs if he’s smart enough to see it.

      I’m not going to go into a lengthy explanation, but, in short, while on the surface these things all look very negative, what she has in fact done is pitched Joel a fat, slow, right-across-the-plate ball that he can knock out of the park in one swing.

      As a result of this motion, and the fact that this is now going to a new judge, Joel now has standing to have Lori Jackson’s entire original order vacated. He had no such opportunity before. Joel simply needs to be smart enough to see this, and have an attorney who’s savvy enough to see it too.

      My prediction is that if Joel keeps his head and plays it right, the incompetent lizard-in-a-robe Lori Jackson’s original order will soon be completely vacated.

      • Darryl X

        “…what she has in fact done is pitched Joel a fat, slow, right-across-the-plate ball that he can knock out of the park in one swing.”

        “He had no such opportunity before. Joel simply needs to be smart enough to see this, and have an attorney who’s savvy enough to see it too.”

        That Joel even has to do this much let alone as much as he has already done and endured already is an example how broken the family court system is and how corrupt and dishonest its judges are.

        There aren’t many attorneys who are that savvy especially in family law and even the ones who are that savvy are smart enough to know which side their bread is buttered on and will not represent a client like Joel. They represent the courts, the judges and the opposing attorneys before they represent their clients.

        Lori Jackson still needs to be impeached and jailed for her egregious abuse of power. And her entire chain-of-command and any judge or attorney or GAL who enables, capitulates to or otherwise participates in this fiasco needs to be condemned with her.

        Take no prisoners. And yes I signed the petition. Because there is no law operating here and the Constitution has been ignored. A petition is all that’s left (and revolution as an affirmative defense against the violence done to us first and without provocation).

        Too bad we can’t do to all the other judges and attorneys and GAL’s in this country what we are doing to Lori Jackson.

      • Brian_Unfiltered

        If what you say is the case, maybe we (and our lawyer friends/family) could find the bait and let him know. It would be nice to get an afvm super think tank going for situations like this.

    • SolitaryMan

      GAL’s are appointed by the court. You do not piss off the judges in your court if you wish to work as a GAL. In my state, pay for a GAL is about 1/3 a working attorney’s rate, so they are either young attorneys building a practice, really dedicated, or doing “semi pro bono” (paid, but for the public good) work. Given that Snead graduated in 2003, I suspect it’s more the latter two. On the other hand, WV is a small state, and attorney salaries there are well below the national average (as is cost of living).

      I found this list of duties for a WV GAL:

  • Shrek6

    Sounds like the rats are scurrying around looking for a way out. Not sure if this is good news for the Col. yet, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    Like the Moody Blues say in their song, “In the Beginning” by Graeme Edge:

    “It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.”

    This is a fitting saying for this particular situation, I do believe!

  • TPH

    Hmmm, Paul-what are the chances a judge can gag a website based in the lone star state from another jurisdiction? Would Texas knuckle under and grant a duplicate gag order?

    We’ve got to keep the pressure on to FTSU.

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      I’m not Paul, but I can tell you that the chances are very low but that we are entirely prepared if they make such an attempt. And the short answer will be “fuck you, come and get us.”

      In fact if that judge is reading this, this is just for him: we dare you. We double-dog dare you. You can’t turn down a double-dog dare, can you?

      Oh please don’t throw us in that briar patch! Please, we are so afraid of that briar patch, please please don’t throw us in there! [evil laugh]

  • Skeptic

    They can try and gag all they like.
    I’ll bet several overseas MRAs would be more than happy and savvy enough to download all relevant sections of this website to keep the whole issue alive on the internet with links folks in USA can easily follow if need be.
    Forward thinking overseas MRAs may have already done so too.
    Think they’ll reach some dudes in the Phillipines, Korea, Sweden or Kenya for example and get them gagged too?
    I don’t think so judgeepoo!
    We are gonna FYSU!

    • Tawil

      Agreed. There is international interest in this case. I’m Australian and I can pledge that if there is a gag order on US citizens free speech (ie. which wouldn’t work) I will upload all of previously published material to my website and blog. I will also instruct others to do the same.

      The motive for doing this is to assist in procuring the Kirk children’s safety… they are presently in the partial care of a child-abusing, and mentally ill mother- with Borderline Personality Disorder no less! This information needs to remain on the public record in order to keep the court system on track.

  • ZenCo.

    I’m back from the near-dead. I’ve been following this case and am feeling no sense of compassion here.
    This bitch needs to be made an example of. Capitulation on her part is meaningless – she needs to be ruined completely. Disbarred and disgraced in her own community. She needs to be held up as an example of what happens when you disregard the Constitution and your oath of office. No mercy.

  • Man

    I expect the gag order to go through. The new judge will probably lock everything down so he has time to review the entire case from the beginning. This is in their news cycle. It may go national. The judge knows all we know. He will want to do the right thing but also cover his ass. It indeed is a start. The recusal tells us their supreme court recognized a need to remove a judge from a case. This is rare and very important. Also, Lori B. Jackson need to be targeted for prosecution and suit for her actions. We can not let this corrupt judge off the hook now that she is off the case.

    • dhanu

      I’m not familiar with the court procedures but why would the new judge need to gag AVfM in order to study the case? It’s not that he is working on the exact same files as we. There are two copies. He can continue working on his copy to study the case, without any need of destroying ours. No?

      • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

        An intelligent judge would not even attempt to gag AVfM.

        A stupid one would do so, and get laughed at.

        I may be proven wrong, in which case I would fully expect people to mirror stuff all over the place so it can’t go away.

        But I don’t think it’s going to go that way at all. Let’s hope I’m right.

        • dhanu

          @Dean Esmay

          You have a lot of experience with the courts and their ruling, and I have always found your suggestions regarding legal matters very useful. I sure hope you’re right here too.

        • Darryl X

          “An intelligent judge would not even attempt to gag AVfM.”

          Do you know any of those?

  • TigerMan

    It could just be that the secrecy of the family court system is something all involved in have come to relish. Whatever certain members of the system may think about an individual case they may feel united overall in favour of a status quo of secrecy.
    The arguments for maintaining secrecy would have more weight if there weren’t so many cases coming to light where childrens interests were clearly coming last. It is also extremely worrying that the Child Support system has become big business in itself. Public services and agency that employ reduced accountability through secrecy only works as far as the thus empowered concerned are truly working for the common good rather than narrower self interests.
    Unfortunately if there is a current mechanism for disciplining those not living up to the standards we could reasonably expect of them it clearly is not working..

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      There is a current mechanism: impeach Lori Jackson.

      Signed that petition yet?

  • Tim Legere
  • King Fisher

    Ketchum clearly wants to be the very best, like no one ever was.

  • harrywoodape

    Time to link our arms together mates. Make no mistake about it…if it ain’t this judge…or the last one…eventually one of them is going to try to undermine anyone that shines a light on the corrupt practices of some of them. Gag orders make me want to gag (is that all you got bitch please?!)
    It’s very in fashion these days to try to stamp out free speech and those that expose corruption or incompetence from on-high become targets. Our femily law system has curiously been implemented around much of the globe (all the NATO countries anyway) and is fucking over the average citizens on a regular basis. It isn’t unintentional really.
    Men’s rights cannot be recognized or granted by them without compremising everything our society is currently doing. Men would refuse to go to war. Men would be part of the family and not exiled to pay for the family in solitude. Kids would grow up with their fathers around and would help the kids become happy, productive mature adults. Yep, even basically acknowledging the growing demands of men would lead to change in our society and a far stronger public…and they don’t want that at all do they? Also, they would be compelled to acknowledge that they have been consciously doing some really dirty things to the general public for along time now in private. People are catching on. You people have caught on. Keep watching, keep publishing, stay connected, and be a light for truth and support for others in your community. Bless you all for you are the brave…and trying to do the right thing for us all really.

  • Gamerp4

    I think along with that socalled “Judge” this Ad litem Guardian Mary Snead is guilty, not only is she supporting those abusers, she is intentionally putting the children welfare on the line, She is not a GUARDIAN but an ABUSER herself.

  • Augen

    No mercy for Jackson but I caution folks reserve their judgement on the GAL. Everyone involved in this system lawyers included as well as all agents of the court as much as are required to swallow a blue pill sold under the label of “leaveit2theprofessionalsathal”. They can civilly disagree or take opposite postures, but they ALWAYS keep it in the family. To not do so is essentially to face complete ostracism by every one of their peers, foe or friend.

    The family court system does not do public exposure. I would guess if there were private discussions between the GAL and Lt Col Kirk they probably go along the lines of “I agree with you, I cam on your side, but I totally disagree with you taking this public. I cannot and will not condone it”.

    And, though she is paid to believe this, she probably thinks she believes it. They cloak it in painted over ethics that claim that even if this case is going wrong, taking it public threatens the wellbeing of children everywhere because the case may encourage other parents to take such evidence public rather than to submit to the dark dank chambers of the court system.

    Analysts were paid to believe we weren’t in a housing bubble.
    Family law professionals are paid to believe this. You can be sure the GAL does.

    So … she isn’t necessarily against the children, but she’s operating in the system the way she has to. By doing this she allows herself. And others to advocate for the kids within the system because she is preserving her credibility and worthiness with her peers, I.e.: “see, I did everything I could to stop the publicity and I made known my disapproval”.

    She could make of herself a sacrificial lamb, but that would probably achieve nothing.

    For AVfM and fathers and children and people of good will everywhere, it just means stay the course.

    I think the best we can do is to make it clear this case is not exceptional. Make it clear we will no longer respect these gag orders.

    Starting today, and forever, Family Court everywhere will be exposed to the light of day. AVfM serves its public role by doing what insider reformers cannot do and ripping down the charade without apology and with solemn promises to do so again and again, until this system either gains the fortitude required to clean itself or suffers a blistering and santizing sun dye.

  • http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism-page/karma/ KARMA MRA MGTOW
    • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suz

      I tried. Not sure if it’s worth it, and not sure if they’ll publish my comments. Ugh.

    • andybob

      They closed those comments mighty fast. Only 22 allowed.

      • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

        I feel special. I got there in time to submit, and they almost immediately closed after I left my comment. Just before they were going to approve it, I am sure.

        I suppose it is time to start using anonymous links in the comments, KARMA.

    • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suz

      I snuck two in! My link has had a few hits too – I worded it carefully so that no feminist could possibly object to it. I wonder if they’ll delete it…