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Video Update: Darcus Howe on the London Riots

The audio of this video was featured on The August 9 Episode of AVFM radio.

Journalist Darcus Howe speaks to the BBC on the social climate and causes of the London riots. The female BBC interviewer tries at several points during Mr. Howe’s explanation to interrupt him, claiming he endorses mob violence, and later claiming he’s a rioter. In fact, she perfectly illustrates the willfully ignorant mentality which led to the riots in the first place. Even as he explained the problem, she’s clinging desperately to a dishonest and obsolete view in which people riot not because they’re marginalized, brutalized by an increasing police state, and disenfranchised; no, they’re just “bad people”. What an idiot.

Quoting Mr. Howe: “Our political leaders had no idea, the police had no idea. But if you looked at young blacks and young whites with a discerning eye and a careful hearing, they have been telling us, and we would not listen, to what is happening in this country to them.”

The Washington Post published a short piece on this interview which substantially illustrates the wilful ignorance and stupidity which a major fraction of the mainstream media seem to be following. From here.

 

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  • Zuberi

    More proof that the mass media is a bad joke. The trout kept interrupting the man because he was telling the truth. In socialist piss holes, telling the truth is a terrorist act.

  • orry

    1. Just because he is not shocked, therefore he must condone. (Aaarrrggghhh! I wanted to slap that bitch!).
    2. @ 1:46 it looks like he said he saw the shots fired….just as she interrupted and his microphone was turned off. We have to wait for the police report before we can say things like that. Like what? An actual eyewitness account? (Aaarrrggghhh! WTF?)
    3. Just because he participated in demonstrations before as a redress of grievances, he must be a rioter. (Aaarrrggghhh! Another slap!)
    4. Glad to see him put her in her place. “Have some respect….you sound idiotic”. That was great.

  • Just1X

    I saw his face and heard his accent on a documentary show some years ago. I was waiting for the whitey shaming…and was amazed.

    This guy was visibly upset with the youth of his own race(!) I don’t remember agreeing with everything he said, but he certainly had identified the real problems (rather than the ‘oh woe is me’, lefty victimhood ones).

    Unfortunately (for reality), his views don’t fit the preferred narrative.

    I’ve watched a lot of the footage of the uk shopping riots. I haven’t really made my mind up whether this will help start addressing the problems with society, or just cause another wave of youth centres (cos the kids got nuthin to do, innit).

    Address the issues, or just chuck some money at the youth and ignore them again…tricky for the politicians, very tricky

  • conservativation

    Not sure the point of this mention here, am I detecting some sort of subtle rage against the establishment even in these comments?
    This man says we must listen to these young folks. Uh, sorry, no we dont. With academically indoctrinated youth leaving uni with a worldview that consists of slogans and a dearth of reality, no, we need to TEACH them, not listen to them.
    The rioting is abhorrent, and will spread to the US more and more as people demand more and more from a system whose ponzi scheme has had the pyramid foundations ruined.

    • http://mens-rights.blogspot.com/ Tom Snark

      Absolutely right, what is needed is to mete out some serious discipline before this happens, and serious punishment when it does.

      ‘Listening to’ the rioters? And what do they have to say, other than “brrrrap blud innit”?

      They are clueless neanderthals, almost as stupid as their leftist enablers.

      • http://www.mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/ Masculist Man

        Snark,

        Were you and conservativation hired by the matriarchy to do damage control? Because it sure sounds like it.

  • Eoghan

    They knew it was coming, I’m looking for an old article that talks about MI6 predictions and two of the were civil unrest and also an internet based revolution. If I can find it I’ll post it here.

    • Adam

      Others have predicted a surge in African and Middle Eastern immigrants to Western countries which is becoming more apparent as they flee their wartorn countries.

      There’s plenty of predictions out there, I’d also wager there’s some kind of contingency plan for most of them. Such as welfare to all fresh immigrants to buy votes etc.

  • BobbyL

    Google “Revolution, flashmobs, and brain chips. A grim vision of the future”. The high military think tanks have published projections for escalating riots all through the western world for the next 30 years. This includes the FORMER middle class becoming revolutionary. The think tanks don’t have a crystal ball. They’re told what the PTB have in store for we the little people.

  • http://equalitythroughtruth.blogspot.com/ Jean Valjean

    I’ve been listening tot he reports on NPR and BBC about this and it’s all the same. This has to do with gangs and with bad children and has nothing to do with the policies and attitudes of the government.

    I say, “let it burn”.

    • http://thingsarebad.blogspot.com Jeremiah

      “This has to do with gangs and with bad children and has nothing to do with the policies and attitudes of the government.”

      But the gangs and “bad children” are the result of the policies and attitudes of the government and society.

    • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F

      Can it be possible for a government to be a gang of “bad people” ?

  • conservativation

    @ Jean valjean

    What policies and attitudes of the government create full blown stupidity? Im pissed therefore Im going to ruin my own neighborhood? Um…..OK, best to you.
    Or are you saying that the cut backs in dole handouts are pissing off the restless poor youth? Maybe the NHS running low on quid is buggin em? Public services a bit sticky wicketed?
    Is there a rational thought that can accompany thinking about these youth that are allegedly bothered by the “attitude of the govt”? For example, there IS NO MONEY for starters.
    There simply is no excuse for a coddled generation to riot against their masters

  • Donn

    “Just1X

    I saw his face and heard his accent on a documentary show some years ago. I was waiting for the whitey shaming…and was amazed.

    This guy was visibly upset with the youth of his own race(!) I don’t remember agreeing with everything he said, but he certainly had identified the real problems (rather than the ‘oh woe is me’, lefty victimhood ones).”

    If you read anything other than mainstream garbage you would know there are quite a few(and growing) of us who are tired of the victimhood profiteering and the lack of addressing the issues for real, once and for all, but thanks anyway.

    Btw, Left, Right, doesn’t matter, and hopefully you realize that sooner than later.

    • Just1X

      “Btw, Left, Right, doesn’t matter”

      Fully aware that the effects are pretty much identical.

      The excuse-everything language is a specialty of the left though, IMHO.

      Teh Right use different language and then still do pretty much the same brain-dead things.

      “If you read anything other than mainstream garbage” again, your warning is un-needed thanks.

      I realised a long time ago that the beeb (in particular) and other meedja organisations love their preferred narrative. Tories BAD, Lefties GOOD, you little people should be thinking this way, anthropogenic global warming is settled science and you don’t need to worry your pretty heads about the evidence (just pony up the extra taxes and let us waste it as well).

      All, I WAS trying to say, is that Darcus doesn’t fit his bbc assigned role. The documentary show I saw (some years ago), the guy asked other races what they thought about blacks. When told ‘troubling’ opinions, he didn’t start denying their validity and ‘is it cos I is black?’. The guy criticised his culture. He’s got some intellectual balls, a rare thing indeed in this modern world.

      If he’s got something to say, he might be worth listening to, jus’ sayin’ – YMMV

  • Bev

    This item by Melanie Phillips puts it in a nutshell. This is the future of Western civilization if nothing is done. Harriet Harman as one of the leader of the hate campaign against men and should be prosecuted for crimes against men and society. At the very least an entry in Register-her.com.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

  • Rocco

    I like it…soon the West will not be attractive at all and I will be out of the US.

    Let this news woman and her deluded cronies have a world in which she, a journalist, can’t even say a guy was shot by police without an officail police report.

    She openly admits that the police write her copy. Rupert Murdoch has done a nice job of handing the press to the government on a silver platter.

  • Rad

    What happened to the UK is multiculturalism — which they invited for decades.

    Add in the welfare state, and indiscriminately welcoming Muslims of all stripes into the country, slowly increasing the heat applied to the element, so to speak.

    The reality that the incident that sparked the riots is not really that objectionable (Pull a gun on a cop, what do you think is going to happen?) is not even the issue. The real source of the violence is hidden underneath a lot of PC garbage, this was just one tipping point.

  • Robert Full Of Rage

    The response to men’s anger in the past was to tighten the handcuffs on men. If more people acknowledged men’s pain, then things like the London riots would not happen. The answer is right in everyone’s faces, yet they are blinded to the truth. Blue-pillers and most women have sight, but no vision. Things will not get better until the overwhelming majority of people start caring about men.

    I won’t be holding my breath……………………

  • http://mens-rights.blogspot.com/ Tom Snark

    “she’s clinging desperately to a dishonest and obsolete view in which people riot not because they’re marginalized, brutalized by an increasing police state, and disenfranchised; no, they’re just “bad people”. What an idiot.”

    Take it from somebody who’s actually in the UK and on a daily basis witnesses the kind of ‘culture’ that created these riots:

    The people rioting are not brutalised, oppressed, victimised, impoverished, or anything else along those lines.

    They have been given every opportunity to improve. Vast amounts of public resources have been directed towards the people and communities in the very places that first set fire. These people don’t WANT to improve. They want to remain as a parasitic welfare underclass.

    The most sickening commentary is that this is an ‘uprising of the workers’ – but it’s the working class, people and families on the breadline, who have suffered here, who have had their homes burned down and looted, small family businesses that have been literally eviscerated.

    This is an uprising of inner city wannabe gangstas who quite literally “don’t give a fuck, yo.” It was an opportunity to get some free trainers and plasma TVs. This wasn’t about stealing bread to feed their starving children. Far fucking from it.

    It’s crime. And that is ALL it is.

    It’s fine to pontificate from across the Atlantic; indeed, coming from foreign shores, from people who haven’t had to actually deal with this, I have read comparisons to youth uprisings in Egypt etc.

    Because demonstrating for democracy, against a brutal police state, is EXACTLY the same as burning working people’s livelihoods and stealing trainers so you can look cool to your scummy buddies while the cops stand around doing nothing (thankyou Home Secretary Theresa May) for the first three nights.

    These people ARE bad. This is NOT a legitimate uprising. This has nothing to do with impoverishment or ‘oppression’ and everything to do with mindless violence and destruction.

    Take it from someone who is actually here and has to deal with this crap.

    Or get over here yourself and go stand in the middle of London or Manchester next time it happens, witness the thugs attacking children’s hospitals and ambulances that are trying to get injured people somewhere safe, and then tell me that “these aren’t bad people,” they’re “just marginalised,” and other crap from Social Work 101.

    Until then, fuck you. You have no idea what this is actually like. You can have all the theories in the world and it won’t make a damn bit of difference to what actually happened on the ground here.

    The people who actually might need some help WERE NOT OUT LOOTING earlier this week.

    And might I add that, alongside the welfare underclass, were a number of upper-middle class grammar school kids, getting in on the action of smashing up family businesses and working people’s homes.

    When you’ve experienced something like this, you’ll gladly trade in a little freedom for security. Until then, STFU. You have no idea.

    • http://www.mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/ Masculist Man

      And might I add that, alongside the welfare underclass, were a number of upper-middle class grammar school kids, getting in on the action of smashing up family businesses and working people’s homes.

      When you’ve experienced something like this, you’ll gladly trade in a little freedom for security. Until then, STFU. You have no idea.

      Sounds like Brittain needs to scrap those gun control laws.

  • AntZ

    Good analysis Dexter. There is an article on The Spearhead that is highly critical of the demonstrators/rioters, suggesting that “the army should have been sent in to wipe out the scum.” A woman, feeling “unsafe”, condoning mass murder. I let her know my mind.

    Although Petra’s article is revolting, I am not about to celebrate these events as “demonstrations.” Evidence suggests that the participants consist of a limited number of legitimate demonstraters mixed in with many self-serving rioters intent on looting.

    I believe that this event is peripheral to the MRM message. British men certainly have EVERY RIGHT to burn their nation to the ground, in response to the persistent British campaign of feminist man-hate. However, there are too few demonstrators and too many thugs for this message to be seen clearly.

    I would steer clear of this ice-berg. Just my opinion.

  • Merlin

    Hey Antz

    I live in the UK and it’s amazing that most times there is a critical tongue it’s usually a woman spouting off. It was amazing when it first kicked off because you had two women on Sky news debating it, and one decided it was just young men that were rioting…you know, that default mentality a woman has every time she sees a male scapegoat.

    Fortunately she was quickly corrected by the other woman that girls and women were also involved which kind of pissed on her fireworks. It’s not just youngsters who are disenfranchised…it’s also a large percentage of average working class people in this country. The government haven’t a clue how deep the rabbit hole goes in my opinion.

    They are already having debates trying to get ideas from the public who are on the whole extremely angry, and with total justification for being so. It’s OK for the privileged politicians who sit there on their fat salaries…as long as they are fine then just let the common man rot.

    • AntZ

      Merlin, I certainly sympathise with British men who are fed up with the hate, neglect, dehumanization, and disposession that their government routinely hands out to them. However, I believe that the MRM must stay on message. I say again, there are too many thugs mixed in with legitimate demonstrators for the British “riotstrations” to be a focus of the MRM. We would almost certainly be seen as supporting lawless violence.

      I am 100% certain that, if British politicians stopped using their tax payer funded offices to spread anti-man/anti-boy hate speech, there would be no “riotstrations”. This one small change, that would cost nothing, would be enough. Why? It is the constant attacks against male dignity and humanity that is pushing men and boys over the edge. Certainly, inhuman living conditions and economic stagnation are a stress factor. But, without the government sponsored hate, I am certain that men would bear their pain in silenced, as they always have done. It is the gratuitous hatred of men and boys, spread by their own government, that is robbing men of their last refuge: dignity.

      Without dignity, it is impossible to endure the unendurable.

      I believe there would be no riots in Britain today if David Cameron had NOT delivered his hate speech ON FATHERS DAY, in which, among other things, he called for fathers to be “looked at like drunk-drivers, people who are beyond the pale.” He called for harsh punishment for fathers who do not live with their families, while reaffirming the British practice of default custody to women, in the same foul hate-filled sexist speech.

      The anti-boy/anti-man hate of people like David Cameron is the driving force for the riots in Britain today. The economic pain has been endured by countless generations of men in the past. However, now men are asked to endure the unendurable while robbed of their dignity by gratuitous and needless government hate-speech. It is too much, and the nation is burning in response.

      Predictable. However, the watters are too muddy for the MRM to wade in. In my opinion.

      • Merlin

        Well you have made some good points based on your personal observations and on the whole I agree. Certainly there were opportunists amongst the genuine demonstrators, but regardless, it’s all related.

        I don’t think the MRM should turn away from this and suggest it’s too hot to handle though. Although I don’t believe some notable names are. Certainly the likes of Angry Harry is supportive along with Manwomanmyth. That in itself tells me all need to know…and that’s not forgetting AVFM who also have covered this important issue.

        • Jimmy

          Harry’s viewpoint seems to be that these riots are the result of the policies of the left coming to fruition, whereas posting this video seems to be suggesting that the riots are a conscious and justified protest against government policy.
          My opinion is more closely aligned with Harry’s and that expressed on The Spearhead that this the end result of policy, rather than a protest against it.

          Also, does the retard in the video think he can take the moral highground by calling himself a negro? Weird.

          • Paul Elam

            I am curious as to the either/or position that you seem to be taking.

            It seems to me that there must be multiple reasons for spontaneous outbreaks like this, and that it would be impossible to track it to one source. Certainly, the ouster of fathers plays a role in young people who act out with little or no restraint. That supports the idea that leftist policies are to blame.

            But there is also poverty and disenfranchisement, some of which is attributable to leftists polices, and some of which is attributable to the monetary policies and scams run by both the left and the right – while we argue with each other over who should be elected to fuck us.

            Posting this video is only suggesting that there was clearly a counter viewpoint on the ground at the time, and that when he spoke the ill informed clone in the newsroom tried to quickly paint him as a violent protester.

            She wanted details on violent protesters but when he wanted to speak about the violence from police that he claimed to have witnessed, she did everything she could to shut him up.

            Just like there is likely multiple reasons for the riots, there is also an equally complicated and obfuscated load of crap about it from the MSM and from the political elites.

            People can believe what they want, but I assert there is a lot more between the lines in this story than can be defined with words like “left” or “right,” or “retard” for that matter.

          • keyster

            “Just like there is likely multiple reasons for the riots, there is also an equally complicated and obfuscated load of crap about it from the MSM and from the political elites.”

            The interviewer was as if straight out of TV journalism school. News media bias is so blatant that she didn’t get the memo your suppossed to not be so obvious about it.

            I will say, had my father ever got wind of the fact I took place in anything like that, I’d have wished the police arrested me for for my own safety.