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The new N-word

Update: This classic essay, read by its author, was flagged as “Hate Speech” on YouTube within hours of it being uploaded. A revised version of that video noting the censorship effort has been uploaded, and those who wish to fight the censors who marked this as “hate speech” are encouraged to mirror it. Here it is:

–Dean Esmay

There was a time in the history of my country, when an entire demographic group was regularly pushed aside and disregarded – legally and socially. That group had some but not all of the rights that were granted to the rest of society and the rights they did have were ignored and denied with shocking regularity. Each member of the lower class was socially valued by how well they were liked and how useful the were to their superiors, the privileged class.

Members of the lower class were best advised to mind their manners around their betters. It was best not to say things their superiors wouldn’t like and in some cases it was advisable to avoid looking directly at them.

The lower class of people were expected to accept their treatment and some of them seemed to. It seems odd that anyone would accept their systemic mistreatment and abuse, but who could blame them, it was the safest thing to do. Those who fell in line and did their part to keep the superiors happy suffered less abuse than those who did not. It was easier to keep your head down and if asked a question or spoken to, it was safest to smile and say whatever the superior wanted to hear.

As is the case with any oppressed people the lower class became angry. Some of the lower class people became disobedient. They had the very laughable goal of equality. Those of the lower class who complained were troublemakers. Any member of the privileged class who supported those troublemakers were traitors.

There were words the upper class used to keep those lower beings in line, and check those who’d forgotten their place. One of these words seemed more effective than the others.

Nigger.

That was what they were, after all.

Niggers weren’t the same as human beings. They were legally and socially less than the privileged class. Niggers could be harmed and the police probably wouldn’t help them. Niggers were subject to vigilante justice.

I don’t know if it happened on a conscious level but I do not doubt that when a nigger was reminded that he was in fact a nigger, he realized he had stepped out of bounds and if a privileged citizen decided to punish him, there would be no help for him. That little reminder must have done wonders to shut an uppity nigger up.

The word was used so often that, it seems, it lost its effectiveness. Niggers learned to ignore the word, it didn’t hurt as much and sometimes it simply made them angry. The magic was gone and it was just another word, like stupid, or ugly.

In that time of social unrest there was a member of that lower class named Melvin B. Tolson. If you don’t know who that is, look up the ‘Forensic Society Debaters of Wiley College’ and you will learn that he was a troublemaker who dared to think that lower class people should be allowed to hold civil debate with the privileged class.

It was a rather unpopular idea which met great opposition. However when he did succeed in arranging for the oppressed to debate their superiors, the lower class people won. Looking back that is not surprising, the lower class were morally correct. What I find most interesting about their victory is the amount of struggle it took for the matter to reach debate.

The privileged class seemed to believe that the lower class were just dumb niggers, but I believe that was an excuse. I think that the privileged people knew that the societal norms were wrong and that everyone would realize it if the lower class people were ever allowed to show their intelligence. If the lower class showed the public that they were not dumb and dangerous, the injustices against them would be unnecessary and cruel.

It would be revealed that the privileged upper class were the ignorant, dangerous fools.

The opposition to a simple debate came from a fear of exposure.

You may believe that such societal norms and treatment are a thing of the past. That sort of thing could never go unchallenged today. People are more enlightened now… Right?

But I see it.

I see an entire class of people who can be harmed by a member of a privileged class and there is no help for them. They can be legally abused and everyone looks the other way. There are those members of the lower class who try to make themselves as useful to their superiors as possible or keep their heads down unless spoken to and then he’d better say what ever pleases his superior, that is the safest way to behave.

I hear the privileged use a few words to try and keep the troublemakers in line. One seems to be a particular favorite.

Misogynist.

Misogynists aren’t the same as other human beings. You don’t have to listen to anything a misogynist says. They aren’t allowed the same rights as everyone else. Debate with the superiors? Pfft, what for? They are just a bunch of angry misogynists after all.

Don’t talk to me because you hate women…Nigger.

Their misogynistic posters got torn down? Serves the niggers right!

Debate? No, they are dangerous nig- oops, I mean, misogynists.

Of course this refusal and opposition to the very idea of debate has NOTHING at all to do with the knowledge that the people they call misogynists really do have something to complain about. This opposition isn’t fear this time… right? It’s legitimate concern that the people you so flagrantly antagonize, openly taunt and yet who have done nothing at all to harm you, will suddenly go ape-shit and assault a helpless innocent member of the privileged class.

It’s okay to wave weapons at them, because they’re misogynists.

Its okay to silence them. They are just misogynists.

It’s totally cool to disregard them cause you know… they’re misogynists, and everyone knows it.

You don’t have to treat the misogynists like human beings, so it isn’t bigotry. Everyone knows misogynists don’t get rights.

I can only hope that using this word to silence and shame someone you disagree with someday reaches the same public regard as coming right out and calling your opponent “nigger.”

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Natasha is a blogger, vlogger, recreational bellydancer, a reader, rather tall and most recently a traitor to her gender. She is also a mother who understands that someday her son, who is presently a toddler will grow up, and have to survive in this world

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  • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

    Haven’t heard from Miss ND in forever. I mirrored this vid & text for her on my old blog. Wonder what she’s up to?

    • scatmaster

      The Evil Overlord Elam has her locked away making sammiches.

      • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

        The Evil Overlord Elam has her locked away making sammiches.

        Ha! hahahahaha! No comment…. :)

      • http://gloriusbastard.com/ JJ

        If her sammich making ability mirrors her writing skill, I bet she makes a meannnnn sammich. And she’s cute too. ;) Oh the patriarchal things we do to such terribly misogynist women! By misogynist, I mean hawt.

        Discalimer: Of course I’m kidding when I say hawt, because I am a man (read misogynist) and therefore I could not possibly find a woman with wit attractive. so obviously, after she writes/speaks so kindly on out behalf, we were obviously only admiring her dipthongs. This so the terrible Lord of Patriarchy (PE) does not shame me and take away my merit badge of patriarchy and evil thoughts upon the wymmins. Oh heaven forbid, I mean hel..I mean….owhatdahell, I’m confused again. Sexy women of a dark color, who can actually think critically and so logically with compassion for men get this sailor all confused. Not to mention hot under the collar.

  • Nostradormouse

    “Word up, my misogynists.”

    It has a kind of ring to it.

    • nick

      Misogynist please. Take the power back.

      • Nostradormouse

        OK. How about “Word up my Dyslexic.”?

        • Nostradormouse

          In the interest of self-referential consistency, that should read “Word pu, my Dyslexic.”

        • http://www.imnotamensrightsactivistbut.wordpress.com Isaac T. Quill

          “Wurd Op” is possible aslo.

          • Nostradormouse

            Or “Wired up, my Electronic Engineer”.

    • Super Ginrai

      While we’re at it we should take Dudebro back too.

      • Nostradormouse

        No good.

        I tried to take Dudebro back, but the Returns Policy said I had to have the receipt.

  • Peadair

    Thanks Dean. That was awesome. ND needs more net points. +1

    • numbCruncher

      Yes, a very effective example of noun replacement therapy.

      Around about the same time people were using the word “Nigger” to try to keep a minority in check, some Germans were doing a similar thing with the word “Jew”.

  • Duke

    Many of the gender-feminist groups on college campuses around the US are in fact the whitest groups on campus, but they will parade a black girl in front of the cameras for a photo op.

    • Duke

      The most racially diverse groups on campus are the sports teams…Maybe that why the white gender-feminist community don’t like sports teams???

      • Jacket

        No, they LOVE the male sports teams. See Arian Foster’s new baby mama that’ll soon be seeing $15k+/month (ok, I’m just guessing, but let’s be real) in “child” support payments. Never mind that it doesn’t take that kind of money to raise a single child in ANY country.

        • numbCruncher

          A very good point. According to:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_raising_a_child

          “$4,020 is the basic cost of raising each child per year as estimated by the Department of Health and Human Services for 2013″

          In our enlightened age, as both parents are undoubtedly making equal financial contributions, this should mean the average man’s child support payments in the USA is $2,010 per year. However, according to

          http://singleparents.about.com/od/statebystateresources/p/child_support_statistics.htm

          “The average amount of child support due was $5,960 per year”

          That’s an interesting little discrepancy of $3950 left to spend on jewellery, feminist literature, NOW donations etc. Over 18 years, not accounting for inflation, each man paying child support is subsidising feminism to the tune of $71,100.

          • tom b

            Can anyone tell me where (if there is such a thing) I could find the formulas that are used to determine child support? Or is it simply “take him for what ever he has?”

          • johncullison

            Every state has its own laws. Google it for your state. “Child support formula Washington”, for example.

    • http://www.imnotamensrightsactivistbut.wordpress.com Isaac T. Quill

      Duke – as a Euro Human Rights Nut looking at the US, the one thing that has amazed me is The Racism – the Level of Racism – The Pervasiveness Of Racism – in US Feminism.

      The racism has been there from the start, as illustrated by Loretta Ross and “The Origin of the phrase “Women of Color”” …it’s been there since the third wave got surfing, and even got funded by president Jimmy Carter. NOW have been racist from Day One, and so Privileged they couldn’t even see heir own racism, even when it was pointed out in 1977 they have continued to be racist and not speak out against racism for nearly 40 years.

      W.A.S.P. – “White, Angry, Superior and Proud Of It” really does not go far enough in illuminating the darkness at the heart of so many US Feministas. They are so “Racopathic” in their thinking and language adding and “ist” just does not clarify their aberrations.

      I was so happy when Mikki Kendall took down so many Blogging Cyber White Feminist with her #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen campaign. The likes of Valenti, Filipovic, Marcotte and others have been quieter and far more careful since their petards were used to hoist um up high, leaving their knickers flapping in the wind.

  • damnmemoriae

    This article is so explicitly insane it’s hard for me to find the words to respond to absolutely obscene premise of this rhetorical argument. I can not even begin to comprehend how any rational and reasonable person can equate a word that has been used to systematically degrade and express outright hatred an bigotry to a term which is missappropriated to address men with in rhetorical and semantic arena.
    First off you start your mimetic, and frankly base “noun therapy” as someone put it, by not only mischatacterizing the term, but completely ignoring the historical cultural and racial origins of the term. The N-word is not something that was reserved for the “lower class,” it was a term that was reserved specifically to address, with great prejudice and malice, a very particular group of people – black slaves and Americans. This is not a debatable term, it is unmistakable in not only it’s origins but it’s use. The same goes for terms like mick, jap, chinc, wetback, redneck, and any number of other hate-filled addressors.

    Being called a misogynist in no way shape or form has the same level of historical hate, violence and pain attached with it. In no way does being called a misogynost conjure historical parallels and painful visions of being physically whipped beaten castigated lynched burned and tormented.

    If you want to elevate the conversation beyond rhetorical name calling, and take away the ammunition of those that would like to label you unfairly as a mysoginist, then you should maybe abandon this obscene self victimization and stop trying to equate being a man in modern society with a race of people that were historically dominated and subjugated through the use of extreme brutality and oppression. In other words stop acting like mysoginist and start acting like a man.

    • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

      The USE of “misogynist” is def done that way, so is the terms “cis,” “cisgendred,” “cis-het,” etc. It’s a ploy to shut someone up who’s explaining his or her painful life situation by encasing them in this imagined sitz em leben of privilege that may not fairly represent their lives at all.

      Who has the privilege, the white man with the job in a coal mine, or the woman with no job, but 4 kids each from different fathers who’s milking the state (and eventually the fathers) for child support?

      Don’t take too long in figuring that one out.

      • damnmemoriae

        let me make myself clear when i say this, and i do so with great certainty…never have i heard someone shout and berate a person calling them “misogynist” while a group of bigots summarily beat them to death or string them up by their necks from a tree and light them on fire.

        yes being unfairly labeled as misogynist or cis-het or cis-gendered or “cis-whatever” is unfair, but it pales in comparison to the type of hate speech and physical violence that people of color have experienced for a long. LONG time.

        But misogynist is a word, a rhetorical device used by people who want insulate their conversation through exclusion of differing opinions…it is not a term that has ever been used with such brutality and physical and psychological violence and will likely never have that level of hate attached to it that the n-word does…it doesn’t take long to figure that out.

        • tom b

          “Being called a misogynist in no way shape or form has the same level of historical hate, violence and pain attached with it. In no way does being called a misogynost conjure historical parallels and painful visions of being physically whipped beaten castigated lynched burned and tormented.”

          Recognizing there is no quality of good for either, what’s worse in your view? Being berated and beaten or psychologically destroyed through brain washing? I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but the reality is that men, because of their gender, are now seen as inferior in our society. Or should I say women are seen as superior. Either way, men are screwed.

          What I find more difficult is that at least blacks knew what was happening and knew it was wrong and did something about it. But when you look at many men today, they are totally oblivious to what’s happening. As with the white slave owner who took care of his slaves, letting them believe that life is good, Today’s society and more specifically the progressive “caring” feminists, are leading men to believe that they “care” and are watching out for them.

          damnmemoriae – Curious, do you have the same view when the gay rights movement used a similar analogy?

    • Fredrik

      @damnmemoriae: “If you want to elevate the conversation beyond rhetorical name calling, and take away the ammunition of those that would like to label you unfairly as a mysoginist, then you should maybe abandon this obscene self victimization and stop trying to equate being a man in modern society with a race of people that were historically dominated and subjugated through the use of extreme brutality and oppression. In other words stop acting like mysoginist and start acting like a man.”

      You seem confused. This video of the author is from 16 months ago, but I’m pretty sure that Nurdy Dancing is still a black woman after all that time.

      • damnmemoriae

        just because someone is black doesn’t excuse the misappropriation of a term as sensitive as the “n-word” especially when using it in the semantic comparison between such extremely disparate terms to make obnoxious rhetorical argument. This is quite possibly the most obscene conflation of two ideas that couldn’t be less alike and this type of nonsense should be seen as not only offense but absolutely contemptible by any reasonable and rational man, especially those seeking to create equality in not only discourse but in society at large. she doesn’t get a pass because she’s black especially when it involves something as painful as the n-word.

        • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

          Lots of ppl use the N word for lots of reasons, including Blacks. Just what makes you the language police?

          And I doubt you have a good idea of the injustice complaints of the MHRM for all they are, if that’s your position.

          • damnmemoriae

            and there is plenty of reasons to find the use of such a term as contemptible and wrong, especially when they are used in the black community. But what you fail to understand is that how the black community chooses to address that term and the subsequent is only the business of the black community, and because someone in the black community uses that word does in any way shape or form empower you, especially as a white male, to use or appropriate that term for semantic and rhetorical argument. And yes when dealing with issues that involve the advancement of equality specifically those that the MHRM movement seeks to establish because i am a part of that community it is my duty as a member of this movement to police the use of language and rhetorical debate that works against the stated goals of that movement..

          • OfficialPro

            the concept of “appropriation” is bullsh**, and you should be ashamed of yourself for ever listening to the insane nitwit that ever taught you so.

          • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

            Except you keep forgetting, it’s not a white male you are talking about #DERP

            And get off this “It’s my duty” bullshyt. It ain’t your duty to do nuthin’. Unless you got a nice list of credentials re what you’ve done for us that you’d like to share?

          • damnmemoriae

            Dude, I know she’s black….but just because she’s black doesn’t mean that it lends credibility to the inappropriate conflation of the two terms nor does it empower you as a white man to make such an absurd determination of whether it’s appropriate to do so based on the argument “lots of ppl use the N word for lots of reasons, even Black people”

            Seriously do your read what you are saying? Or are you just trolololing

          • OfficialPro

            an argument’s validity does NOT rest on the racial or melanocytic makeup of a person. If a black woman can make the argument, so can a white man, with equal validity. You obviously can’t logic and were never taught to, so go learn how. Feelings aren’t the same as logic.

          • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

            Actually, as an autonomous human being with free will, I can pretty much do & say what the fukk I want, “dude.”

            This is what you said:

            because someone in the black community uses that word does in any way shape or form empower you, especially as a white male, to use or appropriate that term for semantic and rhetorical argument.

            The only person appropriating the term has been the woman who made the video. No one else here has. It’s just you byatching & whining about it.

            Do you read what you write, or are you just a plain troll full stop?

            Fyi, you should do research before you come in here making any claims:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger#Etymology_and_history

            Among Anglophones, the word nigger was not always considered derogatory, because it then denoted “black-skinned”, a common Anglophone usage.[4] Nineteenth-century English (language) literature features usages of nigger without racist connotation, e.g. the Joseph Conrad novella The Nigger of the ‘Narcissus’ (1897). Moreover, Charles Dickens and Mark Twain created characters who used the word as contemporary usage. Twain, in the autobiographic book Life on the Mississippi (1883), used the term within quotes, indicating reported usage, but used the term “negro” when speaking in his own narrative persona.

            Go sit in the corner until teacher tells you to move.

        • Fredrik

          @damnmemoriae: “just because someone is black doesn’t excuse the misappropriation of a term as sensitive as the “n-word” especially when using it in the semantic comparison between such extremely disparate terms to make obnoxious rhetorical argument.”

          “Misogynist” and the n-word both end debate by reducing opponents to unpeople. That’s the article. Now demonstrate how it’s false.

          Don’t worry, I’m very reasonable. Just one example of how a guy was called a misogynist, and people still listened to him. That’s all it takes.

          • damnmemoriae

            i don’t dispute the argument, and the premise is valid, however in any debate you have to evaluate the appropriateness of a novel comparison within whatever topic of discourse you are engaged within,

            A good example of this type of inappropriate rhetorical framing is the frequent use of the “this to that” comparison of something to the holocaust, most recent example i can think of is the comparison by thomas perkins, a multimillion dollar venture capitalist, who likened the fictitious “war on the 1 percent” to nazi-germany anti-semitism, its a novel (and the only reason i use this word is because i have never heard anyone draw this parellel in my life) comparison that despite what ever argument he uses to justify it will always be inappropriate.

            the same thing stands to reason for the conflation of N****r and misogynist

          • Fredrik

            @damnmemoriae: That is one of the stupidest arguments that I have ever read. Because one comparison is invalid, another must be? Bullshit.

          • OfficialPro

            damnmemoriae was never taught how to logic.

          • damnmemoriae

            What about appropriateness alludes you?

            Seriously…do you think it’s appropriate to compare a term that is explicitly bigoted and violent in nature and unmistakable in it’s origins to something that has typically been associated with identifying men that are hateful towards women and is used to unfairly exclude people from a conversation by using it as a rhetorical device to invalidate a persons point of view…

            I have never ever heard a person ever so someone “that guy was totally justified in calling that guy a “n****r” “

          • Fredrik

            @damnmemoriae: “What about appropriateness alludes you?”

            Dude, you seriously need to work on making your meaning clearer in fewer words, because we could’ve saved ourselves a lot of trouble if I knew that this was all about “appropriateness”, which I don’t give a shit about.

            There is a racial hierarchy, and there is also a sex hierarchy. Black men suffer twice, once for being black, and once for being men. In reality, the new “nigger” is the old “nigger”, same as it always was. I don’t deny that.

            But sometimes, to get attention, you have to say controversial things that people don’t like, and I don’t like you. I don’t like how you dodge from one objection to another. I don’t like your latest twist, that now you think the difference between “nigger” and “misogynist” is that one can’t be justified.

            Did you think that was a winning play? Did you expect me to justify calling someone a “nigger”? You have it backwards, hoss. “Nigger” is *less* effective as a debate-ending label, because it’s always wrong to say. It is *less* useful than “misogynist” as a tool of suppressing discussion.

            Your last argument was so ineffective, I’m just going to assume this is over. Here’s my outro (NSFW).

        • OfficialPro

          uh no. Even under your OWN theory of Critical Race, a black person has the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to reclaim the n-word as she sees fit.

    • http://www.imnotamensrightsactivistbut.wordpress.com Isaac T. Quill

      Is “damnmemoriae” a spoof account?

      I’ve not seen such a dense use of jargon on a page in so long.

      It’s either a spoof (and so well done it out Poes Poe’s Law), else an over eager 1st year gender studies undergrad with way too much caffeine.

      • http://www.imnotamensrightsactivistbut.wordpress.com Isaac T. Quill

        Spotted this too – it seems to sum up so much

        http://t.co/GcwDxqMC3O

    • OfficialPro

      says the person peddling the ideologically and logically insane Identity Politics/Critical Race theory.

      How come when you were taught that Marxist Rotgut you didn’t IMMEDIATELY think, “Who wrote this s***, what were they smoking, and can I have some? This makes NO SENSE AT ALL.” ?

    • http://javier.gr Javier Gonel

      Interesting that the punch line is just a sexist comment “start acting like a man”.

  • Bombay

    Maybe we should be talking about the new Irish:

    “There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end it’s participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.

    But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.’

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

    The point being there always seems to be people that are disposable no matter what comparisons may or may not be made.

    • damnmemoriae

      irish chinese italian jews blacks, and frankly any new demographic of immigrant that has come to this country has been met with prejudice on some level or another…but as a matter of principle, never compare the suffering of one group of people to another or try to say that one persons oppression is greater than another’s. to do so marginalizes that group and creates inequity within the broader conversation of how to correct and level injustice and intolerance in our culture.

      • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

        never compare the suffering of one group of people to another or try to say that one persons oppression is greater than another’s. to do so marginalizes that group

        This flies in the face of everything else you’ve been saying. It’s all about “comparisons” for you. That’s why you are here.

      • http://www.imnotamensrightsactivistbut.wordpress.com Isaac T. Quill

        damnmemoriae – your lack of historical clarity is manifesting as hysteria. You have just dissed millions of Irish because you are so fundamentally ignorant of the history of others. You have also done the same with the Welsh and the Scots too.

        To to help you with your re-eduction away from the indoctrination you display, please consider “The Potatoe Famine” caused by poverty farming on marginal land with a mono-culture of Potatoes. There was no shortage of food – in fact Ireland exported more food that the population could eat – it was the landlords who killed so many they saw as slaves, by exporting food and leaving so many to starve or emigrate.

        Coffin Ships – they transported Millions to slavery on Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Caribbean, Argentina, Patagonia …

        Do you wish to talk of the Highland Clearances In Scotland – the Cheviot, the Stag and the Black Black Oil?

        How about the Welsh emigrations due to slavery and the South American connections?

        Do some homework and stop your hysteric dissing of Millions your Ignorance fails to encompass.

        • OfficialPro

          people like damnmemoriae don’t think they have to do their homework because ‘Irish had White Privilege therefore they weren’t really discriminated against or oppressed’.

      • plasmacutter

        I’m a jew, and I’m asking you to stop using my people as a prop in your crusade to shame others into silence.

        What “social justice warriors” like you are doing is a direct equivalent to the de-humanization efforts other despots use to turn their political opposition into “inhuman others” to be disregarded and trampled.

        If you want to debate on the merits of the analogy, the parallels vs the divergence, by all means do so, but do NOT use me or my people as a prop in your efforts to end debate through thought-stopping “that’s not politically correct” shaming tactics.

        • Phil McCracken

          My great-grand parents were from Poland and from what I understand ethnic Catholic Poles suffered greatly along with the Jewish Poles during WWII. My dad was a great fan of Polish jokes and never have I heard a single SJW condemn these jokes nor would I like to. Playing victim and silencing criticism of this “status” is pretty pathetic imo.

          • plasmacutter

            I agree with your general sentiment, and have to say it’s also a bone of contention in my family that I’m not firmly behind the zionist cause as a jew.
            This is why I’m taking such umbrage at unrelated people using jews as a club by which to bludgeon their opposition with the P.C. stick by “riding in to the rescue” and acting as if they speak for me or my family.

          • Phil McCracken

            My preliminary 23andMe results came in and it appears, according to them, that I have some near east originating haplo group dna. I find this sort of thing very interesting and not the least bit surprising. And neanderthal dna too. Can’t wait to get the full results.

        • johncullison

          Wow. “I’m a feminist, and I’m asking you to stop using feminists as a prop in your crusade to shame others into silence.”

          Your Jewishness isn’t sacred, dude. Check your (probably white, male) Jewish privilege.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      The Irish are stoic, nation-making Europeans. They have no DNA to offer the grievance industry.

  • JinnBottle

    “…because someone in the black community uses that word does [not??] in any way shape or form empower you, especially as a white male, to use or appropriate that term…”

    I’m assuming you meant “does *not* in any way shape or form…”

    But the phrase I’m *really* interested in is “especially as a white male”.

    Ok “white” I can understand, tho I don’t personally like it, as part of your argument.

    But “male”? Why “male” – as opposed to “white female”? They, I would think, come ahead of “white males” (sounds like you’re describing some albino variety of rabbit) in your value system of who is the Most Clueless demographic in America.

    …That is, if you are the actual MRA you claim to be.

    My point being, of course, that your own language makes me suspicious. I, personally, have never heard of you before, at least not by the online name you’re using here. That may not mean anything; but if it doesn’t, please set me straight: What makes you describe yourself as an MRA? I ask because we need to get on the same page with all this back & forth, and findout if it’s even worth it.

    • http://underthegoddess.blogspot.com/ Kevin Wayne

      Don’t hold your breath. 3 hours ago I asked him to tell us what he’s done for the MHRM that gives him such authority. Crickets chirping.

  • tom b

    A lot of discussion about the use of a word but little discussion as to the content of the article. Back in slavery days, children were taken away from their parents because they were seen as property. Slave owners had the right to do such things.We live in a society where it’s not much different in that children are taken away from their dads all the time and what’s worse is that we have a judicial system that orchestrates it. Don’t have to look to far past prison gates to see where these inferior beings, (men) are taken. The slaves had abolitionists, racism had the civil rights movement, women had suffrage/feminist movement and now VAWA. In the previously mentioned, there was a societal recognition that that there was a problem and movement(s) to change things. Yet with men, there is a total societal refusal to even recognize there is a problem for men. It’s interesting that I happen to read this article after reading about male suicide.

  • http://fathers4fairness.blogspot.ca/ fathers4fairness

    Wow – and that is just for the comments section!
    And thanks Fredrik for kicking @damnmemoriae’s a$$.

  • Camran Manikfan

    ‘Creep’ needs second place in the list.

  • Adam

    A white dude using the n-word like a bajillion times to argue that he’s oppressed. I don’t know what’s more rich, the disgustingly self-serving historical ignorance, or the sheer irony.

    • OfficialPro

      its not a white dude its a black woman. Lrn2rdplz

    • MrSonicAdvance

      “A white dude using the n-word like a bajillion times to argue that he’s
      oppressed. I don’t know what’s more rich, the disgustingly self-serving
      historical ignorance, or the sheer irony.”
      Really, Adam? Love how your prejudice against white men blinds you to all else.

    • plasmacutter

      What a self-serving post.

      Could you please tell me what “history” has to do with the white heterosexual men being vilified today?

      Can you explain to me why I, despite being a giving and entirely un-prejudiced person my entire life, I did not have access to the financial assistance opportunities much much wealthier black, hispanic, and female friends in college did due to my race?

      Can you explain why the white rural poor, despite outnumbering all other poor combined, receive the table scraps after the “politically correct” groups get their fill from the government trough?

      Can you now see why this article is relevant, and why every white rural state votes ruby red every time?

  • OfficialPro

    isn’t it so completely ironic that the New Privileged Class (Which Identity Politics and Critical Race Theory claim are ANYTHING BUT) are using the same tactics that the KKK-types were using a century ago?

    It’s ironic, but it is also completely on purpose. Marxist Claptrap works that way. It doesn’t seek to solve problems, it seeks to reverse the situations of the once-privileged class so that they get to “feel what oppression is like”. It’s all a wicked and very unhealthy revengey thing.

  • Alex Cockell

    Umm – I think I’ll just leave this here – http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/28bo4j/tw_real_life_tumblr_feminists_burning_a_book_that/?limit=500

    Hello Tumblr feminists, meet the moral event horizon.

  • johncullison

    And white women have the greatest privilege of all…

  • Marcos Eliziario

    What is most ironic, is that the blacks were frequently (were?) the victims of false rape accusations. If they dared talk louder to their masters, they were immediately labeled as “agressive” and “scaring”.
    History does repeat itself, it seems.