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University of Toronto fascists attack equal rights

Update: Please note that this notice is out of date, and CAFE has raised the extortion money. Now let’s hope they sue to get it back.–DE

Just when you think the Gender Ideologue hatemongers can’t get dirtier, they get dirtier. AVfM Contributing Editor Karen Straughan explains: the Miles Groth lecture sponsored by CAFE is under threat, and need help:

I can tell you that we are already planning not just how to get them the money but also how to challenge this in court on CAFE’s behalf. Fuck these people for pretending the issue is the advocates for men and boys, as opposed to the real problem: the violent thugs calling themselves feminists who barricade doors and try to stop a non-violent human rights movement that gives a shit about men and boys.

*Update*: More on the assault on CAFE right here.

Note: Please do NOT make donations to AVFM for CAFE. Kindly visit their website and provide assistance there. AVFM has no affiliation with CAFE and we cannot engage in any financial transactions with them. Thank you. PE

Update: Please note that this notice is out of date, and CAFE has raised the extortion money. Now let’s hope they sue to get it back.–DE

About Dean Esmay

AVfM Managing Editor Dean Esmay co-hosts AVfM Radio's Revelations with Erin Pizzey and Tales from the Infrared. He also writes about numerous topics on Dean's World and The Moderate Voice. He encourages people to look at issues through the lens of compassion for men who deserve it, and respect for women who deserve it. He is the author of the critically-acclaimed novel Methuselah's Daughter.

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  • GQuan

    It’s far past time that people stood up and made it clear that they won’t be tolerating feminism and its ignorance, malice and hypocrisy any longer. It’s far past time that this disgraceful ideology be openly opposed for what we all know it *is* rather than what its adherents believe they can sell it as by screaming over everyone else and trying to shut down any alternatives.

  • FrayedLace

    I hope the MHRM can get this U of T policy exposed in the media. The university is rewarding feminists for their violence and intimidation by charging the MHRM for freedom of assembly and speech.

    I think even the normal blue pill person can see how messed up that is.

  • http://menaregood.com Tom Golden

    This is hard to believe. Is there any precedent for this? Has a group ever been charged for such as this? I would bet not. This is a hate tax. Those who are peaceful must pay a tax to control those who are hateful. Absolutely bizarre.

    Typical for PC I suppose. You can’t say a bad word about feminism or its activists.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      „Is there any precedent for this? Has a group ever been charged for such as this?” – In Canada, I doubt there is – since Canada has little experience with agitators and overt totalitarian ideologues.

      But I could compile a huge list of precedents only from the city I reside in (Cluj Napoca, Romania) – not to mention from allover Europe – where legitimate and peaceful groups were charged more (or significantly more) after their opposition had trashed the place in previous instances.
      The latest occurrence that I am aware happened in Botoșani (far East in Romania) where a royalist organization (an organization that campaigns for the restoration of Monarchy – which used to be in place before Communism) was charged significantly more as a „preemptive measure” after some anarcho-communist organization („Tinerii Mânioși” – The Angry Youths) had trashed the venue in one of their „occupy” supposedly „anti-oppression” events.
      And these kinds of things have been happening for years – it is definitely not something new.

      „Typical for PC I suppose” – Indeed.

      • harrywoodape

        It doesn’t surprise me in the least that they would come up with a way to tell MRAs to buzz off. UofT like everything else “mainstream” in Western society, like every other public or private institution or beaurocracy that rules our lives these days has chosen to support radical feminist culture over men’s rights.
        I am thinking that this means war. Down with feminism and all opponents of the family. Let’s stop expecting courts or policies to be fair. It’s time to stop debating.

    • Porquemada

      Every law enforcement officer, weapon, police vehicle, jail, prison, courthouse, etc., in the western world is paid for by money demanded from law abiding taxpayers. The criminals never foot the bill.

      The quid pro quo in this situation is somewhat more direct and obvious than usual, but this “protection” model is ubiquitous.

      The added benefit for the powers that be is that if you refuse to pay, they get to (legally) Rochambeau you for it. So this is just the cost of doing business with the security apparat.


      “You can’t say a bad word about feminism or its activists.” Yup. Pretty much. But isn’t that why we’re here?

      To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”― Voltaire

    • T. Steinmetz

      I’ve heard of a similar thing happening in the States where a conservative group (College Repubs, I think) were charged for added security due to violent threats made by opponents. They took it to court and won- IIRC the court found it was an unconstitutional prior restraint on free speech. Now, that isn’t Canadian law, but I think the reasoning, if not the specific articles of legislation, may translate pretty well.

  • Aimee McGee

    Dean, can we have a link here to CAFE website to donate?

    • FrayedLace
      • http://www.avoiceformen.com August Løvenskiolds

        Thanks, FrayedLace – my $30 donation has been sent.

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      Thank you for asking that, link added to the article. GWW had to get that video up and I had to get that post up ASAP because we’re both crazy busy this afternoon, but as was said by Paul: THIS SHALL NOT STAND.

      • epoche

        What bothers me is that they appeared to have waited until the last minute to issue this edict? Until when do they have to pay?

  • http://strategicmisanthropy@blogspot.com S. Misanthrope

    The Objectivist Club at the University of Chicago was forced to provide not only security but also a “safe-room” with an on-site counselor at a panel discussion on the Mohammad cartoons that included displaying the cartoons themselves. I believe this was in response to objections from a few people on campus. At the event itself, not a protestor was to be found nor did anyone require the ridiculous “safe-room.”

    Raising the cost of speaking out is a long-standing tactic among all kinds of groups that oppose free speech, from the British crown against the Colonies to feminists against men to religions against non-believers. That the need for security is actually extant (unlike in the Chicago case) but so obviously manufactured by the opposition (again unlike in Chicago), though, makes this case particularly egregious.

    • FrayedLace

      For me, brings to mind the old poll taxes on blacks during the Jim Crow days.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      Wait… what? A „safe-room”?! Safe-room for what? What was the thing one needed safety from? A couple of cartoons displayed using a projector or a laptop?!

      Gosh… just when I thought the world cannot get more ridiculous.
      Someone please stop the planet for a moment – I need to get down.

      • http://strategicmisanthropy@blogspot.com S. Misanthrope

        Actually the cartoons were printed out on poster board. Maybe that makes them scarier- gives them physical substance. Yet no one was traumatized by the event.

        If you want to know how common this is, look up the school of interest on FIRE’s website. Here’s the page for U of C: http://thefire.org/spotlight/schools/466

  • gwallan

    Protection racket. Give us money or we’ll burn down your shop.

  • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

    This is not going to stand. We are not going to stand for it.

    • http://salientsight.com/ergot/ Limeywestlake (Neil Westlake)

      As they say up here in Canada, fuckeneh!

    • markis1

      yea SUE! pleease do

  • http://salientsight.com/ergot/ Limeywestlake (Neil Westlake)

    Let’s reach into our pockets, folks. This is a biggie.

  • http://salientsight.com/ergot/ Limeywestlake (Neil Westlake)
  • RamblinWreck

    Just threw $20 their way. I can sacrifice my Friday night beer money this week ;)

    Charge will show as “PAYPAL *CANADIANASS” *facepalm*

  • externalangst

    Donation to CAFE done

  • scarbo

    Donation made.

  • John Q Public

    Again, this will backfire on the motherfuckers. See how desperate they’re becoming? It’s pathetic.

    Intimidate our members? FUCK YOU

    Ban our posters? FUCK YOU

    Force us to pay for your fascism? FUCK YOU

    In short – FUCK YOU

  • http://www.genderratic.com/ Jim Doyle

    Some person made this decision to impose this fee. Sounds like it’s time for some name and shame.

    Blow this person’s name and actions right across the Canadian media. Barbara Kay might have some ideas on how to do that.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      I was thinking about the same thing.
      In these kinds of collectivist organizations (such as the U of T „naive” administration – as the polite people from CAFE are calling it – or the Student Union) these kinds of decisions are usually made by 2 or 3 people somewhere in a committee or by 1 person alone from very behind the front line. So when called out on their BS, the organization (ie the Student Union) can claim plausible deniability (because when everyone is in charge – nobody is in fact in charge).

      That is why outing the name of the person(s) that made this decision is (or at least should be) critical.
      This decision is not illegal per-se (correct me if I am wrong – the Canadian system is a mixture of American and European so it is easy to be wrong when going on gut feeling) – but I am sure as hell it is highly immoral and could be a PR mess if they are outed…

  • markis1

    donated. will post this on my FB wall

  • crydiego

    $25.00 done! I guess freedom of speech isn’t that free at U of T!

  • Victor Zen

    I’m donating right now.

    UoT feminists: Your tyranny will end.

  • http://theguidetounderstandingprejudice.wordpress.com/ Theaverageman

    This is outrageous.

    Feminists care about “equality” yet they don’t want anyone to have an opinion but their own.Equality use to mean legal rights and freedom from coercion for all individuals however feminists have redefined it to mean the dominance of one group(women) over another(men).

  • Imdefender

    When are we going to sue these fuckers ?

  • http://gynocentrism.com/2013/07/14/about/ Peter Wright (Tawil)

    This security fee is a classic example of ‘administrative discretion’ – feminists’ best friend within all administrative guidelines and laws. Administrative discretion is how the world achieved and now maintains the feminocracy… and is why all modern law makers place wiggle-room in the administrative guidelines pertaining to new laws, at the request of feminists.

    How I’d love to return to the good ol days when laws were unequivocal.

    $20 CA sent.

  • HieronymusBraintree

    Paltry buckos sent.

  • Kimski

    Donated $100 and completely prepared to raise that amount, if necessary.
    Take that and eat shit, UoT feminists.

    Edit: Btw, please change the headline to include ‘again’, Dean.

  • http://gynocentrism.com/2013/07/14/about/ Peter Wright (Tawil)

    The New Hegemony: CAFE Responds Against Student Union Oppression, Harassment, and Policy Breaking: http://equalitycanada.com/2013/04/02/full-statement-oppression/

  • pinetree

    Small donation sent to Café. Third one so far. Tight with money but this is too important.

  • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suzanne McCarley

    Donation sent.

    FTSU.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/MrShadowfax42 MrShadowfax42

    Donated.

  • Gordon Wadsworth

    This country just keeps getting screwier and screwier.

  • David Palmer

    Classic tactic-charge people whose views you don’t like in an effot to shut them up.

    Sadly, I nave have been very good at shutting up.

    Donation sent.

  • http://salientsight.com/ergot/ Limeywestlake (Neil Westlake)

    What a great bunch of folks we have here!

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/MrShadowfax42 MrShadowfax42

      That’s why we’ll win :)

  • jgr12

    $15 donated, all I can afford at the moment but very glad to contribute

  • Bombay

    Could I make my donation by buying an annual membership(s) for someone who will use it in Toronto? Hopefully, this would not only provide funds, but help a MRA(s) become more active. I could do three students ($20 each) or one non-student ($60).

  • RamblinWreck

    Can we get CAFE to have a tally running? Never mind, it might be better that they don’t so the donations keep pouring in.

  • Bombay

    This event is ““Caring About University Men: Why We Need Campus Men’s Centres in a Time of Crisis, with Miles Groth” . The actions to date clearly demonstrate why.

  • Roland3337

    Forget about how fascist and and probably criminal this is, for a moment, but WTF. Do these people really think that $900 odd bucks is enough to stop us? How damned stupid are they?

    • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suzanne McCarley

      Well for starters, they’re feminists, soooooo…

  • Fatherless

    $20 donated. FTSU!!!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DannyboyCdnMRA Dan Perrins

    It appears the administration at the University of Toronto would like me to pack up my tent and sleeping bag to camp out on their front lawn in protest of their violations under S 2, , 11(d), 15, and 28 of the Charter of Rights and freedoms.
    (freedom of association / assembly, innocent until proven guilty, equal benefit of law, no sexism)
    The Charter would be the sacro-sanct laws in Canada that the U of T admin is choosing to violate, and I as a good, ethical, Canadian can not in good conscience stand idly by while they violate those laws on Canadian soil.
    Dan Perrins

  • Theseus

    Sending $20. I wish it could be more, but this week is tight.

    Fuck you, you bigoted scumbag pieces of shit.

  • sammich heist

    Donated $120
    This is not just my kid’s future that’s at stakes but all of us.

    “Never forget” ?
    Ha! it hasn’t been a hundred years since the Nazis that the fascists are back in force and people just let it happen over and over. Unbelievable.

    Society needs a serious kick in the butt and though love is one thing fathers are the bests at.

    FTSU

  • chris3337

    This really pisses me off. The rad fems of U of T are going to hold a fourm in the near future on how feminism should organize against men’s groups on campuses. Who the hell do they think they are telling men that men should not organize to discuss their problems and that only they, the rad fems , should be the only discourse on the subject of men’s issues. Was’ nt feminism once about equality, free speech and liberty? These fascists need to be called out for who they really have become. CAFE got a $500 draft mailed this afternoon. I now will make all efforts to attend this talk.

  • RamblinWreck

    Ok, next question. What’s the ticket fee? Who can I sponsor?

  • RamblinWreck

    My prediction: Streisand Effect.

  • Andy Bob

    The decision to impose this fee will convince the University of Toronto feminists that the authorities to whom they appealed are on their side against the scary kitty-eating rape apologists known as MHRAs. Thus emboldened, they’ll be protesting in shrill spittle-spraying droves. Big Red is doubtlessly planning to unveil a vibrant do of a different hue at this very moment – she may even bling her bullhorn. I bet she’s excited.

    I suspect that the ‘authority’ who rubber-stamped this decision was some hapless man confronted by bosomy hysterics artfully sobbing of their fear of being harassed, doxxed, stalked – and, of course, raped – by Ms Straughan and her flying apes. “Sorry, girls,” he explained sympathetically, “It’s the best I can do”. It was done as an act of chivalry – and to shut them up and make them go away (especially the warbler in the lab coat).

    Is it possible that these feminists are such incorrigible cretins that they sincerely believe that a monetary condition will defeat the MHRM – momentarily hinder us perhaps, but defeat us? It will take more than spittle and tears to drown out the deafening roar of the voices for men that are surrounding them, and steadfastly moving in. This act of petty spite has made them look, well, petty and spiteful. It has the stench of pathetic desperation that bigots give off when cornered.

    Feminism is approaching the precipice overlooking its doom. I am happy to donate $50 to help push it off. Thank you to Karen Straughan and her fellow activists for their activism and their courage.

  • http://strategicmisanthropy@blogspot.com S. Misanthrope

    “Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist,” said Frederick Douglass on December 10, 1860 inside Boston’s Music Hall. “That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down. They know its power. Thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, founded in injustice and wrong, are sure to tremble, if men are allowed to reason… There can be no right of speech where any man…[is] compelled to suppress his honest sentiments. Equally clear is the right to hear. To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker.”

    Just thought we could all use a little inspiration right now :)

  • Kimski

    Not even the bankers of Wall Street had the audacity to demand a demonstration fee from the people they made homeless in the recent financial collapse.
    But for the money grabbing, “oppressed”, “feminism benefits men too” bigots, such a thing is apparently business as usual, as long as it silences the demographic they allegedly wants to be equal with.

    I’ll be looking forward to feminists being charged money, whenever they want to address their issues in public from now on. Not likely going to happen, but how’s that for equality for ya?

    Perhaps society should start demanding some of the money back, that has been used to forward these bigots education and issues for more than 50 years now. Money that has led to little more than women being constantly portrayed as perpetual victims and unable to fend for themselves. If all those billions in fundings were supposed to liberate women, feminism has failed miserably in it’s quest for equality.

    When will the average man on the street wake up to the fact that there’s someone out there who has him by the balls, and are leading him into another version of 1940-45?
    Someone who has been financed by the very same bankers from the start, in an attempt to strip him of his last remaining assets, as well as basic human rights?

    How much more proof will it take?
    Do we really have to reach the point were these bigots become engaged in politics as adults, and starts implementing the same policies in everyones lives that they’re now doing in the institutions of higher learning, with the very predictable outcome of real rapes, riots, and cities burning, when the backlash finally comes?

    And how long will it take before the average woman wakes up to the fact that every man portrayed as a rapist, violent thug, or oppressor of women, is some other womans father, brother, husband or son? And that by supporting feminism, she is effectively destroying the lives of her neighbors, co-workers, and friends?

    Sorry ’bout the rant.
    I just needed to get this off my chest.

    • Andy Bob

      Never apologize for your rants, Mr Kimski. They are always powerful in their truth and eloquence. Rant on, my friend.

      • Turbo

        Agree completely Mr AB, and the same can be said of your submissions.
        Rant on gentleman.

    • crydiego

      Many women and most men know that something stinks in the feminist camp but don’t want to rock the boat. Women are afraid of the backlash and many men are afraid to speak up in fear of divorce, social stigma, and damaged career. When men’s rights goes mainstream and people can hear what it is really about I expect a groundswell of support that will be totally unexpected by most. The feminist organizations have so far had the power to intimidate the press and paint the MRA movement as violent and dangerous.
      What the feminist don’t understand and have failed to grasp from the beginning is that men alone make up half the population. Where as most were on their side in the beginning, that is changing. As feminism has morphed into hate, censorship and control, more men are moving to our side everyday.
      The part that truly guaranties the success of men’s rights is the women that are in the struggle with us. Everyone should remember that with women as our equal partners in this campaign we speak with a voice that calls to everyone.
      Stay together and we survive, -if we survive we will grow, and if we grow we will win!
      When we win I want to erect a statue of GWW’s kitchen with all the Honey Badgers having tea! This should be located at the main entrance of the University of Toronto as a tribute to free speech.

  • napocapo69

    Just donated a few bucks.
    I strongly believe that they should not pay, but nevertheless let’s allow them to manage the event and then let’s give this stuff the right exposure.

    by the way this is not a security fee, but a speech fee

  • Aimee McGee

    Thanks guys for the link. Nicely favourable exchange rate, 3 months of beer money well spent (If I can’t drink it should be useful somewhere)

  • DavidicLineage

    To everyone making sacrifices to get the movement over this hurdle, I salute you. I’d be honored to count myself among you, but even making rent this month looks unlikely. Hopefully I can double down next time the call goes out.

  • http://www.CanadaCourtWatch.com Attila L. Vinczer

    I find it interesting that the Rally at Queen’s Park on September 28, 2013 at 11 am is going to be supported by the Legislative Security Service along with Toronto Police. The Toronto Police will then escort our protest along the streets of Toronto to ensure our safety and the safety of the public. There is no cost to us what so ever for this security and police detail as we hold a lawful peaceful rally and protest march.

    Why does U of T think they can extort money from CAFE? They are making a huge mistake with this as they will be vigorously challenged for such a draconian measure to impede an educational event.

  • snoochieboochies

    It’s a strange world we live in where everything has been turned on it’s head. 20 years ago i would have agreed with plenty of the feminists viewpoints. Now they sound like some extremeist group trying to suppress everyone elses freedoms and opinions.

    Fuck the feminists, they need a strong dose of reality and need to get off their high horses of portraying women as the endless victims of everything and anything shit in life. Guess what, life is shit! It sucks for both men and women at times but you can’t create equality by focussing solely on the problems of one sex whilst ignoring the other. MRA’s are more in touch with the real meaning of equality than any modern day feminist could ever dream of!

    • GQuan

      Feminism has always been about selfish gain for the women who affiliate with the movement. It has always, as its name reveals, been a vehicle for women’s gain and license without concern for anything else – not a movement for “equality”. They merely justify it as “equality” by promoting the false historical narrative of an oppressive male-favouring overclass and a degraded female underclass, allowing them to push the notion that they are correcting an imbalance with their advocacy. The fact that some of the things they demanded were once reasonable does not mean they themselves ever were; their worldview has always been based in tribalism and distorted reasoning, dependent on a mistruth – a dangerous and offensive mistruth, because their ideology depends upon blocking positive change for others.

      The amusing and frustrating thing is that throughout my schooling I ended up in arguments with certain teachers, etc, who insisted that I *was* a feminist. I was what feminists claim to be – someone interested in analysing gender roles and gendered assumptions/behaviours and with an eye to legal equality – but I could see right through the ideology and knew that, no, I was most definitely not that. I had considerable respect for a certain teacher, and he for me, but we never saw eye-to-eye on feminism – he was a complete indoctrinate, I was having none of it.

  • tallwheel

    Every penny of that security fee will be well-spent if even one law-breaking feminist gets arrested this time. Not getting my hopes up though.