This is a letter written for a personal friend of JtO. The man to whom this is written is presently entangled in what is turning out to be a nasty divorce. He is a decent, honest man who unfortunately has not yet taken what we call in the MRM world, “the red pill.” As the author of this piece I have replaced personal references with nonspecific place holders for two reasons; to protect the identity of my friend, and so that others still living in a blue pill reality may hopefully benefit from the story.
My friend, you are in deeper trouble than you realize. Even after the discussions we have had, you haven’t yet grasped just how totally fucked you are. First, however, I’m going to define a couple of terms . The preamble to this letter refers to you as a man living in blue pill reality, and you might wonder what in the world I’m talking about.
You are what active members of the Men’s Rights Movement call a “blue pill” man. This is a shorthand expression which refers to the greater majority of the western world – and reflects a view held by many MRAs (men’s rights activists) that the assumptions most people hold about the social reality of their culture are wrong. Not just wrong in the sense of error, but wrong in the sense that western culture operates along a set of deliberately misleading mythologies.
These mythologies are maintained and reinforced through modern media, including television, advertising, popular music, movies and literature. Almost everyone participating in the reinforcement of this cultural narrative is also wholly invested in the “truth” of this understanding of social reality – which is to say, broadcasters, musicians, artists, advertisers and everyone else contributing to the reinforcement of the mainstream understanding of our culture all believe they are telling the truth. It is the view of MRAs, including myself, that most people are substantially in error in this understanding.
You’re in the middle of a divorce, which is to say, you are in the middle of a fight for control over several important areas of your life.
- Your stewardship of your children’s futures
- Your past earnings
- Your present and future earnings
- Any property you own – including real estate, businesses, or other assets
- Responsibility to service a substantial debt that you may not have created
- Your freedom from imprisonment (no, I’m not kidding)
- Your physical health
- Your mental health
Any of these items could be stolen from you permanently, through the process of your current divorce. Your stewardship of your children’s futures, stolen from you. Your past and future earnings, stolen. Are you paying attention?
I’m sure you recognize that this would be a bad outcome – but you probably still think the destruction of your life is not overwhelmingly likely. This is why MRAs like me call guys like you Blue-pill’ers.
I’m sorry about that if it sounds condescending or offensive, it’s not a personal insult – however, you’re already at war, and you don’t have the luxury of a slow or gentle introduction to any of this. So let’s jump right in – what follows are a list of facts you may find uncomfortable, but which you must address as cold reality, almost immediately.
This doesn’t mean you should consign yourself to defeat – no. Simply that entering this fight with the assumption of victory is a very bad plan. You’re going to take a terrible beating, and it’s going to cost you more than you yet realize. However – if you go into this fight informed and armed – you should survive without losing everything in your life. Survival with a minimum of damage to your life is a good, practical goal.
She is not the woman you married. That lovely, wonderful woman you fell in love with is gone. The woman you’re fighting now might look like her, but that’s where it ends. She doesn’t love you, she doesn’t like you, and if she could get away with it, she’d run you over with a Challenger tank. She is playing to win, and so far, doing a better job of it than you.
She doesn’t love you, she doesn’t like you, and if she could get away with it, she’d run you over with a Challenger tank.
She is also attempting to provoke an emotional reaction from you. Any reaction you give her, she will use against you. If you get angry, she will use this as “evidence” that you abused her during the relationship. If you refuse to respond with emotion, she will fabricate a narrative in which you abused her through emotional isolation. She will tell these stories in court, and the court will believe her.
The. Court. Will. Believe. Her.
And not just the court. She’s going to poison all your mutual friends against you using the very same tactics. What’s that? She wouldn’t do that to you? Attention, Dumb-Ass: She’s already fabricated false charges of assault against you – and she wasn’t arrested for false accusation, was she?
She might also manufacture a story of your abuse of one of your children. The young one is pliable enough, 6 weeks away from Daddy and she barely knows who you are. How tough would it be to convince the child to fear you? And if she accuses you of rape, well then, you’re cooked, old son. The police will arrest you and perp walk you before any legal or evidentiary inquiry. And you’ll never see those kids again.
This probably all sounds pretty horrible, and only an amoral monster would do such things. I must be wrong, because your ex-wife might be rather difficult to deal with lately, but she’s surely not a monster.
Well, here’s the thing. We’re presently living in a culture in which women do not have accountability. For the past 50 years any time a woman misbehaves, commits a violent crime, acts like a wild maniac or a vindictive child – or otherwise does harm – our society fabricates an excuse. That is the red pill reality about which the blue pill world is largely in denial.
Normal women are the ones who cheer and giggle when the discussion turns to Lorena Bobbit or Katherine Becker severing their husbands’ penises.
The list of fabricated excuses our courts will generate is endless, and a long list of examples can be found with 10 minutes of skimming news headlines. One of those excuses will likely be the one that undoes your entire life.
Little girls in western societies are socialized without a strong sense of personal accountability. And “normal” women are the ones who cheer and giggle when the discussion turns to Lorena Bobbit or Katherine Becker severing their husbands’ penises. When it comes to getting what she wants at your expense, your lovely and charming wife will not be stopped by any ethical limits.
Now, you told me today you would be meeting her for a final, in-person lunch. For closure, or to say goodbye, or for a civil parting of the ways or some such, and I recommended in strong terms that this was a bad plan.
I understand that you’ve lawyered up in the last two weeks. Hasn’t your very expensive legal counsel told you to terminate personal contact with the woman who fabricated charges of assault against you? If he hasn’t told you that yet, ask him why not please. Then fire him.
You also told me that you had to conduct this meeting in person because it was the honorable thing to do. I hope you recognize the personal restraint I have exercised at this point in the discussion by not accusing you of intellectual defect.
My friend, you are fighting by Queensbury rules, like a civilized gentleman – except that your opponent is an MMA fighter, it’s a street fight in blood alley, there are 3 dozen interested bystanders with bats and knives, and they’re not on your side. And you want to be honorable? FUCK!
Please re-read the bulleted list at the beginning of this letter my friend – that is what’s at stake. Fuck your honor, you can’t afford it. You will win this only by surviving and prospering. Thank you for your forbearance, and your kind attention.
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Wow Mr Dexter.
I just read that in one swoop and I think the reason I daren’t not breathe as I did is because I felt like a little scared kid in a library.
I was sensing a gloomy and violent presence behind me itching to strike me if I interrupted a nasty fight.
Your mate has the truest friend in you whether he knows it now or not.
In time though he will.
I have a friend that I should send this to. He needs to read it.
Normal women are, indeed, the ones who laugh at Bobbit and Kathy Becker jokes. MOST women would DEFINITELY laugh about that. How sick and disturbing. But, of course, no one on campus cares because it was just men who got mutilated with no anesthetic. All the student organizations care about are The Vagina Monologues, The Clothesline Project, Walk A Mile In Her Heels, Take Back The Night, Date Rape, etc., etc. When I try to point out the hypocrisy in these programs, I just get called a misogynist by all the bewitched and spellbound fembots. How revolting.
Ben,
I assume from your comment you are attending college, right?
I hate going to college. Every day I am bombarded with man-hating rhetoric and “woe is me, I’m a woman” nonsense. These women could never last one day as a man in America. Women at college are given “special” status. They can do no wrong and are rewarded simply for having a vagina. Sometimes I get so angry that I have to walk out of class or else I am going to explode on some feminazi. I see posters everywhere on campus that give fraudulent statistics about sexual assault. When I pass a woman on a sidewalk on campus, I get the feeling she is looking for any excuse to pepper-spray or taser me. The college newspaper always has multiple sections dedicated to “women’s suffering.”
Don’t you get sick inside too by going to college and dealing with this garbage on a daily basis?
Robert,
I know exactly what you mean. I run in the evening when I get home from work. Usually I like to push the last half mile or so with an all-out sprint.
Just as I rounded the corner to get to my apartment complex’s entrance, I noticed a young woman also running on the sidewalk. When she heard me coming (all 230 lbs of me), she reached for her pepper spray, turned around, screamed, and then watched as I ran right by her. This is the state women are in today.
It is true. Men are having to live under a blizzard of female neurosis and act as if it is normal to do so.
I, for one, do. And as soon as I go back to mine I’m going to have quite a few words for the local feminist group there.
Robert full of rage,
Yeah. In college. And every single one of the women here are feminists. Every last one of them. All 9,000 of them. Nearly all of them are in sororities and some of the sororities require the girls to take women’s studies. They are indoctrinated to hate men. They run men off the sidewalk and into the grass, including professors, by walking two abreast. When they see a man coming they DO NOT MOVE OVER. PERIOD. One day, I just kept walking straight without moving over. We collided and it nearly knocked her down. But I didn’t want to walk through wet flower bed mulch with my new shoes. I stopped about one second before we collided and she ran into me and almost knocked herself down. I nearly got jumped when she exclaimed, “Watch it CREEP!”. A guy from class told me that he heard what happened and that she was pressing a sexual assault charge. She said that I touched her breasts. I didn’t believe him at first but somebody else told me that same thing. They knew the girl but did not give her my information. I don’t know if the cops were ever looking for me but I was terrified of going to jail for sexual assault. Now, I get off the sidewalk when women are coming. But, it is women who are oppressed, right?
@ben
Ben, that is sooo messed up man. I’m getting ready to head back to school in a few weeks and I am so not looking forward to the rad fem BS
That’s why I don’t give a flying fuck what happens to women. If they get raped,killed or whatever I don’t care and if I find it funny I’ll laugh right in their fucking faces.
They want to play hate then let’s play hate and scourch the fuck out of the earth.
Agreed , with Dr F. This is the only thing a true freind would tell a man like this who has not taken the red pill.
Hey Atlas I’ll tell you what.
Let’s say you have a really good mate you have known for donkey’s years and this bloke has cancer.
You have the cure in your breast pocket, yep one of those rosy coloured pills and all he has to do is scoff it and wash it down with a cold beer. If he does that then he’s going to be fine, – no more cancer.
Ok, now let’s also say that there’s a bunch of doctors and significant others hovering around and they are telling this mate of yours that there’s nothing wrong with him. They look at you with a stinky eye and want you to just shut your bloody mouth because you’re scaring him. I mean just look at him, see, he’s scared alrighty – proof !
Then they slowly turn their heads towards you and it sounds like the lid of a coffin opening.
They’re glaring at you now and you hear them say things to you like, “Hey, what’s the matter with you ? You trying to make trouble boy ? What’s the story with that pharmaceutical you got there ? What are you… some kind of a drug pusher with a long dark coat on a dank dock waiting for the sailors to come in ? Piss off weirdo dickhead. There’s nothing wrong here… you’re just looking for attention and we’re here to let him know that we’re on to you quick smart.”
Ok so you are on top of this in your mind but none the less you put all your mind in seeing that medicine going right on down your good mate’s throat. That’s your mission.
I tell you this Mr Atlas.
It’s you, me and all the rest of us here with the right knowing who lean out with a deep ache for something better for ourselves and for others always.
It’s our sense of vigilance that nips at us when we look for some rest, and it’s our sense of justice that has us starved that makes us feel, think and do as we do.
If it were possible for any of these things to change in us then I’ll suggest it just as possible for belligerent blue-pillarians to water ski on Mars.
We must never be side tracked or delayed for a moment when a brother is in dire trouble. Not ever.
When you help him, if he knows it or not, you absolutely help all of us.
If something can never change then I know it to be this.
Can someone PLEASE write some penis monologues?
“Can someone PLEASE write some penis monologues?”
God forbid!
Many young guys, caught in the fantasy of youthful romance, arrogantly believe they’re above any odds that they’ll wind up in the throes of an acrimonious, failed relationship. Like Icarus flying too close to the sun, many only realize their folly after they’re plummeting down, free-falling out of control, heading for a crash landing on the hard rocks of life.
The serene drug of female intimacy addles many a male brain (young and old) into a false sense of security, a false sense of reality.
Like a naive junky jabbing a spike into his vein and thinking he’s found heaven, horny men often misperceive both the fickleness of in flagrante delicto with their female amour, and the life shattering damage that can ensue from their female ex-partner’s power and control of sexual intimacy/sexual politics.
Reminds me of a friend I tried to get to see the light a year or so ago. I painted a bleak picture, even I thought I was pushing it a bit far with the gloom and doom. Well, she outdone even my expectations. He was all……no…..not her….we have alwasy had a respectfull rlationship blah blah blah. I told him she was being nice, lulling him into a false sence of security, and that she was going to strike and try to get the whole house, everything she could get…..max child support etc etc.
Well she did……she got the house, everything in it…..all the money out of their joint account……full custody……child support……he got to keep his superannuation account…..wooohooo……so he got to keep something that she didn’t put once cent into…..or contribute too in any way at all…..how generous. On top of all that…..she has taken his daughter to Thialand…….her home country……to live. He still has the child support ripped out of his wage before he gets it……along with his tax…….doesn’t even see his daughter anymore…….back to paying rent again……after paying off and owning his own home before he met her.
Most guys just don’t have any clue what the family courts are like….not a clue….and even less clue what women are like…..but I think the younger generation who has grown up all along with a pack of whining self entitled princesses getting it over them all their lives and has no memory of when women were different will be a different matter.
Pity this info wasn’t out there in 2001 when I got screwed over by the ex fat bitch. At least I can try and make sure my son’s know what the “Real world” is like. Love the site, keep up the good work.
Women are not privileged; Women are dictators.
Women never cease to disgust me. I don’t know what to say because this article said everything for me. I hope more men stop getting involved with women. Women only make a man’s life a living hell. I wish I never had to interact with a woman, much less see one. While I can not become involved with them on a personal level, I still have to deal with them in the workplace. Women have poisoned everything and everyone with whom they have come in contact. I view women the same way I view anthrax or mustard gas.
I wonder if they know how much I hate them?
They have no idea, and they don’t care either, as for each man who is disgusted at the prospect of getting into any sort of relationship with a woman, there’s dozens of men who’d die (and kill) for it.
So true and happening all around us. The MRM has had a few victory’s of late but we have just scratched the surface. There is clear indication that Paul’s “Man Bomb” prediction is beginning. London has not seen the level of rioting in 50 years and with massive unemployment being the underline theme we are witnessing male anger unfold on national televisions. I don’t take joy in this but it is what it is. I guess they thought men would happily sleep on the street thinking well, at least women have jobs. God forbid they are uncomfortable!! What the MRA knows is “Men built this”, and men can burn the whole fucking thing down!!
When men get angry enough they get violent.
When women get angry they ridicule and shame.
Each gender’s tools of control in use.
Yeah but women use ridicule and shame knowing it will eventually incite men into anger. Yes, I am saying that is the worse.
Ridicule and shame are psychological violence and women are becoming increasingly physically violent. That’s what happens when there are little to zero consequences for female perpetrated violence.
Only a small % of men are violent.
While acknowledging the legitimacy of every pitfall mentioned in the original column and the comments, I assert that it is not necessary to hate women or to avoid intimacy with them. Go in as an informed consumer, avoid having children, and for God’s sake, get laid!
I got clobbered with crushing child support 20 years ago and have only recently escaped it (Georgia has a charming law that ends child support at 18 unless the “child” has not graduated from high school, in which case it extends till age 20. Guess who didn’t graduate from high school till age 20?). My second wife, after a few years of marriage, announced that she was gay and had already taken a woman lover. But I’ve been with a wonderful woman for the past 13 years and would never choose a celibate life.
I have no illusions about how nasty women can be, but would no sooner forego the delights of womanly companionship than I would stop walking because I occasionally slip and fall.
“Go in as an informed consumer…”
Yes.
Kind of like reading the manual online first (PUA) or checking various forums to see what other people are saying (like here).
Just because pussy is a commodity doesn’t mean it isn’t a product worthy of pre-purchase research.
Handling women is like handling any hazardous material: It needs to be done, but a lot of precautions must be taken.
I got clobbered with crushing child support 20 years ago and have only recently escaped it (Georgia has a charming law that ends child support at 18 unless the “child” has not graduated from high school, in which case it extends till age 20. Guess who didn’t graduate from high school till age 20?). My second wife, after a few years of marriage, announced that she was gay and had already taken a woman lover. But I’ve been with a wonderful woman for the past 13 years and would never choose a celibate life.
If a woman hits you with a false rape accusation and you’re ass ends up in a prison cell you may not have a celibate life there either. If you give your sperm to a woman you are putting your life in her hands. No woman deserves that much power.
@Manuel Dexter
This is bang on the money! Can I have your permission to reproduce this in full on my blog with due credit and links back of course?
No problem
Here is another story to remind us to BOYCOTT MARRIAGE! As we all know, marriage in the Western World is a legal relationship that enslaves a man to a woman. I’d like to add this article to my blog with due credit and links back..
Otherwise astute men can’t see how they’ve been conditioned by their mothers, their teachers and the media to believe how pure and righteous all women are. The sacrosanct and pedestaled devine feminine. He WANTS to believe it’s all true.
Lacking equal physical strength, they’ve adopted a rather vicious psychological warfare tactic; exploiting men’s weakness (and love) of them. Keep nibbling away at his collective achilles heel.
Opening a blue pill man’s mind is like asking him to imagine what his mothers vagina must look like, or that she even has one. It’s too painful for him to penetrate that layer that’s been buillt up over years of indocrination into the cult femocracy.
You have to either drag him kicking and screaming down the rabbit hole or just let him eventually fall down on his own.
The hard truth is simply too dissapointing to bear. It shatters his entire belief system, his O/S crashes on every reboot.
A year or two from now he’ll be saying, “You know you were right about her Manuel. I wish I would have listened to what you were trying to tell me. Why didn’t you just slap me?”
“Otherwise astute men can’t see how they’ve been conditioned by their mothers, their teachers and the media to believe how pure and righteous all women are. ” As a result, people also can’t see where the real “misogyny” is; women are righteous, blameless, superior, morally pure and defenseless and vulnerable. Most men would be insulted if they got this rap. By all of it. Most.
Otherwise astute men can’t see how they’ve been conditioned by their mothers, their teachers and the media to believe how pure and righteous all women are. The sacrosanct and pedestaled devine feminine. He WANTS to believe it’s all true.
Been there done that and I got the scars to prove it.
The hard truth is simply too dissapointing to bear. It shatters his entire belief system, his O/S crashes on every reboot.
That’s when the epithiny happens.
Good article. We need more to hammer it home: Modern marriage in the USA is a financial death-trap for men. At any point in time, your wife, should she take a dislike to you or her heart goes to another, has the legal tools at her disposal to utterly fucking destroy your life.
I could easily devote my life to the welfare of a good woman, but modern marriage is catnip to the worst form of female. A woman tells me she wants to be married, I fucking walk. Immediately. And fast!
Good article Manuel, btw. You know I think this is as good of place as any to put this. I just recently posted this on a YT vid. One where this guy was ridiculing the MRM by focusing on this MRA’s assesment of the Disney movie Lady and the Tramp. Watched 2 minutes, stopped. Said the same thing you have heard me say before. I was born in ’71. Height of feminism. I didn’t see male-domination. At all. I did see my gender being attacked for “years of patriarchy”. Even from my Mom. A feminist. I don’t even defend the MRM with facts refuting the myth of female opression. Glad others have, great education for me. I simply do not want to apologize for being male. And I will not have my gender being attacked. Don’t care if there WAS patriarchy once. There damn sure isn’t any now. And I wasn’t part of it nor any man I know. Not anti-female, I am pro-male.
Kind of a new motto; Don’t care WHAT happened in the past, I love my gender..fuck you.
I can’t get my dad to believe me when I tell him that divorce courts are unfair and biased against males. Nearly all of his friends are divorced men. All of them were paying child support and some were even paying alimony. He says that the system isn’t broken because these men were only paying a small fraction of their paychecks in child support, which was a bargain, really. He says that in a divorce, the assets are neither the man’s nor the woman’s, they are marital assets and the judge divides the assets right down the middle. “What’s the problem with that?” he says. He said that men falsely believe that all the marital assets are theirs and whine when they lose half. He also says that if a man loses more or goes to jail for child support it is because he acted like an asshole, was in contempt of court, or had a long rap sheet and that MRAs don’t know what in the hell they are talking about. How do you argue with someone like that? He keeps saying that men are in complete control and that MRAs just secretly hate women and want even more control.
One more thing. He turns the TV to CSPAN when these discussions arise and says, “Look, son. White males run everything. Look how many white males are in Congress and the Senate. White men are firmly in control. We don’t need Men’s Rights Activists. What is the matter with you?” (Smiling when he says this). I point out Warren Farrels’ quote that power is not in who fills the seats of Congress, it is in who chooses who fills the seats of Congress. I tell him that those men are forced to pander to feminist groups and that women make up most of the voters and that these men first have to prove that they will tow the feminist line to make it in politics. He always says that this analysis is utter hogwash because the women don’t just want influence, they want to actually be in Congress, and they are a minority there. And if they had any real influence, we would be seeing mostly women in Congressional hearings. I cannot convince him. I swear, you can’t tell any of those people who were teenagers during Woodstock ANYTHING. He read Manuel Dexter’s story above and says that women get screwed over just as much and just as severely. I told him that men only get custody 9% of the time. Again, denial — He says that that’s because men are stupid, don’t get an attorney, and do that to themselves and that he has no sympathy for them.
No offense to you Ben, but your dad is a massive fool and you should just stop bothering with him.
Ben,
I know exactly what it’s like to have someone in your life you love dearly and be as you spoke of.
In fact, now I’m thinking this, I reckon that there’s a great swathe of us right here that are the same.
We are the same in that we talk “red sense” and hear only “blue nonsense” coming back.
Let me guess something else while I’m at it.
I’ll bet you anything that your old man is bright as bright can be and you almost feel as though you are behind two inches of perspex when you speak of the truth to him.
I’ll also bet that what makes it worse is that this guy, who has been a mainstay in your life and has been of good influence, says blue pill propaganda with heartfelt kindness without any ill will whatsoever.
In fact he says these things hoping that you’ll just get back on track and forget about this “politically extreme organisation bent on hating women.”
“It’s just a stage son”, he might say.
“I went through similar things myself when I was your age but I grew out of it as did my friends. There’s nothing wrong with expressing yourself differently for a while as we live in a place of free speech… but there will be a time when you’ll tire of it. We’re patient here your mum and I. Take your time.”
I’m of course paraphrasing but you know where I am with this, yes ?
Believe me on this please as I tell you I have this exact same set up with my mum, my dad, my oldest brother and my youngest brother. All of my family save one.
Thank bloody god I have my other brother who like me, is like you and all of us here.
I adore every single one in my family to bits as we are an unusually close family.
They are all bright, kind and have a very strong sense of social awareness that has them talking passionately about injustices of the world. Everything from politically displaced peoples, global warming, loopholes in the law that denigrates and promotes mass suffering and so on.
(My father votes for a party, that he knows has in their agenda, a workplace practice that will have his own wage lessened and he does so because he believes the other party is morally bereft.)
That’s just one example I thought might bring home what I want you to see as I know in this man, but… he just will not listen to me when it comes to the issues as to why we are here talking on this site.
I am related to no one who will listen to me or my brother at all, not ever. Not even for a second because they tell us to be quiet. They roll their eyes and think of an excuse to change the subject.
It drives us nuts and we have got to the stage where we have as emotional mitigation read up on cognitive dissonance and programming from very young and so forth. He and I are so damned bewildered by this wall of deafness we see in our family home. We just do not understand it and at times it almost seems a little creepy. (Like an axe hanging from cotton twine about to break I’m expecting any time for Rod Serling to poke his head around a door.)
I’m writing this to you (and all of us) so you might get some kind of relief in knowing that your isolation in this is actually an illusion in the way of it being a shared isolation by many here. That’s a paradox made true by our friend the internet.
I can’t speak for you personally and with a sureness, but I can tell you it does feel lonely and strange talking with a passion unshared to someone you love who cares about justice as much as you do.
Our best strategy might be to become emotionally flat when talking of the things we know with the idea of expecting the worst but hoping for the best.
I’m no expert on psychology or anything, and I could be talking out of my bum with the paragraph above, but that’s the only thing I can think of when dealing with this new life of mine.
Ben,I hope your father ends up:
1. In lock up.
2. Being Bubba’s girlfriend.
I don’t know firsthand but I hear a dick up your ass clears up your thinking real quick.
Masculist Man,
Why on earth would you hope Ben’s father to be incarcerated and sexually violated ?
Great article. Too many men don’t understand what is at stake in divorce and want to be the “nice guy.” In divorce, being the “nice guy” is equivalent to painting a bulls eye on your back.
Thanks for your work. I have suggested your articles to many of my male friends but they seem to be so stubborn. Men are often in denial and don’t want to believe that they are in danger at the hands of a woman and the court system. Men have no trouble going to battle against other men but we are socialized to protect women, even if the woman is attacking us.
Sting Chameleon — Well, he agrees with some of our points but he disputes that the feminists have any real power or that there exists a systematic element to the discrimination against men. He is furious over false rape claims. I don’t think he is a massive fool. I think he is in denial. He hates feminist lies, the slut culture, affirmative action for women, and all the feminist bullshit that I am dealing with in college right now (which is tiny compared to many, many men are enduring, I admit). I just wish I was more effective at convincing people. He is like most men that I have talked to about this. It is like, they get it, but they don’t. Most men are blue pill guys, who will swallow a red pill or two occasionally, but sort of linger in the middle of the road. Plus, the men who were born in 1947 – 1955, or so, were teenagers during the feminist movement. They just don’t want to believe that they were wrong. I just wish I could convince some of purple pillers. I think Manuel Dexter is going through the same thing with his friend who is getting divorced. I think the problem is that men are in denial, not necessarily fools. I do, as you suggest, quit bothering with people that are inconvincable but only when I feel that there is no hope.
That is advice all men need to take to heart, it is the truth.
They will strip you down, tar and feather you before
they set you on fire. Women take pleasure in ruining you.
My first wife died in childbirth leaving me to raise my child alone. I was told for the next two years my daughter needed a mother. I met and remarried, had another daughter thinking all was well. But guess what? She wasn’t, so off to court we went. With not one shred of truth or proof of wrong doing.
Starting in 2007,I have spent the last four years in court.
I lost my children one of which is mine biologically from my deceased wife, my house, my life.
After her false accusations beating her and my children among other things.I spent two years seeing my kids in supervised visitation, paying attorneys fees, and paying
child support on top of that she receives 1200.00 S/S from my deceased wife. She moved away and I now have to pay 50% of all travel three times a month just to have
access to my girls. So when they tell you to beware of whats
coming, believe them. It gets ugly quick. I can say that I finally
lucked out when she moved trying to start this over in another court,the judge so far has put a stop to the bleeding for now.
But you and I know she is far from finished with me.
I just hope I can hold on for 11 more years of this bliss.
Sorry if I made your eyes bleed, but It feels good to have
a place to vent and share and hopefully help others some way.
My attorney told me, “Forget the kids, you can’t win. I can take an additional $20,000 from you and fight for your kids but you will get nothing for it. I don’t need your money. Focus on saving yourself. Make her a reasonable offer and try to settle out of court.”
As hard as that was to hear, it was the most logical course of action. I respected his ethics. He wasn’t out to take my money; he was out to help me survive. A rare trait in attorneys, I know. (I went to every guy I knew that was divorced and asked them for an attorney reference. I knew that picking my attorney was going to be the most important decision I ever made.)
Don’t get me wrong. I got fucked by the system but I got through it on my terms. The damage is already done when you say, “I do.” Once you get hit with papers it’s all about risk mitigation and damage control. It becomes all about business and cutting a deal, as cold as that sounds.
Patrick this is a very important issue you have pointed out as most lawyers will take your money and wont help you,, if you have this lawyers number or anyone that`s willing to fight for a guy during a divorce these are rare and we need to know who they are and spend our money in their offices so that it breeds more like them not more lawyers that just want to grind another man up take his money and see him on his way down the road broken and broke….
Rog,
I actively give out his name to guys that I know are getting a divorce but not women.
Pat
Thanks to all who share their stories here.
Reading this stuff amazes me, and pisses me off.
More young men need to read these posts.
FWIW I am single and never married.
There were a few times that I thought about it, but something in each of the relationships was off, so I said no.
I have no regrets about that now, none at all.
My gut instinct saved me before I officially took the red pill and made sense of what happened.
I live in a neighborhood with mostly married couples / families and I know they consider me dysfunctional for being single.
Little comments, attitudes, the usual shaming tactics.
I wonder how many of the men realize that their entire life could be turned upside-down with a simple phone call?
Dr. F,
You are 100% correct, brother! Thank you. I have nothing to even add to what you have said. Humdinger! Talk to you on a later post.
Your whole article is spot on. But it was the part about responsibility that made me smile. After all these years it is finally great to hear someone acknowledge that part of the equation. As all women in this country are irresponsible, unaccountable retards. Not to be rude. But i believe the time has come to take the gloves off.
I have bent and bent and i don’t want to do it any longer. There way or the highway message leads to a never reachable oasis.
But what bothers me the most and i would like someone on here to address as it is the biggest problem i have with these monstrous women is…
Why are men giving into these fucking bitches? Why are men allowing this to happen? Why are our brothers selling us out for cutesy little smiles that go away two seconds later? What the fuck has happened to my fellow man? I feel as if i just arrived out of a time machine and discovered a wasteland.
As men we enforce these laws. Stop allowing women to control your movements against the rest of us for Christ sake!!!!!!!
That’s just one example I thought might bring home what I want you to see as I know in this man, but… he just will not listen to me when it comes to the issues as to why we are here talking on this site.
I am related to no one who will listen to me or my brother at all, not ever. Not even for a second because they tell us to be quiet. They roll their eyes and think of an excuse to change the subject.
Wait until the feminists get a hold of them and when they do you can have some fun. When they feel devastated feign being a blue piller. Tell them “you guys are right and now I see your point”. At this point they will realize their initial mistaken beliefs. When they complain about it say something like “can’t you guys get off it”? Now roll your eyes and walk away.
Why on earth would you hope Ben’s father to be incarcerated and sexually violated ?
Because I’m tired of reading about ignorant fools who choose to bury their heads in the ground like ostriches rather than face the truth. If you are an ignorant fool then I’ll treat you like the fucking fool you are with zero respect. No one respects a fool.
If you want someone to hold your hand go talk to a moderate like Glenn Sacks. I’m not a moderate I’m a militant. I’m not a MLK I’m a Malcolm X or Stokey Carmichael. I’m not a therapist I’m a soldier and as a soldier I fuck up feminists and break their things. I’m very good at it and love every moment I’m doing it. My chosen position is to fuck feminists up,over and out and I’ll continue to do so.