Of European nations, Sweden is the country arguably farthest along the path to Orwellian nightmare. Its the home of the swedish model for prostitution, where sale of sex as a service is legal, but purchase is not. It’s a country deep in the grip of overt, totalitarian radical feminist rule.
This is what a feminist looks like
If you don’t know by now, a group of as-yet unidentified Swedish women produced and posted a video on youtube[1] depicting the point-blank shooting murder of a man reading a newspaper. The shooting was staged with the cooperation of the portrayed victim using theatrical blood make-up. The women appeared to enact this fantasy in a state of ecstatic glee. The group of would-be murderous psychopaths identify themselves in the title of their video as SCUM having fun, taken from the title of a famous piece of hate literature by Valerie Solinas; the SCUM manifesto, Society for Cutting Up Men.
The portrayed murder is followed by the ecstatic giggling of a handful of other females, and an impromptu dance celebration. The woman who apparently shoots a newspaper-reading man appears to have an spontaneous orgasm following the killing. A minor discontinuity in the video shows where most of the orgasm was edited out. Killing a man for no apparent reason than his sex is nothing to hide from the public, but dampening your panties over it apparently is. The short video concludes with the text message “Do Your Part.”
While the murder is plainly staged, the sadistic glee has every appearance of being genuine. The plain endorsement of murder is also unambiguous.
That is why A Voice For Men is offering a bounty of 1000 dollars for the confirmed identity of one or more of the individuals in the video. We are asking for the full legal names, home addresses, places of employment, email addresses and contact phone numbers of the women and man who produced and starred in the video described above. We will pay 1000 dollars to any individual who provides and confirms this information, to be paid either directly to themselves or to a charity of their choice.
This is the second such reward offered for the identity of an individual, the first being a blogger advocating extralegal eugenic modification of men. This blogger has since been identified as the former lawyer and published author Pamela O’Shaughnessy. O’Shoughnessy and her followers no longer enjoy anonymity – and will be pursued by their own nefarious plans for the rest of their lives.
The group of swedish women advocating murder – and staging fantasies of murder in sadistic ecstasy will be publicly identified on this site and on Register-Her.com. Complete details of these individuals names, addresses, phone numbers, government identification numbers, drivers licences, and employers will be permanently published. It is the intent of the editors of A Voice For Men that these individuals be publicly and permanently identified.
Some individuals may criticize the intent to publish not only names, but also addresses, phone numbers, employers and other personal information – on the grounds that such exposure create a risk of retributive violence against individuals who openly advocate murder based on sex. It is the considered position of the editorial board of AVfM that any such risks are out-weighed by the ongoing hazard to the public of these individuals continuing to operate in anonymity. Open advocation of murder cannot be allowed in a civil society, without that society devolving into a culture of brutal violence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJjKJ-_d4YQ
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Addendum:
I have just UN-approved a comment which included the statement “People like this need to die.”
The author still has commenting privileges, however, calls for killing will result in the ban hammer without warning.
~JtO
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Roderick Roderick:
malcolm:
iimnotmrabut:
Peter Wright (Tawil):
aimeemcgee:
poester99:
They won’t be so tough when men shoot back.
I agree; these scumbags need to be publicly humiliated, their employers notified, their fathers notified, and have this follow them for the rest of their soon to be miserable lives.
I challenge them to come on over to my place. We’ll see how tough they are then. I’m serious too.
“They won’t be so tough when men shoot back.”
Watch out now. You’re talking about shooting at women.
And well, you know. . . that is technically violence against women.
So, you know what the feminists are gonna do with your statement, right?
Don’t care. A line has been crossed. I don’t need feminist permission to defend myself against rabid dogs.
Technically, they would be rabid “bitches”.
what about firing all over their faces, they seem to like that
No, that’s not “technically violence against women”, that would at best be assault, probably attempted murder.
Regardless, it’s anti-men’s movement rhetoric and on the level of Tiptree and co.
The female of species is more deadly than the mangyna, but not the Man.
For the filthy, there will be atonement. The only religion naive and ignorant enough to fail to recognize this reality of the natural world is the modern ‘progressive’ cult of feminism. Fail, zombie scum dripping harridans.
This must be a feminist agent provocateur that has been thumbed up by multiple other hostiles.
Agreed.
This is on my blog as well: http://mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/2011/11/identify-scum-members-and-get-paid.html
Their website is no longer online, but is viewable via the Internet Archive here – and there are names.
“Their website is no longer online, but is viewable via the Internet Archive here – and there are names.”
It is still posted on YouTube, and on my blog here:
http://counterfem.blogspot.com/2011/11/swedish-feminism-at-work.html
Translated Svenska-to-English:
“There is a need for someone who refuses to compromise. You can not be objective or neutral, the need for a counterweight, a mental liberation. “Because man is an imperfect woman he spends his whole life trying to complete himself, to try to become a woman.” Everything you thought before was a publicity stunt. Your life is based on a true story that actually is propaganda. Society for Cutting Up But can help you to expand the limits of your imagination, provoke a psychosis. The system destroyed the best from within, insidious. We need to get into the monster’s belly and cut it up from within. We’ve been through it all and is now ready for a new show, are you?
Solana operates with man’s history, makes sharp observations, draws everything to a head, and even longer to be able to dream about the future of the world. Our belief is an intellectual experiment, and also an art. SCUM is an attack on our habits, our gender roles and the way we view the world. We make up our history to create our future. With high pulse, direct address and sharp humor conveyed the text uncompromising. A claim – a nice show – an attack. And a festive atmosphere will surround it.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20101101113503/http://bokascum.se/
Oh sure, I get it. They’re only a group of art students doing something hip and trendy. We all just need to lighten up and get a life….don’t we?
“Solana operates with man’s history, …” That is not a proper translation in this context, I have to say. The origin text, in swedish, says ‘driver med’ which means making fun of. Nevertheless, when you make fun of man’s history, it’s not trustworthy to implicit say that man has had an agenda to kill and eraze all men from the surface of the earth. The SCUM manifest is more an excuse for pushing radical feminism for the fun, rather than expressing a broader humanism. That manifest has long enough been a source of inspiration for women who likes the status of being untouchable while expressing hatred to men.
i would love to hunt down these women myself. It doesn’t matter if it was staged, that’s the closest thing to a real event of video taping psycho’s. take the logo SCUM and all the editing out and the result would be even more terrifying.
someone take down this organization before it gets to the U.S.
Whatever. I’m not so worried about that particular org coming to the USA. But I am keen to give worldwide exposure to this and similar things, and to make clear the revealingly symptomatic nature of it all.
X, my friend, it’s already here; it’s just waiting to be translated from the Swedish to the physical. What would you call the female audience of “The Talk” but killers and torturers waiting to happen? Fuck Sharon Osbourne, she’s just the vanguard of a college of Bacchanites waiting for for some naturally-drunk-with-psychosis selfstyled Dionysus like Charles Manson, to lead them (since they’re too cowardly, dull, lazy and undisciplined to initiate action themselves).
I advise all men to start carrying guns. Sweden has arrived, and she’s at a theatre – or school, or apartment or house – near you.
I would not “advise” them to do any such thing! And I would advise you to not “advise” them in that style of rhetoric, either.
Well, I knew a little while after posting this that I’d catch hell for it. Deserved it, in a way; I myself don’t and wouldn’t carry a gun. What can I say? I’m a man, and my impulses get the better of my writing at times.
JB, you’re right,it looks like this is becoming the case.
FB, usually we agree but I’ve got to part company on this one. You’ve got cunts that will become copycat killers after watching this video and the best way for a man to defend himself may be with firearm.
I took the comment in the context of carrying a gun for defense, not for offense. Millions of people carry guns for defense every day, and it is a strong deterrent to crime. Studies have shown that when more people start carrying guns, crime decreases.
BertieW – Thanx for taking the original comment that way, as a context of selfdefense (only) is exactly the way I meant it.
I should make a slight correction in my 2nd post on this thread: I should have phrased it, “I don’t and never have carried a gun; and I wouldn’t *except under the direst circumstances*”. Those circumstances being back-to-the-wall selfdefense, or clear and present need for defense of family. I basically believe that violence begets violence – but Mahatma Gandhi I am not.
I also hear and respect the argument some men would make that by the time you and yours are under “clear and present danger”, you can’t exactly purchase a gun. Furthermore, I would remind any purists that I live in the United States, where – as in, I believe, the other ” British Colonies”? – an adult has a constitutional right to legally purchase firearms: and that, no, I don’t construe the 2nd Amendment as meaning a fuckin “militia only”. Listen Lefties, that’s like saying the 1st Amendment was meant only for those who own a press. (Which, up until the very recent democratization of publication by our wonderful internet, making possible sites like AVfM, was largely in fact the case.)
Ah well, I live in Massachusetts, which, like NYC, somehow loopholes its way into circumventing constitutional law by municipal and state government, making purchase/carrying of firearms all but impossible. (Seriously, somebody: explain that to me sometime, if you know how that particular rabbit comes out of that specific hat?)
This is not a gun site, but I have to say that in Sweden, there are less crime and fewer unarmed honest people who get victimised than in the US. Noone are allowed to carry guns for self protection in Sweden, and noone are allowed to have guns in there homes for self protection. By this, I don’t mean there is a straight connection in between no guns and less crime. The coherence could be the other way around in other societies, and crime is always related to lots of factors – not just only one.
I concur with JinnBottle that men arm themselves in self-defense. What other chance would pool man have had against the orgasmatron murderer?
I would say, that if men eventually start arming themselves in such a way in response to objective political realities, then I could not hold them amiss for it.
And I believe that if certain trajectories continue, it is predictable that certain men will verily adopt such a policy. Who could blame them?
Thanx Perseus (see above).
A call out to the Good Men of Sweden, please put your feral females in order, they are a heinous menace to society.
What the fuck is up with Sweden? They have been exporting feminist filth to the rest of the West for years. It’s the heart of the cancer.
It’s not the responsibility of the men of sweden to put ‘their’ feral females in order, it is however the resonsibility of all the people of the earth to directly oppose this kind of vile biggoted hatred.
I know were your coming from and I don’t expect you to walk on eggshells among your brother mras but lets not blame the men of sweden when they are vicitim to the pro feminist government agenda, just like the rest of us.
@Perseus.
Also, Andrea Dworkin and the likes of her are not from sweden, as far as I know. Actually, the most radical manifesto’s and opinions from feminists have their origin in good ole US of A.
As Ullere points out, there’s no logic in starting to pinpoint the origin of an ideology that harms all men on a global scale. If this way of thinking should have had any impact, it should have been done some 30 or 40 years ago, and we’re way beyond that point now. The best thing we can do now, is realizing that we’re all in the same boat on this and attack it, united as one, on all frontlines.
Considering that the femaleist violent hate cult resides within our cultures, they are the real terrorists, the ones with the biggest potential to annihilate us. Of course, such annihilation is already in progress.
The leadership of the femaleist terror cult currently reside in a cell known as, Sweden. This is from where the biggest and most advanced terror plots are being planned, tested and exported. Strike at the nexus.
Point taken, and I agree.
Cut the head off the snake.
A call out to the Good Men of Sweden, please put your feral females in order, they are a heinous menace to society.
Excellent point,they remind me of British,American,Canadian and other western European men. Let’s throw in India and Japan as well.
Here are some names. Assuming that many amongst them will be the very ones we see in the video:
Directed by Josephine von Zeipel Segerberg
On stage: Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bordin, Kaisa Liisa Beach, Mathias Kedfors, Rasmus Pohl Östebro
Costume: Sofia Olsson
Set Design: Emma Orn
Sound Design and Technology: Patrik Boström, Johnny Karhinen, Niklas Ångman, Maja Östebro
Lighting Design and Technology: My Persson, Isabelle Oldenqvist
Music: Kajsa Poidnak
Trailer: Johan Wik
Text Processing and dramaturgy: Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro
Projections: Johnny Karhinen, Maja Östebro, Sara Östebro
Marketing: Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Ia Olsson , Maja Östebro
Website and Poster: Johnny Karin, Niklas Ångman
Help Squad: Leo Palm Steel, Matilda Johansson, Moa Widing, Theater Now
“Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bordin, Kaisa Liisa Beach . . .”
Five female names here. These are listed as “on stage”. Note that the video contains five female characters.
There are also 2 male names listed, but I see only one male character.
Plenty of Östebros involved in the production. Apparently the disease runs in families.
http://fittforfight.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/scum-manifestet-premiar-pa-turteatern-ikvall/
From the above:
Producer: Ellen Lindhagen
Seems Ellen is one of the video actresses, AND the stage producer.
Anyway, now we know that the people who made the video are the same people (“turteatern”) who are producing the version for Swedish schools.
Ellen Lindhagen’s Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1379865168&sk=info
Elin Danielsson’s Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?
id=606007107&sk=photos
Ellen and Elin are friends on Facebook, and both are connected with the SCUM project. Both names are on the “on stage” list.
Here is a very avant-garde theatre production in which a certain “Ellen Lindhagen” is involved:
http://www.aktor.se/insulinom.htm
Gosh, and Ellen L. is only one of the five actresses in the video.
Bingo! The following has a photo of Sara Ostebro, and Ellen Lindhagen is mentioned in the article. (The article discusses the stage production, but both Ellen and Sara are listed as “on stage” in the video info.)
http://www.goteborgsfria.nu/artikel/80404
Somebody may wish to compare the pic of Sara Ostebro with the stage lineup in the video. Which one is she?
Badda-badda-BINGO!
Here is the Facebook page for Mathilda Bordin.
http://www.facebook.com/matilda.bordin
I am almost certain this is “our” Mathilda.
She lives in Gotheburg, and seems to be connected with the SCUM stage production, all right!
This bounty hunting sure can turn in a lucrative business at $1000 per hole. Maybe that’s the formula to hunt down the institutional animals as well.
Every single person here is guilty as far as I’m concerned. If somebody requested my services in the production of something as violent & hateful as this, I wouldn’t even consider the offer. We need to shine a light on those in front & behind the camera. They all had a hand to play in the creation of this garbage & in the spreading of its violent, hateful & bigoted message.
Swedish is not my first language, but most of the comments on the video are negative. One of the guys mentions in Swedish how feminists need to go to Iran or Afghanistan so they can fight against a real patriarchy, and that things like this are the reason that he hates feminists and some word that I am not comfortable with the translation of, but is probably ‘leftist rabble’.
Why are we not partitioning the Swedish Government to hunt down and imprison these women for conspiracy to commit mass murder. I know it may be a long shot seeing how corrupt that government is but we really have nothing to loose. If we don’t partition them, they will most certainly do nothing, where as if we do partition them, there is a chance they might actually do something about it. I realize the chances are slim but what do we really have to loose?
It won’t make any difference whatsoever,chrix, trust me on this one.
But a man stating something similar to what these grrlz are doing, is very likely taken into custody immediately over here. And a consequence of partitioning the Swedish Goverment on this matter, will propably get YOU registered in a file over possible threats to the swedish society.
A consequence of the feminisation of the swedish society has been, that they have laws on just about anything that even resembles free will and initiative. And I do mean ANYTHING. On the other hand, the extent to which pussy passes are handed out in criminal cases, makes the US courts look like a kindergarten playing justice system.
Scandinavia, as a whole, have about the same amount of FRA’s in percentages as the US, and there has so far never been any kind of consequence for the accusers, to the best of my knowledge. They don’t even get a slap on the wrist, but are just sent home.
And I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
If you look at the amount of single mother households supported by the state in the scandinavian countries, we are talking about millions in countries with a much, much smaller amount of citizens than the US.
Hell, in Denmark they even have a weekly program on one channel that follows these single mothers, and the ‘hardship’ they have to endure because of their own stupid choices.
Of course, they are not portrayed as stupid but victims of the menz, even though a vast majority of them couldn’t think their way out of a phonebooth, and function on a level just above the average semi-intelligent primate. And the viewer ratings are staggering on this program.
A video like the one JtO has brought to our attention, will very likely just be seen as an example of womens humor, and be dismissed as such.
Not so long ago an event were set up in Copenhagen, where women could enter a booth, sit down on a chair and have pictures taken of their pussy from below, in an effort to make young girls feel better about the way they look down there. Imagine the outcry from every feminist organisation, when the tabloids got hold of these pictures and published them for all to see.
This is what goes for supposedly normal behavior over here.
I agree, just look at what has happened to Julian Assange of wikileaks fame. Assange was questioned by the Swedish authorities after being accused of “rape” by two Swedish women. After questioning Assange asked for permission to leave Sweden and it was granted. Now, he has spent a year of his life fighting extradition from the U.K. back to Sweden for questioning about the accusations of “rape” again. The extradition was granted by the U.K. authorities despite Assange not being charged with any criminal offence.
Hi Kimski,
Are your posts read like English is your native language, your name appears Polish, but I get the idea from this post you live in Sweden. Is that true?
Eh..Scandinavians do pretty well with English, generally speaking.
I see your point. Your posts also read like those of a native English speaker.
Nope, I’m from Vancouver B.C. but have lived in Denmark since I was a kid.
Petitioning , not partitioning . Partitioning means breaking something up into , well , parts . While I’m sure a partitioning of the Swedish government into bodies representing both sexes isn’t all that bad of an idea , I’m also pretty sure it’s not what you meant .
@Funcuz
Thank you.
Stupid mistake..You get a +rate.
I have for some time been trying to explain to my father the point to which feminism has brought gender relations. I showed him the SCUM video. He understands now.
I gather that this is an advert for an actual theatre production. Well, it turns out that they have adapted the SCUM manifesto to the stage for use in the Swedish school system, so I rather suspect this is the beast as the following:
CLINK HERE
The SCUM Manifesto has been adapted as a stage production for use in Swedish public schools. I’m pretty sure the present video was created as an advert by the same people:
http://tinyurl.com/7prj9ho
From the page linked above:
“When we play SCUM Manifesto for high school students made up the show into two parts. The first part is the monologue, and the second part consists of a discussion of what we have seen. What values are presented in the show? What values do we learn from our upbringing? Are there differences between men and women? Why is that in this case about? Are there things girls and guys are not allowed to do because of their gender? Do we want to change the world? Why? How? mmmm
If teachers want to continue the discussion in class time, we think it is a very good idea. Then we have teaching material that deposits SCUM Manifesto in context, showing the ideas that male thinkers have had on women throughout history and how this has shaped our own thinking. We have also proposed additional issues that may form the basis for interesting discussions.
Welcome to a provocative and loving imagination!
Audience: High school
Price: 40 SEK. pr. ticket
Book your ticket email to info@turteatern.se
Well now, that piece of information is enough to gag a maggot. I almost wish I did not know that was a play for high school kids.
You want to hear something that’s creepier still, for me anyway ?
My brother got married in Sweden the day before yesterday.
God help him.
I’m not religious and I never have been but I will pray for him anyway.
I totally agree with posting their personal info. Not if it were just your run-of-the-mill, feminist, shit-disturber, but someone advocating and encouraging murdering men…doesn’t deserve anonymity.
Of course they’ll protest that it’s merely “theatrical”. . .
But in a way that makes it even worse.
There are 100s of “theatrical” depictions of women getting raped, groped and mess around with which the feminists would never tolerate.
Make sure we RegistHER these scum-bags in both English & swedish.
Society for cutting up men, meet FTSU!
And feminists try to tell me that the SCUM manifesto was satire. Look at the very serious groups it has spawned around the globe.
The manginas of the world will just never get it. Feminists are still waffling on about the oppressive patriarchy even in countries where women have all the power and men are dogs…..and there is more women that hate men and advocate violence and murder and gendercide then ever. The more pampered and entitled they are…..they more men give them….defer to them….treat them like goddesses and princesses………the more they hate us and want to kill us.
Way to go……make all their details available.
The SCUM Manifesto has been referred to by early, proto-MRAs as “feminism’s magnetic north”.
We’ll make it all go south.
This is hardly outrageous by Swedish standards (I’m a Swede myself), SCUM is accoladed by quite a few prominent, popular “journalists” who are regularly published in the big nationwide newspapers. SCUM plays are set up directed at school children.
Our former government issued a public statement saying that DV is rooted in “patriarchal hierarchies” (könsmaktsordningen, essentially Patriarchy Theory; women are oppressed by men) and our current government has done nothing to deny it. This is the view of our entire parliament with the exclusion of a few members. It’s the same in academia.
So, yes, we are pretty far gone and it is bound to get worse before we wake up en masse…
These women are still very influential in their fields, apart from Winberg, the former “equalities minister”, however our new one, Nyamko Sabuni isn’t much better…
Edit: You’ll need to watch the clip on Youtube so you can turn captions on.
If you see my brother can you tell him we miss him and want him back.
He’s easy to spot. Just listen for the Aussie accent and look for the bride and gloom.
P.S.
…and no, that’s not a typo.
It’s hate speech and violates YouTube terms of service for promoting hate crimes and murder. BUT I think it’s very important NOT TO HAVE IT REMOVED. It needs to be copied immediately in case it does get pulled and posted on as many blogs and comment sections as possible to show the world the true face of Feminism.
100% agreed. Nobody should report it. As wide an audience as possible needs to see this video.
Then again, I doubt the biased clowns running youtube would remove it even if it was reported.
Copy it, post it unedited somewhere with a title something to the effect of, “This is the hate feminism brings against men.”
The next one, and a bit more devious, is to edit in the names under the faces as they show themselves on the video, and if on YT, hot link them to their contact information on RH.
Another idea is to turn this video against them. Edit in cards after key scenes. “This is what feminists really want to do to men,” “Do you want your son to suffer the same fate?” and so on. Just some ideas to throw out there. I have no talent for video editing.
Trying to be rational, but this type of violence against any human raises my ire a bit.
Copyright infringement. All of it.
For reporting, commenting, or criticizing purposes Fair Use should apply. I’m not an expert but I believe it would depend on how it was edited and presented.
Report a photo on her FB page here
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488189241158&set=a.480600671158.285736.780356158&type=3
It depicts a woman holding a bloodied knife on a SCUM poster.
Hang on… I reverse my thoughts on this after reading Mr. XY’s post.
Better leave their true nature out and about for as many people to see.
Sara Östebro
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770038142&sk=info
She is connected with “SCUM GBG”
….and is Facebook friends with other familiar names of the Östebro clan.
Anyway…I’m tired now, so somebody else research that “beach” girl.
The blonde girl licking the man’s head in the photo, is Mathilda Bordin.
And the tall gun grrl — that would be Elin Danielsson.
These are interesting times, ah, wait, these are fooked up beyond belief times.
Where’s the feminist outcry of their name being used …
…tumbleweeds.
I found this modified version of the video. Pretty silly, but definitely worth a laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRVoVU747k&feature=related
**mutters something these feminist women can do with their pistols..blahblah***
Ahh, so this is the unchecked nature of the female that inspired our ancestors to innovate such terms as ‘witch’ and ‘demon’ and ‘possessed’ and ‘cunt’. Where’s the exorcist?
Men, do our duty, harness that scourge.
Is it wrong that my reaction is not shock, but “It was only a matter of time?”
We should remember that Solanis did not merely advocate murder, she actually attempted to kill Andy Warhol.
Yes – exactly. They are referencing their fictional video murder to a real life attempted double murder.
I’m at work now and don’t have time to fart but are there any LinkedIn pages for the names identified? That could give us the all important employer details.
Poor Andy was never the same after the shooting, he became very introverted and had to wear a corset for the remainder of his life in order to avoid his injuries worsening. Having read the scum manifesto it comes across as the rambling of an insane person and you can’t imagine anyone being inspired by it, and then boom, along comes a sweden man killing aspirational video.
Good point. And if I am not mistaken she shot him because he refused to help her get her “work” published. Can’t imagine why he would detour that trainwreck.
We also need to bring out this type of person was not Swedish, but an an American citizen, who wrote this manifesto.
Can someone be put on RH posthumously? This person’s works is being used for the basis of active hate against men. Maybe a new grouping of historically significant influences on current feminism.
This is hands down the most disturbing thing I have seen yet from the feminist!
Pamela Oshaughnessy still holds the title for me…
Why are we only going after the actresses?
The whole organization needs to go down
*Standing ovations!*
I don’t really know how to address this video. I’ll show it to my brother, dad, and friends but I still can’t really imagine how anyone involved in this video thought it was a great idea. It’s like a group of guys making an instructional rape video, it’s sick and beyond twisted.
It’s just hatred.
How ironic that feminists consider themselves oppressed yet they can post vile messages inciting murder and/or massacre with impunity.
This comment is not intended to be critical of you or your comment, but your comment provides an opportunity for me to say something I need to say. Rape is not the equivalent of murder. We have all been brainwashed to let the word rape roll off the tongue after the word murder, but we must stop this. An aggravated assault with serious bodily injury or disfigurement bordering on attempted murder might well go hand in hand with murder. Rape without serious bodily injury does not, in my opinion. An equivilent video would be men murdering a woman in the same way and celebrating it. Non-violent rape is a crime, but it has been unjustly elevated when compared to murder.
Actually your spot on and I have + rated. Rape is not of the same magnitude as murder, and by comparing the the two I have understated the nature of this video. This video is so offensive and unbelievable I have a hard time thinking of a comparative video. As you say perhaps a video of men gang murdering and celebrating the deaths of exclusively females with a ‘do your part’ encouraging comment at the end of the video.
This gang of men killing women and celebrating aspirational video would have to be supplemented with a manifesto calling for the assasination of all women and the conquering of society by s.c.u.w. members.
My immediate response was right after the watching the video and I made an inaccurate comparison out of shock perhaps, thanks for picking it up Hayden.
I completely understand. Over the years, the feminists and white knights have conditioned us to use the crimes almost as a hyphenated word. I have to catch myself to keep from saying it, but I believe that it is important for men (and women) to stop intertwining the two. I knew your word use came from an appalled reaction to a horrible video, and I appreciate your passionate reaction. Thank you for allowing me a segway to a comment that I have often wanted to make but have not before now. Keep on fighting and being justifiably outraged gentlemen!
As a suggestion for this article perhaps add a link to the original scum manifesto so readers can get an inclination of this groups inspiration.
http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm
Is the link I use but I’m sure you have your own.
One or two ideas:
-See if any of these monsters is a registered university student, then petition that institution to prosecute them, or at the very least, create a stink on that campus. Even if the U. is an accomplice, let the press know about it and the U. might change its song.
- Google or do a database search for academic references to SCUM. You may find all sorts of neutral or laudatory stuff that the rad-fem academics have written about SCUM. Then, shame academic feminism, by tagging them individually with the connection to this outrage. Mail the link to university presidents who have faculty who do not condemn SCUM or are positive toward it.
On a civic level, that may be the most you can do; only behind the ivy-covered walls do gender-fems have the depravity to justify this horror.
Good ideas, Justicer, but you just have to realize, that you are dealing with a completely different mindset in scandinavia/sweden as a whole here. I can, at ANY given moment of the year, go out and pick up at least 10 papers in which female bloggers express opinions, that would make the ‘mommy-blogger’s’ recently entered on register-her.com look as worshippers of men.
There would be noone to shame them.-There would be no legal actions taken against them. -There would be no stink, because this is just everyday life for men over here. And they most certainly wouldn’t even be told to tone it down a bit.
But you, yourself, would be looked upon as a relic from the past or the time of the dinosaurs, just for suggesting such things, because nobody even dares question the superiority of the female gender over here. It is taboo, on a level above blasphemy in the dark ages, so you will never ever see any such consequences as the ones you are suggesting.
We do, however, make as many jokes, and make them look as stupid as we possibly can, which they do their utmost to help out with to an overwhelming degree, just by being alive. And on a sidenote, the last time something similar happened to such an extent, was when the germans occupied the countries in WWII.
Run this through translate.google.com to get the picture:
http://www.goteborgsfria.nu/artikel/80404
Don’t have to.
I’m probably less than 1000 km from you, and have no problem with understanding most of the Scandinavian languages.
Good lord, I never thought it possible. This is worse than Canada.
‘Neue Regel’ is here.
1A and 1B justicer.
Surprising isn’t it?
“There would be noone to shame them.-There would be no legal actions taken against them. -There would be no stink, because this is just everyday life for men over here. And they most certainly wouldn’t even be told to tone it down a bit.”
All right, so you could not shame these people from within Scandinavia.
HOWEVER. . .
If the disinfecting sunlight of the WORLD’s gaze were brought to bear upon Scandinavia/Sweden. . .
That would be a whole different psychology.
Oh hey, I just saw Johnny Karhinen’s entries below. It looks like my comment above already came true!
Which is the main reason for my being here.
There’s no point in arguing with the brainwashed mob in the countries over here, anyway..-They don’t even realize there’s a problem, even though they have to ask girlfriends or wifey’s permission for just about everything, while looking like dog’s that’s been beaten to often.
But together with you guys and with register-her.com to back things up, now that’s an entirely different matter.
heres the producers entry in the online telephone catalogue:
http://www.ratsit.se/BC/ReportSmall.aspx?ID=wxwMSJyetl6jxITUO16EUsfGgdxi6xKzzjpn65EKN_E
What a surprise that she is not married.
Thats not the online telephone cataloge, thats a credit rating information site.
Hi everyone, I’m Johnny Karhinen and I’m part of the group who worked with the play that spawned the video. I’m not really here to debate, just to clarify a few things. Your reactions are totally understandable as you’re watching the video out of context, so you don’t need to defend yourself.
(and I also think it’s gross)
1. There is no “organization”, although the play is about one. So don’t worry, “we” are not out to get you.
2. The play is not at all like the video. The video is meant as a viral “wtf?!” to give attention to both the questions that it raises and the play itself.
3. In that way, the play is kind of like the video. It is all about questioning yourself, what you think and what you do, and also the society as a whole.
4. No, none of us wants to kill or harm anyone, or think that it’s right to do so.
5. We in the group all agree that you need to know that Valeria Solanas was sexually abused as a child, homeless for some time, a prostitute (under really bad conditions) and probably mentally ill when you read the S.C.U.M manifesto. It is not to be taken literally, as is neither the play nor the video.
6. The play does not really give answers to the questions that it raises. The answers that it gives is criticized in the play itself. See #3.
7. The video wasn’t meant to be spread as wide as it has been. It was meant mostly to get attention in the local theatre/activism groups (where we could answer the WTF’s directly), not to spread some message about men’s soon to come extinction. Yes, we wanted it to be viral (see #2), but we didn’t expect it to go this far.
tl;dr: It’s totally out of context, and not to be taken literally.
Well, there it goes. I’m not sure if it makes anything better, but hey, it’s worth a try.
Very funny, Johnny.
Thank you for your condescension.
No debate: we’re just gonna FYSU.
I apologize if I came through as condescending, I really didn’t mean that.
Johnny
You were condescending, and you maybe a tad naive.
Welcome to the manosphere: check it out — you might learn something.
Well, he has listed ‘V for Vendetta’ as a favourite movie, so he’s got parts of it covered.
Now he just needs to connect the dots.
Well then if this whole thing is just a great big misunderstanding, “not to be taken literally”; than it only serves to show how stupid and naive you and these women are.
You actually planned this out as a “stunt” of sorts not even anticipating a negative reaction or public outrage across the internet. So if you’re just a bunch of cool/hip art students, you’re idiots, and if you’re a bunch of feminists you’re a violent group that condones the murder of men, for just being men.
Either way you lose.
Suffice to say what you thought was an innocent yet outrageous publicity stunt, will now be forever archived along with the personal information of its participants publicized worldwide as violent haters of men.
Now you know.
I’m not saying that it’s not stupid, naive or idiotic. Anyway, it’s done, and none of us can do anything about that. As you said, it’s on the internet.
“none of us can do anything about that” Really? have you not been reading this thread?
Then you will just have to live with the consequences of your “brilliant little stunt.” I hope all of your future potential employers learn of this folly, recognize you as the loose-cannon liability that you are, and turn you away.
Please provide us with your address, telephone number, place of employment, etc.
Address and phone number:
http://www.hitta.se/ViewDetailsWhite.aspx?vad=Johnny+Karhinen&Vkiid=XF5vNmVwkQj%252f5fjr%252fuVgLA%253d%253d&Vkid=67314347
He is currently employed as a developer at Hemliga Byrån:
http://hemligabyran.se/kontakt/
And “Förstöra det manliga könet” / “Destroying the male gender” on your Facebook page, is that also “totally out of context”? If so, would you mind telling us what the correct context is, Johnny Karhinen?
oooooops
Dear Johnny,
Fuck you.
I am sure you will find some postmodern irony to enjoy in your being the first man entered on Register-Her.com
Mr. Karhinen. You may be able to shrug this off as no big deal given the disturbing political climate in your country, but it is that aloof smugness which helps us state our case even further. For this type of video to fly, even as “satire”, shows how desensitized to misandric violence you anticipate your viewing audience to be. I flat out don’t believe that you didn’t intend on the video being viewed by many people. If that were the case you would not have posted it on youtube. You would have kept it as a private project among you and your cohorts.
I assure you that I am no prude. I’ve enjoyed “tasteless” entertainment before and I’ve viewed my share of violent underground movies. I’ve even pushed limits with some of my own writing but I never defended it with meek solipsism. If I wanted to rattle someone, I knew what the reaction would be and I didn’t come back with “you shouldn’t have taken it literally”. Own up to your irresponsible behavior, sir.
Lastly, when you make statements like this; “Valeria Solanas was…a prostitute (under really bad conditions) and probably mentally ill…” it shows your feminist slant. You are essentially excusing Solanas’ morbid diatribe by making her into a victim. Victim or not, I don’t know of any act of prostitution that is executed under “good” conditions. And “probably” mentally ill, Mr Karhinen? Is that really up for debate, in your head? It seems it would take one to know one but I stand corrected. You can’t expect us to believe that you honestly pose that question after proving a visceral understanding of her manifesto. I think you knew exactly how self-respecting men would react to your video and, as you most likely exhibit the lack of empathy common to a sociopath, you are merely trying to cover up frustration for being “caught” by acting innocuous.
They have you well trained don’t they John
1.”The video is meant as a viral “wtf?!”
2.”The video wasn’t meant to be spread as wide as it has been.”
Anyone else seeing the contradiction here? So, which outcome was intended? To ve viral (meaning very widespread) or not..?
Johnny, I venture to say that you and your cohorts in this disgusting propaganda-piece should be taken literally – taken into custody, that is, and locked up for the safety of Society.
Here’s Kaisa-Liisa Strand. Shes the crazy staring person with brown hair and fringe on pic 5, 7, 9.
edit:
in this link, that is:
http://harmedforklararjagkrigmotgud.blogg.se/2011/may/
Here’s info on Elin Danielsson:
http://personer.eniro.se/profil/elin+danielsson/per_9394853?search_word=Elin%20Danielsson
victorsvoice deleted his comment, so I guess I’ll remove my reply also.
I didn’t delete it. I just added the photo to the comment.
Weird, cause I can’t see the comment or any photo.
Okay. I will just post it again. Maybe only I can see it.
JohnnyKarhinen : http://www.facebook.com/intedinmamma
“intedinmamma” = “not your mom”
I looked at the info tab, and he is friends with Elin Danielsson and it seems that they’re part of some group called “Forstor det manliga konet”, which means “destroy the male gender” in Swedish.
Picture I found of Johnny and Elin… Maybe there’s more of them.
http://www.facebook.com/intedinmamma#!/photo.php?fbid=45558588265&set=t.758943265&type=3&theater
Great work. Saving all pictures in case they, um, disappear. The pictures that is.
Yes. I have saved a whole bunch from my researches last night. Screen captures, with part of the FB interface surrounding them, to give context.
Myself as well. Helps to have it in multiple places.
Thank you. I would like to know what Mr. Karhinen’s explanation is concerning his association with Forstor det manliga konet. Perhaps as he has felt at liberty to post here in defense of the video he will be so kind as to elaborate on this group as well.
I am also wondering if swede w capitol ass has any news link about the running of the Scum production for teenagers and the mandate to other theaters to read it.
What’s been typical is that a young man will associate himself with a “Man-Hate” radfem group like this because through it he receives some female attention and maybe even sexual favor; all the while oblivious to the fact that when they make castration and death of men mandatory, he’d be first on the list.
(Kind of like manboobz being kicked off feministing because he used the word “hate” inappropriately.)
I’ve little doubt that he thinks that he would be exempt from the purge of men.
What especially interests me though is to see what contortions he adopts in order to claim that a group whose name means “destroy the male gender” is just an artistic expression of satire meant to enlighten the members through exploring their full potential by a variety of hallucinary landscapes, or some such fruity nonsense like that. I have no faith that Mr. Karhinen will actually come clean and admit that the name represents the actual sentiments of the group, if indeed it does.
The irony of feminism is that they’re still women, and women deep inside hate submissive men and get turned on by dominant men who defy them.
How freaking ironic is it that a ton of feminists out there are probably having wet-dreams about banging Paul Elam?
They even published an entire book where they admit this issue of sexual attraction to the men they hate – it’s one of the “big ones” in feminist history. Can’t remember the name now, but it’s basically a whole book about that problem they have.
Isn’t Pride and Prejudice the story of a woman who ends up marrying a man she hates for much the story?
A man who is dark, brooding, and mysterious rather than open, smiley, and immediately likable.
It happens to be one of the favorite female fantasies of all time.
No problem. “Förstöra det manliga könet” is an inside joke from the play.
And no, I don’t believe I am defending the video. I think it’s gross and that it sends out the wrong signals on it’s own.
What you said is untrue.
If you believed this video is “…gross and that it sends out the wrong signals on it’s own. ” you’d have done something to mitigate against any damage caused.
However, the truth is you don’t really care and have done nothing anyway.
If you did care you’d remove yourself from the group associated with the play and make intelligent and precise effort of apology made genuine by several measures.
1/ Public apology.
2/ Public denouncement of the SCUM play and it’s players.
3/ Complete severance of yourself from the SCUM play and it’s players.
4/ A public expose from you of the true intention of the SCUM play and it’s players.
5/ A list of all addresses, phone numbers etc of those associated with the SCUM play.
6/ Some measure of effort from yourself fiscal or time surrendered to an organisation that is active in it’s stated mission to bring equality to men within the feminist governance.
Anything short of you meeting these has your real thoughts on this disgraceful matter elucidated.
Lastly:
If you do with genuine spirit decide to meet those points above because you are truly regretful of your behaviour, I suggest you address point 6 somewhere else as here you are held in our eyes forever uncouth, undignified and unwanted.
Yes, that’s me.
“not your mom” is a wordplay on “yo mama”
“destroy the male gender” is an inside joke from the play.
Yeah, it’s a joke John. There was a guy that played a similar joke on Jews once upon a time.
Exactly Stu, thats how it always begins. A joke followed by subtle propaganda to test the waters. Finally the day comes and they make good on there propaganda. Genocide insures.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters1.htm
“This poster announces a Nazi meeting in Munich in May 1920. Hitler is to speak on the topic “What do we want?” The text below the title reads: “Citizens! Do not believe that the Germany of misfortune and misery, the nation of corruption and usury, the land of Jewish corruption, can be saved by parties that claim to stand on a foundation of facts. Never!”
I am curious Johnny, how on Gods green Earth could you even associate with these people? I am trying very hard to understand your motives here. Is it pussy? Art, what? Entire ethnic groups have been decimated as a result of propaganda like this, it’s sick man.
Oh, I saw that movie! A dwarf with a Charlie Chaplin mustache. Hey, didn’t that movie end with a shot to the head too?
Intestering sense of humor, then. When I was a paper & pencil D&D gamer as a kid, our inside joke was “Lets talk to it.”
And yet from the very association of gaming, we were labeled Satanists. I can only imagine what the public opinion would have been had our joke involved genocide.
I remember what that was like. There I am, a geeky lookin’ kid, being given a wide berth because of my D&D books and my rabbit fur die bag. Even the big kids didn’t mess with the “die rolling Satanist” sitting with his friends at the lunch table. Our inside joke was a little different though. We would always call out “Wonder Twin powers, Activate!” at the beginning of a battle.
Sounds great. I was 20 years-old and doing rock tours and banging skanks left and right. So what? Keep the D&D shit to yourself…
Yeaahhhh….nice….I can relate to that. By the time I was 20 I was stationed at Fort Bragg getting ready to do a tour in Operation Joint Endeavor. That D&D geek managed to grow the fuck up and learned not to stick his dick into some disease ridden “skank”. Sloppy seconds was never my style. Poor form, ZenCo. You better check your target before you fire.
ZenCo.
I like your ‘shoot from the hip’ comments normally but this one stinks.
Not cool mate. —>
The D&D geek slept with one of the female players, whom I barely knew in real life. She called me by my character’s name in bed.
How many of you can say you’ve slept with a half-nymph?
Riiiight….. Lot’s of ‘inside jokes’ and they all seem to have a central theme. “destroy the male gender” is pretty hard to misinterpret. You are being exposed.
Ya know, even if it truly IS a ‘joke’. . .
It is a joke in very piss-poor taste.
And that alone says something.
Comedy has comedy in it. I defy anyone to articulate a point of humor in that video. That video was nothing related to comedy, it was a political statement and a recruiting tool. Cult propaganda, particularly malicious, violent and grandiose in its scheming.
Point blank brutal violence without a punchline is in every technical sense, not humor.
The acid test is to reverse the sexes here. Were a group of boys to murder a grown woman in cold blood, lick her blood, and go all orgasmic on us as comedy…and if feminists found THAT funny for some reason…they might be able to plausibly consider this humor.
Of course, we all know that feminists would never laugh as one of their own took one for the team.
“an inside joke from the play.”
What aspect of genocide did you and Elin Danielsson, currently a student at Göteborgs Universitet (www.gu.se) and employed at one of Göteborgs 25 systembolag, find the most amusing?
I cannot see it either and I don’t think pics can be added here.
Okay, my bad.
It seems only I can see them when I’m logged in.
Some type of bug maybe.
It could be that comments with images are put in a moderation queue.
Sometimes they don’t appear…sometimes they do.
Don’t listen to Jonny Karhinen. This is not out of context in any significant way.
There was to be a demonstration in Stockholm today, as a matter of fact, against a state-theatre production of SCUM directed at teenagers. The demonstration was cancelled due to the police claiming they would not be able provide protection against violence from feminist cohorts.
Instead, the largest state-theatre in Stockholm issued a PM ordering other theatres to also read from the SCUM-manifesto.
I would have to agree.
This is a group of feminists celebrating the victory over men, while doing very little to adress the behaviors of women in general. They apparently only have problems with the violence of the SCUM-manifesto. In other words, you would have no problem selling Pamela O’Shaughnessy’s ‘solution’ to these women.
It is ‘supposedly’ meant to be satirical play that adresses gender roles and people’s personal choices in that perspective.
@JohnnyKarhinen:
Well, you got the attention for the play that you wanted, so why don’t you adress the WTF?! issue here?
Well, the play hasn’t been running for almost a year, and the video wasn’t giving us any real attention until recently. So it kind of failed in that aspect…
I believe that it is right to raise the questions that the video does (and all of you do too), but I don’t necessarily think that it does it in the best way for this context. As i said, it’s meant for the actor/activist community, not for the general public.
In what world is this video remotely defensible? The only comparisons I can think of to it are exploitation movies such as Last House on the Left – but even in these films, the violence done against women is not portrayed as a positive. The movie exploits a sick voyeuristic thrill the audience has to witness True Evil (which I find disturbing, regardless of the gender it’s perpretrated against), but while it celebrates Evil, it doesn’t promote it.
The only way this video would be remotely justifiable is if the people in it were protesting SCUM – but they’re not. They’re celbrating it. They’re advocating it. However you mince words, they’re ultimately pro the sort of ideas which lead to this sort of violence. It’s like neo-nazis making a film about the gas chambers, and then claiming they’re not *actually* for genocide, just national socialism.
Good god, man, how can you possible defend anything this sick?
I think a big difference between this and something like say, August Underground, is that feminism is an actual political movement and the video specifically says “Do your part” (if it was meant in another context, then it would have probably been better to clarify that before uploading). Toe Tag (the company that makes the AU films) isn’t political, nor do those films have a statement that pop ups at the end and says “Hey, now it’s your turn! Do your part!”. Maybe I’m misunderstanding all of this, but if “Do your part!” (right after killing a guy) was meant in any other way, it would have been better to clarify that. Perhaps there could have been a disclaimer of some sort?
“As i said, it’s meant for the actor/activist community, not for the general public.”
If activists (by which I assume you are talking about feminist activists, please do correct me if I am wrong) are the target audience, then unless your aim was to get a negative reaction and a healthy discussion about how to deal with the extremists of your own movement, and I somehow doubt that, how is this not promoting terrorism?
How is this not the equivalent of islamist fanatics dancing around with the severed head of an “infidel”, delirious in their joy?
Yes, the point was to raise questions and get discussions started.
@JohnnyKahrhinen
“Yes, the point was to raise questions and get discussions started.”
Well, now you have my interest. Would you care to detail those discussions, and any resolutions reached? Take all the space you need, the internet is boundless and an entire activist community is rapt with attention. Please, do tell us how this video is part of the Greater Good, rather than the base, violent propaganda it seems to the casual observer.
We all wait with ‘baited breath. Heck, it might even make a good article. Have at ‘er, Johnny!
You make me fucking sick…punk.
And how exactly are activists different from MRA’s? You don’t think we are activists? How condesending ass. You obviously don’t know what you’ve gotten yourself into.
“Yes, the point was to raise questions and get discussions started.”
No, it was not.
No feminists, especially not those that proudly and openly praise Solanas, would participate in anything that had the purpose of examining and questioning that same feminism. You and I both know perfectly well, that is simply not how a feminist functions.
If you insist that I am wrong, then I have a suggestion:
Help them make another YouTube video.
One in which they take turns to explain why Solanas was wrong and her message is detrimental to the world. You know, like when ex-convicts and junkies tour the schools to clear up any misconceptions.
How much time do you need? A week? Two?
Hey Johnny,
“Yes, the point was to raise questions and get discussions started.” What questions, Johnny? Johnny, what questions to raise? What discussion, Johnny? Johnny, what discussion did you intend to start?
WTF is an understatement!
The police did however provide security for the SCUM-show and the feminist cohort.
Feminism in Sweden is always top down. It was implemented from the socialist party (Socialdemokraterna). And is now the main ideology in government and media, and of course the courts.
Due to weak constitution (that the socialists put in place) the socialists can still run the country while out of office.
Seriously Americans, vote libertarian. Or whatever reinforces the original constitution. The more I see things, the more it becomes apparent that this feminist nightmare is just the kind of scourge the authors were protecting against. And the comment of ‘swede w capitol’ makes that all too clear:
“Due to weak constitution (that the socialists put in place) the socialists can still run the country while out of office.”
Thats not true. The right wing have been more than happy to both embrace and extend the feminist support!
This video and the ideology behind it are just incredibly, horrifically sick.
Speechless.
Agree Dr T. I have not commented once. I am slack jawed. Just when I thought the depravity and hatred emanating from the feminists and their lackeys can go no lower…..
Scatmaster, it’s been several hours since I posted the above comment and had a phone conversation with Paul and I still have no words.
Just wow.
The ammount of revulsion this induces is comparable to “3 Men, One Hammer” and some of the extremist BDSM porn I have (unfortunately) seen (if any feminists are reading, the violence in said porn was targetedly equally at both genders). I would have been less disturbed if this had been real – that would of simply been 4 psychopaths. That anybody – let alone a whole organization – thought that this was an appropriate thing to make in advocacy of their cause leaves me speechless.
I am speechless.
Someone just posted these names at the video comments: “Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bordin, Kaisa Liisa Beach.”
All will go on RHC in due course. Along with their images. I am still hopeful we can secure their personal information or at least where they attend school.
It should be clarified that “Beach” is the English translation of her actual name; “Strand”.
I just posted, but don’t see it. Is there a delay today? I’ll try again: Someone just posted these names on comments at shrew-tube: “Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bordin, Kaisa Liisa Beach.”
Well, my post landed further up the page, not at the end like they usually do.
“7. The video wasn’t meant to be spread as wide as it has been. It was meant mostly to get attention in the local theatre/activism groups (where we could answer the WTF’s directly), not to spread some message about men’s soon to come extinction. Yes, we wanted it to be viral (see #2), but we didn’t expect it to go this far.”
In the age of internet? Idiots.
Right. Which explains why they posted it on youtube alongside piano playing squirrels where anyone in the world can see it.
“We wanted it to go viral, but we didn’t expect it to go this far” [and thought we'd only get praise from our sicko-phantic echo chamber.]
The point of making a potentially viral video is that you want as many people as possible to see it — except, that is, people who will hold you accountable for . . . sorry, still don’t have any words to describe that video.
More backpedaling a la JMK.
Is there a Swedish word for ACCOUNTABILITY?
“More backpedaling a la JMK.”
Yeah, the hamsters are really getting a run for the money these days.
-And the word you would be looking for, Dr.T, is:
Ansvarsskyldighet or ansvarstagande.
Thanks, Kimski!
You’re welcome.
It’s one of those words you can’t find in the Feminist Dictionary, no matter which language you try to translate it into.
I flagged and reported the video as terrorism..
No, we should leave this video up; let their ugliness stay on the internet for all to see.
I suggest everyone makes a copy of it (DownloadHelper 4.9.7 works for Firefox 8.0), in the event that YouTube or the channel owners have it removed.
In fact, I believe it could cause some involuntary bowel movements for our feminist friends, if it turned viral for real and the “civilians”, many of which have never been exposed to this aspect of feminism, got the chance to see it.
I’m dreaming of a brown… Christmas.
Stated some ideas above to turn this against them, slamming feminism in the process. Make sure the emphasis is this is not a joke, and it was based on the manifesto.
Someone said this video was the worst thing they have seen feminism do. But much much worse than this happens every single day in a mass soft kill program against men through the courts, the health care policies, outright eugenics against our boys, and general misandry. They are doing this right now to all of us on a mass scale, and like slow boiled frogs the public doesn’t realize it. I would prefer it was like this video so everyone….the world….could see and know exactly what is going on and have a clear chance to react. The happy faces of these women in the video and their dancing is an accurate representation of what our own government bureaucrats are doing.
If your referring to my post above (maybe your not) but if you are… I meant from a youtube perspective. I have never seen them sink so low and disgusting on youtube. If this was the exact same video only men doing it to women that video would not have even made it past a 100 views.
Muk and yourself are correct, the eugenics crap is horrendous beyond belief.
I hear you brother…I was just using that thought to raise the other issues.
What is it about the human psyche that allows it to immortalize and internationalize the insane and nonsensical words of something like the SCUM manifesto while marginalizing and burying the words of the Thomas James Balls of this world? A murderous woman is heard across oceans, but a sincere citizen, veteran, and father goes unheard in his own country after sacrificing all that he had while injuring only himself.
From the archived credits…
http://web.archive.org/web/20101101113503/http://bokascum.se/
Regi: Josefin von Zeipel Segerberg
“Directed by Josefin Zeipel Segerberg”
She seems to be a student at the University of Gothenburg.
http://www.hsm.gu.se/Utbildning/antagning/antagning_2011/
“The following persons have been admitted to the March 18 BA Programme in theater, acting, direction:
Signe Barfoed G112310
Jenny Ellegård G112429
Ardalan Hakimi Fard G112555
Sofia shore G112736
Joakim Lindberg G112771
André Nilsson G112905
Julie M. Sando G112869
__Josephine von Zeipel Segerberg__ G113264
Carl-Markus Wickstrom G113244
Disa Östrand G113292
provided that the basic competence is observed.”
A graduate of this year.
http://www.hsm.gu.se/Utbildning/Skadespelarutbildning/studenter/skadespelare-ak-1/
Her picture is there.
She could be the same person from this 2008 article.
http://www.dn.se/pa-stan/scen/stolt-teater
“Lisa Wollter and 20-year-old __Josephine von Zeipel-Segerberg__ has the opposite directions conceived the idea to try to start a free theater group with LGBTQ profile. They could not believe their ears when they heard that the Theatre Academy of thought one step further.”
http://www.118100.se/person/117560415/josefin-von-zeipel-segerberg
Perhaps she’s dropped the “Von” from her name because it sounds too bourgeois.
Sweden’s loony feminists and their Feminist Initiative Party (FI) didn’t just occupy forum boards:
“Determined to transcend “patriarchal norms,” FI decided against having official leaders. Yet now the purged “moderate” feminists complained of a “democratic deficit” on the board. The Feminist Initiative had become “much worse” than the traditional patriarchal organizations it was meant to replace, said one. In other words, “man tax” advocate and de facto leader, Gudrun Schyman, was in control, purging the “moderates” (themselves quite radical by American standards) and siding with the radicals. The entertainment at the conference further radicalized the party’s image, particularly the rapturous applause for a song that went, “F***ing man, we’re going to chop you to bits.””
and SCUM mention from the documentary The Gender War(about DV in Sweden):
“Under Von Wachenfeldt, the government’s women’s shelter network had printed excerpts from the “SCUM Manifesto” (Society for Cutting Up Men), penned by a radical feminist in the late 1960s. The SCUM Manifesto urges women to “destroy the male sex” by using modern science to insure that only female children are born. SCUM goes on to say: “To call a man an animal is to flatter him: he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” Asked by the film-maker if she agreed, Von Wachenfeldt said, “Yes, man is an animal. Don’t you think so?””
http://old.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200602220826.asp
Johnny Karhinen has the air of a person doing damage control while treading carefully in a mine field.
Ten more videos to drive us crazy:
http://kalyan-city.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-10-wife-beating-husband-videos-on.html
And one I’m sure Swedish feminists will laugh hysterically at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0Sq6ugOqU
Finally, a suggestion: the MRM should create a youtube clip about a guy who kills 14 women. He could tap-dance and croon while hemurdering. We could call it, “The Dirty Dozen…Plus Two.”
The shooter would make merry, cheered by hundreds of men.
It’d base on Marc Lepine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_Polytechnique_massacre
We’d claim his actions were informed by the WHORES Womanifesto: “World-wide, Harridans Oughttabe Raped, Eviscerated, Shot.”
Fair’s fair.
Anyone offended by our humorous, artistic, imaginative play would be told to, uh, just lighten up.
Deal?
I would love to make a video response to those walking vaginas. Let’s see, just before she pulls the trigger……………………………………………..
Howzabout advocating (a la ‘Soylent Green’) that in a starving world, Swedish meatballs should now be made from actual Swedes?
Only unlike Swift, we’d create ads based on Scandos who were ACTUALLY murdered. You know, “Try Lars Anderson Angus Burgers!”
If anyone complains, we’ll say we’re “just joking.”
As a former professional actor (no, nothing bigtime, not usually even enuff to pay the rent), I left the theatre by 1991, in total disgust with the PC (“political culture”; “packed with cunts”; “pure crap” – fill in your own!) it had lapsed into. I used to love Theatre; now I hate it. Johnny Karhinen’s rationale for the murder-mongering of the video is of the same breed as all feminist writing; nebulous mist with no discoverable solid object anywhere in it, designed solely to make impressionable souls lose their way.
Exactly. Well said.
I have a Swedish correspondent who informs me that he is afraid of seeming “militant” if he publishes a link, to this AVFM post, on the web. In Sweden, the state inspires FEAR.
I would bet the fear is greater in Sweden, but that it’s just a matter of a more virulent member of the same species that lives and lords it here, in the USA. (It says something about that when I tell you that “JinnBottle” is not the name appearing on my birth certificate.)
I think Johnny is actually attempting to be honest here and he may have been duped into thinking that this play was merely to open discussion by shocking people.
Here is some discussion provided by Pelle Billing about the play:
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://www.pellebilling.se/2011/11/scum-forestallningen-kontext-ar-allt/&ei=k9rKTuCyMuPZ0QHN0_hn&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC8Q7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpelle%2Bbilling%2Bscum%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D695%26bih%3D835%26prmd%3Dimvns
It’s actually not the same play. The one I was involved in (and the one related to the video) ran about a year ago.
I don’t know as much about the one that the article is about, but I (and the rest of the group) agree that the manifesto is provocating and sometimes way off crazy. That’s why we cut out and/or rewrote several parts. Not that it matters now, as it’s mostly the video that’s being discussed.
Guys like John are really between a rock and a hard place, that they put themselves in, in the pursuit of female approval. They are hated by men……and no…..you male feminists don’t qualify…….and they are hated by women…….yes…..all women…..feminists and non feminists. They only pretend to like you John…….because you’re a useful idiot.
Please understand this Mr. Karhinen, we will do everything in our power to make sure as many people worldwide see this video as possible AND know the identities of you and your brain-diseased, psychopathic friends. We will not stop. We will not let it go. We will actively make your names and identities known on the internet FOREVER. This will follow you for the rest of your lives. Your names will make the top search results for any future employers who look you up online.
We will also alert authorities in Europe and the USA (at least I will) of your identities as potential terrorists.
I certainly don’t want (real) scum like you ever coming to my country.
Have a nice day and FUCK YOU.
Since we are all talking about feminism and Sweden in the same breath, I might as well send somebody to the notorious Swedish TV documentary Konskrieget, which is a SHOCKING account of Swedish feminism.
How shocking? Go and learn for yourself. You have been warned:
http://www.daddys-sverige.com/3/post/2011/03/the-truth-about-swedish-feminism-do-not-watch-this-film.html
This is given in 10 YouTube segments. In total, it is about 90 minutes long.
Facinating Documentary. Exactly the same thing happened in New Zealand in the 90′s.
http://menz.org.nz/cosa/city-possessed/
Sweden, New Zealand, United States, United Kingdom, and Canada all manifest identical social engineering for the bebefit of women alone within the last thirty years, and yet, we still don’t think the radfems in organizations link NOW have a master plan for female supremacy and male slavery.
I read the interesting commentary before the videos, but the first video was in Swedish, which I cannot make heads or tails of. I enjoy following Fidelbogen comments and link trails because they are interesting without fail, but you are over my head here.
From the introductory statement about how the Swedish government socially engineered the breakup of families and the child protection system created circumstances to take children, it sounds like the U.S. is following Sweden’s pattern.
Hayden: In the youtube window look for the pointed up arrow in the bottom right hand corner. Start the YouTube video, click on the arrow, and then hit the CC icon. The English subtitles will appear in a few seconds.
Thank you. I will give it another try.
@JohnnyKarhinen
Are there any discussion guides handed out when the play is performed? If so can you post them?
It would seem like this play would create more anti-feminists than feminists. And create more conflict between the genders. What has been the reaction by the students?
I don’t remember any guides being handed out when we ran it (it was over a year ago), but there were discussions after each play that were mentored (? not sure about the right word) by some people from an equality organization.
The play is nothing like the video, as I wrote in my initial comment. From what I’ve heard most of the students really liked it, both boys and girls.
Just for checks & balances, I like to reverse the context or ‘turn the tables’ so to speak. It’s provides a fast and easy insight into the nature of a belief system. You should try it.
How do you think this would go down if in reverse? How would you feel about it then? would you participate? Good luck with that future of yours, you’re going to need it, as your ‘friends’ are. You really have offended the wrong people.
It seems “everybody” has some eazy-greezy “excuse” for such excresences as this video. It is ALWAYS an “inside joke”, always “taken out of context”, etc, etc, etc.
Well maybe it’s time for people to have a care about such possibilities BEFORE it all blows up in their faces. Because it seems to me there are far too many “inside jokes out of context” floating around in the cultural atmosphere nowadays.
To the point where the cultural atmosphere is saturated with them.
And it is just plain rude to impose upon the rest of the world in such a manner.
This video is just part of the ongoing campaign to desensitize and normalize increasing levels of brutality and violence against men, by women. It’s the same strategy that the nazis used against the jews, and numerous other genocidal regimes have used against their target demographic since the beginning of history.
You start out blaming the target demographic for any problems that others have, you ramp this up, making any past or present mole hill into a mountain……you then move to pure unadulterated lies…..by this time the sheeple are past investigating whether any claim is true or false, and just accept any blatant lie as fact. You then move to restrict and oppress the target demographic to protect all others from their evil. The next stage is promoting violence against the target demographic, all the while maintaining that despite all the previous efforts, and no matter how little power the target demographic have in society….they are still the evil oppressors and source of all problems of everybody else.
The final solution of course is incarceration, slavery, and extermination. This is where it always leads…..every time..without fail. Feminism is at the promotion of violence stage. We are once step away from the final solution. All that needs to happen for it to move to the next stage is for enough men to sit and do nothing…..or worse……deny…and support feminism.
This. Well said Stu, it’s what I’m referring to, every time I ask if the cycle is beginning anew. Another point to consider, is that some of the most powerful people in our respective societies, always seem to support and encourage, a push towards inducing fear and bringing about totalitarianism. They’ve realized that a woman claiming to be afraid, can be used to justify, just about anything and if they can be made fearful, they can be counted upon to incite just about any level of irrational hostility against men and even boys or particular ethnic groups. Which brings me to a certain biologically derived set of tendencies, in most women, that I believe Marx was alluding to, when he wished to use them as proxies to bring in his socialist ideal.
Help me out if you would Stu…where did you get that list from? I remember there being some long article or book on the subject of the trajectory of Genocide, but I can’t find it now…
I think I probably read something directly about this, and probably the same thing you’re referring too, but I don’t remember the name of the article, or the source. But what I said is basically conclusions that I’ve drawn from the reading……bits and pieces here and there….over the years…..about various repressive regimes……they all seem to follow this formula. I don’t actually think it’s planned out in advance, I think each new generation of feminists for example, tries to build on…..and outdo the last bunch of loony man haters. The reason it’s taking so long for feminism to reach the final solution stage is that they have to rely almost completely on members of their target demographic carrying out most of the incarceration, enslavement, and extermination of their own demographic……but I’m sure this only slows down the inevitable. I think the only thing that can stop the cycle progressing…..is direct action by an opposing group in society to halt the progress.
This might be what you’re looking for Factory – The Eight Stages of Genocide
3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases. Dehumanization overcomes the normal human revulsion against murder. At this stage, hate propaganda in print and on hate radios is used to vilify the victim group. In combating this dehumanization, incitement to genocide should not be confused with protected speech. Genocidal societies lack constitutional protection for countervailing speech, and should be treated differently than democracies.
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html
Exactly what “questions” do this ad or play supposedly raise?
If it was the Society for Cutting Up Jews, or Society for Cutting Up Blacks, or Society for Cutting Up Women, this would considered be hate speech. Plain and simple.
Swedish law does not regard men as a group that can be discriminated against. The complaint filed by the professor from Umeå with the office of the ombudsman for discrimination is trying to make this a test case so that men in the future can be regarded as a “folkgrupp” and so that their law against “hets mot folkgrupp” can apply to feminists attacking men as well.
A very entertaining thread. I wish I read Swedish.
Perhaps this is all an outtake from Wild Strawberries?
I suggest to the governor of Minnesota that he sever all ties with the Homeland.
I’ve sent this info in an e-mail to avoiceformen@yahoo.com
Information presented in the following order: name, national identification number, adress, phone number, Facebook page.
POE is absent on all girls except the first one on the list since they study at university and don’t seem to have jobs (no surprise). The list:
* Elin Danielsson
19880606-4641
Vårvädersgatan 19 lgh 1605, 418 31 Göteborg
+46738353610
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=606007107
Place of employment is Systembolaget, a government owned chain of liquor stores in Sweden
* Josefin von Zeipel Segerberg
19880308-4865
Götabergsgatan 20 lgh 1201, 411 34 Göteborg
+46737601722
http://www.facebook.com/josefin.vonzeipel
* Ellen Lindhagen
19880123-1468
Verkmästargatan 15 lgh 1102, 754 36 Uppsala
+46708136147
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1379865168
* Sara Östebro
19861111-4987
Värmegatan 2 lgh 1302, 418 32 Göteborg
+46702096586
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=770038142
* Mathilda Bördin
19880524-5621
Kungälvsgatan 6 A lgh 1201, 416 69 Göteborg
+46735921266
http://www.facebook.com/matilda.bordin
* Kaisa Liisa Strand
19840505-0447
Orustgatan 13 C lgh 1002, 414 74 Göteborg
+46705539350
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=692967653
By Jingo these gals are starting to call out to each other as the info net herds them into smaller and smaller corners.
SCUM manifesto is in libraries at Monash University and Curtain University.
Monash will be coming under some pressure. Curtain I can’t really do anything as it’s in Perth.
From the Facebook event page of “Protestläsning av SCUM” / “A protest reading of SCUM”:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=140302336074653
Google translation:
“Call for all theater active women in Sweden:
Currently playing SCUM Manifesto by Valerie Solanas in TUR Theatre in Stockholm.
There are many women who are happy about this. It is a show where the woman is the norm.
That is not the case in our actual reality turned out quickly. On the net, it has sparked a veritable perfect storm blog. Hatred, threats and personal attacks made against the female employees in production. Some of the injured (NOTE: the original text means emotionally wounded, not physically injured / Inevitable Towers), men’s objections to production: The taxpayers should not fund or extreme feminist art. That young men can be damaged by to watch the show and so on. TOUR Theatre has been forced to have friends who guards the theater and police surveillance during the show. This Monday, 21/11, a group of women demonstrating against the show outside TUR theater under the banner Enough!
There are many women who are tired of being threatened, diminished and intimidated because some men are so afraid of losing their power that they can not even tolerate it played a play-an artistic work, which has a radical feminist message. In addition, we will not tolerate that women are killing threatened (NOTE: what Google is trying to say is “threatened with murder” / Inevitable Towers) or intimidated into silence because they are working with such a production.
On Monday 21/11 at 19.00, we encourage you / your every theater active women to read the SCUM Manifesto at the theater right now you are active. In protest against attacks on the freedom of art and to an increasingly anti-feminist and women’s hostile social climate. In protest against the threats of violence against women who express feminist. In solidarity with the women who are now threatened TUR theater. In solidarity with our sisters who fight to live, work and create freely in this male-dominated society.
We who have taken the initiative’s theater and professional women who are not related to the TUR theater. Connect you! Organize a reading on Monday! Make it simple: Be in the foyer, make a relay reading many together.”
Original text:
“Uppmaning till alla teaterverksamma kvinnor i Sverige:
Just nu spelas SCUM-manifestet av Valerie Solanas på TUR-teatern i Stockholm.
Vi är många kvinnor som blivit lyckliga över detta. Det är en föreställning där kvinnan är normen.
Att så inte är fallet i vår faktiska verklighet visade sig dock snabbt. På nätet har det utlösts en fullkomligt veritabel bloggstorm. Hat, hot och personangrepp har riktats mot de kvinnliga medarbetarna i produktionen. Några av de kränkta männens invändningar mot produktionen är: Att skattemedel inte ska finansierar extrem eller feministisk konst. Att unga män kan skadas av att se föreställningen osv. TUR-teatern har tvingats ha vänner som vaktar teatern och polisbevakning under föreställningen. Nu på måndag den 21/11 kommer en grupp män demonstrera mot föreställningen utanför TUR-teatern under parollen Nu räcker det!
Vi är många kvinnor som tröttnat på att bli hotade, förminskade och skrämda på grund av att vissa män är så rädda att förlora sin makt att de inte ens kan tåla att det spelas en teaterföreställning-ett konstnärligt verk- som har ett radikalt feministiskt budskap. Dessutom tolererar vi inte att kvinnor blir mordhotade eller skrämda till tystnad för att de arbetar med en sådan produktion.
På måndag den 21/11 klockan 19.00 uppmanar vi dig/er alla teaterverksamma kvinnor att läsa SCUM-manifestet på den teater ni just nu är verksamma. I protest mot angreppen mot den fria konsten och mot ett alltmer anti-feministiskt och kvinnofientligt samhällsklimat. I protest mot hoten om våld mot kvinnor som uttalar sig feministiskt. I solidaritet med de kvinnor som nu blivit hotade på TUR-teatern. I solidaritet med alla våra systrar som kämpar för att få leva, verka och skapa obehindrat i detta mansdominerade samhälle.
Vi som har tagit initiativet är teaterarbetande kvinnor som inte är kopplade till TUR-teatern. Anslut er! Organisera en läsning på måndag! Gör det enkelt: Var i foajén, gör en stafettläsning många tillsammans.”
This is just typical. They take the work of a genocidal man hating woman, who attempted to murder Andy Warhol, turn it into a play, make videos that incite violence, murder, hatred, just as their whole movement does…..and they are the victims.
You can see this same shit all the way from top to bottom of the women’s movement. Victimizing men, and claiming they are the victims when opposition finds them. Just like the wife or girlfriend who yell, abuses, screams, hits, and throws things at her partner, then if their partner pushes them aside to escape, or even raises their voices in opposition…..domestic violence….male oppressor. It’s no wonder the whole movement is like this because most individual women are like this now.
Or to put it bluntly; incite primitively motivated hostility against males and then make doe eyes, crank out the tears and play innocent little girl, if anyone moves to hold them accountable.
It connects directly to the drive to protect females and is therefore, an incredibly effective game. But, it is a primitive and violent game and must be discredited and prevented somehow, if humans are ever to be truly civilized.
Hell, I was arrested for pulling my motorcycle helmet away from her, while I was running away. Because that’s what beaten girlfriends do – prevent you from leaving, and then call the cops without a single injury on their body.
I guess it’s only violence if it’s done against a woman. This group is just a more literal example than the ‘ambiguous’ groups here.
Ambiguous: try and get a blue-pill man to read a primary aggressor law, and understand what is meant by the language. They’re good at couching their hatred behind forked tongues. This group is saying the same thing, without the obfuscation.
These fucktards will throw anthing at the wall and see if it sticks: Manifesto of THE SOCIETY FOR CUTTING UP MEN is… wait for it- ART.
What a waste of food.
Don’t you sometimes get nostalgic for those artistic days of The Inquisition?
It’s not art, cunt. It’s not art, and you’re not artistic.
“Don’t you sometimes get nostalgic for those artistic days of The Inquisition?”
What was the name of that Spanish performance artist again?
Ah, yes, Tomás de Torquemada!
History books have taken his works totally out of context.
Lots of traffic from Sweden at this point in the late evening Eastern Standard Time. A little trouble sleeping?
hehehehe
Well, well.
One mention and they scurry like rats from 8 cities down to 0. Classic.
This guy might have an answer
http://www.thailawforum.com/blog/friday-video-roundup-three-videos-to-watch-now
SCUM GBG
SCUM GBG is a group of safe, frifräsande, cool,
independent women’s women. The group was formed during
drama studies at the University of Gothenburg.
The show was SCUM group’s final project and
was played for the first time in June 2009.
SCUM GBG is growing, SCUM GBG expands. In your brain.
More and more each day. This year we will release the bomb.
The show SCUM began as an artistic and conceptual
experiments with no restrictions, free for Valerie Solanas
SCUM Manifesto. It continued as a single movement, in ourselves and in
audience: some were thrilled, some amused, some very angry.
With the rapid pulse and a direct address conveyed the uncompromising
that the text takes. Light, motion pictures and choreography creates strong
visual scenes. A allkonstverk, a nice show, an attack.
It’s about to get carried away, to release their fears to tread
on any toes. We are convinced that gender hierarchy restricts people
and that in a truly enlightened world, the individual will be able to choose
their properties, regardless of gender. The male norm will be dead.
Our artwork is a presentation of a text that will have you
think clearly. Everything you thought you knew before was just lies and
propaganda.
http://scumgbg.wordpress.com/about/ google translate
and
Scum Manifesto – as a high school performance
SCUM Manifesto by Valerie Solanas is a violent attack on masculinity. The men are accused of having made the world a shit place. Solana line up all the men are obliged to: war, violence, money system, imagination, ugly buildings and more. She puts forward the thesis that men are biologically inferior to men and that it is the foundation for all problems.
Why do we do now Solana’s text to the monologue of high school?
We see this show as a hard-boiled, bizarre, humorous dryer, not an educational lesson on gender. Art and theater option is to play with the allegations and take them to their extremes. This text takes many claims to such an excessive level that the audience is forced to own reflective.
We want to raise questions about gender and gender roles. In today’s society there are plenty of sober, intellectual theories and discussions about sex and gender roles, and more educational theater.
We believe that it is easy to miss many young people in it too doctored and intellectual, and therefore sought a text that draws its claim to such an extreme level to which audiences are forced to question what is said, and the next stage questioning by the values you reacts.
Theatre Art houses a fantastic opportunity to shape a text. When the text meets portrayal created something new. It’s not a lecture, a lecture, or reading, but it becomes art. The configuration can provide text warmth, humor, nuances. Through the portrayal can be the story of man also be a story about people, about our age ideals of patriarchal structures and above all about daring to rebel against them.
To come and see this show.
We recommend that teachers come and see the show before you take with your students here. That way you can decide if it’s something to suit your students and you can also prepare a subsequent discussion with the class.
When we play SCUM Manifesto for high school students made up the show into two parts. The first part is the monologue, and the second part consists of a discussion of what we have seen. What values are presented in the show? What values do we learn from our upbringing? Are there differences between men and women? Why is that in this case about? Are there things girls and guys are not allowed to do because of their gender? Do we want to change the world? Why? How? mmmm
If teachers want to continue the discussion in class time, we think it is a very good idea. Then we have teaching material that deposits SCUM Manifesto in context, showing the ideas that male thinkers have had on women throughout history and how this has shaped our own thinking. We have also proposed additional issues that may form the basis for interesting discussions.
Welcome to a provocative and loving imagination!
Audience: High school
Price: 40 SEK. pr. ticket
Book your ticket email to info@turteatern.se
About Us
Theatre Without Reactionaries seems an experiment-filled, cross-border and political theater for children, youth and adults. We want to be a theater without conventional boundaries, where the high and low are mixed and where our strongest guiding principles is lust, disrespect, and love.
Turteatern has since 2008 been led by the artistic leadership troika Nils Poletti, Carina Ehrenholm and Erik Holmstrom. Together with the executive director Louise Rich and technical manager Daniel Vegerfors, this theater’s core. The Board remains as before with Robert Sjöblom, Marie Ahl, Mia Benson and Lewis Ore Crona.
Carina Ehrenholm Artistic Director
Erik Holmstrom Artistic Director
Nils Polettis Artistic Director
Louise Rich manager
Daniel Vegerfors CTO
Lisa Ewertson ticket and ölkafeT
Alexander Nielsen ticket and ölkaféT
Ulpu Saali caretaker
Ensemble 2011-12
Mia Benson, Lucas Krüger, Asta August, Matilda Nyberg, Albin Werle, Marta Andersson-Larson, Nils Granberg, David Sigfridsson, Py Huss-Wallin, Jonas Nilsson, Mika Oijens, Andrea Edwards, Helena Sandstrom, Karin Bengtsson, Mary Ahl and Robert Sjöblom.
Production
Mark Granqvist, Lena Lindgren, Jonna Bergelin, Agnes Kent, Malin Aversstad, Olle Jernberg, Janne Tavares, Helena Granström, Stefan Johansson, Anne Hell Andsjö
Turteatern supported by
National Arts Council, Stockholm Culture Administration and Stockholm County Council
Turteatern, Lågskärsvägen 13, Subway Kärrtorp | 08-659 89 00 | info@turteatern.se | PO Box 6033, 121 06 Johanneshov |
One of the feminists involved in the recent SCUM activities, Athena Farrokhzad, attempting to justify terrorism:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article13952706.ab
http://resources0.mynewsdesk.com/files/53c06da6c8c61fb48368e1095abe9e48/resources/ResourceHiresImage/thumbnails/athena-farrokhzad-foto-andrea-porcella_new_medium.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=647112131&sk=info
For some reason, I can’t get Aftonbladet to translate and it’s 07:02 over here. I have been working this all night and need to get some sleep, but here is a “manual” translation of the part I am referring to:
“It did not matter how much I tried to explain that the violence of the rulers, cannot be compared with the counter-violence of the oppressed.”
She also has some issues about the fact that Turteatern tries to downplay the serious political message of SCUM by calling it parody / satire.
JohnnyKarhinen, you terrify me. You are a pup standing amongs wolves, and you terrify me.
Not because you were a lap dog (these feminists sure are strong, independent and smart – all the tech and sound credits are to men) to those in this play. Nor because you clearly have thrown yourself into the wolves’ den in spite of merely being a lap dog in this macabre affair while they hide behind the aulaeum. No, you terrify me because of your tepid, resigned reaction to all of this. You terrify me because you show that it’s possible to dehumanize someone without even a threat of shackle or danger of whip.
You are a shade of a man. I can’t imagine there is much left of your soul.
The wolves are hungry, Johnny.
Johnny K. did not show up here for the sport of it. He showed up only because he felt a great pressure to do so — because not doing so was not an option.
Let that speak for itself, eloquently.
Looks like we have some of the Östebro klanswomyn in our presence. Göteborg, Vastra Gotaland.
Welcome, brain-eating shitscum.
I normally laugh at others not being “4real” enough, but I think I reached my limit upon watching this video.
It’s not as bad to see a video of someone who is actually shot and killed. Even if there’s more violence. This is because something like that is not intended as art. There’s no pretense of romanticization.
But here, when every last detail can be controlled, when a subtext can be presented…this is what’s chosen? This is what is considered to be of importance about life? What does that imply about the values of the creators?
Everyone here is drawing their own conclusions and they are all similar.
Statement 1) “SCUM Manifesto is not to be taken literally, it’s satire, the author was not credible, etc. etc.”
Statement 2) We are disciplines of SCUM Manifesto and exalt its contents; we form a cult with it as our core text.
Definitive doublespeak. Lying, scheming trash.
Oh, isn’t that cute? The little dears are licking up the brains. That’s probably about the closest they ever got to an idea.
Boy, I sure can’t wait to get married to one of these lovely creatures.That way I can sleep with a gun under my pillow and field test my new anti-castration jockwear.
Sick! Twisted! Disturbing! Offensive! With all due respect to most of the citizens of Sweden, is this where they send the crazy people?
Most artist are proud of their work, and would welcome media attention, whether good or bad. Why would it be that these people are afraid of publicity?
Elin Danielsson has now hidden information, previously available on her Facebook profile.
This includes her being a student at Göteborgs Universitet (www.gu.se, english version at top right corner) and the “inside joke” about assisting Johnny Karhinen in the genocide of male infants, children, teenagers, adults and the elderly.
How bout blitzing the Swedish embassies in your countries?
Embassy of Sweden
5 Turrana Street
Yarralumla ACT 2600
Dear Ambassador,
I am writing to alert you to video posted to the popular website Youtube , originating from your country and produced by and acted in by a group of feminist students.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJjKJ-_d4YQ
The only message that anyone can derive for this video is that it is a call to feminists to engage in murder of men purely on the basis of their gender, and that such homicide should be celebrated by orgasmic dance. The catch phrase concluding the video “do your part” , SCUM ( Society for Cutting Up Men).
I would like to think that a civil and equal society would not condone such abuse of freedoms of speech, by allowing this hateful content to be seen as originating from it. Further I believe such persons would be in breach of domestic and international treaties and should be subject to charges, due process of law and appropriate punishment in relation producing and distributing this video.
Perhaps of greatest concern is the suggestion on some internet forums where this video is currently being discussed that the video has in fact be promoted and encourages as part of “education” within your country. If this indeed is confirmed to be the case, then there are a growing number of men in many countries around the world who will begin lobbying their governments to sever diplomatic ties with Sweden.
I trust you might give this matter you most urgent attention.
Yours sincerely
Dr Greg Canning
Just stamped the envelope. Great suggestion Doctor.
First time in my life I felt ashamed of being a Swede. I was as chocked as you when I saw the video.
It’s an outrage – I don’t accept it and neither do my friends or family. I would only ask that you don’t judge all of us (as some seem to have) from what a group of extremist feminist do.
BR
Jan
I know I haven’t judge all Swedes Bass and I hesitate to take you to task as my “activism” is banal at best save a few donations but may I ask are you located in Sweden and if so are you working the front lines in your country to publicize this blatant hatred of men and the destructive influence that feminism has caused in Scandinavia?
I usually don’t care about these sorts of issues. Never really felt personally affected until recently. Always believed (and still believe) that equality is something we should strive for. I think the concept next to impossible to achieve and there will always be places were one sex is at an advantage.
To take a recent example; my little brother just got his first grades from school. Hes 13, a bit shy but smart all around and performs well on tests (B’s and A’s). Apparently he got a D to C average.
My little sister, who’s 15, I know is an average student gets straight A’s without even really caring about it.
The grade-discrimination against boys during school is horrible and it makes me sad. Especially when I see my little brother on the verge of tears, wondering why his teacher only gave him a C in math when he scored best in his class on all the tests. Wondering what he could have done better, wanting feedback but getting none.
Lastly, to answer your question. Yes I am from Sweden. From Gothenburg even. I have made colleagues, friends and family aware of the issue throughout the day and have spent (maybe too much) time on the forums reading about it instead of working…
I have just UN-approved a comment which included the statement “People like this need to die.”
The author still has commenting privileges, however, further calls for killing will result in the ban hammer without warning.
The video has now been made private, after more than 30 000 views.
Except that we also have it.
Score another win, though. Every time AVfM puts one of these cockroaches under the spotlight, they scurry under the fridge.
But we are the boys scouts of the MRM. Always prepared. Look for a new version of that video to come out soon, this time with appropriate credits.
I’m wondering if there was ever an age limit on the original video. I’m also wondering if anyone’s ever seen a comparable video at YouTube that advocates murder/genocide. I know that no one in my family has.
Their names is: Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bordin, Kaisa Liisa strand
Kaisa Liisa Strand lives in gothenburg and studies at the Gothenburg University(GU)
Here is a link of the clip on youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQSOlF9ZZM
I write again when i checked up more info.
Here is a link of SCUM and all the actors:
http://teaternu.se/scum.htm
Actors: Josefin von Zeipel Segerberg, Elin Danielsson, Ellen Lindhagen, Sara Östebro, Mathilda Bördin, Kaisa Liisa Strand, Ia Olsson, Anna Rubin, Emma Örn, Patrik Boström, Johnny Karhinen, Niklas Ångman, Maja Östebro, Isabelle Oldenqvist, My Persson, Kajsa Poidnak, Mathias Kedfors, Rasmus Pohl Östebro, Magnus Lindberg, Joan Sundin, Daniel Jansson och Gustaf Söderling.
Yes. To clear up a possible misunderstanding: there is no ‘SCUM Theatre’. The play was put on by amateurs through ‘Teater Durken’. Info on this theatre can be found here.
http://atrvast.se/durken.html
They’re affiliated with ATR, an association of amateur theatres. They claim they do not get government grants as so many other Swedish theatres do.
http://www.atr.nu/
Perhaps someone’s already linked to this. Watch this 12-part two hour documentary (English subtitles) if you think the SCUM video was bad. You’ve barely scratched the surface.
http://www.youtube.com/user/figaropravda
Samantha, I love that you reposted this documentary (which has been deemed biassed by the SBC, something to think about one way or the other). I have watched through the whole thing, both of them, a few months ago and I could not be more disgusted. A must see for every Scandinavian.
This is horrible. But I see an opportunity in this to bring our movement forward:
Even if Hexor has already identified them correctly, advertising this 1000usd reward could have generated a HUGE amount of publicity, as there is no mistake to how illegitimate this call for genocide is. It will receive attention for being almost fictionally horrid and having a 1000usd reward.
The effects this may have would be:
-enlightening the general public of the fact that men CAN be the victims of female violence
-increasing traffic to the avfm- and affiliated websites
-putting a light on the radicalisation of feminism
-maybe even get attention on national news in less feminist countries
I would like to suggest a social media campaign utilising facebook, twitter, and image-boards like 9gag.
Now we have to prepare for another opportunity. May i recommend having a document available on the website for events like this, which can be referenced to describe effective courses of action for online activists in similar events. They would take the form of checklists or actionplans and will both arm and organise the MRM’s affiliates. This will multiply our profitting from radical feminism, so we can undermine mainstream feminism by association.
We have plenty of NAWALT-arguments ready. We need to take the offensive and create an opportunity to use them. They are very convincing, but are now just sitting there.