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13 reasons it’s unlucky to be male

November 19 is International Men’s Day: a time to promote male role models; to celebrate men’s contributions to society; to focus on men’s health and well being; to highlight discrimination against males; and to improve gender relations and promote gender equality.

As someone who wants both my son and my daughter to flourish across all areas of life, I am frequently reminded that our society and media do a particularly poor job of highlighting and addressing areas in which males face disadvantage. Thankfully we have women’s offices, ministries and NGOs working tirelessly to improve the areas in which women still fare poorly. This is not the case for men.

We seem to have a cultural blind spot around men and gender politics. When a man has a problem, it is frequently seen as his own fault, whereas women’s problems are more often attributed to others or to society. For example, we hear that men are to blame for their own poor health (“men don’t go to the doctor”), whereas young women’s high levels of eating disorders are blamed upon the cultural pressure to be thin.

The portrayals of men in modern day media are often negative – as violent murderers, wife bashers, sexual abusers, deadbeat dads, and bumbling idiots – even though, in reality, only a small proportion of men act out these roles and behaviours. This compounds the lack of compassion for men’s issues.

Our society often assumes that ‘men have it good’ and only women carry the burden of gender-based disadvantage. The evidence strongly contradicts this. Here are 13 areas in which men and boys need our help. I would ask that you picture an important male in your life as you read them – be it your son, brother, husband, best mate or father. Many thanks to Glen Poole from the Men’s Network in England for the idea for this article.

1) If we want everyone to live longer, healthier lives, we must address the appalling state of men’s health. Males have much higher illness, injury and death rates and die almost five years earlier than females, yet public research funding for male health is less than one-third of that for female health. National health expenditure is one third higher for females than for males. The problem is not that resources have preferentially gone to women, but that health service provision has been less than adequate at identifying and addressing the health needs of males. Health services in many instances serve women and children well but men poorly, in terms of access, availability, suitability of service delivery environments and service delivery methods (men are greeted and treated from a female model of service delivery). Health promotion messages aimed at males are poorly targeted and often demeaning or derogatory. Until 2010 Australia had no male health policy or longitudinal national male health study.

2) The health of boys also needs attention. After the first year of life boys have a death rate 35 percent higher than girls. In all areas of health status (death, disability, handicap and illness), boys fare worse than girls. Generally, more boys than girls have mental health problems, including conduct disorder, disruptive or antisocial behaviors. Young boys are the predominant reported victims of physical violence, emotional abuse and neglect from adults and carers. There is no secondary school testicular cancer self-examination component of sexual health education for boys despite the fact that incidence rates of testicular cancer for males aged 15 to 39 are more than double the rates of cervical cancer in females of the same age group. Up to one in seven boys experiences child sexual assault before the age of 16.

3) The male suicide rate is a national disgrace. 1,814 males killed themselves in 2010: more than the entire road toll. Divorced men are three times as likely to commit suicide as any other group.

4) Men are raised to be disposable. We socialise boys to take more risks and place a lesser value on their health and safety so that men will take on the dangerous but essential jobs: firefighting, logging, heavy trucking, construction, mining and the military. In a gender-equitable society we would raise both our sons and daughters to share this work. In Australia however, the most deadly, dangerous, unhealthy and risky work is carried out overwhelmingly by males, and the highest occupational health risks, mortality rates and disability levels are experienced by poorer men. More than twice as many males as females experience work-related injuries and illnesses, and over ninety percent of work-related deaths are males. Australia also remains a signatory to the international convention exempting “able bodied males” between 18 and 45 from the ban on forced labour. We hear a lot about the “glass ceiling” when it comes to women’s employment but very little about the “glass cellar” when it comes to men’s.

5) Men are more likely to be homeless. Males are one third more likely to be homeless compared to females, and twice as likely to be sleeping rough (homeless).

6) If we want everyone to live lives free from violence, we must address violence against men. The overwhelming burden of disease from violence worldwide is born by males. Men make up three-quarters of suicides, two-thirds of homicides and three-quarters of war-related deaths. In Australia, young men are three times as likely as young women to be victims of violence, however, there are no public health campaigns to address this serious issue. Men make up one third of victims of family violence, however there are barely any support services for these men, nor treatment services for abusive women. Some argue that because men are most often assaulted by other men, the violence they experience is somehow less important. However, it shouldn’t matter who the perpetrator is. Talking about the gender of the perpetrator diverts the conversation away from addressing the needs and experiences of male victims of violence. We don’t trivialise the experience of lesbian victims of domestic violence in this way by saying “but lesbians are most often assaulted by other lesbians.”

7) If we want to give every child the best possible start in life, we must look at the way schools are failing boys. Fifty percent more Australian females than males graduate from our universities each year. In NSW, the difference between boys’ and girls’ average Tertiary Admission Rank is almost 20 percent. Boys have significantly lower levels of achievement in literacy than girls, are significantly more disengaged with schooling, and drop out more often. They report significantly less positive experiences of schooling in terms of enjoyment of school, perceived curriculum usefulness and teacher responsiveness. Boys are subject to more disciplinary actions during schooling, are more likely to participate in subsequent delinquent behaviours, alcohol and substance abuse, and during adolescence, are 4–5 times more likely than girls to suffer from depression and commit suicide. Boys are nine times more likely to be referred to pediatricians for behavioral problems, including Attention-Deficit Disorder.

8) There is a critical lack of male teachers. The proportion of male teachers is at a record low and continues to fall. In 2011 just 30 percent of all full-time equivalent teachers were male: 19.3 percent in primary schools and 41.8 percent in secondary schools. Males make up 2 percent of preschool teachers and 4 percent of childcare workers. The lack of male teachers may be a strong factor behind the high dropout and low achievement rates of boys. With so few male role models and mentors it’s no wonder that boys disengage.

9) If we want to ensure that every child has the best possible relationship with both parents, we must remove the barriers separating fathers from their children. Fathers are removed from their children against their will and through no fault of their own. The majority of fathers are not granted reasonable access after contested legal proceedings costing thousands of dollars. Many fathers are advised not to proceed with custody applications in the first place. False accusations of domestic violence or child abuse are not infrequent in attempts to ensure custody of the children. Non-custodial parents, usually fathers, are then subjected to a system that forces them to pay “child support” without any system to make sure the money they pay for the benefit of their children is actually used for such. The system then refuses to enforce their ability to see their own children and the children’s ability to see their parent. Parental alienation, whereby children are taught to dislike or fear the non-custodial parent is also not uncommon.

10) There is an epidemic of fatherlessness. Of the five million children in 2009–10, 864,000 (17 percent) lived away from their father. Of these children, 48 percent saw their father at least once per fortnight, while 24 percent rarely saw their father (less than once per year or never). Almost half never stayed overnight with their father. In 2009–10, there were 366,030 non-resident fathers. Research from the USA shows that violent crime, drug and alcohol abuse, truancy, teen pregnancy and suicide all correlate more strongly to fatherlessness than to any other factor. The majority of prisoners, juvenile detention inmates, high school dropouts, pregnant teenagers, adolescent murderers, and rapists all come from fatherless homes. The connection is so strong that controlling for fatherlessness erases the relationships between race and crime and between low income and crime.

11) If we want parents to be the best they can be, we must do more to support fatherhood. Until the 1970s dads weren’t allowed to be present at the birth of their own children. Since then the role of the Australian father has changed from sole breadwinner to sharing the hands-on parenting and earning roles with his partner. Fathers are more likely than ever to require time off work to look after their children’s needs but government legislation and workplace cultures haven’t followed suit. Men are still expected to put in long hours and not take time off for family responsibilities. Women may sometimes find it hard to find an employer that gives them the job flexibility to care for their young children, but most men find it almost impossible. Discrimination complaints by men because of their parental status have more than doubled in the past decade. The current inequitable parental leave schemes, favouring mothers, reinforce fathers in the traditional ‘breadwinner’ role rather than supporting them as being ‘hands-on’ dads (which the research shows gives better outcomes for children). Many fathers feel excluded by staff and services that appear to be focused solely upon the needs of mothers. Ante-natal courses for new fathers are currently run at only a handful of hospitals despite the fact that up to 10 percent of first-time dads suffer post-natal depression and in most cases their symptoms go untreated.

12) Males lack reproductive rights. Upon becoming pregnant, a woman can choose to have the baby, have an abortion or put the baby up for adoption. A man has no legal right to choose whether to become a father or even to be notified that he has become a father, even if the pregnancy came about via deception (e.g. by falsely claiming to be on the pill or utilizing discarded or stored semen). Men also lack the range of contraceptive options available to women.

13) We need to do more to protect baby boys from infant circumcision. Each year almost 25,000 boys under the age of four are subjected to painful, sometimes dangerous and life altering surgery without their consent or medical cause. All six major medical societies of Australia have declared that circumcision of newborn males should not be routinely performed. The Royal Australasian College of Physicians has expressed concern that neonatal circumcision may violate human rights. In their statement the ACP disclosed the traumatic nature of circumcision, recommending that parents should be given more complete facts about the procedure. Circumcision has serious risks including infection, hemorrhage, scarring, shock, penile disfigurement, penile amputation, and even occasional death. The complication rate for this unnecessary procedure is estimated to be 2-10 percent. Three Australian states and two territories have laws that protect little girls from this sort of procedure but there exists nothing to protect little boys.

Gender equity is not a zero-sum game: this International Men’s Day, let us remember that looking after men and boys does not take anything away from women and girls. If we want to create a world where each child can grow to fulfill their greatest potential, we must care equally about the needs and human rights of both genders.

This article originally appeared on Men’s Health Australia and at One in Three. It is re-posted here with permissions.

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  • Tawil

    An informative article from Australia. Lot of important points that warrant a slow reading. This fact however deserves repeating:

    “Australia also remains a signatory to the international convention exempting “able bodied males” between 18 and 45 from the ban on forced labour.”

    A shocker!

    • Rper1959

      A shocker indeed, thats one of the new things I have learnt today!

    • gwallan

      It’s worse than that. The conventions mentioned are the International Labor Organisation’s treaties on forced labor. Australia has ratified both treaties. Where both are ratified provisions in the earlier treaty take precedence. Age limits did not exist in the first.

      There is no age control where Australia is concerned. It can conscript any “apparently able bodied male” under the terms of the first ILO treaty.

    • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

      Do you have a link to said article?

  • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

    Amen. Great listing.

    Of course, in reality there would be close to 39 reasons why it is unlucky to be a male.

    Some are obvious and uncontested. Like little and big girls may kick boy’s and men’s shins, and get away with “you must not hit a girl”.

    I think you forgot drugging with Ritalin, too

    And a dozen more. There are too many problems with being a man.

    Some will get me the usual flak because the father’s right people bought into the feminist propaganda and share the same opinion:

    If the boy plays doctor, he will be ostracised, or even handcuffed and arrested.

    If he has healthy sexuality, he risks prison (like for getting a blow job by a girl 2 years younger, Ganarlow Wilson)

    Healthy sexuality with a willing girl requires age check, background check, legal counsel, notarized consent, etc. Girls get away with f.cking anything of any age. Especially of the naturally preferred age (somewhat older)

    By nature, men have sex with women younger then them, so 95% of problems with age of consent (raised by FEMINISTS) are for men.

    Get a lawyer before courting: 34 precautions before risking sex with a woman<

    Male porn is prescribed, often illegal. Female porn (romances) is totally legal. Including the very successful genre of underage or child abuse novels.

    The same for males, even inadvertent possession of a nude page 3 photo of Samantha Fox at age 16, from a British Newspaper from the 70ies is cause for minimum of 5 years in prison.

  • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com
  • Rper1959

    Yes, a concise and poignant summary of how those interested in true gender equity can see both sides of the issues, and encourage a open and respectful debate.

    Something clearly beyond the trainee gender ideologues who conducted a violent protest against a presentation given by Warren Farrell at the University of Toronto, organised by Men’s Issues Awareness at the University of Toronto (MIAUT) a group the protestors believe has no right to even exist because Mens issues awareness is apparently hate speech and they “own” the campus, their slogans “no hate speech on campus” and “off our campus”

    http://counterfem.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/eruption-of-violent-feminism-at-u.html

    • TigerMan

      I only just found out about this protest and I’m so glad you mentioned it here. They are flooding the twittersphere making out that THEY(the feminist protestors attempting censorship) are the victims. ONe feminist tweeter after having made several over the top ad hominem tweets against all those involved in the talk wrote “I’m not gonna lie between the aggression of the police and the misogyny of the folks there I do not feel safe.” Yet in the video none of the attendees is shown being violent indeed one atendee said that they were being physically prevented from getting into the hall by the protestors and it was only the final intervention of the police to break up the human blockade\chain that allowed some atendees to get inside.
      On the plus side events like this indicate the symptom we have long been waiting for – pushback!
      Maybe next time the mens group should simply hold a rally where all are wearing gags over their mouths and carrying simple placards like “All we are saying is Men are people too”. Nothing more would be required to get the message across! :)

    • Aimee McGee

      Which bit of, if you obstruct people going to a public meeting, and cause public disruption, you are going to have the police reacting do these people not get?

      Did I miss the repealing of free speech laws in Canada?

  • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com
  • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

    Can you share my outrage on this  Family pictures of nude baby bath: ruinous child porn prosecution or this  Mandatory 15 years jail for photos of legal girl friend: You Can Have Sex With Them; Just Don’t Photograph Them

    By the way, I understand if you do not want me as a contributor. IF so, please say so.

    But as Paul Elam sounded positive, but never replies my emails, could you just get me some authoring rights here so I can submit proposals. Or can I get some email contact for discussing what type of contributions would be welcome (for example on false rape issues).

    Also, I really did not mean to spam, I think all these links are really related to the topic and relevant.

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      I always express positive interest in submissions to the site. I don’t always feel positive about publication, which is, of course an editorial matter.

      I have attempted, sometimes bluntly, to get some points across to you, to no avail. So let me reword this a little differently, and I hope I can get the message across.

      You give me the creeps. I don’t mean the feminist inspired drivel of Schrödinger’s Creep, lurking around in background of every man’s mind. I mean the real creeps, because I think there is something wrong with you.

      Now it may be that you are an actual creep, or it may be that you have no sense whatsoever about our vulnerabilities or what could possibly constitute a viable focus of attention for a men’s rights website.

      What I know for sure is that your constant attention and concern on matters like “age of consent” laws and now “Cruel child porn laws,” really fucking creeps me out, and I won’t have anyone like that writing for this website.

      Fact is, I don’t want 30 year olds to be allowed sexual access to 13 year olds, regardless of the sex of the adult or the child. And even if I did not have objection to it, which I vehemently do, I am not stupid enough to present myself as an advocate in public touting this shit as a cause célèbre.

      There may be arenas of discussion where both these subjects could get the attention and scrutiny you are looking for. This website is not going to be one of them.

      I looked over your site, and examined your posts here and decided at this point the best course of action was to ignore you, and just hope you could read the writing on the wall and go away quietly, or at least learn to shut up and use some fucking common sense and discretion.

      I see now that was wishful thinking.

      So here is the deal. I think you should make a choice. Join with us and engage in the very difficult and already controversial subjects covered by this website, or not. But do not think for a moment that I will allow you to pollute the environment here and supply our enemies with the opportunity to add pedophilia and kiddie porn advocacy to the list of their already outrageous allegations.

      Think carefully before posting again, HS. My patience is now gone.

      • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

        There is an other important issue. Children’s lives are rife with dangers. Be it Ritalin’s side effects, binge drinking pregnant mothers or obese parents passing on propensity for obesity at birth, reinforcing it with bad examples of food and sedentary life style. Add parental alienation, non-sexual abuse and school bullying.

        None of this is criminalized, though proven to be harmful and even deadly. Nobody gets 15 years in prison for damaging a child for life by smoking, drinking when pregnant or feeding insane unhealthy food.

        So my main point about sexuality is about 17 year olds, also about draconian laws that are, like VAWA, backed by falsified feminist research claims.

        My point is about the need for government intervention with extremely stringent over-reaching laws that cause clear collateral damage. I have nothing at all against fathers that educate their children and keep their daughters under control.

        My main grudge actually is with the distorted facts and manipulative language of feminists.

        But again, I understand your point about not entering another fight against feminism and society, and I try to respect your space as much as possible.

        I would love to know if you are an avid supporter of feminist attempts to increase the ages of consent in Romania (15) and Spain (13) and Germany (16 or even 14) to 18? I also understand if you do not want to comment on this.

      • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

        So here is the deal. I think you should make a choice. Join with us and engage in the very difficult and already controversial subjects covered by this website, or not. But do not think for a moment that I will allow you to pollute the environment here and supply our enemies with the opportunity to add pedophilia and kiddie porn advocacy to the list of their already outrageous allegations.

        I think I clearly join your fight, agree with most topics on this web site.

        I even try to restrain myself, but occasionally when a topic begs my comment, I try to give a reasoned argument.

        Maybe your chiding me and countering me gives you additional alibi against outrageous allegations of supporting sexual freedom of 17 year old children or even younger adolescents. Or the rights of men to watch porn without concern of having an odd 17 year old nude photo in the midst of their collection, which will ruin their lives forever.

        Or even from avoiding to comment on borderline cases like 17 year olds or nude baby photos when changing diapers. I understand you don’t need more enemies and you have fights on enough fronts.

        I understand your concerns.

        You may notice that in my writings a large part is disclaimers that I am not a consumer or perpetrator and that I would never dare to write such things if I were.

        But I always had the fault to act in politically un-wise ways and to bluntly say what I consider the truth.

        • Tawil

          Fuck’s sake man, what’s all this got to do with International Men’s Day? Actually don’t answer that- I’m sure you would find relevance for your pet topic no matter what the topic at hand. Way to kill a thread.

          I guess you had to reiterate your topic twice more after Paul posted because, as you put it, you like “to bluntly say what I consider the truth”. Gee you got us there.

          To be honest you creep me out too – not the topic alone but your fixation with it in particular and your need to talk about it on an unrelated thread.

          • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

            I don’t understand you.

            The topic here is: 13 reasons its unlucky to be male.

            I added a few reasons. Some maybe uncontested by you, like being fed Ritalin as a child, which has serious side effects.

            Some others that maybe I ought not to mention again, like being handcuffed at age 6 for playing doctor with a girl. But they are totally related to the title of this thread.

            And if you want to know what it has to do with international men’s day: repression of male sexuality, of specific expression of male sexuality, from kindergarten to grave. Specifically male sexuality, while female fiction and non-fiction books about child sex abuse are on the top selling list of Amazon in Britain.

            This is the problem with men’s rights. Feminists do not even exclude or attack Scum article authors, Andy Warhol shooters, penis slicers and sleeping-husband-shooters. They band together to invent “battered woman syndrome” while no man in his sane mind would invent a defense for Jack the Ripper, who must have been hurt by women. (to make it clear, I don’t defend him either)

        • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

          Well, I tried. More than once, and likely more than I ever should have. Have a nice life.

  • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

    „ Up to one in seven boys experiences child sexual assault before the age of 16.” – Do you have any evidence to back this claim up?

    I am asking you this because it seem highly unlikely to be true, unless we are talking about the Democratic Republic of Congo and Uganda – where indeed, such figures are indeed both true and frightening (and of course, suppressed by UN and feminist organizations).

    But it seems unlikely to be true worldwide.
    For instance, in Romania, this figure is around one in 35 for boys (and one in 42 for girls). Indeed, boys are more likely to be sexually assaulted before the age of 16 (at least in Romania) but not at all in such high rates.

    • rper1959

      I believe you can find such data here:

      Bagley, C., Wood, M. and Young, L., 1994, ‘Victim to Abuser: Mental Health and Behavioural Sequels of Child Sexual Abuse in a Community Sample of Young Adult Males’ in Child Abuse and Neglect, 18(8), pp 683-697.

      Finkelhor, D., Hotaling, G., Lewis, I., and Smith, C., 1990, ‘Sexual Abuse in a National Survey of Adult Men and Women: Prevalence, Characteristics and Risk Factors’ in Child Abuse and Neglect, (14), pp 19-28.

    • Allan

      There is a lengthy answer to that complex question here:
      http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/index.html

      Many studies, but i.e. the large, on-going ACE Study performed from 1995 to 1997 among 17,337 adult HMO members in San Diego, California found:

      Contact childhood sexual abuse was reported by 16% of males and 25% of females. Men reported female
      perpetration of childhood sexual abuse nearly 40% of the time, and women reported female perpetration of childhood sexual abuse 6% of the time.

      (See: http://www.jimhopper.com/pdfs/Dube_%282005%29_Childhood_sexual_abuse_by_gender_of_victim.pdf)

  • Druk

    “4) Men are raised to be disposable…men will take on the dangerous but essential jobs”
    I don’t think there’s really anything that society can do about this. Men are, for better or worse, biologically set up to do the tougher, dangerous jobs. We can probably do something to lessen the risks they take, but that usually just ends up overburdening those men with dumb regulations that make them take a hit in income.

    • Scarecrow

      All true, but the fact is there is often no alternative but to work in those dirty, dangerous jobs, because men are frequently not welcome elsewhere. Social attitudes and biological “programming” are probably as much to blame as each other for the numbers of men working shitty jobs. Fact is, we can change some things, but not everything…

    • Booyah

      I think its an important point in regards to the percieved wage gap. I would rather work in a child care centre than a mine any day of the week. Feminism itself is partially responsible for their own silly wage gap perception. They have driven men out of lower payed jobs that are more enjoyable even if less fiscally rewarding. Men have been witch hunted out of any industry involving children. He wants to be a primary school teacher but realises its unrealistic in the current social climate and goes off to a well paid dangerous and unpleasant job in mining. Why should he be penalised? Would a woman be witch hunted out of the mining industry? I think not.

      I know there are many other factors in play with the percieved wage gap as well but I dont think we should lose sight of this one.

      • Kimski

        “think its an important point in regards to the percieved wage gap. I would rather work in a child care centre than a mine any day of the week.”

        A huge percentage of the men I’ve discussed this with, would rather take care of the home and kids, than working outside of the home. Only women buy into the lie that working is a priviledge. A lie that has only been constructed so that governments can obtain twice the amount of taxes.

        • cvar

          I’m a stay at home dad. My wife and I talked it out and her career gave far more security and benefits than mine did, so I quit to take care of our daughter. I grew up being told “Nothing is harder than being a stay at home mom” so I was fairly worried.

          2 years later, this is the easiest job I’ve ever had. Sure, diapers smell bad, the hours were rough for a bit and sometimes she’s just plain frustrating. But I get to sit around the house and play with my daughter or do whatever while she’s playing by herself or napping. I’m working on my beard, shirts are optional and I haven’t had to listen to a customer/co-worker whine about things that are their own fault in years. I can’t recommend enough that men consider quitting their jobs to be homemakers. Housework takes up all of an hour and can be done whenever, it’s stupidly easy to manage finances when you have 6-10 hours free time to do it and if you don’t want to do it right then, put it off and play with your kid for a bit.

          Let your woman dredge through the shithole that is corporate work if she wants to. Try not to look to smug when she comes home though.

          • Turbo

            Good for you cvar, you enjoy your daughter and all the experiences that will remain in you heart and mind forever. Your Daughter will remember as well, that is the beautiful thing about it.

            I know what you are talking about. I have never had complete custody of my Daughter but from 0 – 7 years old I had her all weekend every weekend, including weeks at a time on different occasions. Took her overseas twice for a couple of weeks.

            Easiest and most satisfying times in my life. Nobody can tell me that this is a hard task. The more people like you and I that tell the world what a load of bullshit it is saying that the hardest job in the world is being a homemaker, the quicker we can counter their bullshit myth that has for so long been perpetuated.

            Yes, I only have one child, and it would certainly be more work with two or three kids. But do not tell me that being around your children all day and not having to go to work is not a privilege. I would have done it in a heartbeat. it is the height of bullshittery to suggest that anybody should be paid to look after their own offspring.

            And please, this is not to suggest that this role is not important, because I happen to think it is vital, all good parenting is, from Father to Mother. It is vital and mostly it is fun.

            Enjoy your times with your Daughter, I only wish my times had not been cut short by our our corrupt system

      • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

        even if he got a childcare job, he is always in a mine field where an accusation might explode in his face and he be imprisoned for decades. He would be lucky to just be dismissed

    • http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism Human-Stupidity.com

      I understand that efforts are being made, successfully, to raise the wages in cozy female dominated jobs to similar levels as in male jobs.

      I believe that US mail office workers get very similar salaries to the mail delivery guy that walks about in rain and snow and gets bitten by dogs.

      I know for a fact that Australia enforced a major salary rise for women dominated jobs.

      I wonder what will happen if male volunteers dry out for dangerous jobs, once they don’t pay more then office jobs. But due to discrimination in look-pretty shop attendant jobs, males might be forced to take on those dangerous jobs.

  • Verdad

    I am speechless, what a world we live in…

    Yet another article that reminds me of why I love taking the red pill!

  • faroefaxi

    dos anyone know where I can find Dr. Warren Farrell speech. really interested to read it

  • Otter

    Happy International Men’s Day, guys.

  • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F

    OT:

    Guys, are you aware…

    • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F

      …that the comment I’ll make in a moment….

      • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F

        …will be the…

  • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F

    …90,000th for AVfM?

    Congratz to our Paul, and Happy International Men’s Day for the lot of us here and everywhere.

    • Turbo

      Ditto :-) :-)

  • Tawil

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