The University of Toronto last month hosted a speaking engagement by Dr. Warren Farrell, who addressed what he has coined, “The Boy Crisis.” The talk covered growing concerns, at least for those who value the welfare of boys in our society, with subjects like suicide, academic failure and the phenomenon known as “failure to launch.” This is when young men remain living at home past the age of legal adulthood, with no visible path into full autonomy and responsibility.
Campus feminists so vehemently objected to the presence of Dr. Farrell, and to the idea that exploration of those issues would be conducted outside the realm of feminist ideological control, that they staged a protest, which ultimately became violent, and abusive toward the young men who were trying to attend.
A video was made of a clash that ensued between protestors and the police, as well as showing the mistreatment and harassment of the young men attempting to hear Dr. Farrell speak.
One woman protestor in particular was featured in the video aggressively screaming epithets at a young man attempting to enter the lecture.
You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. You’re fucking scum. You are fucking scum. You fucking rape apologist, incest supporting, woman hating fucking scum. You’re fucking scum.
To the young man’s credit, he did not react to the provocation, but simply asked police if there was somewhere he could wait where she would not follow him around and continue the verbal assault.
When the police got him in through the door, the woman continued the tirade on the police officer who got him through.
You should be fucking proud of yourself. These are the fucking men who are going to rape people.
Apparently the woman in the video not only has a license to publicly assail people for exercising their rights to free speech, but she also has a crystal ball into which she can see the actions of future rapists, which of course includes you and me and any other man (or probably woman) who is concerned with the issues facing men and boys.
Her name is Vanja Krajina, and this is apparently not her first interaction with police. She was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit indictable offence during the G20 summit weekend in Toronto in June of 2010.
She was quoted as saying that a Toronto Police Officer told her, “I don’t know why we let people like you immigrate into our country.”
Indeed.
Some of us do not know why people like her are allowed by college administrations to harass their students and abridge their free speech rights, either. But that is precisely what has happened at the University of Toronto, where authorities have proceeded as though the assaults, vandalism and student harassment never occurred.
There is much here that demands better understanding, and it appears as though it will be left up to citizen reporters to find out about it.
This is not the end of reporting on Krajina, on this sad event at the U of T, or on the atmosphere at that school of tolerance for bigotry and violence.
Krajina apparently had a twitter account (which comes up on a Google of her name), which has now been shut down. But there appear to be traces of her in multiple net locations. This should be quite enough for our rainbow coalition of agents to do their work.
And we will continue to do ours to bring all of this to the light of public attention, including her listing on Register-her.com.



































Bloody well done on finding her identity!
I for one will no longer live my life in fear and shame of abusive bigots like Vanja Krajina.
There are plenty more from where she came from.
These hate cultists are trained by professional “change agent” trainers to spread lies which they hope will lead to sufficient social instability to allow their clique of authoritarian control-freaks to take over. In the 60s we had people like Bernardine Dohrn (wealthy violence-promoting marxist), who openly praised Charles Manson’s murderesses as valid agents of change. It is not simple bigotry. It is organized “social justice cleansing” which can be applied to the chosen scapegoat: in this case not a race, ethic group or religion, but to the entire male sex, with an emphasis on damaging boys at an age young as can possibly be arranged.
There will be more of these agents of hatred. The university faculties will make sure of it. That’s very reason they chose to take over the education system (see “cultural marxism”) — to create freaks like this to do their dirty work,
I agree 100% with everything you just said about the Marxist “race, class, and gender” religion of modern, PC academia.
Ultimately they will be agents of thier own destruction, because, once the instability escalates to collapse EVERYONES life is going to suck, and no one is going to be protecting the women of the 99%.
Life won’t be good for anyone, and, while I am sure the media in the New World will be even more full of crap than they are today, and therefore no blame will be assigned, people like this will know that they perpetuated the death of liberty for both men and women.
Of course……….. when that day comes it will
be too late to do anything about it.
Regardless of the odds, a stand has to be made NOW.
Better to fight and lose than never to fight at all……
…….. Besides, its not over yet. There is still a chance that enough people will wake up and start communicating.
Communication is really all it would take, but, sadly there are a lot of forces working against freedom of thought.
I look forward (with disgust) to seeing her in a video promotion for the U. of T. Women’s Studies Department.
The U. of T. must be very proud of their new spokesperson inasmuch as their silence, and lack of disapproval, appears to be a tacit endorsement of her comments made on the U. of T. campus.
What is good about what this woman has done was to show the true colours of her movement. A narcisstic puppy fear-yapping.
She’s horribly horribly insecure, and in desperate need to validation. Evidence: If you see the video that most of us have been linking too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0) notice that she’s always looking at the camera from the side of her eye “Are they watching me? Am I getting attention?”
At first I was angry–triggered, actually, by what is essentially a troll. But on reviewing the video, I’m left with pity for her. She *needs* this. This has got nothing to do with justice or equity for her. It’s plainly an attempt to feel good about her own self. She’s an abandoned child acting out.
I can see why the guy let go of his trigger around her. He did provide an excellent example: by not getting triggered, or at least by not acting on it, he gave her all the rope she needed to show what she was about.
Mayhap this email still in use:
vanjakrajina@hotmail.com
Just tried. Delivery failed. Shame too, cause I really wanted to lay down some scolding.
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
I see then most of these girls have gone underground. If only I could be a fly on the wall listening to their crying about how terrible this is when their womens studies professors try to console them.
Or maybe, these WS professors will berate them for failing “the genocidal cause” so badly?
Either way I don’t care how much it hurts. These sorts of psychosis need a very rude awakening. That is just what the real Doctor ordered!
Great job fellas.
Her pic is going up on my site today too!
Here is my post for yours: http://gloriusbastard.com/?p=1232
In it I demand they email Dr Farrel, and challenge them to write a rebuttal here on this site. It will be interesting to see if and when they do.
I doubt it though. These girls minds have been so wound up down the wrong path, it might take years before they see right again.
Oh well, you have to be careful what you let influence you; and we are all individually responsible for our own actions.
If they come around, and maybe get a chance to see reason; it will be a victory on top of an already explosive victory. If not, we still win.
Got to love that!
Her pic is going up on my site today too!
Mine too.
MRA’s freakin rock!!!!!
You know, normally, I would be against going after someone online like feminists do. The thing is with these chicks is they just happen to be the first hopefully of many feminists to get a taste of their own medicine.
Eventually, I think their bigotry will be in the public eye; and they won’t get off easily. For now we have to “do as the Romans do” and teach these chicas a lesson by “helping” the public get their vision straight.
Again, I pray in the future we won’t have to do this often? I hate how feminists go after men in post offices simply for being unemployed, and unable to pay draconian child support; falsely accused and downtrodden. Yet for once, a feminist or two get a taste of what they do without conscience or forethought every single day they do their “activism.”
Its about time!
I generally don’t approve of the tactic either, but when you’re in a position where everybody and their mother is trying to hush up the whole situation, sometimes you have to scream louder to be heard. This is the case with the MRM in general. Since most media outlets won’t even air anything that doesn’t fit into the mold of the super-radfem ideological mindset, playing clean and fair just isn’t an option.
In my experience it’s bad guys that run away…..I’m really glad they found this one out .
Yeah, every coward I have ever run into usually turns tail; or waits till they get forty of their friends to fight me.
Basically, when they realize that at some point, after a beat down from forty of their friends +typical coward; they never want to run into me again! I usually don’t have any problems.
When you show someone you have somewhat of a crazy streak, and they know you can handle yourself; they think long and hard before doing anything……rash.
Just look at PE, JTO, Dean and crew here write up a storm; and the picture of the storm against the UofT students on that last post. The feminists and government officials in question know they (AVFM) are not going to go down without a fight. You don’t see them doing anything but fawning like **** at the bit crying cause their daddy won’t spare them the inconvenience of working to secure their tax theft.
I got not sympathy for that. When others see you are the same way, they usually look for an easier target.
Let’s keep the pain on and make sure they see that they are no longer in a target rich environment; unless they are as bad as they think. At which point they will have to know it is not chump change they are fighting.
Organizations like SAVE, FnF, AVFM here, and others are making a difference; that is what I want to see. Because someday, I want to play with my sons, and eventually their kids knowing that I don’t have to look over my shoulder that some high school drop out, backed by the authority of a corrupt state, is going to come destroy me and my family because I gave my kids ice cream; or disciplined them the “wrong way.”
No way; I want these foster kid murdering bastards and everyone under that umbrella to get their eyes bugged out by the light of an high powered electron microscope of moral judgement! In other words; I want to FTSU!
And ensure like a Holocaust survivor that no one ever forgets what these feminazis did here, and elsewhere around the globe.
Period.
In keeping with their Marxist script, they just look at us as “reactionaries” and our efforts as “backlash” so in the addled realm of their closed little minds our efforts will just be perceived as meaning that their agenda was right all along.
Let’s face it, if Women’s Studies’ gender-feminist apparatchiks ever stopped to “think” they wouldn’t have a movement – assuming, of course, that they have adequate brains to think with.
These feminist twitter can be comedy material, if they are not written by people with such hate. I am looking forward to see what this person wrote in her twitter. Though I am a bit disappointed because the last bigot is a Chinese (which I am as well), and I never thought feminism have infiltrated our culture this deep. This bigot, seems like a Serbian from her name, also disappointed me a bit because I thought Serbians are one of the last bastion against the modern corrupted thought of the Western World, at least in Europe. So yeah, Feminism and extremism has no boundary.
Speaking of which, I did came across extremist feminist forum in China (yes they gone through the censor and government). If you people are interested I can find some of their stuff and translate it here lo
Those women who we generally consider the best turn into the worst of the feminists (more so than the ones in a feminist country) when they get in touch with feminism.
Just a example. In the feminist forum there a post about a boy got his penis kicked by a female teacher, and resulted in bleeding, the goverment then closed the kinterkarden for investagation. One reply said “素画楼主人 :那为什么男孩只不过坏了条黑蛆,死都没死就停办了?这时就不说威胁政府威信了?可见政府的威信还不如小畜生胯下那条蛆虫 ”
Which means “Why the government closed the kinterkarden, since the boy only had his black maggot damaged, not even dead himself. This time they don’t even say this threaten the image and authority of the government. (translater note: Chiense government rarely admit the bad thing that happens in the news, to make the society appears safe and make themselves the bureaucrat looks good. Hence it is unusual for the government to close down a school which admits there is a mistake). Hence one can see even the image and authority of the government is not as important as the black muggot of this animal / beast .”
Feuillet,
Welcome.
It’s wonderful to see an MRA able to report on matters in China. That makes the A Voice for Men community even more diverse and strong.
Absolutely! Welcome to the fold Feuillet.
Your translation skills could be a great strength to the site’s repertoire. The fact that you translate that allows us to diversify so much, and get the message out to peoples everywhere who need it.
In my travels, I have yet to see an area other than maybe the arctic circle where feminism does not hold.
Antarctica has a feminist stronghold there since there is soo much research going on; at least I am assuming? lol Sorry, OT.
Thanks for coming; and don’t stop bringing us material from the Land of the Dragon. It is nice to see what that thing is up to.
“Whew”! – Sophia Guo
“Wheeew” – Emma Claire
“Wheeeeeew”! – Danelle Sandhu
“Next”! – 100% Cotton
I second Skeptics welcome, Feuillet.
Human rights for men is a global issue.
Fella, I have a couple Serbian friends, and I can tell you that feminist thought is bone deep in eastern europe my friend. Just ask the AVFM Eastern Europe news correspondent. LOL He can tell you all about it I’m sure.
From what I’ve sen there isn’t much feminism in Eastern Europe. The only thing of feminism I’ve seen in EE is FEMA, the Ukrainian feminist organization. That’s about it though.
I hope you are right and I am wrong; but several group think feministic chicas I met from there seemed the same brand of crazy. One thing about them I did notice…….they did marry rich men; but they stayed married, and physically attractive for their mates!
Well you’ll find those types anywhere. However, being from the Eastern Bloc(Bosnia) I have visited there a couple times and I didn’t see any of it. My family members remain pretty “anti-feminist” not explicitly but in lifestyle.
I’ve spent quite a lot of time among academics in former Eastern bloc countries, and I would say there are pockets of feminism. It isn’t quite as pervasive, and there is not so much idiotic and hateful ‘groupthink’ as there is in western nations. But I fear that as the middle class continues to grow in these countries, there will be more and more.
And this Ukrainian Femen? They make me laugh.
More likely Croatian.
Feminism is in every nook and cranny on the planet.
Personally I’m very interested in understanding a bit about the rising of feminism in the land of the rising sun.
I would sponsor your name to AvFM board as correspondent from the far east.
Welcome.
Yes we’d be interested.
Fantastic job, guys.
The thing is, this stuff happens all the time. Verbal abuse by women, I mean. I cannot remember the last time I have seen an organization care enough to hold those women responsible.
Oh, that’s right, because it never fucking happened.
It’s about time feminism got some real competition.
We destroy feminism or it destroys the host just as cancer does.
Darn good job.
But someone take this sack of hatred and misandry off my eyes, I can’t stand to see this filthy disgusting scum of a human being. Shall keep the images turned off in my browser to read the article and comments. Its creator must be ashamed of its actions. Yuck.
m m mummy…you won’t let that bad lady hurt me..?
Will you, m m mummy?
She looks so mean, Mummy…I’m afraid…
If I see that video one more time, I will have to seek counselling. She is very very scary and violent.
Sthcuuuuuuuuum!
The look on his face gets me every single time.
Here’s the website of the impressive young man she assaulted: http://22to28.wordpress.com/
Several of his recent posts have been about this incident.
Vanja Krajina: “You should be fucking ashamed of yourself”.
Take satisfaction that as you are wiped on the doormat of society, the views you hold dear will be publicised to a far greater audience than you ever imagined.
Enjoy your virgin taste of accountability and scrutiny.
Your feminism bubble is bursting spectacularly (thanks to you), but have a Merry Christmas nonetheless!
Easy with the cherry-popping metaphors.
I feel a false accusation coming on.
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!
Incredible work!!!!
OMG…is she an Angry Swede…? Like one of the gals that did the false rape claims against Julian Assange? Holy Cow…I think a real live angry Swede from Feminist Sweden.
Her name doesn’t sound Swedish to me. If I had to guess, I’d say Slavic, eastern European.
Yep…confirmed as Slavic.
Possible pro agitator. May have links to Ukraine or East Euro radfem org that protested in Russia and also Ukraine during Euro cup tourny.
They export radicals to teach others with little protest experience and a lot of fear in how to confront police etc.
Were there any student notices up where she might have been providing pre-event training and direction to the group?
She is a bunny boiler I bet.
She is a bunny boiler I bet.
please explain “bunny boiler”.
This might answer your question scatmaster:
I see now. Crazy bitches are crazy.
Body language and context say a lot about this ones psychology.
She put herself physically very close to therm she was insulting. She also assumed a very direct stance and was enjoying the game. Trying to provoke.
I’ve dealt with this particular type of psychology before and it isn’t pretty.
Think about what this woman is capable and apparently willing to do to random men and what she could do in a relationship. She is liable to get right in your face and accuse you of heinous crimes right to your face just to try to provoke you with a smile on her face knowing that she has got you …and if you do anything about it…she would enjoy calling the cops and destroying your life.
Because she is physically attractive this kind of woman has way too much power…and she certainly knows it.
You are exposing a narcissistic person who enjoys hurting others. Good job.
These kind are dark and they don’t like exposure but they do like attention.
I’m out of my element and I’m not psych qualified. My experience comes from noticing these kind of people in my life and what they are like.
These people are very good at charm and attraction and use that to get people to let down their guard or to dominate them.
An appetite for inflicting psychological destruction.
Like Glen Close in fatal attraction.
Ok backtrack from any link to FEMEN. However, I think you have “outed” a future Mary Kellett. Vanja also has some media connections. She is a selected shit disturber/victim. A pro agitator with good looks and mainstream media links. Definitely a player. No doubt she is burning her cyberdentity.
Definitely a political player. A young enforcer cutting her teeth trying to get a name for herself in that well connected circle. Direct media links to these pro agitators just like Bedry’s “sources” in Vancouver. Interesting.
U Slavic?
Serbia is where Krajina is and more than likely her too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Serbian_Krajina
Krajina is a common noun in Serbian, Croatian, obviously Ukrainian, and a few other Slavic languages. It means simply “geographical region” in some of these, while in others it carries an additional meaning of “region that touches or stretches along the border”, so unsurprisingly there are lots of Krajinas in the Balkans.
“Krajina” is also a common surname in Serbia and Croatia, and a quick google for “prezime Krajina” (w/o quotes) seems to indicate that most people carrying that name live in Croatia.
Ahhh…what do I know…you’re probably right…but she’s still a Swedish Meatball to me….Sing it Chef ;>)
@ Paul
Ooooohhh this is wonderful! You made my day, maybe even my whole month!
@ Everyone who helped ID her
Thank you. You’ve done a great job and should be very proud of yourselves.
@ Vanja
We’ve got your number. Your days of spewing hate and getting away with it are at their end.
Don’t count on that last statement. it seems she fills a niche in various movements as an attack dog. Looking at her previous correspondence with city officials alone in Toronto, and the causes she espouses indicate that that she is a professional activist of a Eco-Marxian bent who enjoys inflicting as much verbal damage as possible.
Good work.
It’s clear this person is a danger to society at large.
Sad to see the student union backing the lies.
The males in that student union need to know how to assert their basic human rights,and not go willingly to an Agenda that would marginalize or destroy them.
That is why I don’t refer to the males in the student union as ‘men.’
They have no sense of self preservation,one day after a court battle,they may see the light.
They must not only be delusional,but deeply frightened.
The next event should have security consultant advice on how to control the front door with private help.
I recommend hiring someone from inside the local police force for this job.
He will let it be known to the local force what to expect in advance.
How appropriate that the article that appears when AVfM is closest to 3 million hits (2,999,961right now).Something very memorable about that.
And Vanja Krajina, we will certainly remember you.
For as long as there is an internet.
Vanja Krajina.
Van Krajina.
Van jina.
Vagina!
Who could have guessed?
Aww the little sweetheart has to own up to her spewed hatred.
Ugly angry girls unite!
What’s even more disturbing is that schools, at every level, stand in “solidarity” with their own failures.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3vgGqlZGGE
Feminism is damn near at the top of that list, if not at THE top of shutting down a free flow of ideas based on their poorly researched and cult like religion.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO.
That’s a great damned video. I’m putting that in my online class.
If you want an explanation for PZ Meyers and his strange little secularist cult, you have it right there in a nutshell.
I couldn’t resist:
Several thoughts.
1) Seeing this, after seeing her in the video, is like a cool soapy shower after a long, hot, sweaty, working, grimmy day collecting a thick layer of scum on my skin. It’s holiday season and budget is tight but it really motivates me to hit the “give” button for AVfM. Good work here.
2) This whole thing we are seeing: a sort of a communal, knee-jerk event by parties calling themselves feminist, to label, in part and in whole, all those so much as expressing concern for the plight of men and boys, let alone those who would take on the title, “MRM” is at least two things.
One, it is a reflexive attempt to silence an emerging movement at the source. To paint the whole thing with one, broad brush: “hate group”, and thereby destroy it while it’s still coming down the birth canal. One knows that deep down, even those doing this, know it’s a tact doomed to fail, but sensing a mortal threat to their own ideology, and having existentially identified themselves with that ideology, they cannot help themselves but to at least give the silence&destroy tact a good go of it. Soon they will learn this won’t work and move on to other methods.
Two, in everything for which there is something, anything like a higher-order response (see “one”) there is also a mass-group level, lower-order response. A lot of people do the things these young ladies have done for a simple reason: they are jerks, and they aren’t that bright.
Always pay attention for this. Gender politics it seems, more than any other politics, seems to be a politics less of the ideology and more of the fact that individuals, who are really jerks, who no one around them personally likes all that much, just find each other, and seem to have found a socially connected guitar string that is the one single string they know that they can strum and harmonize in their jerkishness together.
Yes, the occasional ideologue or rhetoritician comes along here and there, but by and large, we’re mostly dealing with a grand company of jerks.
They are not at all unlike leaders of the KKK movement in the 30s, 40s and 50s. Not really ideologues, not really much for rhetoric, certainly not philosophers or able political theorists. Just jerks.
Once everyone realized what incredible jerks they are, the whole show was pretty much over on racism. No one wanted to listen to their song anymore. It’s like, “dude, he’s a KKK Grand Dragon, why the fuck are you listening to such a jerk?”
Discussion over. Everyone moves on.
I guess if there’s any takeaway it’s just to consider, sometimes you have to argue with them. Gloria Steinem … I’d say you should argue with her if she were going to engage. Betty Friedan, definitely merits the argument (though I bet if she was still around to argue with, she was really quite reasonable, not un-Warren-Farrell like … so you’d probably find Betty finding common ground with MRM in a reasoned discussion); Diane Feinstein–definitely an argue with, and all the way down, there are plenty you can have a reasoned discussion with, that is once they get over the “let’s try to stomp it out and see if that works” phase and they accept that there is no choice but to argue.
But LOTS of others … don’t argue with them. As soon as they give off a “jerk tell”, call it out – let them know, and break it off. “Look, you’re just a jerk, you are not even trying to meet me as a fellow person of good will, you are just a jerk and I’m not arguing with you.” Then, whenever you see others getting sucked in, point out the jerk specifics and make clear, they are like zoo animals, “don’t feed the jerks!”
3) Just kind of wondering too if the University of Toronto is going to be like the Stonewall Riots or the 16th Avenue Baptism Church Bombing of the MRM. Too early to say. Just wondering.
4) Words of caution. I have said before and been piloried for it, but I’ll keep saying … a weakness of MRM is that it will attract people who aren’t wanted.
Think of it this way. We often hear of early feminists, like Betty Friedan herself, who started organizations, then left them, NOW for example, specifically because while the organization was founded as an institution to advocate for the interests of women, it became a magnet for and was overtaken by women motivated only by a hatred of men. Friedan, not so motivated, eventually couldn’t stomach it.
We are not so different. It’s not a vice. The GOP is a magnet for racists. The Democratic party is a magnet for Marxists. I hold neither party responsible for that, the marginalized will always try to use a larger medium in disguise to push their agenda. It’s only a matter of how the parties deal with these fringe elements.
Out there in the world there are marginalized groups that the conventional society has decided it isn’t going to listen to. MRM, and especially here at AVfM and the National Coalition of Men, seems to be constituted of men and women of good will who are sincerely concerned about the troubling social/moral inbalances that have developed between men and women. This concern rightly crosses other ideological divides.
Out there in the world there are men who are, privately, mysogynists. They sincerely hate women. Such men do exist. I’m always surprised when I come across them and a dislike of feminism can be a blind spot so you don’t spot them as easily, but they exist. Hell, some women probably exist who hate women.
And like the jerks I mentioned earlier, they do tend to have “tells”. It comes off sometimes like 3 perfectly reasonable arguments or statements, and then a jibe that gives you a “huh?” or “WTF?” reaction.
At this point my worry is NOT that such people will subvert AVfM. My worry is that the adversaries are looking for the casus belli to crush MRM. The recent AVfM radio about how we’re skipping the rumble seems to be a tacit acknowledgment of the same: give them a reason. They are provoking, provoking, provoking, because they WANT us to respond, or they WANT a Marc Lepine to light up.
Basically, AVfM is working, because it has been able to extinguish such things. Let us keep that up.
5) Lastly, that AVfM radio episode about not coming to the rumble. Two things: (a) the theme and the first 70 minutes devoted to it, were RIGHT ON THE MONEY and (b) after that it flew waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic. Put it this way: I can bring lots of center-thinking people to MOST AVfM radio pieces and they’ll dig it, because there is nothing not to dig. But as soon as you start trying to fill a niche Hannity, Limbaugh and O’Reilly have already filled, much better than you can, they you can be sure anyone not already convinced by H, L & O will not be convinced by you. Put another way, if that was the first episode I’d ever listened to, it would be the last as well.
But coming back to the theme … not coming to the rumble, that is germane to this post.
If this movement picks up, we NEED strong leaders to insist, demand, command, that there will be no violence.
This whole UofT thing is so effective because there was no MRM violence. It basically breaks down like this: violence can have either of two outcomes, (a) you will be crushed (likely), or (b) you will start a bloody revolution. The (b) part harkens back to my early point about undesirables. There are nut jobs who want a revolution. They can kill this movement. The opposition is looking hard for them. The opposition wants them.
For the rest: NOT FIGHTING BACK, remaining passive, non-violent, taking their blows … that is literally the most powerful way you can fight back.
Take their blows. Accept them. Don’t fight back.
Don’t back down. Don’t shut up. Assure them, “we will not vanish”.
But do not fight back. There is nothing more that they want, and nothing more powerful to squelch what is starting here, than if somebody fights back. Leave all weapons in the closet. Your weapons are your bruises and broken bones and the composure you keep while receiving them.
Thanks Augen. Your comments brought to mind a favourite quotation:
‘First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.’
Mike Buchanan
ANTI-FEMINISM LEAGUE
http://fightingfeminism.wordpress.com
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I am sure that everyone here is absolutely destroyed by being called human garbage by a person like you. So unfortunate you forgot to add rape apologists, incest supporters and fucking stthhcum.
And thanks for the follow up link, which indicates that the charges against Krakjina were eventually dropped. Of course, this has no bearing on a single word of the article, which reported that she was arrested and charged. She was, indeed, arrested and charged. So our information is right as rain. But again, thanks for the followup.
And have a wonderful Christmas.
I think it was Andybob who wrote yesterday:
“The way they keep flinging cretins over the battlements is positively Pythonesque.”
Y’all never fail to disappoint. The playground logic and and stupidity is breathtaking.
And very entertaining, I might add.
““The way they keep flinging cretins over the battlements is positively Pythonesque.””
Wait for it.
Do you know what the word “literally” means?! Hahahahahaha! Calling somebody “literal human garbage” doesn’t even make sense, moron.
So…she got off.
How….unusual…
The courts were so overflowing with cases from the G20 protest that hundreds of charges were dropped.
I think some interesting and sensitive shit has been stumbled onto here. I’m trying to put song pieces together but I think Ms. Krajina is a connected professional agitator. These people are being supported by global communist orgs and left wing orgs including the media.
Manufacturing news about protests is quite the business these days and attractive psychos like Krajina oddly get media support and coverage in challenging authority. Interesting.
“you are literal human garbage for harassing these students.”
And what was your precious Vanja doing in that video exactly?
When you see someone from these pages screaming and calling her “fucking scum” over and over straight into her fucking face while she stands there helpless, then you can accuse people here of harassment you worthless cretin.
You know what? I’m in a good mood today, so I’ll leave you this for your trouble:
And it doesn’t matter if the charges were dropped or not.
She still deserves to be exposed for being a feminazi asshole and a coward on top of that for sending a flying mangina like you to fight her battles for her, instead of coming on here and defending herself like the “true champion for equality” that she thinks she is.
Merry Christmas
Sincerely,
Zarathos022
@scotthew “Just checking in to say you are literal human garbage for harassing these students.”
This is a message for Vanja Krajina, right? I appreciate the sentiment, but a) your grammar sucks, and b) this isn’t Vanja Krajina’s website.
@scotthew,
You know I’ve been thinking about it and I think you are right. People who harass others are “literal human garbage” and deserve to be called “idiots”, unless of course they are girls, and especially unless they are girls who are harassing men–for example girls who publically call men who are strangers to them “rapists” and “rape apologists”. In that case they are innocent little angels or at worst wayward souls and they deserve to have you coming to their back when some uppity old website had the nerve to call them out.
Good work. Well done. Ata-boy.
“Just checking in to say you are literal human garbage for harassing these students.”
I am curious why that is.
If they are over 18, why shouldn’t people demanding we pay attention to them, be given the attention they ask for?
It is often the case that young adults ARE the cultural movers and shakers. We need to pay attention to what they are saying.
How old was Mario Savio and the rest of the Berkeley Free Speech and Anti-war movements? Answer: Mario Savio was 22.
Students words have power. Students actions have power.
So why do you diminish Vanja Krajina’s words and actions so?
Is it because she is young?
Is it because she is a woman?
If she was taking these actions AGAINST say, a pro-choice rally, and a feminist website published her name, and basically this same article, would you object to that?
Why?
Um… this article says that she had (has?) a boyfriend. Poor guy will probably end up in jail because of her tendency to accuse people of rape before anything has taken place. Maybe she’ll have dream about him trying to kiss her without first asking if she’d like and accept a kiss. Then she will KNOW that he is “going to rape her”.
Thank you universities, for teaching these mentalities.
Found a picture of him
http://i.imgur.com/X96ih.jpg
Right so now I can add being called “human garbage” as a rape survivor, to being treated like a perpetual monster and cheap, filthy, worthless slut by feminists.
Remind me again about how feminism cares about equality and ending abuse.
Someone please supply this man with a white horse and an armor.
He has truly deserved it.
If we got a spare brain lying around somewhere, that has not been used, please send it in the same general direction.
He truly needs it.
The gleam/glare from his armour would blind him even more.
Scotthew,
You sir are rather tremendous and I ask you to join me as a fellow Wrongarian.
We seek the destruction of intersectionality of white patro-hetero-normality with our ugly-male only membership. Your anti abelist cry is heard by our waiting selves.We hear you and join us as we bow at the glimmering golden female pubenda.
We are scum and we are wrong. We are Wrongarians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_DqqZZAjQ
I have upvoted you.
WHITE KNIGHT TO THE RESCUE!
Be nice to Scott AVfM he’s just trying to protect the wimminz so he can maybe date them.
A litlle pussy on the side wouldn’t be half bad, either.
How is it harassing them exactly? You say “students” like they are a protected species.
These are full grown adults behaving in a disrespectful and disgraceful manner.
And these students, I image are national heroes for harassing multiple people, blocking entry to a peaceful lecture, for spitting on them, cursing at them, etc?
How is peacefully keeping someone accountable for their actions in any way “harassment”?
Another collectivist who is so confused by Alinsky/Marcuse indoctrination that she ends up protesting both corporatist control-freak fascism (G20 globalism) and liberty/human rights (MRM).
Absolutely.
This is the thing that just makes me guffaw. All this concern over globalism and corporatocracy. What the fuck do these morons think is the driving force behind this?
Feminism and cultural misandry are the most significant weapons in the arsenals of governments being used to control the masses and pass draconian legislation that inevitably enslaves everyone.
Her being arrested at the G20 is a comedy side show. It is like arresting a brownshirt for protesting a Nazi rally.
I’ve noticed this as well.
Many times I find myself in agreement with the opinions of The Young Turks/ Russia Today type news.
However, anytime anything even REMOTELY gender related pops up, the scientific and critical critical thinking sections of their brains suffer a complete an utter shutdown and is taken over by a ticker tape dictated by feminist dogma.
It’s absolutely fascinating to observe the hypocrisy, brainwashing, and how deeply rooted the problem actually is.
“Feminism and cultural misandry are the most significant weapons in the arsenals of governments being used to control the masses and pass draconian legislation that inevitably enslaves everyone.”
Exactly. I wish more people would recognize this fact. Especially women.
I think that they think that THEY are using the corporatocracy to further their own ends. Historically that’s not a clever move.
Maybe it’s the extemist racist Tea Party member in me, but I can’t help but relate this to the Union dust-up outside the capital building in Lansing, Michigan – - I mean from a tactical approach of shouting-down, bullying and violence towards anyone who not just opposes them, but might dare to be neutral.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_F3oev06i0&feature=player_embedded
The left is held to a different standard. Feminists, Unions, OWS – matters not. The Right; MRA’s, Tea Party, etc are the ones who are theatening and violent. That’s the perception.
http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?p=66245842658CE1AF&list=66245842658CE1AF&rclk=pti&search_query=yuri+bezmenov&desktop_uri=%2Fview_play_list%3Fp%3D66245842658CE1AF%26search_query%3Dyuri%2Bbezmenov%26rclk%3Dpti&gl=GB
Feminists are just “useful idiots” that are promised a world without men but are being played to help usher in totalitarian government in which they will find they have outlived their usefulness.
Bingo.
Marcuse and Fromm saw natural female angst as a vehicle to co-opt at least half the capitalist population of America into helping them destroy the culture from within. Equality must be enforced by the government – or women will always be the Second Sex (see also Simone de Beauvoir).
This is the feminist I was waiting for to be named and shamed.
Outstanding work!
Awesome work, Rainbow Coalition! Or should I say, Rainbow/FTSU Coalition?
Rainbow coalition………I like the sound of that. There are certain feminist groups out there that would absolutely hate the appropriation of that symbol for use within a men’s rights context. This get’s my upvote and some very serious consideration as to how to make this happen.
Thanks; it’s just my play of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition. I have a feeling we’re going to see a whole spectrum of agents popping up to FTSU.
I would recommend the Chromatic Coalition. Then again, I like the alliteration.
I cannot explain how awesome this is! I have been following the work AVfM has been doing on this matter with an insane level of amusement and satisfaction but haven’t been able to comment. It is final exam week. When I saw that girl’s face just now with the message “we got her,” I had to go do some burnouts in my truck just to settle myself down enough to be able to read the story.
Great job in outing these people, especially this one, the star of a show that will be used in future history classes.
Scary thing is all the Vanjas out there who weren’t born this way and likely have not suffered anything to make them this way, except for their indoctrination. They’ll go out and blend into all areas of society like a cancer.
This thing needs an exorcist.
mmm, all those vanjas – the word kinda has a ring to it…
Excellent work guys! Ms. Sthcuum! has been identified for all to see. Her hatred and outright nastiness is archived for posterity.
Ms. Vanja Krajina,
How does it feel to be held accountable for you actions and speech? I’d imagine it hurts pretty badly because your incredible display of nastiness and hatred will no longer be tolerated by men who believe that boys and men have inherent human rights. Your despicable actions will follow you where ever you go when someone looks up your name on the internet. You really fucked yourself over and then some.
Why did Canada let you in as an immigrant?
Your shit has just been fucked up, courtesy of men who have had enough of you and your ilk.
Why did Canada let you in as an immigrant?
Ask Pierre Elliot Trudeau or his son Justin who is running for the leadership of the left wing Liberal Party of Canada. It is only going to get worse.
So AVfM may handle her
Seriously, it might be a good thing for the world that she went to Canada and got what she deserved from AVfM instead of staying in Croatia and doing harm there unimpeded.
(trigger warning: manboobz idiocy)
Futrelle is unintentionally onto something when he writes that “men’s rights are less popular than horse porn”: it seems true that for something like AVfM to even emerge, it takes a nation of 35M, and one that has endured radical feminism for two generations. Croatians are a small nation, and their society’s spirit is probably still too preoccupied with the damage from recent conflicts to attend to what is a relatively new threat there.
Let me get this straight, she called the young man “woman hating fucking scum”? Doesn’t this make her “man hating fucking scum”?
A lot of us go through a period of rebelliousness when we are young — but this is something far worse than I have ever witnessed. This is a sickening disease to behold – to watch young women show such extreme hatred for fellow members of the human race. To not see how much men have sacrificed for all of us from wars to simply providing for their families. To not acknowledge all of their contributions to this world in which they live. To spit in their face!
How miserable life must be for you, a young woman living what should be the best days of your life so full of hatred. I’d pity you if you weren’t so pathetic. Please get some help before it’s too late. And trust me on this, sister, you don’t EVER want to live in a world without men.
Thank you A VOICE FOR MEN for all of your hard work and for exposing these horrid, bitter women. I do hope they will find their way to a better life — better for all of us.
There is no way to peace, peace is the way. ~
A. J. Muste
Kate Harding over on Jezebel is pretty angry with us I see.
http://jezebel.com/5967923/fuck-you-mras
Oh Kate, if only you knew how long so many of us tried to work with feminists only to get kicked around, lied about, spit on, and told to shut the fuck up. If only you, or your foremothers in the movement, were open-minded enough to have listened seriously a generation ago when Warren Farrell and others first started speaking, maybe you wouldn’t look so aggressively ignorant now…
Oh I love this snippet from her rant: “So fuck you, MRAs. Fuck you for showing up every time women speak, especially about rape and abuse, and trying to make it all about you.”
Since when the fuck did we start to organize and crash pro-women gatherings talking about rape and abuse? Oh, I get it now. She means leaving observations and comments on the net.
Fuck you right back Kate Harding. MRA’s FTSU stings, doesn’t it?
“So fuck you, MRAs. Fuck you for showing up every time women speak, especially about rape and abuse, and trying to make it all about you.”
That quote by that gender feminist is wreaking of hypocrisy. That quote sounds like the opposite of all those “Walk A Mile in Her Shoes” rallies, where all those bad, bad, men are made to put on high heeled shoes and walk so they can be made to be more supportive of women’s fictional oppressions. Those rallies are all about women and try to make some ridiculous, nebulous connection between women’s footwear and rape.
First off, no man is making women wear those dang shoes, women CHOSE to, and if women, or men, are dumb enough to wear them and hurt their feet, then they’re just plain stupid, or devious and manipulative, in the case of women striving for sexual “power and control” through a more sexually alluring posture in high heels. :-/
How is what AVfM is doing here, different from the ihollaback sites that put up anonymous pictures of men and then tell stories of their terrible behavior sans any evidence?
How is what AVfM doing different from what David Futrelle has made into his profession, going around, picking up the comments of commenters and blasting them for it, giving them wide exposure and making their names known if available?
As I pointed out earlier, how is what AVfM doing different from what Jezebel did in not only publishing the racist tweets of TEENAGERS but in calling their schools and alerting their principals to these students behaviors.
How is what these students did at Toronto, different from Mario Savio at Sproul Plaza, different from any student at any anti-war, anti-globalization protest, different from students at the #Occupies?
WHY SHOULDN’T THESE STUDENTS GET THE ATTENTION THEY ASK FOR AND DESERVE?
Oh, you mean when Jezebel did this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/11/09/should-teenagers-have-racist-election-tweets-in-their-google-results-for-life-jezebel-votes-yes/
Or, you mean, like this?
http://www.ihollaback.org/
Oh gosh, don’t you know, it’s COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Because… because… because… Because feminism is about equality! Yeah, that’s it!
Well it does appear to be different in one way: these people took their activism into the streets and into a violent abusive mob that actively suppressed free speech and blocked entry to an event and vandalized property and assaulted people.
Jezebel: the site for privileged white women to revel in their hatred and their hypocrisy.
Ophelia Benson has published something similar
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/12/vigilantes/
This response, cobbled together from my responses here, are in moderation at her site:
…
I am not sure what AVfM is doing that is wrong, can you help me understand
How is what these students did at Toronto, different from Mario Savio at Sproul Plaza, different from any student at any anti-war, anti-globalization protest, different from students at the #Occupies? That is, Savio, in a less media aware era protested, demanded attention, and we gave Mario Savio lots of well-deserved attention for his protests. Around the world student protests get news attention. Abortion rights, against racism, Palestinian rights, women’s rights, … Student protests are newsworthy. The students are identified, interviewed, made into spokespeople, held accountable.
Why are you diminishing these adult women so? Why do you demand protection from them? How is it you are not just patronizing, and protecting them, and declaring them unable to protect themselves and needing a patriarchal protector?
How is what AVfM dong different from the hollaback sites that post anonymous pictures of men and then tell stories of their terrible behavior sans any evidence?
How is what AVfM doing different from what David Futrelle, Manboobz, has made into his profession, going around, picking up the comments of commenters and blasting them for it, giving them wide exposure and making their names known if available?
Here is what David Futrelle says: “…I certainly do approve of holding people responsible for what they say,” http://manboobz.com/2012/11/21/what-mens-rights-guru-warren-farrell-actually-said-about-the-allegedly-positive-aspects-of-incest-note-its-even-more-repugnant-than-that-sounds/
Futrelle believes that, you believe that, Kate Harding believes that, EXCEPT when the people are young women. Why do you allow yourself that sexist position?
How is what AVfM doing different from what Jezebel did in not only publishing the racist tweets of TEENAGERS but in calling their schools and alerting their principals to these students behaviors.
If these women are over 18, why shouldn’t these women, demanding we pay attention to them, be given the attention they ask for?
It is often the case that young adults ARE the cultural movers and shakers. We need to pay attention to what they are saying.
And how old was Mario Savio and the rest of the Berkeley Free Speech and Anti-war movements?
Answer: Mario Savio was 22.
Students words have power. Students actions have power. Students are adults. Don’t discriminate against them.
If these students were taking these actions AGAINST say, a pro-choice rally, and a feminist website published her name, and basically this same article, would you object to that?
If these students caused a riot to keep Rebecca Watson, or you, from speaking at an Atheist Rally, would you publish their names and comments?
I think you’re being sexist Ms. Benson.
As of this time, the comment no longer appears to me that it is in moderation. The comment above at appears nowhere as if Ms. Benson has just deleted it.
It might be fun if others were to repost it, or something similar at her blog, and ask her how can she call herself a Free Thought Blogger if she is deleting perfectly on topic, perfectly polite, perfectly oppositional comments.
I think that article is quite interesting Dean.
According to Kate Harding, because of all the awful, horrible rage-filled MRA’s, some good decent men are getting screwed in the Family Courts. And though they try and try, the poor Feminists cannot help them.
Ok, I will pause until we all stop laughing.
[ 1 hour later ]
Now whilst this is a very piss poor attempt to steal the moral high ground, it is an attempt none the less. About half of this article has a real feel of desperation about it.
A feeling of, “Holy shit, the MRA’s are starting to gain some traction, we better pretend we give a shit about men”
And interestingly, it is the first half.
This article is fascinating.
So according to the writer, feminism is interested in the men’s rights advocated by the MRM, but because MRAs are advocating on their own behalf it’s making it almost impossible for men to get help from feminists?
How does this begin to make any sense? If feminism was actually interested in pushing this agenda, MRAs couldn’t impede it, particularly not by being in agreement.
This is a pathetic and childish lash at those undermining her ideology’s control. This is a matriarch kicking her feet because someone she once controlled with cookies is tall enough to reach the cookie jar.
The sad part is all the idiot white knights posting garbage in there.
“Kate Harding over on Jezebel is pretty angry with us I see.”
http://jezebel.com/5967923/fuck-you-mras
Gee, I wonder how angry she’ll be when she’s told, “Get used to it.”
– four little words I love to say to raving, irrational, nonsensical gender feminist, ignoramuses who react badly to the MRM.
Cumbria@ Thank you A VOICE FOR MEN for all of your hard work and for exposing these horrid, bitter women. I do hope they will find their way to a better life — better for all of us.
I second that THANK YOU to AVFM for all they do.
Thank You each and everyone for sharing the AVFM Man Cave warmth and shelter of truth and justice with us female refugees from the harem tent clutches of feminism.
Those “Christian” and “Traditional” women’s sites are just as sick and insidious “wolve-ettes in sheep’s clothing” man haters. Plantation mistresses vs. suffragettes – they’ve all the same bigots.
I appreciate and respect the need for Men Only spaces( and God knows this is the best one known to mankind)…but AVFM is the only place to be for Stand Up women.
And this place is all the better for having you here working beside us. All of you.
Well done on identifying this beauty.
Well done, guys — this individual was the worst of the bunch by far. What I like about this direct action is that it imparts the explicit message that intoning hatred against men and boys contains real world implications. At the very least, their real world identity will forever be contaminated by an undertow of questionable intent; a concomitant electronic clustering that will follow them like a real world criminal record.
These people are beyond despicable and should be fucking locked up in my opinion. The white knight in me is suffering from EXTREME compassion fatigue.
This is where the rubber meets the road, people; AVfM has show itself more than up for the challenge. The significance of this should not be taken for granted. The significant growth of the MRM of late could have easily translated in a ‘watering down’ of the message – you know, to ‘win hearts and minds, etc.’ It is to your credit, Paul, that you did not guide AVfM down that fork in the road…
Gender feminism & Women’s Studies
FTSU – just because they’re full of it.
She has no conscience and is not capable of empathy. She enjoys hurting men and probably women too. She won’t likely change.
She won’t like exposure. You’ve got evil on film.
Over the 3 MILLION HITS mark today!!
CONGRATULATIONS AVfM!!!!
The Times They Are a-Changin’ !!!!
Now this is the one I really wanted to see exposed, and there’s no doubting it’s her. Brilliant work, whoever behind the scenes had a part in revealing her identity.
The surname sounds of eastern European origin, maybe from Serbia or Croatia, I can’t be precise even after my research. However, an outstanding result!
Serbia or Croatia, the area where not so long ago 10,000 boys and men were separated from women and children then systematically slaughtered while the UN stood by watching.
And still we see reference made to that massacre as a ‘genocide’ where thousands of ‘people’ were killed. It literally hurts these hypocrites to use the more accurate term ‘gendercide’.
And all this bitch can do is spew hate towards those wanting to understand what they’re seeing.
Yes, I remember hearing of this from a personal friend. A friend on a Christian mission, helping out the ‘still’ suffering folk of this area. It’s affected many by all accounts, and consequently alcohol and drug related issues ensue. He’s doing a great job in support, and I admire his sensitivity to the cause.
He’s out there now, and I feel he will remain for some time yet.
Adam Jones’ article Effacing the Male analyses those events with regard to their media and institutional treatment.
It details the mechanisms which trivialise, minimise, obscure or completely hide male suffering from view.
Amazing olive branch extended to Vanja from her victim in the video:
http://bit.ly/VEzird
Would be interesting to see if she accepts.
Classy, articulate, reasonable, doesn’t bear a grudge … juxtaposes well against violent feminist thugs spitting and swearing, doesn’t it.
I think this letter reflects what we saw of him at the protest. Composed, rational, balanced.
It also reflects an unfortunate naïveté that underscores a lack of understanding of the situation.
Don’t get me wrong, I admire this young man very much. I really do. I wish I had his composure.
At the same time, this is not just about his interaction with her. She was spitting at all men that day, as was that crowd and the people who organized it.
The Boy Crises, which I must remind all involves the marginalization and premature death of young men, is a phenomenon that has largely been orchestrated by the very kind of ideologue that was calling him “fucking scum.”
They are part and parcel to making the abuse of boys systemic and widespread, and they do not have a conscious about it. Nor will they ever, no matter how much forgiveness or understanding is extended.
I see that Paul Nathanson has commented on his thread. I hope people read his comment carefully.
I will always admire the way this man handled himself in the face of such vitriol, but the willingness to issue respect as though it had never happened to this kind of individual crosses the line into enabling.
That is not a quality that serves the disaffected men and boys of this culture, nor does it elevate him further above the hate and bigotry than he already clearly stands.
I also remember one of the Hofstra false allegation victims, just after he was released from jail, saying he had no hard feelings.
And I’m surprised the feminists have not already labeled his extending of the olive branch by way of this offering to meet for coffee with Vanja as a sleasy come on in the same vein as creepy Rebecca elevator girl!
Try as hard as I might, I can’t imagine harboring enough hate inside me to behave the way Vanja did toward a unknown person. That such hate is generated in students via women’s studies and feminism highlights the enormity of the problem faced in shifting the focus from “feminism” to what Farrell calls a “gender transition movement.” It also illustrates to me the absolute need for AVFM and what we do here.
will go unnoticed, i don’t think he understands that he’s dead in the eyes of feminists.
“So, if you’d like, we can go Dutch on a pair of coffees the next time I have a free Friday night.”
0_o
Well… at least he didn’t do it in an elevator.
Well, given that she is scrubbing every trace of herself from the internet, it appears it is in fact Vanja Krajina who is “fucking ashamed” of herself. As indeed she should be.
The idea that AVfM is ‘harassing’ these people rests on the presumption that they are a special class of people who should not be held accountable for their actions. All AVfM is doing, after all, is drawing attention to their actions, using only information that they themselves posted publicly. Nothing more.
I do love how feminist allies regress and degrade adult women who are over the age of criminal responsibility by portraying them as helpless ‘girls.’ Let me guess, when that doesn’t work out, they will decide that women are even more helpless than children and we will hear a teary chorus “b-b-but … what about TEH ZYGOTEZ?”
She’s pretty much been a ghost to begin with….
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/03/27/alex-hundert-forsakes-homeless-occupiers/#comment-1260
This fellow who runs this blog seems to be acquainted with spittle girl.
Can we pause our delight at her being outed for just a second and take time to truly honour this (perhaps newly coined) Rainbow Coalition?
Absolutely enthralling work, folks
The Double Awesome Rainbow Coalition!
Is that a mugshot?
I would like to say she’s a pretty girl but I was raised with the belief that pretty is as pretty does.
On the first video, at 3:32, you will see a blonde woman yelling out “Fucking Pigs!” Her name is Ashleigh Ingle, she’s a local anarchist, a teacher at an exclusive private school, and a leader of the CUPE local (3902) who organized that event…
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/05/16/anarchist-ashleigh-black-bloc-leader-and-teacher-for-the-1/
great eye! will look into her further.
as a coed school, i’m pretty sure a few fathers might be interested in what she actually thinks of their sons.
Oh! Thank you so much.
Wow! Cheers!
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Hypergamic, not every kid who is abused goes on to abuse. People have choices about how they address their suffering. Feeling guilt because of your gender is a waste of energy, use the energy to make change
Thanks for saying it that way Aimee. I don’t feel guilty about my gender, I just wrote part of my comment poorly I suspect.
To clarify, I feel comfortable saying no western male has any privilege over any female here. Its a joke to think we do. I see why its a popular joke but its not funny anymore. Kids suffer, other cultures that might become something great, suffer.
I have privilege over other men, having worked at the bottom ot western society for my entire life, I do have to own up to that and like most men we try to help those that struggle under us.
Its jusy a hard sell when the most practical advice you can give in the current environment is, earn your money here, keep your family in your country. Retire there and hope the west doesn’t come help you before you die.
I’m a planter of acorns in life. Today I asked about the gender reciprocity of intimate partner violence in some teenage behaviour surveys done in our county. Just matter of fact as to why only one directions was reported in the briefing paper. Reading the analysts body language she had not even thought of interrogating the database that way.
I figure I’m not going to see the oaks from those acorns, but I’m not going to stop planting them.
I hope that does happen. The most painful moments for me personally have always been losing respect for women once they comfronted with something that challenges their elevated social status, or threatens clothing supply lines( that last part is in jest, mostly.)
Hmmm, Hyper, I think you have some big fish on the line, possibly some Women’s studies professors. For whatever reason, and imo likely your comments’ mention that “Universities” are not a nurturing environments for men, has likely captured the the attention of its federally funded beneficiary’s. Knockin’ the Feminist play pen-is not allowed; As your tame and logical comments seem to have been singled out for 4 down votes, I’m donating 4 dollars to AVFM and throwin’ you an up vote to make things “more equal” !!
Thanks. Now I feel like I did my slave labor bit for a cause I care about, I’ll take four dollars to this site and put to good use then thousands given that only wind up feeding a system that produces women like this.
Its funny what people will do for little pay when they believe in what they’re contributing toward.
“I hope our western goverments and university bodies are reading over what’s here on a voice for men. The public structures that nuture women like this need to be dismantled for men to move forward to where women claimed they wanted them to be. How is it even possible to produce useful, caring males when they face institutionally built hatred?”
Why should boys today even be the least bit interested in “being what women claim they want”. It has reached the point where that type of thought is dead parallel to, “If I am just a bit better maybe my abuser will stop hurting me”.
“I don’t think I’ve ever felt so terrible about being male, white and privileged as I have reading these articles and knowing that in little ways we’re all a little responsible for the damage people like Emma, Sophia and this women do daily.”
Wait….What?
Oh, so you are a touch racist and sexist in not holding Sophia, Emma and, Vanja accountable for their own choices and actions and dragging race into a completely non-racial, society wide discussion is pointless derailing. These women were not really made they CHOSE to emulate the garbage taught by women’s studies prof’s. They are solid evidence why all funding to these people must be cut off, they do nothing to advance society and only create conflict and strife.
I think I understand what you’re saying Raven. As the father of a young boy, I can’t deny the power women have over him and other males just as a natural side effect of them being women. No conscious action needed on the female side. It just happens and of course that gets worse as the boys age. I don’t expect to have good effect denying it. Again I get your point but I don’t know how to sell an individual male a no engaging in a mating game ever stance.
I feel they are made. Society rewards them foe acting as they did. In each case I’ve seen each woman built a following based on societal backed hate and they enjoyed being queen bee of their various groups.
I urge seperation from greater society for them, jail time and removing the institutions that help nourish this.
That said, I do feel a little reaponsible. Standing up to bigots is my job as a privileged rapey… Whatever.
rhetoric aside, I am sorry for using loaded language and not being clear, I hope I clarified.
You did clarify, thank you.
And, I hope my critique did not come off as an attack as the unspoken thrust of my point is, “we really need to teach boys better”. I myself engaged in the mating game. Rather stupidly when I was younger and much better informed now.
The only issue I really have (and it seems to be a case of “tone” not coming across well when typed) was the whole racial aspect. I swear that “race” (there really are no races of humans, none of us are genetically different enough to qualify, black, asians, whites, etc are all a different race as much as “tall people” or “redheads”) is little more than a diversion. I look forward to the day when men of every type come together with one common goal. “How can we make our little slice of this planet better and, more just”.
It’s a plot I tell ya!!!
Last time I went to bed and I wake up to Emma Claire with subsequent comments attached. Today I am holding up my end of the patriarchal bargain. Ya know, cleaning, washing, ironing, grocery shopping, etc. I sit down for the first time since 7 AM this morning and WTF do I see. I’m missing all the fun.
Do you hate me Paul????
How can I contact Paul? I have a useful lead…..
god@avoiceformen.com
I keed
http://www.avoiceformen.com/info/contact-us/
paul@avoiceformen.com
http://i.imgur.com/ZzNNr.jpg
NEXT!!!!!!
imo, Toronto is a festering boil on the buttocks of the world but there are some days I wish I still lived there as I would be strolling the U of T campus as we speak. I hear it is beautiful this time of year.
That is the next one I’d like to see outed. The 1st few times I watched the vid in regular resolution I thought he was a scrawny guy with dreadlocks, on review in standard HD I was surprised to see that it was just greasy, stringy, unkempt hair. I bet he believes his false-flag nice guy routine will open some of those legs at the protest faster than a bit of personal hygiene. I’d feel sorry for him along with Emma had they not been supporters of pure unadulterated hatred and anti-free-speech.
There has to be a U of T sign begging for some posters. I really hope I have time to stop by during the holidays >:-).
Color me Mauve. Here ye is a scroll.
Agent Rainbow is now on patrol.
Glitter and FaceCrook and Bumble accounts.
Are folding, and dimming and more they do bounce.
The hurtful and bigots who’s spigots gush hate.
Are turning off taps, Adieu it’s too late.
Your pen is forever, with electrical stamp.
Phoenix is clipped, his ankles in clamp.
Dark light is your love. Your shadow now split.
And where the sun touches, your fingers frostbit.
In warm rivers sun flows no stopping it’s glow.
The truth has you huddled on shrinking oxbow.
Hope is not lost. There still is but chance.
Humanity is god and here holds its branch.
Wrest it. Just grab it. It’s strength does depend.
On your eyes bleeding shame for those you offend.
So color me Mauve the scroll now rewound.
Crack whip and point sleigh “Tally-ho we’re ice bound!”
To plunder the night and rob it of thieves.
Who knit with cold needles their sins on shirtsleeves.
Tbh, while the change in approach taking place is great; unless things take an interesting turn, then it just seems like we’re going after puppets whilst the puppetmasters in this get a free pass.
What has come out in the expose of Sophie and Vanja is that this protest is looking more and more like it was baked and organised by members of the faculty and it involved the deliberate use of “professional” agitators.
At what point do we start going after the brains of this protest?
As soon as YOU start making it happen.
An armchair is a terrible thing to waste.
if Agent Orange would help me with my Linux box.
oops. I mean I have written emails,etc to various deans and media. Still waiting on my decals. I already have a certain head of women’s studies office staked out for new wallpaper. Shhhhh.
Have you made contact with Steve about the decals?
They are on there way in time for Christmas.
Merry Christmas haters.
Yeah, me too.
Can’t wait to get hold of them.
Cartoon U Scatters? Good man. If you ever find yourself in my neck of the woods I’ll stand you a round of your favourite poison.
You in the Ottawa area Raven01?
Nah follow Highway 7 to Peterborough to find me.
The gf does have family in school in Ottawa though so I might find myself in the area.
In the middle of my last major assignment for the year. Once I’m done though, I’ll happily join the party.
Also as the writer’s corner demonstrates, I’m currently in the process of working on contributing to the destruction of one of the last, and arguably the most significant of the last blue pills core to controlling male behaviour through socialisation and which many MRAs are still taking without realising it (I’m actually going to call it “the flipside of white-knighting”)
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I think most agree that in order to expose those programing this you must neutralize the fem-fodder first.
Oh I agree that you remove the easily duped lackeys before going after the masterminds. I was merely saying that considering how deeply into the UoT heirarchy this keeps appearing to go, I hope we leave no stone unturned (would anyone else here take a little too much pleasure in it if it turned out to go all the way to the pro-Vice Chancellor)?
Neat…just like a video game. Put the lackey’s in the corner and then face the Big Boss in a hoe-down feminist showdown!
More like a chess game I would submit. Pawns have to be cleared first. Then the queen is vunerable. Then naturally we have the Knights huffing and puffing while they jumping around threatening everybody (but usually get sacrificed). Not sure about bishops and rooks and where they fit. Middle ranking apparatchiks perhaps.
The king well he really doesn’t have much power the queen usurped that.
Go on a poster run….
Its an important implied question your asking. I know from failure what not to do but not what works.
So far the most successful thing I have seen is this site and its very broad series of statements which I read to mean.
If you buy into our popular female centered culture you’re digging your own lonely grave and daming other men as well. Same for women only with less suffering and more pay off. This Web site has done very well considering the nature of its opponent.
didn’t things devolve into the current state simply because so many women blindly asked?
“At what point do we start going after the brains of this protest?”
Why don’t you propose how to do so so we can consider following you?
I think Tawil has given us the perfect opportunity to be honest as the Provost has more or less put his head on a silver platter as far as complicity goes.
As for something else, I’m about to IM one of the staff with an idea.
Great.
I’d also like to go after the brains who brew the kind of poison coming from the mouths of these protestors. THEY are the real prize here but they are probably well hidden.
Lazy, Shmoe and Surly…
Congratulations for the latest catch, and reaching the 3M mark also.
Excellent work, guys.
Not much to say that hasn’t been said already, but this certainly calls for an appropriate celebratory tune. I’ll be the one doing a dance of victory in the corner.
I’m confused. I was taught by my feminist preachers that MRAs were sexist, racist, anti-LGBT scum. How can you post something by an openly gay man? You’re one of those feministas hidding in the shadows, aren’t you.
No, I just don’t give a shit about peoples sexual orientation. I will side with anyone that goes against feminism, and are generally more interested in what people say or do, than what goes on behind their closed bedroom doors.
I think a lot of people on this planet could learn from that, instead of sticking their noses into something that’s really none of their business.
If you knew my story, which you obviously don’t, you wouldn’t even have to ask. And you should know by now, that you can’t trust a feminist with telling the truth about anything.
Least of all something that relates to sex.
I think there was a bit of tongue-in-cheek to his comment there Kimski.
Oh, I get it.
Just trying to make a point here, to the true sexists, racists and anti-LGBT scum.
They may not think they are, but every attempt to shame males into compliance shows their true colours. Try saying no to one of them, and see which explanation they go for first, when you don’t find them attractive enough to sleep with..
One good turn deserves another. Totally OT, but damn they were good in the day.
Love Queen, although this isn’t an appropriate website to talk about Fat Bottomed Girls.
I know this is probably for a different thread on a different website, but at 0:44, why are they singing in front of a Dalek?
OT, but did you know that this song was awarded as being the best piece of music published in the past 25 years, less than a year after it was recorded?
No I didn’t, but I am not surprised. All these years and I still find it amazing.
My uncle were recording a mastertape with his band in the same studio they were making Bohemian Rhapsody in at that time.
He watched up close how they changed the whole concept of recording techniques, and how they made those brilliant vocal harmonies.
Another story for another day.
Anyone have Rebecca Watson’s agent’s phone #?
If she can get that sort of mileage out of a brief elevator incident, imagine the power and the glory of ALMOST being in DANGER of DANGEROUS MRAs. Why, they must ALMOST be scared to death!
Yep, don’t be surprised if she doesn’t start stalking Farrell’s speaking engagements, hoping for chaos, or creating it.
The feminist Rebecca Watson found the following brutal, rapy words from a young man to be threatening: “Don’t take this the wrong way, but I find you very interesting. And I would like to talk more, would you like to come to my hotel room for coffee?”
And yet, when a feminist screams and assaults, “You are fucking scum” to a man, that is completely acceptable to them, and unworthy of being questioned.
AND somehow, MRAs are the violent creeps in this story?
Idiots, all of them.
#sorry feminists if we MRAs aren’t chivalrous enough for you – we’ll work harder at being your disposable slaves Real Soon Now.
Today, I picked up a copy of my college district’s policy regarding: sexual harassment, false accusations, discrimination, etc., complete with contact information. Yes, all those categories and more were listed. I gave the document a cursory read and found it to be worded in a relatively fair-minded manner. I’ve been going to that school for a while and in the past I’ve formally expressed some concerns so it was refreshing to see that some in administration may have understood my concerns.
I wonder if the U. of T. has policies regarding the bad behavior of students like that we saw in the video of the protest against Dr. Farrell.
Is the U. of T. unable to act in a disciplinary manner without a formal complaint from a member of its student body. Given such obvious hate speech as that shown by the protesters in the video, a formal complaint should not be needed in any ethically run institution, IMO?
Maybe we should be asking who a student should complain to, given the U. of T’s. apparent tolerance and promotion of an obvious hate agenda in the U. of T’s. Women’s Studies Department.
Ray, here is where the complaints go at the U of T. I posted this comment in the Emma Claire thread.
I have called the Human Resources & Equity department 416.978.4865 where the secretary became extremely nervous about my call. She was clearly covering for staff who she could not remember who they were. (I did ask why both these officers were female, with equal opportunity and equality between men and women, one would think one of these officers would me male.)
To lodge a formal complaint you can call Patty Stamp-Sexual Harassment Officer at 416-978-3908 and Sandra Carnagie-Douglas~Anti Racism Officer at 416-978-1259. You can also call the Dean for Arts and Science at 416-978-3383 from whence the majority of these students came from.
To write your letter of concern and to detest the kind of hate filled, bigoted, sexual and (race male) racially charged attacks against a visible group, men in general and Dr. Warren Farrell in particular to demand action be taken against all of these students who clearly deeply tarnished the reputation of the University of Toronto and put it in disrepute.
University of Toronto President
David Naylor
Ph. 416-978-2121
fax 416-971-1360
President@UToronto.ca
In your correspondence be polite, firm and express your concern and outrage. Site that what these protesters have done violates Human Rights Codes, the Criminal Code of Canada and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Remind the president of U of T that the unbecoming action of these felonious students tarnishes the good reputation of the University and puts the entire University and faculty in disrepute.
In addition, you should also contact the Governing Council that runs the University and creates protocol, phone at 416-978-2118.
There is a statement on the UofT Provost website regarding this incident:
http://www.provost.utoronto.ca/office/Provostial_Statements/Provost_s_Statement_on_Recent_Controversial_Events_on_Campus__December_2012_.htm
Reads to me like a few arses have been kicked.
Perhaps. It also reads like they are taking a couple of youtube comments and turning them into a reason for hysteria.
Yup and if they had responded at the time the vitriol on You Tube may have been diminished. They were shamed into it (deservedly so) I can picture them typing up this press release with gritted teeth. They hoped all would be forotten. U of T we have not finished with you yet.
You’re far too kind. (I can’t believe I just said that to Paul Elam.)
It’s a weaselly talking out of both sides of their mouths non-answering non-action for anything, and even then only weeks later after there were people like Michael Coren talking about it… and then they equally allocate blame?
“Somebody caught us being OK with this and they’re mad so we’re going to try to look above the fray.”
What a load of bullshit. THEY WILL NOT TREAT WOMEN LIKE ADULTS. There would be no need for vitriol had they done something about this when it happened. Or if the cops had done their jobs and arrested some people.
Agree Dean, this is PR spin pure and simple, I doubt anyones “ass has been kicked”, the statement seems more directed to painting those who would dare to make these students responsible and accountable for their actions as the bad guys. They claim that the results have been ‘the vilification of a very small number of individual students.” Sorry putting their own words and behaviour on display is NOT vilification, it is giving them the space and an audience they apparently covet, to preach their anti-male hatred. What did they expect would be the response to it? You go girl, great work and a distinction in their gender studies program.
That letter does not acknowledge that some of the stuff they are teaching (esp. womens studies) there is most likely a causative factor resulting in the ignorance and bigotry we saw displayed by the protesters. It is aloof and arrogant as if they played no role in what resulted.
I think what needs to be appreciated here is that this is a [B]public[/B] statement. UofT need to be careful what they say, so that they do not appear to be taking sides (even when one side is clearly in the wrong). This incident has brought world wide shame and embarrassment to the university, and they are in fire fighting mode.
The Provost does acknowledge that the behaviour of the protestors was unacceptable:
“The vast majority of the University of Toronto community understands that freedom of expression is vital to the mission of universities and cannot be reserved for those with whom one agrees. It is therefore heartening that many members of our community with otherwise divergent views have recognized that the disruption of this event by protesters was a threat to free speech.”
I don’t think we will see them own up to their own negligence in allowing an environment where this sort of thing can happen.
We will never know what has been said in private to the protestors and the academics who influence them. When an organisation feels the need to make public statements to remind people of proper conduct, then usually someone has had the riot act read to them behind closed doors.
I don’t think that the protestors will find much comfort in the Provost’s statement.
Yes I didn’t expect them to admit their role in this – I and others should speak about it though for precisely that reason.
Statement on the UofT Provost website:
“We have at the University of Toronto a wide range of contentious events, in which views are expressed that are offensive to some.”
“Unfortunately, when contentious issues, such as this one, spill into the world of blogs and internet participation and increasingly involve individuals external to our community, they can very quickly escalate. That has happened in this situation and has resulted in the vilification of a very small number of individual students. These students have also received online threats to their personal safety. We take these threats seriously and we condemn them. We have reached out to individual students..”
This official statement is clearly casting innuendo on the Warren Farrell event by even suggesting that it is inherently offensive. Why suggest that with clearly no evidence? What is really offensive is the U of T suggesting such a thing and furthermore that it is rallying primarily, according to it’s official statement, in support the perpetrators and not the victims at the riot. Enough said.
This anti male, violence-tolerant cabal in which which the university appears to be participating definately invites a legal response. The wheels are in motion.
Yes I think the establishment @ the U of T has a lot to answer for especially given that the protesters had an appalling view and using appalling “logic” to villify someone they clearly knew little about excepting some out of context quotes deliberately misinterpreted. If this is the kind of “education” they are getting in womens studies then there is a massive fraud going on – womens studies is supposed to be an academic subject not kindergarten classes in spreading fairy fucking tales.
I’m sooo mad that I’m tempted to slurp my coffee!
And what do you know. Wow, this doesn’t have the tendency to turn out like the racial vilification and plageurism scandal at the University of Newcastle about 8 years ago at all, does it?
““vilification of a very small AND GROWING number of individual students”
“contentious issues”???
What is so contentious about forty percent of post secondary enrollments or nine out of ten youth suicides?
Technically it is “contentious” though. Don’t get me wrong, you’re stating cold hard facts. However in academic terminology, any hotly debated issue is “contentious” no matter how lacking in substance the argument of one side may be.
Universal suffrage
Abolition of slavery
End of Apartheid
Etc.
What do they all have in common? They were all contentious issues (at the time). The fact that some people opposed these just causes did not detract from their legitimacy.
As everyone knows, Gandhi said:
“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”
When they start to fight you, the issue becomes contentious.
“vilification of a very small number of individual students”
You see its not their fault They were speaking their mind they were not villifying anybody (well maybe just a teeny bit) it’s all the externals who have been nasty to them.
It’s a scrambling and distancing technique. What’s implied there is that the protesters are tiny in number and therefore the views of the protestors do not reflect the views of the vast majority of students.
It’s straight up damage control spin.
“Provost’s Statement on Recent Controversial Events on Campus (December 2012)”
“Unfortunately, when contentious issues, such as this one, spill into the world of blogs and internet participation and increasingly involve individuals external to our community, they can very quickly escalate. That has happened in this situation and has resulted in the vilification of a very small number of individual students.”
If this administrator exercised as much concern over his/her U. of T., women’s studies department students, who vilify and violently assault innocent men as a group, perhaps he/she wouldn’t have to publish hypocritical statements trivializing his/her U. of T. students’ violent, assaulting behavior.
I’d like to suggest that he/she make his/her vile women’s studies department students’ behavior his/her number one priority and stop mis-prioritizing of his/her responsibilities, or get out of the business of administration in higher education.
It is more than right that responsible people in society should take a stand against hate movements being actively sheltered and promoted in their community by the U. of T. Get used to it.
Here is my view. This piece by the U of T is pure PR (public relations) BS. Had they immediately reprimanded these felonious students the action here at AVFM may have been slightly different. I still believe all of these clowns deserve to be unmasked and exposed no matter what official action is taken by the University or the courts.
My concern is that the U of T has not denounced the ill and criminal behaviour of their students which tells us they condone it. I have serious issue with that. The U of T position is inconsistent with gender issues that prohibits this kind of discrimination. You can safely bet if it was aimed at women, the University Cavalry would have been deployed in full force.
While the University attempts to be neutral, they fail to take appropriate steps to address the reprehensible behaviour that began strictly by their U of T students.
So this is the charmer who doesn’t think twice about going up to a police officer and accusing a man she’s never seen before of being a rapist.
What a truly ugly woman.
Well, well, well, Creepy Spittergirl has a name.
The reporting of the riot is bound to get bigger in the days ahead as it becomes clear to the public and media just how extreme it was, including the fact that the University of Toronto is indulging this sort of behaviour on campus (by thier silence) without a rapid and decisive response to all perpetrators followed with an apology to the organisers of the talk.
The U of T need to be legally held to account on this. Perhaps the University can be sued? Individuals who were intimidated can sue, as can the organisers of the event… a coalitian needs to be formed and the matter taken to a legal firm for advice about lack of due process by the University.
“You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. You’re fucking scum. You are fucking scum. You fucking rape apologist, incest supporting, woman hating fucking scum. You’re fucking scum.”
Any chance we could submit this to BrainyQuote.com, maybe in the ‘motivational’ category?
I want it on a poster for my wall.
Done ~ http://tinypic.com/r/2wce2k5/6
we need a T-Shirt with her pic and the above quote, and a caption that says this is what a feminist looks and sounds like.
This woman is disgusting and I am so happy she has now been exposed for the hateful abusive person she is. Bravo to those who worked on exposing her. People like her have to be held accountable for their actions.
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Racism is not welcome on AVfM. I see you are a newcomer pushing this line. Are you one of the girls attempting to plant a little bag of phony evidence to justify your U of T riot or to discredit AVfM’s reporting on the event?
It won’t wash here…. we are anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti violence, anti ageist and anti all other forms of bigotry like yours.
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Cool your jets? The man just told you that racist remarks were not welcome here.
See the picture of the bigot in the article above? We are identifying her for bigotry.
Now, the thing for you to do is to calmly and maturely accept the caution from a well established member here, and consider that this kind of talk is not welcome, in any way.
Just take the chip from your shoulder, lay off the racist remarks, and you will do fine here. Otherwise…..
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“I was referring to him implying that I was some kind of feminist Illuminati plant out to destroy your image.”
I posed a valid question, Pokey. I rarely hear MRAs being racist, and I regularly hear feminists trying to impute racist attitudes to MRAs.
If you are not a feminist, fine. The main point is that you understand racism isnt productive or welcome here which is a no brainer… something you appear to accept.
Topic concluded.
The intention was not to be racist but I understand and I’m sorry for the comment.
I am definitely not a feminist, I get accused of being a “stepford wife” or that I must be “beaten or raped” on a daily basis to be siding with men’s rights despite the fact that I’m an accomplished woman.
I know what you mean, Pokey.
I WISH I was accused of being a Stepford Wife. I usually get accused of being a man, which is …disconcerting.
I don’t know how new you are to playing in the boy’s sandbox, but remarks we as women carelessly make without fear of repercussion will most certainly be misconstrued (when speaking on men’s behalf), which can and WILL be used to indict any and ALL men in a court of public opinion.
Speaking as a feminist,”Croatians are nuts” would have been “snarky” and harmless.
Speaking as an MRA, “Croatians are nuts” is RRRACIST! It’s violent and oppressive and proof the Monster Must Die!
It takes some adjustment, but hang in there. As long as your heart’s in the right place, you’ll do fine.
Well said. One should be judged by what they do; i.e. you are what you do. “You are THAT because you do THIS.” which will always hold true as long as that person we are referring to continues THIS behavior. But with Feminism and other hate groups, that dialog changes to “You do THIS because you are THAT” which is not always true and is unfair.
“You are a RAPIST because you are a MAN” is what we heard Feminists like Vanja say to the men whom only wished to address or at least acknowledge the sad fact that 80% of suicide victims are male.
And yet I’ve known some Croatians who are people with beautiful characters. Could what you have said here been, oh I don’t know, as much a case of blind and baseless bigotry as what those protestors were engaging in? The survey says…. top answer!
Just a quick message to say well done! And keep up the good work!
“handing out cupcakes” how symbolic.
Somebody who knows how to do this, needs to do it.
gangam style? lol
They say a picture tells a thousand words. That video of Vanja Krajina sums up the feminist movement :
- false rape accusations
- hate speech
- attempts to silence male issues
- misandry
- irrationality
- no accountability
- playing the victim card
You’ll find Mark Brill on this video at 1:21. He’s from the Ontario Coalition of Poverty (OCAP), and is a leader with ‘Black Bloc’ types who busted Toronto up during the G20.
http://www.causepimps.ca/marque-brill/top.html
Then, as I already mentioned, you see Anarchist Ashleigh Ingle yelling at a cop at 3:14, yelling out “Fucking pigs” at 3:31, and getting into a pushing match with the police in-between.
Some interesting information on Ingle. Her (recently ex) partner was Brandon Gray, he ran a very sketchy company selling domain names.
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/05/20/occupy-torontos-anarchist-brandon-grays-chequered-past/
At 2:08, on the far-left side of the video, we can see Julian Ichim – he’s one of Toronto’s least savoury anarchists who recently participated in interrupting remembrance day with a couple of Afghani radical women. Canada’s radical website rabble.ca promoted this:
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/11/18/mediawatch-rabble-ca-says-fk-the-troops-feat-julian-ichim-zach-ruiter-flagpole-alex/
We can also see Amanda Lickers on the video at 2:18. She was also recently involved with what I believe may be a political stunt by some local NDP politicians connected to OCAP.You can also see her talking on this video at 0:30. Ashleigh Ingle was at that meeting too.
This is a tightly knit group, they all work together, and most are hardcore Marxists….
Thank you, GenuineWitty. The full story is really taking shape.
The two ‘gentlemen’ blocking the entrance at 2:00 are the next most guilty. We’ve been trying to identify them since the video was released.
With the information you’ve provided we should be able to ID them soon. If they look familiar to you, please let us know.
It’s really interesting to know their names and informing to be able to trace and verify through Google the connections you claim for them, so thank you.
Their protesting actions, shouting mostly, documented in the video seems at first glance to be well within first amendment rights (noting this takes place in Canada of course) and free speech principles. At least it’s not clear to me by way of the video they were blocking doors or shoving the police.
I am noting this just so any identification of them makes clear that for the most part they seemed to be behaving according to their rights and even the rights of Warren Farrell, even if they were in opposition and generally jackasses.
But it is also useful to note through your helpful response that this random group of outraged feminists has a whole bunch of the usual suspects in it and may not reflect U of T students.
Again, it would be good for someone to pin the head of the University and the Women’s Studies department down on their positions re what happened and what is taught and department involvement.
It seems the missing link is the person who is connected to both the cause-hijacking anarchists (professional protesters) and the U of T women’s studies department. Someone brought both groups together.
Ashleigh Ingle (who now teaches young boys) brought in Toronto’s Black Boc anarchists, and she is also a U of T alumni. She and her husband are no doubt pivotal players pulling the strings – but we need to find out who is her contact employed by the University that brought out the young man-hating fembots from class?
I apologize, I was googling earlier, and lost the links.
There is one women that says she was their as part of her women’s studies group. I think she maybe key. Find out who that group is associated with — are they in anyway affiliated with the school.
The school has two newspapers. Each ran one article on this. There is a statement in one, I think, that this came about not via the school, but via some outside organization, or sui generis group of students.
Anyway, as I’ve mentioned before, I try to pin down which of these people are students that are part of, or have taken part in classes from the women’s studies department, and then ask University representatives and the head of that department if the students behavior reflects current teachings. And if not, how were these students so badly misled?
And if there are lots of outsiders and not actually students at U of T in these videos, that should be made clear to, how a legitimate speaker was invited to campus and then kept off campus by non-student activists. And that should be put in the face of the U of T Student Union representatives that spoke in the videos how the U of T student union supported these actions.
The woman who says she came as part of her women’s studies group has been identified, but not outed because (as far as we know) didn’t take down posters and her anti-male vitriol was nothing like Emma’s or Sophia’s. Basically, she’s just like really really into Justin Bieber and like taking down the man and stuff (nuff said;).
She and Sophia are closely connected and came to the protest together, encouraged by the same mystery person who is almost certainly employed by the University.
“we need to find out who is her contact employed by the University that brought out the young man-hating fembots from class?”
And the U. of T. administration has the authority to read the campus emails of those people in question and address any malfeasance contained therein. On campus emails are not private correspondence inasmuch as they are sent, or received, or sent and received through U. of T. computers.
Emails from home to home are an entirely other matter.
Addendum:
Employees also have less right to privacy than a private citizen in the U.S., in my lay opinion. Canada, of course, may, or may not, be different.
The U of T is a public research university, if she transmitted any information through e-mail, or even just through that network, it’s now government property.
It’s really sick that our nations first university has turned into this feminist sanctum, considering the man who founded that University was a British officer who ended slavery in Upper Canada.
He also was the one who brought Trial by Jury and the backbone of Jurisprudence to Canada. These Smug rights trampling feminists have no business being there, as they wouldn’t understand any of those concepts if it bit them on the pointed nose.
An official Access to Information Request should be able to get the information.
Well ideally it would be good if there existed an independent standards body that could interview both students and heads of departments esp. womens studies to determine the extent that protesters were inluenced or even possibly instructed to protest. Universities should NOT producing students with ignorant “pitchfork” mentalities in fact they should be doing the fkn reverse.
I doubt such type of investigation will happen of course but it does no harm to at least point in the direction that tax dollars should be spent untik one day the right people take notice.
You are not allowed to infringe on the rights of others. The fundamental freedoms in Canada are:
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
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By not allowing people to access Warren’s speech, they were denying them their right to peaceful assembly and chastising them for their views which differed from their own.
Yes, I had to explain this to a few people.
Just like how we turned away the Westboro baptist church for wanting to protest a funeral, you can’t just spray your nonsense and block people from accessing ‘goods and services’ you don’t agree with.
This was not a peaceful assembly by any means.
Glad someone brought that up. It’s a lot different here in Canada, and what they were doing was basically illegal here.
You know in the movies where cops have the drug ring web, and the “?” marks and the interconnecting lines?
A big one of those would be helpful.
We need our own Glenn Beck.
GenuineWitty,
Your blog is wonderful.
Dr F,
How’s that old noggin of yours?
So many bigots, so little time. Seriously, recently I am spending (not losing) way too much productive time reading these reports. You guys should probably start outing a few at once. Six-packs seem optimal.
So what this is telling me is that as well as the UTSU and women’s studies group, a group of radicals EXTERNAL to the UT community, has brought their hatred and agenda’s onto to campus, all under the auspices of the CUPE (not sure what role or legitimacy they should normally have in the university community?? suffice to say trade unions have no defined roles in Australian university life except in protecting the interests of the university employees who are members of those unions). I wonder what the university has to say about these groups interfering in the universities affairs.
CUPE represents the part time and contract faculty at may Toronto based Universities.
Yes, the CUPE 3902 represent teaching staff at UofT. Anarchist Ashleigh Ingle (who was at the demonstration) used to be the recording secretary for 3902. They are an incredibly radical group…
I live very close to C.F.B. Trenton which is Canada’s (and the entire Commonwealth’s) largest airforce base. All the bodies that come back from Afghanistan come through Trenton on their way to the coroner’s office in Toronto. These repatriation ceremonies are huge events in the area with thousands of people lining the roads and standing on overpasses on the highway as a small measure of respect for the fallen.
I wonder what the reaction would be locally to the feminist funded “fuck the troops” campaign and posters. Probably not good.
These people are the Canadian version of the Westboro Baptist Church… (the ‘God Hates Fags’ people)
It is begining to appear that the antogonists here are professional protesters. These kinds of people are known for attending any and all political events where they can practice their extreme form of activism. They live for the thrill of it.
I wonder how many people at this protest were actually UoT students, and how many were simply seeking another great event to latch onto.
This post just made my day!
Very interesting revelation!
So I’m just gonna come out with it and say that yes, all feminists are like that. If they are not NOW, they have been or will be at some point.
This. This woman is the scariest of all those protesters. She deserves to be in jail. that’s the perfect place for her.
She was intimidating innocent young men and the police officers on duty.
Well done AVFM. Well done. Thanks for bringing this horrible woman to light. Let the whole world see her now.
A few folk have mentioned a protester claiming to be there as a part of a “womens’ studies class”. It seems that at least one teacher/lecturer has encouraged or, possibly, required participation in this protest.
I’ve always understood that schools have a duty of care to their students.
Is it the policy of the University of Toronto to “encourage” or even force students into actions which they believe could lead to confrontation and aggression. Is it the policy of the University of Toronto to “encourage” or even force students to escalate otherwise peaceful circumstances into aggressive confrontations.
Putting aside – for the moment – the attacks on meeting attendees I wonder how parents should view their kids being coerced into this type of protest activity.
My daughter was given class time marks at York for attending a tuition demonstration downtown Toronto. Buses were provided, signs pre-made and everything.
I bet Ms. Ingles was there.
And another one bites the dust!
Vanja Krajina, I have a message for you darling.
“Ti si velika budala!”
While the police did not lay charges, I will make it my personal mission to lay an information on you. You will then be summoned into court to answer to a Judge as to what you have done. You are in violation of Common Law, the Criminal Code of Canada, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and other Acts that will be explored and applied against you as warranted.
If you and your fellow bigoted thugs think you can be malicious with others, infringe on their freedom of association and get away with it, you are deeply mistaken.
You have a right to free speech, but you do not have the right to violate the rights of others no matter how empowered you may feel to be.
Vanja Krajina you are filled with hate, wreaking of vitriolic toxicity that is so severe you leave a path of death in your pungent wake.
Some grammatical gender for a change: it’s should be “velika”, not “veliko”, because the noun “budala” is feminine.
Thanks for pointing that out. It has been 40 years since I last studied in the former Yugoslavia, that was after I learned Hungarian which is my native tongue.
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/03/27/alex-hundert-forsakes-homeless-occupiers/#comment-1257
njava
March 28, 2012 at 19:05 (UTC -5)
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greg – you’re beyond creepy.
genuinewitty
March 28, 2012 at 22:10 (UTC -5)
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And, Vanja Krajina, you are a member of a violent group of cowardly thugs named Aw@l- so, a bit biased I’d suggest. I’d also suggest that you were lying when you said the police made a racial slur against you. Perhaps not- but, with the company you keep, most likely…
Dave B
December 13, 2012 at 10:59 (UTC -5)
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Vanja Krajina is the next Creepy Bittergirl – she’s famous now thanks to her incredibly vile conduct at a protest against equality for boys:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/vanja-krajina-university-of-toronto/
Hopefully the university will be taking action against her, if you have any more info on her crimes please share it with avoiceformen.
grenouf
December 13, 2012 at 13:48 (UTC -5)
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I’ll get some people on this- thanks for the update!
Just sent this email off to the U of T women’s centre:
“As a fellow Canadian and student of current trends, I am greatly interested in how you will respond to the accusation that acolytes of your academic branch are hate-mongers and against the free expression of ideas on your campus.
In addition, I wonder if you are able to see the glaring hypocrisy in how you claim to stand for understanding and compassion, yet the video of the UofT Farrell protest clearly showed the opposite. Seething hate seems to be the modus operandi of Women’s Studies adherents.
So, I invite you to come to the website A Voice for Men.com to clear up these and any other misconceptions Mens Rights Activists like myself have.”
V Jina is becoming a star (status: highly prized by the mistress “gender”). Look how much eloquence she has inspired with her succinct messages about male moral inferiority.
May her name (and visage) remain in the headlines for weeks, months and years to come.
Learning the truth about feminism can be tedious, but V Jina manages to cover all the main points in a few brief speeches on videotape.
A star!
http://www.mcgilldaily.com/2010/09/the_black_bloc_and_the_billy_club/
“Vanja Krajina, a student at George Brown College in Toronto who volunteered as a legal observer with the Movement Defense Committee on the Saturday of the G20, was on her way to meet her boyfriend on Sunday morning when several police officers approached her. They began searching her bag, and while they searched her, a group of men walked past. “One of the police officers said ‘how ‘bout we let these guys take her around back and have a go at her,’” Ronja said. When she responded angrily, the police arrested her.”
Yeah, sure they did.
A lot of extremely nasty cop behavior occurs at G20 events. Socialist education has dumbed down the public, erased moral teaching, reinforced narcissism. We are definitely going into a police state with many cops selected for their low IQ, ignorance of rights and sociopathic tendencies. Feminism assists the police state by breaking down the family, ending solid parent-directed education. The bankster elite have no better ally than Alinsky-trained destabilizing marxists (the controlling ethos of so-called “feminism”). The family courts and the encouragement of false accusations and stasi snitching (on “environment,” defensive weapons, reading habits, thought crimes) will give the State the control it needs as we are led into further deindustrialization and dependence of international corporations.
Any proof of that Andrew? If not it is merely here-say and her word has zero credibility in my books.
You should consider the source in making your evaluation. Who can tell if it is the truth or not?
I know I can not.
BTW, it should be clear by now that not only does she have a police record, but it is also quite likely that CSIS has a file on her.
At this point I am also wondering if it is possible she is an agent for CSIS working to establish her street cred?
That could also explain her “over the top” behaviour.
/conspiracy theory
I’ve written an article with a lot of what I know behind the people and the organizations behind what happened at the University of Toronto. It’s much more than a few individuals- this is a problem that is endemic in Canada, I’ve personally observed it in Toronto and Vancouver, and have heard detailed stories from Ottawa, Edmonton, Montreal and other cities.
It’s enabled by our country’s political, academic, and other leaders who not only shelter, but often promote the people behind the continuing bullying and violence. The need here isn’t to burn Vanja on the stake (she does that to herself just fine).
The need is to expose the people who are doing the bullying, and the people in the background who want them to succeed…
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/12/14/whos-responsible-for-the-university-of-torontos-anti-patriarch-hate-party-feat-vanja-krajina-and-the-old-left/
Good to see you here Mr. R.
I was also an active member of Occupy Vancouver; it was my experience with the misandry therein that led me here….
Hi, nice to see another former Occupier here! And, yes, the misandry there was a bit much- I blame it on Creepy BitterGrrl Sasha Wiley-Shaw and her gang of thugs…
A lot of people seem to come to Canada with emotional baggage from other places (or their parents emotional baggage/stories). They find some extremists and settle in with them to make issues out of non issues because there really aren’t the same issues here.
There was one woman who came here that was basically like “Oh Canada just wants to save all the white people” when we cracked down on immigration fraud….
I don’t know what Canadian women have to complain about though:
-A baby isn’t a person until it comes out (Late term abortions are legal and even our conservative government has declared a closed issue)
-Free healthcare
-Women’s shelters outnumber men’s 6:1 in most places despite the fact that there are more homeless men
-You’re almost 200x more likely to die of prostate cancer here than America because of the free healthcare, and only 20x more likely to die of breast cancer by comparison
In Ontario especially men basically have no rights in family court.
You really HAVE to be an extremist to remain a feminist here, it has accomplished its goals and beyond (Including a nice little Eugenics program that ran in AB until the 80′s)
To echo what others have already said: your site is incredible.
Thank you!
The more I see of these gender studies students and Feminists and hear what they are really all about, the more proud I am of being an MRA and being in this group. We are all about true gender equality, non-violence, rights to free speech and everything else these violent thugs oppose.
Most MRAs have more respect for the capabilities of women in their little finger than feminists have in their entire body.
This, and we do it without been white knights.
Imagine that.
Time to go on to bigger things. For example: If these students were there as part of a “women studies” class, we need to find out the “professors” names and list them as the bigots they are. Out the enablers.
Basically, make the cult leaders vulnerable to the same outing as their minions.
Keep going up the chain of command until it breaks.
Yep, yep, and yep.
Hi Vanja.
I would like to correct you on a few facts about your little hate group that you didn’t seem to pick up during brainwashing or educating or whatever name they give it.
You are SCuM as a feminist not your victim. SCuM (society for cutting up men) was founded by feminist sweetheart Valerie Solanas. A dear sweet lady. You can learn about her here.
http://dailytasvir.blogspot.com.au/2010/12/10-most-dangerous-women-of-all-time.html
Heres a couple of quotes from dear old Val and I must say I’m delighted that Australian social policy was decided at a Perth SCuM convention. What a great and enlightened time we live in.
“”Life” in this “society” being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of “society” being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and eliminate the male sex.”
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo. It’s often said that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.”
Seems like a very level headed and unbiased lady to me…
So Vanja your victim was not scum YOU are scum. In fact you are the worst possible definition of the word on the planet.
Hope that clarifies things for you and its nice to see feminism has progressed so far and become a lot more level headed and less crazy and violent since old Val’s death in 1988. Keep up the great work at the equality. You people seem to have a good grasp of the fact that there is two sides to the equation. Only an incredibly foolish and stupid judge would make a ruling after hearing only half a case. Surely feminism wouldnt be silly enough to do something like that for 50 years right? I mean that would just be SOOOOOO crazy…..
AVFM will take some heat for exposing these people (and that’s OK, I don’t think anybody cares about the heat), but I think we can all see where this story is going.
It’s not just a bunch of college girls, there’s a much darker side to this, a side that has remained hidden up until now. We are starting to see professional agitators, troublemakers and hatemongers among their ranks.
When AVFM has outed all of these bigots we will be able to see the ties between “women’s studies”, University administrations, Union chapters, mercenary protestors with violent dispositions, and probably some other unsettling elements.
This can only happen with an unyielding effort to expose their identities and connections. Some will be more toxic characters than others, while others yet (with no physical presence on that video) will be the organizers and facilitators of events like this.
The usefulness of this excersize is undeniable. We are discovering a structure that exists in most universities in Canada (and perhaps all of the West), and can use this knowledge as a template to apply to other situations. We can see how far the claws of these people dig into all aspects of society as well. It becomes more understandable how empty-headed young men and women get turned into tools for feminism, really without their knowledge or consent. Shameful.
Yes Malcom,
You make a good point.
I think the rabbit hole and system of interlinking rabbit holes may be so extensive that some kind of mapping may be in order to see how things are organized.
I’m imagining some MRA with the time and skills might create a digital version of the kind of thing you can see in the attached photo -
http://rfwordpress.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/Crime-Pin-Board-Clues.jpg
I think you should go visit some feminist sites and weave your magic.
Yeah i have the same faulty link.
I tried arguing at Manboobz, but it was futile. They are mostly mal-adapted types who gang up on you with ad hominem attacks. They argue in circles and use their personal experience and straw men to “disprove” anything. I do see it here sometimes but AVfM has a great history of providing facts.
Example:
Somebody argues that people laughing at a woman cutting a man’s penis off is a clear indicator of the exact opposite of cultural misogyny.
Somebody (or all) from Manboobz states that the site condemned it and that is proof that cultural misandry doesn’t exist.
“Kill all men!” is a joke. “Cut off his pecker and throw it in the garbage disposal” was a joke even after it was done as inspired by Ms Ozborne.
Now they have this great logic that AVfM saying that they are against violence is said with some kind of imaginary wink and means the exact opposite. They copy the misquotes (out of context) from Dr Farrell and still fail to reveal to their audience that he was the poster boy for feminism at the time. Even if he did say what he said in that context and believed it, he was working for the feminists and they loved him.
Can’t fix stupid.
You missed the joke. You posted here and broke the page. Thats what I meant by weave your magic. Go break their pages.
Was not implying that it was worthwhile debating them. Would be the last thing you would hear out of me. Not having a go at you at all. Bravo on the attempt anyhow and agree with every word you said.
I get it. But what I’d have to go through is not worth bringing down one of their sites with my magic.
“hey copy the misquotes (out of context) from Dr Farrell and still fail to reveal to their audience that he was the poster boy for feminism at the time.”
That’s not what’s happening at all – in fact if anything it’s the complete opposite. What you’re actually seeing it the “traitor” reflex.
So no, I have had enough of those sites. They’ll even call you out for any number of typos, grammatical errors and non-PC (ableism – can’t use the word crazy or retarded) speech before conceding even one point. They even beat up their own people for the same stuff. They grow slowly into this hardened ball of mal-adapted hard-liners that will some day destroy the likes of any manboob who helped them along the way.
Posted on Jezebel’s FUCK YOU rant:
Dear Kate Harding, I am a woman, and I am the victim of a false rape accusation by another woman. After threatening to report my sister in law to CPS when I suspected her of sexually abusing her children, she turned the tables on me by making an accusation.
Do you know it costs a minimum of $40,000.00 deposited in the attorney’s bank account to “draw from”, back in 1998? That you are guilty until proven guilty because of the child advocacy fanatics? Have you read about the four lesbians in Texas falsely accused by a MAN who put his daughter up to accuse them? (fourliveslost.com).
Thanks to Feminism, women can fuck each other over as much as they can fuck innocent men over.
Please, don’t tell me sainted women never make false rape accusations. It is “rare” a woman makes a false accusation against another woman, but making them against men is the oldest story in the book.
If women are so sympathetic toward men being screwed in family court, why is NOW fighting tooth and nail against PAS (Parental alienation syndrome). it IS gender neutral, men are as guilty of PAS as women, it’s just more prevalent with women because women get custody rights so much more.
Thanks to NOW men with custody can freely practice PAS against women, just as women freely practice it against men.
Let’s not even start with the screwing over that second wive’s are subjected to from first wives. There is NO “sisterhood” between first and second wives.
Feminism hurts women FAAAAARRRR more than Patriarchy ever hurt men OR women.
In other words, from one woman to another – SCREW YOU.
Without getting into it I felt the link would be pulled and it appears to have been.
I feel that too. I am wondering what could possibly have caused the removal of the link that shows what people posted publicly.
It’s too soon for a court order.
I realize a lot of people are very hostile to this elitism and stupidity of the current university system in the world nowadays, and I fully agree with this sentiment.
I JUST graduated from a prestige university in London with a degree of philosophy (I hold British Passport even though I live in Hong Kong), I can tell you how corrupted the university system really is. Usually in a typical philosophy department, you have three “wings” within it. First of all you have the logical and scientific wing of the department, who focus on logic and programing languages (which require a huge amount of skill involves). These people usually works to provide an answer on question that is closely related to human society, such as “How do human acquire language?” or “What are the difference between difference human cuture in their language ?” I havedeep respect to these people since they devote HUGe amount of time into their research and they base it with empirical observation, rather then complete bullshit.
Now then you got the “historical” wing within the philosophical department. These are the people who tries to understand how does historical philsophical figures interact with each other in history. THey ask question such as “whag does Aristotle acrtually believe in his time?”, or “How does Aristotle influence the society of Greece after he died?”. I also have a deep respect into these people, since they do a lot of research into historical text, understand different language hat are used in history. I consider myself as one of these people, since my dissertation is on comparing Alchemy of China and Europe in the 17th century. I understand how hard to trying to grasp the vast historical texts.
Now you got the third wing. And surprise surprise, they are the “intuition” wing. These people know no science, no history. All they do all the time is to use their magical intuition and try to find a philosophical answer. Most feminist belongs to this wing. They publish paper about how man are retarded and should not read porn, because they will thought woman will enjoy rape if they do so. YES, THIS IS A PUBLISHED ACADEMIC PAPER IN PHILOSOPHY!!!! And they also have website that is filled with feminist Annoymous rant about how they are being oppress as a COURSE MATERIAL to show how woman are being oppressed HAHA.
Many people might think. The Third wing probably is the most retarded and ignored section of the philosophy department. I will agree they are stupid, but not that they really are ignored. In fact the reason why the department is so corrupted, is because the third wing have the most power over all other two. They are the one that got most of the fundings, and got most of the followers from the student ( now you realize where those feminist slaves in university comes from). Had these people from the third wing (which includes the feminist) fires any complain at other two wings for being anything, consequences will be occured. I must admit there are many talented young people in the department, yet as soon as I went on attack any feminist philosopher, I will get completely suspressed by these people. This is how serious the “intuition”w wing indoctrination is. HAHA
I must give respect to the feminist lecturer that bullshited in my lecture, because she disguised herself so perfectly I was nearly fooled by her, that she wasn’t any extremist. (She claim that feminist is not a good name for a equal gender right movement, since it is biased to woman). Only after reading her course material I realize that, no matter how she (or any feminist) say they care about men’s right, if they continue to use such feminist framework to look at the work( such as female are always victim), it is all a illusion . In fact, this whole “intuition” wing does not only consist of feminist, but also white knight style religious conservative as well. As the voice of men always says, the true problem with these people are not wheter they are man cutting feminist or not, but whether they even attempts to look at the world rationally. We must not allow either to control the society.
I just wish there was a way to mail the parents and the councils that grant student loans, scholarships, and grants about what their kids are involved in, and what their kids have to deal with in order to go to U of T. hordes of angry parents (Even if it’s only 20%) calling the dean and provost would for damned sure get results, as would inquiries from the Canada Student Loans centre. Note that Laurel Broten also needs to be called to task for NOT investigating this.
fellow men, I am overjoyed to have found this site, many of your comments are inspiring and truthful. Feminism or Feminazism is a plague that i believe was one of the causes for the downfall of my marriage which others of you may have also had to deal with. I’d like to offer some perspective, it pertains to another article i read on this site but i would like to comment on this article. An article about the “disposibility of men” an article about it’s significance and somehow benefits mentioned by Lucia Maria, who is an imbecile and yet another brainwashed feminist. Men’s “disposability” is nothing new obviously it’s history both appalled and saddened me. Are we not be as valuable as women? are we really just slaves or disposable? i detest it for one, We men are no less valuable than woman i was taught this and thought for many years it was true, it’s one of the reasons i joined the marine corps. The earth is prosperous though we have about 7 billion people! and statistically more women, i say if they are begging to be in wars, and employed in life threatening jobs let them, men do not have to be disposable regardless though. We are all humans, why can’t we be one? if there is a god or isn’t a god, doesn’t matter the least we could do as men and women is to be brothers and sisters and live in peace and happiness. As for this article it does strike a blow to feminazism thank god, it’s sad what some women have become, if only equality, responsibility, honor were easier to obtain than this. It is good to have sites like these that speak up for men god knows i’ll explode if i hear women say “man up” one more time. Brothers keep your head up things will hopefully only get better.
She’s a c–t. Nuff said.
The details behaviour recorded about Vanja Krajina is some of the most disturbing I have seen in 30+ years of professional work with truly damaged and disturbed people.
It is not just the conduct but the aire of enjoyment that is most disturbing. Inflicting damage without glee is worrying, doing it for pleasure is a red flag. I hope that the University Authorities watch her carefully, to ensure she is not allowed access to Vulnerable Adults sort children as part of her student career.
Wow! What a name! Vanja Krajina. I think it translates to “Cramped Vagina.” No relaxed person would be that angry over someone just attending a lecture, unless they had some body issues they need tending to.