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Spanish feminist establishment is shaking

The Spanish feminist reign of terror begins with a tragedy.

On March 11, 2004, three days before the elections, ten bombs explode in Madrid trains at 7:37 AM local time, killing 191 people and wounding over 1800[1].

A significant portion of the Spanish electorate thought that the attack took place because of the country’s engagement into the so-called “war on terror.” Whether this was true or not it’s up for discussion and of little importance at the end of the day. What is of high importance is that the aforementioned portion of the Spanish electorate shifted their vote toward the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party (PSOE – Partido Socialista Obrero Español), lead by Don José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, who promised to withdraw the country from the “war on terror.”

Despite the fact that the center-right moderate party was the favorite, the promise made by the Left was swallowed by many naïve Spaniards and the socialists won the elections. As it happens each time the Left wins the elections in Europe, the new government came with a lot of radical feminists and with their own war. Not a war on terror – but a terrorizing war on men.

The front door of the Ministry for EqualityThey founded the Ministry for Equality – The Women’s Institute (Ministerio de Igualdad – Instituto de la Mujer). Not kidding, the Women’s Institute was the sole authority of the Ministry for Equality. This is a photo taken at the front door of the Ministry’s headquarters.

Then, in December 2004, when the Madrid tragedy was still fresh in people’s minds, the Zapatero government pushed the “Organic Act of Integrated Protection Measures against Gender Violence” (la Ley Integral contra la Violencia de Género) and through that law, Courts of “Violence against Women” have been established[2]. This law makes VAWA or The Istanbul Convention to look like innocent fluffy stuff.

The article 1.1 (The object of the law) in this Law reads as follows:

This Act aims to act against violence as a manifestation of discrimination, the inequality and power relations of men over women, is exerted on them by those who are or have been their spouses or who are or have been linked to them by similar affective relationships, even without cohabitation.

Now, I may not be the best Spanish speaker but I am pretty sure that I translated this correctly. So this article basically says that men are always at fault and women are always victims and all that it takes as a man to be considered a perpetrator of “gender violence” is for woman, any woman, to say so. And this is made clear right from the get go in the first article.

Article 20, concerning the judicial assistance, reads as follows:

Women victims of domestic violence who have insufficient resources to litigate, under the terms established by Law […], are entitled to free representation by defense counsel and solicitor in all administrative processes and procedures that have direct or indirect cause the violence suffered. In these cases one direction assume the defense counsel of the victim. This right will also assist the beneficiaries in case of death of the victim. In any case, the legal defense will be ensured for free and immediately and it shall be dedicated to all victims of domestic violence, upon request, subject to that if not recognized after the right to legal aid, they must pay the attorney’s fees incurred by his speech.

In other words, if you are a woman that wants to divorce and have no money of your own but want to get the house, the kids, the savings and virtually all your husband’s possessions, claim that you are victim of “gender violence” and the benevolent Socialist state will put your husband in prison, the kids will never see him again, the state will pay for your lawyers and those lawyers have all the legal means to make sure that you get everything. You don’t even have to be a nice person. You can be the one who was abusive in the relationship. It doesn’t matter. If you have the vagina, you just say you want everything and the Socialist state will trust your word regardless of any evidence.

Article 21.1 and 21.4 concerning the working rights and social security, read as follows:

21.1: A woman victim of domestic violence shall be entitled, under the terms provided in the Workers’ Statute, reduction or rearrangement of working time, geographic mobility, changing workplace, the suspension of the employment with job reservation and termination of contract.

21.4: Absences or lateness to work due to physical or psychological situation resulting from domestic violence are considered justified when so determined by social care services or health services, as appropriate, notwithstanding that such absences are reported by the employee to the company at the earliest.

In other words, if you are woman that has a job but wants to work less, you can make a “gender violence” allegation. By doing that, an innocent man goes to prison but you, lady, get to work less (the difference in salary being paid by the state or the employer forced to pay you regardless of how much you work, depending on the region). Remember: No proof at all is needed for all this. You just have to be a woman and make an allegation against a man. It doesn’t have to be true or even credible.

Article 22 takes care of the “victims” that don’t have a job but want one. So, are you a woman that can’t find a job in Spain? Make an allegation of “gender violence” against any random man and the state will give you job.

Moreover, are you a Spanish woman who doesn’t want to work but wants some money? Make an allegation of “gender violence” against any random man and, under article 27 of this law, you get free money from the State. Are you a woman that wants a house paid by the State? Article 28 gives you this opportunity if you say you are a victim of gender violence. Who passes judgments on these claims? Article 43.1 makes it clear:

In every region there will be one or more Courts of Violence against Women, based in the capital of the former and jurisdiction throughout its territory.

So if you are a Spanish woman wanting something, all you have to do is go to a Court of Violence Against Women, name a random man to go to jail, and then start demanding free stuff from the State. A feminist-trained judge will make sure you get it.

Are you a Spanish woman and you want to remove the father completely from the lives of your children? No problem, Articles 65 and 66 make sure you get the power to do so.

Are you a father and want to remove an abusive mother from the lives of your children? Tough luck. If you open your mouth, the kids will undoubtedly go to her regardless of your evidence. In fact, you are not even allowed to speak in the Court if you are a man, let alone call witnesses, present evidence and all the other normal things one would expect in a Court. Due process for men in Spain became a privilege, not a fundamental right.

What was the result? Well, what has always been the historical result when you provide people with legal immunity and incentives to lie?

The Spanish society was badly wounded, probably irreparably. In 2010, even the mainstream media had to admit to a serious problem. The most important newspapers in Spain reported that 350 false accusations of “gender violence” were made each day. This means 127,750 false accusations per year. This means that almost 130,000 innocent men went to prison for at least 48 hours, just because a woman said so.

A man named José Manuel Tome was falsely accused of “gender violence” 22 times[3]. This man was in jail once in two or three week-ends because his ex-wife simply didn’t want him having anything to do with their daughter’s upbringing.

The motives behind all of these are, and have always been, exactly what defines all of the feminists’ actions: desire to get more money and the hatred of men. Even the European Commission noticed that (and nobody can say that the European Commission is a defender of men by any means)[4]. Over 900 million euros (roughly 1.2 billion US dollars) from European taxpayers’ money have been poured into Spanish feminist programs.

A Men’s Rights advocate from Sevilla, Andalusia, stated for the Spanish mainstream media in 2010[4]:

Europe needs to investigate what is happening in Spain. Because the fight against abuse is linked to a political strategy from which much money is distributed to those who subscribe to gender ideology.

By “Europe” he means the European Commission and by “gender ideology” he means feminism. In fact, the word “feminazi” is now widely popular among Spaniards and there are very few people nowadays in Spain who refer to the ideology of hate commonly referred as “feminism” in other terms than “feminazism” or “femofascism”. The Spaniards are right.

Tatiana Torrejón from the Economic and Social Council (Consejo Económico y Social) wrote in 2008 an official report in which she openly described the fraud mechanisms that provide incentives for false allegations. But, in the seasoned feminist tradition, the report was censored[5] after a huge outcry from feminist organizations resulted in compliance from the Socialist State.

The policemen’s association (ASIGC) often talked about the fact that their main impediment when attempting to investigate a “gender violence” situation was coming from the alleged victims themselves who were often saying something along the lines of: “I don’t need the investigation – I only need to make the accusation as the lawyer instructed me”.

Eventually, several judges started refusing to be used as instruments for violation of human rights and of child abuse, and talked. Maria Sanahuja, a judge in the Barcelona (Catalonia) province, broke the silence and said it outright[6]:

The gender violence law is a disgusting violation of human rights in Spain. It is a madness that creates abuse and destroys the burden of proof. We are abusing of thousands of children, thousands of fathers, thousands of men, thousands of grandfathers. […] Even men are people!

The fact that she said that even men are people brought a genuine shit-storm on her and the feminists truly hate her guts to this day. The family judge Francisco Serrano Castro frequently called the situation in Spain “the Stalinism of gender”[7] and he had this to say on a national Spanish TV station[8]:

[Having] a penal code with different laws for different categories of persons existed in 20th century Europe only under Nazism and Stalinism. [...] Illegal detentions, suicides of men – this is genocide.  Society does not realize that human rights are being violated. I fight against violence, but I also fight against what some sectors are doing to criminalize family and men.

If only we could clone Mr. Francisco Castro and Mrs. Sanahuja two or three million times and spread them worldwide, feminism would disappear in less than 6 months. Mr. Serrano paid the price for opposing the feminist viewpoint personally. In one case, the divorced father asked for access to his child to take him to a religious procession. The “special judge” from the Court of Violence Against Women was on vacation, so judge Serrano took the case temporarily and granted the father access to the child.

For that, the mother sued the judge, and she won. Serrano was penalized with 10 years suspension for violating the “rights” of a “gender violence victim.”

The feminist lobby actively opposed and attempted to prevent, through government coercion, any action be taken against parental alienation or acknowledgment of child abuse by mothers. The Spanish feminist lobby went as far as to deny that there is any child in Spain that has been abused by a mother. Fortunately enough, the Courts followed the recommendations of the European Court of Human Rights, instead of the instructions provided by the Socialist-Feminist Zapatero government.

Zapatero, the Prime Minister and the leader of the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party bragged about this law and was reelected in 2008 for a second term. It seemed that men’s rights would never be addressed.

But, on July 23, 2008, a police operation saved a 13-year old child who was sodomized by a band of pedophiles. One of the arrested was the psychologist Jorge Corsi; a highly influential feminist ideologue, a member of a commission that defined the “gender violence” law, director of Specialization in Family Violence in the School of Psychology, author of 5 books and of a paper against the protection of children from parental alienation. He is now in jail with definitive sentence for child sexual abuse.

So the “father” of the ideological trash that tormented Spanish society for almost 7 years turned out to be a pedophile. Who would’ve thought?

His conviction following overwhelmingly clear evidence, amplified the outrage against the “gender violence” bullshit and “Stop feminazis!” started to appear on walls and the term “Guantanamo feminist”[9] started to be openly used in Spain, where 600 men per year committed suicide.

Since Spain is a federation, the new regional elections showed a massive decrease in support for the Left and an all-time high support for the Right. Region after region formed new governments that approved joint custody laws, although the central government tried really hard to stop them.

Finally, new general elections on November 20, 2011, allowed the Spanish citizens to vote for stopping the social and economical disaster and the party that gave power to feminists (the Left) received the biggest electoral debacle in the entire history of Spain.

Fixing things will be a long process. The Catalan Grandfather Association for Joint Custody filed a lawsuit asserting that what happened in Spain “constitutes alleged genocide crimes, crimes against humanity with inhuman and degrading treatment of citizens.” The suit asks that the allegations be “forwarded to the International Criminal Court, to proceed to appoint a special tribunal to prosecute crimes committed under the Zapatero government against more than one million citizens persecuted for being male” in view of “a political activity that incites hatred against males” and the “implementation of exceptions forbidden by the Constitution and International Treaties”.

So, basically, the feminists are facing criminal charges in The Hague, alongside all the merciless dictators of the world. The feminists’ place is in the box of the accused in such a tribunal and we hope the Spanish Men’s Rights groups win the case.

Is this a story with a happy ending? Not so fast. Just a few days ago, a Spanish politician was crushed for daring to question the feminist dogma[10]. The Left might have lost the elections and the “gender violence” law is now kept in check by the local governments, but they still have enough seats in the Parliament to block any attempt to repeal the law entirely. Moreover, the Left controls the Constitutional Court and, consequently, got their misandric law declared constitutional so abolishing it will be even more difficult. Not to mention that the media is still largely controlled by feminists so they can crush anyone who calls them out on their lies and propaganda.

Times are changing in Spain and if the MRAs from Spain don’t stop (and it’s hard to believe that they’ll stop), Spain might become the first feminist-free country this decade. The majority of the public hates them, hate their ideology and the men’s rights group from Spain actually made the mainstream media, judges, lawyers and other important figures to refer to feminists as “gender ideologues”, gender Stalinists, Guantanamo feminists and femofascists.

Ladies and gentlemen, on the behalf of AVfM, let’s congratulate the passionate men and women of Spain who have fought and keep on fighting against bigotry and Stalinist-inspired legislation that harms men, boys, families and the society as a whole. Their achievements are truly inspiring! The feminists have “The Swedish model” to promote their totalitarian view of the world but, within a few years, we might start talking about “The Spanish model” within the MRM and outside of it to promote our way of understanding the world.

Here is an excellent Danish documentary (it is in English and with English subs during the talks in Spanish)  made in 2010 regarding the „gender violence” law and the level of desperation among the Spanish men and judges that are sick of, and fed up with, feminist lies:

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings

[2] http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/lo1-2004.t5.html#c4

[3] http://www.elconfidencial.com/sociedad/espana-conmueve-europa-denuncias-maltrato-falsas-20100823-68813.html

[4] http://www.diariodesevilla.es/sevilla/detail.php?id=598410

[5] http://sociedad.elpais.com/sociedad/2008/04/22/actualidad/1208815206_850215.html

[6] http://elpais.com/diario/2008/12/22/opinion/1229900405_850215.html

[7] http://plataformaporlaigualdad.es/?p=109

[8] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rku9fdMyqMc – Judge Francisco Castro’s entire speech

[9] http://www.centriantiviolenza.eu/comunicazionedigenere/la-guantanamo-femminista/

[10] http://www.returnofkings.com/7421/spanish-politician-is-crushed-for-questioning-feminist-dogma

About Lucian Vâlsan

Hated by the local feminists, despised by most ideologues and appreciated by high profile debate societies, Lucian Vâlsan is the Romanian guy that will tell you unapologetically that misandry has no language barrier. He is also the European News Director for AVfM, the host of The Voice of Europe radio program, and can be reached at lucian@avoiceformen.com .

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  • Robert St. Estephe

    There is a specific program like this in the US underway — probably funded by VAWA. “Justice Centers” or something like that being piggybacked onto Family courts across the US. It is a Soviet style total control effort that will increase the control of all who come anywhere near CPS, family court and, I would expect, the “school nurse.” This is a huge component in the totalitarian takeover. Gun control, Agenda 21, natural food raids, harassment of farmers under weird Federal and State codes, seizure of property under various guises, gun control, use of psychiatry to over-diagnose (falsely diagnose) the majority of US citizens, especially children (“Teen Screen”), all work together. There is an agenda (well documented) to diagnose all who do not subscribe to politically correct views as mentally ill.

    • greg

      Are you in Chicago Robert??

  • Redfield

    Reply to Pure Cotton
    I think your focus is probably 100% right, apologies about getting your tag wrong by the way, good to have this sort of imput …
    cheers

  • Spark

    It’s simply terrifying that a system like that could even be out in place, not to mention survive as long as it did.
    >They founded the Ministry for Equality – The Women’s Institute (Ministerio de Igualdad – Instituto de la Mujer). Not kidding, the Women’s Institute was the sole authority of the Ministry for Equality.
    Think that’s bad? Try Germany. We don’t even have any sort of Ministry for Equality, just a flat out Ministry for Women, well technically it’s for women, seniors, family and youth but as the name implies it does jack shit for men except it does care a little bit about fathers or rather their utility.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      I know Germany (and the UK) have the Ministry for Women. You have to give credit to the Spanish Left for at least trying to keep the appearances :))

    • Sting Chameleon

      We have the SERNAM (Servicio Nacional de la Mujer), but it’s pretty tame compared to what’s going on in Spain.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Correctrix/videos Correctrix

    I got quite a way through this article, but then the constant repetition of ‘Socialist’ just got too tedious. It’s obviously supposed to be scary, but it just makes you sound like an American teabagger, Lucian. When your agenda is clearly as much about opposing progressive politics as it is about men’s rights, I can’t trust your criticisms of that particular government to be free of bias. Try being less of an ideologue.

    • Grumpy Old Man

      What’s an American Tea bagger?

      Is that a derogatory term?

      The problem I see with Socialism Is who will do the dirty work without being coerced by violence.

      Just saying

      • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

        “Tea bagger” is a derogatory term for members of a right/conservative movement in America that calls itself the Tea Party and people who dislike them call them Tea Bagger (which is something of an Americanism for “scrotum”).

        I have friends who are supporters of the Tea Party. Some of them are good people. Some of them are batty. I don’t support calling them names. I agree with some of the things they say and disagree with others.

        These left/right quarrels are generally not healthy in my view. If people think no one on the left has anything valuable to say or contribute, or no one on the right brings any ideas to the table worth hearing, then, we’re doomed on this whole thing. Personally I will work with anyone of (almost) any political and (almost) any religious viewpoint if they support the same goals I do, or most of them.

        • Grumpy Old Man

          Thx Dean, I know what it is. I was throwing a rhetorical question to Correctrix in the hope she would see the contradictions in her comment. Asking someone not to be an ideologue then using a derogatory term to a group you oppose seems in conflict. Then seeing the rest of her comments with caricatures and insults confirms to me she is an ideologue herself. She has completely trashed this thread in my opinion and as far as I’m concerned can FUCK OFF.

    • Astrokid

      Lucian uses the word:
      1) to refer to the party’s name.. which is unavoidable
      2) as ‘Socialist state’ twice.
      He’s not claiming to be free of bias. Nobody is free of bias. And that makes him an ideologue to you?
      Are you really this sensitive? A short while ago, you complained about how Paul shouldnt have used certain humor that targeted Monica L and another woman whose name I cant recall now.
      This website is a male space. This is how MRM men talk. Its going to be frank and brutal, but aimed at determining truth. We appreciate all the support, but you need to adjust to this space, not the other way round.

      • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

        Sorry, I don’t have enough up votes for your comment.

    • Winstone

      Correctrix, please notice that “socialism” in Europe has not the same meaning as “socialism” in USA. The US left party would be a moderate party in Europe.

      • Robert Crayle

        Correctrix is Australian.
        But yes, the term is hard to pin down for national divides (and since the early 1970’s has been shifted wildly).

    • napocapo69

      Dear Correxrix, dear Lucian.
      I see it this way.
      Lucian is doing a great job, both as an editor of AVFM and host of Europe branch of AVFM radio. I know how much time consuming and stresfull it is to do researches, to write articles and setting up initiatives.

      And Lucian has political beliefs, as everyone. He is most likely on the right side. That’s completely fine. And since I trust his intelligence as much as I trust everyone’s else, I think his political stance comes from “chosing the worst party”, i.e, the one that matches his values at a given time.

      That being said, I agree with you that Lucian, as an editor, should have the least possible biased approach when writing articles, since they should reflect a non partisan editorial line. At the same time he is free to express his “partisan” views when commenting, as anyone else.
      I admit that reading sentences that correlate misandric policies to the left, it might be harsh, for you, but also for me, having dealt with left politics for 20 years.
      But unfortunately this is a truth.

      Corretrix you have to admit that there is a general political bias that correlates all bad policies and behaviours to the “right”, pretty much similar to the common cultural bias that correlates all violence to “men”. It is the same stuff.

      It is group identity, it is fanatism.

      When a left oriented individual catches a red pill with a bad taste, then some defensive reaction pops out.

      Yes, the article could have been written in a slightly more “neutral” way, even because every intelligent person should able to correlate Zapatero to the left, and it is not needed to enpahsize it. This not for political correctenss but for sake of honesty, because otherwise we should deal with all the “right” crap. In my country the shared parenting law has been drafted by the “Right” and I credit them for this; but also the DV hysteria has been promoted by the right minister of women, with a shameful DV survey.

      I have a friend of mine that believes that feminism should be defeated by a Leninist-Marxist perspective. Everything is possible with imagination.

      I’m simply more prone to believe that misandry can be defeated only by spreading truth and exposing liars and violent people, for what they do, not what they proclaim.

      • Grumpy Old Man

        Napocapo
        I always like your perspectives and feedback but I have to disagree on one point here. Men should call them as they see them and hell be damned, because if we don’t we are no different than the rest of the lemmings.

        General comment
        If you’re from the left perspective call it out as you see it if you’re from the right perspective do the same, the rest is pussy footing around PC and does not aim at the target.

        • napocapo69

          “Men should call them as they see them and hell be damned, because if we don’t we are no different than the rest of the lemmings.”

          I do not disagree with that. I was meaning something slighlty different, but it is ok.

          “If you’re from the left perspective call it out as you see it if you’re from the right perspective do the same, the rest is pussy footing around PC and does not aim at the target.”

          Completely agree. Sadly in my case I’ve not anymore any political reference. ;-)

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      Oh do fuck off. I have a suggestion for you. Try growing up with a very personal and intimate understanding of life in an Eastern block nation, both from days of Communism and through the liberation.

      To people like you, “socialism” is a word Sean Hannity or some other TV pundit says till it annoys you. You might feel different if you had Russian tanks in your childhood memories, and if you were watching Marxists (you know, generally the same people that enslaved places like Romania) creep back into favor.

      I edited that article, and I did not see socialist anywhere it didn’t belong. And if I take you literally, that you did not even read it all, your commentary on it is made worthless by that fact.

      I don’t pretend to speak at all for Lucian here, this is all just from me. But if you don’t know enough about history or fucking geography to know the path of your “progressive politics” then it is hard to fucking imagine what you are doing here in the first place,

      Please, get a clue.

  • Bombay

    Lucian does not sound at all like a person from the teabag movement. He sounds more like Hayek and how he used the term socialist.

  • RMM

    Something that readers here will find interesting is how the mainstream media in Spain, regardless of their “official” affiliation (right-, left-, or self-leaning), has been following the same script when it comes to the support of the feminazi establishment.

    For example, the term “Violencia de Género” (gender violence) is passé these days, and is now commonly referred to as “Violencia Machista”.

    “Machista” is the “macho” (i.e., male) counterpart to the “Feminista” (i.e., feminist, obviously), and a common “insult” that has been levered against males critizicing females, in Spain, for as long as I can remember. A kind of “male supremacist” if you will (through it’s “offensive” to tell feminists they’re female supremacists, go figure).

    The curious thing about this term is _how_ it magically appeared, seemingly out of nowhere, around the end of 2006 and then it was everywhere in the MSM. A quick google trends will show how “Violencia de Genero” has been around for a long while, and represented in the news through the spanish speaking world to a varying degree. “Violencia Machista” is an exclusively Spaniard term – and really does more to show how the whole debacle has been framed than any other two words one could choose would. We’re a bunch of “Machistas”, and we’re all guilty of the worst their hamster-powered minds can conceive.

    Of course, feminists or not, the entire European periphery is getting a massive economic reality check that’s going to make quite a few wheels fall off. Just ask Cyprus.

    Oh, one last thing to add to the mix. Claiming “machist violence” is a quick way to get a work and residence permit, and a 400€ tip for the troubles. As you can imagine, abuse of that wee little piece of legislation has been plentiful (late last year they busted up a gang doing just that – they’d promise money to moroccan men if they’d let cupcake do her thing with the promise of recanting later once the woman had her papers, only to turn around and keep extorting money from them).

    • Sting Chameleon

      That phrase isn’t a new term and has been around Latinamerica for as long as I remember (mostly in Argentina and Chile). The mainstream media occasionally trots it out and during the Bachelet administration we got hammered with it to kingdom come. I’m afraid she’ll get re-elected next year and with that, it will be the beginning of the end for Chilean men.

      • RMM

        Interesting, thanks for the correction! Clearly Google Trends doesn’t pick up everything, but I did find it striking that GT reports “Violencia Machista” only being used in Spain *recently*. I suppose the term is rotated in and out of MSM to avoid bigotry fatigue – the undercurrent of anger and backslash at this particular soundbite is growing more palpable these days in Spain.

        I can’t remember “Violencia Machista” being trotted out in the MSM in Spain before the Zapatitos government though.

  • Rebus

    Extraordinary article, Lucian. I am Spanish and I am very impressed by the deep knowledge that you have of Spain. See the report made ​​by the Danes because nobody dares to do in Spain. It is tremendous. Spain is a feminazi hell. Help!

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      I do not understand why you put the documentary again, considering that I already placed it at the end of the article.
      But anyway, thank you for the appreciations and I hope you will call in to the Voice of Europe radio show on Friday at 8PM Spain time. We will be talking about the Spanish model :)

    • Sting Chameleon

      There has been some pretty decent media coverage in Spain from what I could gather, take a look at this programme made by Telemadrid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaHT6sGVNKM

  • Rebus

    I put the documentary again because Google indexes documents according to the number of them. The more times you put them, above the ranks . It´s necesary that this documentary to be seen ;-) I´d like to call in to the Voice of Europe but my english is very very poor. Thanks, Lucian!!

    • napocapo69

      Do not be shy and dial in next time.
      Your english can’t be worst than mine.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      I see.
      Well, if you do not trust your English, please contact me at lucian@avoiceformen.com a maybe we can work it out through other forms – written statement that I can correct and read live, recorded rant etc..
      I would really want to have a Spanish perspective in the show.

  • Rebus

    Great! I am going to do one thing: I’ll talk to Antonia Carrasco, leader of the Association for the men who defend us. She has excellent English and knows a lot about our problem. I’ll tell her to contact you, Lucian, Ok?

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      In case he does not see this, I am sure he won’t mind.

    • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

      That would be excellent!

  • feeriker

    Bewildered said:

    Wait ! this poor girl must have been sexually molested by an evil male when she was a little girl so it must be the trauma of the incident/incidents that made her behave the way she did.Where’s your empathy ?

    Or, just as likely, she was raised in a household where Daddy was a repressed prude who punished her for even the vaguest expression of sexual awareness. Either way, it was All The Patriarchy’s Fault. :)~

    • Near Earth Object

      Pretzel Logic … All things—HAVE TO—lead back to the Oppression of the Evil Patriarchy.

  • Rebus

    A warning: The Spanish government wants to export it’s inhumane laws of gender to the rest of Europe. And be warned that Europe is receptive.The spaniards are already dead and we don´t have solution but you can still stop this crazy. Fight, Lucian, fight or your people will end up like us.

    • napocapo69

      Well actually the process is already going on.
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      It is a globally manufactured product (UN, CEDAW) that is sold in every country, and Spain has been just one of the first customer.

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  • Rebus

    True, but Spain is pushing hard to export their lethal law. You have to fight against Spain if you don´t want to speed up the process. You have to alert the authorities (and people) of what is happening in Spain. We are suffering a humanitarian disaster. We have even sued the law of gender before the Strasbourg Court of Human Rights but have rejected demand. The socialist government sent to the designer of the law as judge into the ECHR (TEDH in spanish). He braked all demands. His name is Luis Lopez Guerra. His appointment was challenged by not being impartial but demand was ignored.

    http://misrizos.blogspot.com.es/2011/05/eurodemanda-al-estado-espanol-ante-el-t.html

    http://misrizos.blogspot.com.es/2011/07/comunicado-del-equipo-de-la-eurodemanda.html

    This socialist judge(feminazi) into the ECHR that is stopping the demands. This judge made the lethal Spanish law of gender. How will sentence against himself??? Here the impugnation:

    http://www.lexureditorial.com/noticias/0709/10182415.htm

    With the google traductor is possible that you can read the text

    • napocapo69

      Dear Rebus, we’ll do what we can. Anyhow you should do anything possible to communicate your initiatives in English so that we can benefit of language multiplier effect.

      That being said, an advice for you.
      Since discrimination against men is legal in Europe, I think that any appeal based on pure invocation of the principle of non discrimination before the law is doomed to fail.

      I know it sound bad, but it is like that.

      Our enlightened feminist elite has already defined a principle of “gender equality” that overrules the concept of not discrimination of individuals before the law.

      This must be clear.

      This is the reason why, today, any appeal referring to dicriminations against men in the workplace or in the family, has no chances to be accepted.

      As you should know, until lately, in most of European countries women were allowed to retire 5 years earlier than men; an economic nonsense and a discrimination that lead, in average, a woman to benefit of retirement 10 years more than a man. Lately EU has ruled that the men and women should retire at the same age. You wonder “becasue of discrimination against men”? NO. Because of pure financial sustainability and because “WITH THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM WOMEN COULD HAVE LOWER RETIREMENT WAGE THAN MEN FOR LACK OF CONTRIBUTIONS”.

      That’s why we talk about institutional misandry.

      Am I suggesting to surrender? No.

      Here comes my suggestion.
      First: do not just push on the discrimination before the law, it will not work. There is no cultural support and you are dealing with real men-hating machines. You have to push on the violation of basic human rights, such as imprisonement without the due of process and violation of children parental rights.

      Second: along with that, spread the word in English! This will broader the audience and will make the seats of those judges and politicians less stable.

      Third: Network, use twitter/facebook and connect with English speaking communities

    • Sting Chameleon

      I can help you with translation of the articles, Rebus. My native language is Spanish (since I’m Chilean), so I’ll have no problem with the translation. This must be stopped dead on its tracks or we’ll be facing the same nightmare in Latinamerica.

  • Rebus

    The Impugnation against Luis Lopez Guerra in detail:

    http://www.lexureditorial.com/noticias/0704/16185508.htm

    He was the politic socialist that invented the spanish awful law of gender!!!

    How is posible that this man be judge of the ECRH???

    The feminazism are like a cancer. They are metastasized in the system. Are everywhere. Control everything.It corrupts everything.

  • Nostradormouse

    The Spanish Inquisition. The punchlines almost write themselves.

  • http://www.NewDemocracyWorld.org Dopesauce42

    On the topic of “adjustment,” here is how feminists use adjustment to demean the importance of fathers.

    In order to see whether it is important for a child to have a father in its life, one can compare children with and children without fathers from a large data base and make a direct comparison. This is analogous to comparing the admission rates of men and women at the university without looking within each department separately. If you do this you see that children with fathers in their life are better off.

    But the feminists say, no, we need to adjust for a whole lot of things, like for example the income of the family, i.e. look only at wealthy families and compare children with and without a father in them, and then separately look only at poor families and compare children with and without a father in them. (In practice, the families are broken up into many categories going from very wealthy to very poor and all the levels in between.)

    The problem here is that one of the ways that children benefit from having a father in their life is that the father contributes financially, making the child’s family wealthier. So, by adjusting for family income, this approach ignores the benefit of a father that comes from his financial contribution.

    Then, the feminists say one should also adjust for the factor of “having a male in the family” so that any contribution of the father that comes from his being just a male in the family is ignored.

    The more factors one adjusts for that have some relation to how fathers benefit their children, the less evidence of any specific “father benefit” will be seen. It means that all of the ways a father benefits his child are “explained away” as being due to things that are not “the father” but rather “money” or “a male–any male” etc. This is how feminists can show statistically that children don’t benefit from having their father in their life.

  • Bryant Suiskens

    They should show this to every feminist in the world. so maybe they realise how abominable they are. how much they really care about equality

    • thatguyoverthere

      They would of coarse dismiss it as “Now that women hold any kind of power the patriarchy has to take them down!” Blablahblah