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Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton: Don’t be THAT stupid

On July 11th, A Voice for Men received an email from a law firm claiming to represent a noxious hate group in the Edmonton, Alberta area of Canada calling themselves Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton. They are threatening AVfM with legal action for hosting a thread on our forum entitled “Don’t be that girl”; Men’s Rights Edmonton’s parody posters were uploaded to that thread.

This group, Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton, was founded in 2009, and has no affiliation at all with the respectable Stop Abusive and Violent Environments, a Washington DC-area group founded in 2008 which does good work that we fully support.

It’s an interesting coincidence that a group called “SAVE” in Canada that promotes demonizing literature targeted at men’s sexuality apparently stole the name of a legitimate group called SAVE that attempts to bring public attention to false accusations in the United States, and to non-sexist treatment under the law for all victims.

In fact, by the same logic they’re using to threaten AVfM, Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton are on shaky ground referring to themselves as “SAVE.” As such we’ve decided to rename the Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton. We have dropped the V from their acronym since that group is only a voice for the cash cow sexual abuse survivor and only while she can be milked for moolah. Let’s add in an “S” to reference their sociopathic propaganda and, viola! We have Edmonton’s Sexual Sociopaths’ Assault, or Edmonton’s SS-A, for short.

Edmonton’s SS-A has hired attorneys to attempt to censor and harass the Men’s Human Rights community, and exert control over discourse on the Internet. This is not just our own publication at stake, or even the men’s human rights movement itself, but anyone on the Internet who might happen to annoy Gender fascist groups. Or even anyone who just disseminates a witty meme with a photo they haven’t copyrighted.

Yes. Edmonton’s SS-A has declared war on Grumpy CatFirst they came for Insanity wolf…

The email, with a PDF attachment, is from the offices of Parlee McLaws, LLC drafted by Michael W. Sharp MWS.

In lieu of publishing the entire email received by our mail servers this is the list of angry demands from Edmonton’s SS-A:

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Edmonton’s SS-A’s demand we comply with their attempt to censor… the entire internet.

* The phrase “Don’t Be That Guy” is a trademark of the hate group forthwith known as Edmonton’s SS-A and any use of it on A Voice for Men violates their Trademark as well as their copyright.

* Any phrases such as “Don’t be THAT girl” or “Don’t be THAT [anything]” (like “Don’t be that shyster” or “Don’t be that false accuser,” “don’t be that abusive mother,” “don’t be that hatemongering feminist,” etc.) violate their trademark and harm their business and we should cease and desist and forbid any use of the “don’t be that” phrasing.

* Don’t print or reprint their photos in any way

* Deliver up for their inspection all information we have on three of our community members (including one known as “anon,” who, as everybody knows, has been a well-known and distinguished writer for many thousands of years).

* Termination of several of our community members’ accounts

* Undertake never to do or say anything naughty that might cause them discomfort again.

* Oh, and by the way, don’t print this letter either.

Now still we could have ignored all of this, but then at the bottom of the letter appeared a section so outrageous, we simply could not resist. They demanded that we have someone sign and date the above–although who exactly they are after is never clearly stated–and get it back to them no later than July 16th, 2013.

What follows is the response of the Editorial team at AVfM.

 

We, the editorial team at AVfM, acting in our capacity as duly authorized representatives of A Voice for Men, hereby refuse to undertake the commitments laid out in your letter dated July 11, 2013 – specifically, we refuse your request to cease mention or discussion or parody or satire of any reference or representation of “don’t be that guy.” Your claim of copyright or trademark on “Don’t be that…” is frivolous at best, as is your claim that it is in any way a threat to your client’s disgusting business. Edmonton’s SS-A (Formerly Sexual Assault Voices of Edmonton, founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008) is in our view a hate group that promotes sexual assault and sexist bigotry. Indeed, as a team we DECREE–EX-CATHEDRA, FOREVERMORE AND HENCEFORTH FOR ALL ETERNITY AMEN! that as matter of policy anyone acting under the authority of AVfM is to refuse to do anything whatsoever requested by or on behalf of the disgusting hate group known as Edmonton’s SS-A unless those requests involve things like telling them to go fly a kite or helping them dismantle their entire hatemongering sociopathic operation.

We furthermore solemnly swear and affirm that it shall from this day forward be the editorial policy of A Voice for Men that Edmonton’s SS-A shall always be referred to as a vile hate group, and/or a fascist group of censorship-minded thugs who hate freedom of expression and who seek to control discourse on the Internet so as to silence all criticism of their propaganda. We further decree, in response to this pernicious attempt at barratry by Edmonton’s SS-A that we believe that Edmonton’s SS-A’s business operation clearly intends and desires to manufacture more victims of sexual assault for profit and to marginalize unprofitable victims of sexual assault in Canada, and that Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and not in any way affiliated with the praiseworthy group SAVE founded in 2008), is otherwise a bunch of vile thugs who shouldn’t be allowed to operate any businesses at all within any respectable community anywhere in the world, and should probably be kept out of reach and out of sight of children if at all possible.

It will also henceforth be A Voice for Men’s goal to, at every opportunity, make completely truthful statements with full intent to discredit the business, wares, and services of Edmonton’s SS-A, and to bring direct public attention to the hateful, hurtful, damaging, and rape-encouraging and victim-blaming nature of Edmonton’s SS-A advertising, services, business, wares, and to use the phrase “Don’t be THAT…” as often as humanly possible in our headlines and materials in order to mock, deride, annoy, and otherwise satirize this vile hate group. We very much hope to see them completely change their business model (which we repeat, appears to be to create more victims of sexual assault in Canada), and we frankly hope to see them driven completely out of business, as their ilk has no place whatsoever in a decent, civilized society.

We further pledge to regularly alert the public that Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008) regularly operates its business in a manner contrary to ethical standards of business, commerce, or victims advocacy and in a manner directly antithetical to human rights for men, for children, and even for the women it so dishonestly purports to advocate for.

It shall furthermore be our goal in response to this puerile attempt at bullying and barratry and internet censorship to identify to the public the names and faces of all individuals in leadership positions within the Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008), in order to alert the world to the sort of vile, bigoted, sexist, racist thugs who run hatemongering campaigns like “Don’t Be That Guy.” Finally, please advise your client that as a direct result of their puerile attempts at censorship, we will be regularly featuring images and articles using the phrases “Don’t be that guy,” “Don’t be that girl,” “Don’t be that scumsucking shyster crap-weasel,” “Don’t be that hatemongering feminist bigot,” and so on for the direct purposes of satire, parody, and news reporting, and shall otherwise endeavor in any way we can think of to defame, humiliate, tarnish the reputation of, and generally embarrass the hatemongering crapweasels at Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008).

We also pledge to not just make regular use of the images of the despicable hate group known as Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008) for purposes of satire, criticism, political commentary, and news reporting purposes, but also for the purposes of, in any way legally and ethically allowable, driving these scumsucking vermin out of the public square and into the ashbin of history’s discarded lies as soon as humanly possible. Their “business,” such as it is, is no better than the “business” of Neo-Nazis or the Ku Klux Klan, and, like the neo-Nazis and the Klan, we hope to see them disappear from human civilization forever.

We will otherwise be refusing any and all requests made in this letter dated 11 July 2013, and are fully ready to do whatever it takes to continue to refuse to comply with the wishes of the vile hate group known as Edmonton’s SS-A (founded in 2009 and in no way affiliated with the praiseworthy SAVE of the Washington DC area, founded in 2008).

To you, SS-A, and indeed, to anyone who attempts to silence us, we respond: Don’t be that stupid.

Also, fuck you.

Thank you very much for your kind attention, and warmest regards.

The Editorial Team,

A Voice for Men

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  • Alek

    applause

  • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

    I dunno man, I think we may be going a little too hard on these guys. I mean, say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

    • Robert St. Estephe

      Hmmmmm. Fake rape, Nazis? I think you might be on to something. Here’s as golden oldie from AVfM touching on that very topic: The original feminazis? Fake rape cases – 1945
      http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/the-original-feminazis-fake-rape-cases-1945/

    • Laddition

      damn, that was funny. Nice one Dean.

      I guess that this is what happens when the weasel market is flooded. You get to hire a very low rent weasel to attack whoever you want on whatever claimed grounds for no money up front (a guess). It’s not like the weasel was earning any money anyway, so why not start firing off letters in hope of a windfall? Low rent waambulance chasing.

      Let’s hope that when this fails, the SSA decide to sue these weasels for not delivering, using another bunch of weasels.

      • http://www.genderratic.com Typhonblue (Asha James)

        It’s weasels all the way down.

        • Laddition

          (sorry about this, but it has to be done)

          that statement is weasily determined to be stoatally true

          • Robert Crayle

            BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

            I can just imagine you, beavering away at that pun…

    • JFinn

      And let’s also not forget — let’s not forget, Dude–that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city — that isn’t legal either.

  • Robert St. Estephe

    For anyone interested in censorship through bogus copyright claims—and how to fight it, the following link will take you to the single greatest piece of writing on that topic – by Groucho Marx. The letter you will read succeeded in embarrassing the Marx Brothers opponents so devastatingly they were instantly defeated. It is a joy to read, a classic.
    Groucho Marx, Letter to Warner Brothers: A Night in Casablanca
    http://www.chillingeffects.org/resource.cgi?ResourceID=31

  • JinnBottle

    Yes, yes, yes, YES, YEE-ESSS! I LOVE the not-only calling their bluff, but exposing their cards as marked.

    Could not be improved upon.

  • KeanoReeves

    Believe me folks, there are thousands of groups out there who do not want sexual abuse to stop. They only want to fight for stopping it. It is the fighting that gives them cash. Once sexual abuse is stopped, cash flow withers down.

  • dejour

    I don’t know if they can copyright such a phrase.

    I mean if you google “don’t be that guy/girl” you see other campaigns like:

    http://elissabraun.com/eastern/thatgirl.html

    http://elissabraun.com/eastern/thatguy.html

    The Eastern Illinois campaign started in spring 2009. SS-A’s campaign started in November 2010.

    • http://shiningpearlsofsomething.blogspot.com Suzanne McCarley

      If I may violate a copyright, “that scumsucking shyster crap-weasel” seems to have his work cut out for him.

    • strix

      So far as I know, you can trademark (but probably not copyright) phrases like that, but only within limited contexts, and maybe it’s already not distinctive enough (as so many other commentators have pointed out) — and it’s expensive.

      Have either SSA or Mr Sharp produced any evidence of their claim to trademark rights?

      • BenJames

        I believe that in the case of patents, it is a criminal offence to claim you have a patent when you dont.. it could also be criminal to claim a trademark when you have no legal right to it… If they cannot furnish proof of their trademark (of the non-retrospectively manufactured kind).. then their claim could be considered “mischevous” and may be subject to claims for damages of one kind or another.

    • http://fathers4fairness.blogspot.ca/ fathers4fairness

      Bravo! (but is elissa eva’s daughter?)

  • Robert St. Estephe

    Don’t be that shyster! Tell me, is “McLaws” really real? They are seeking McJustice for the McVictims I guess. Did these gender fascists get a McLaws discount McJustice coupon in their Happy Meal or something?

  • Robert St. Estephe

    How about Bill Burr? Are these morons going to try to sue him for masking the line “Don’t be that guy” famous preceding their attempted Krystallnacht false accuser apologist campaign. — Dumb, dumber, and feminist dumb.

    • Poester99

      Comedians are not allowed to hurt people’s feelings in Canada. It’s good place to avoid if you use edgy humor or roast hecklers.

      • http://vilo13.blogspot.com/ Lucian Vâlsan

        „Comedians are not allowed to hurt people’s feelings in Canada.” – Wait, what?!
        And I thought the EU is a sad place…

      • criolle johnny

        I had a visiting Canadian college professor. I ridiculed several of her stances (online) on education of adolescent males (among other things).
        She threatened to press charges for my disregard for her feelings. Half the class ridiculed her for THAT.
        It seems nobody briefed her on the difference between Canadian and U.S. laws. She was blissfully ignorant of the Bill of Rights.

      • Dingbatman

        This is actually a recent phenomenon due to the addition of provincial human rights tribunals. They are a quasi-judicial body that allow people to sue for relatively small amounts ($10,000-$20,000) from what I’ve seen… often for such ridiculous things as hurt feelings (offensive, hateful speech as they might call it). What an affront to free speech and our civil liberties. I read how a comedian in Vancouver had to pay $20,000 to some lesbian who was offended by his retorts to her heckles. We have a Bill of Rights too… and it is being trampled on.

  • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

    Actually, I wrote http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/5-women-to-avoid-on-valentines-day-dont-be-this-lady/ and http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/5-men-to-avoid-on-valentines-day-dont-be-this-guy/ in 2009.

    SS-A is infringing upon my copyrighted material!

    Someone should let the McLaws firm know. Also, is that really the firm’s name? Did fries come with that email?

    • Kimski

      A woman told her physician that her husband had developed a penchant for anal sex, and she wasn’t sure that it was a good idea.
      The doctor asked: “Do you enjoy it?”
      She said that she loves it.
      He asked: “Does it hurt?”
      She said that it feels wonderful.
      The doctor then told her: “Well, then there’s no reason that you shouldn’t have anal sex, just take care not to get pregnant.”
      The surprised woman asked: “You can get pregnant from anal sex?”
      The doctor replied: “Sure. Where do you think lawyers come from.”

      • http://pinterest.com/zetapersei/male-privilege/ Perseus

        LOL … ya got me with that one Kimsky

        Indeed

    • corbyworld

      “Did fries come with that email?”

      Well, we know one thing for sure… it was McSupidsized.

  • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

    Also, I’m pretty sure I didn’t come up with the phrase “Don’t be that guy.” I think it might have originated in a beer commercial.

    This BS reminds me of Donald Trump trying to trademark, “You’re fired!” Good grief.

    • http://www.avoiceformen.com August Løvenskiolds

      My own research found these previous uses (some commercial) of “Don’t be that guy”:

      This link to “don’t be that guy” from 2003 (scroll down about 80%). http://www.fark.com/comments/611733/Theme-Dont-be-that-guy-link-goes-to-example

      Here’s one describing t-shirts sold in 1999 with the phrase: http://whatsapictureworthblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/dont-be-that-guy.html

      A book, “Don’t be that guy”, published in April of 2009. http://www.randomhouse.com/book/122127/dont-be-that-guy-by-colin-nissan-and-sean-farrell

      • theoutside

        Good research.

      • corbyworld

        Someone should contact Rick McDonald and let him know that the SSS-A has infringed on his trademark. (That extra ‘S’ in there can stand for Sexist, or whatever else fits.)

        Maybe McDonald can get McLaws to represent him in his case too.

        Gym Rats – Don’t be That Guy (posted Feb 19th 2009)

        • corbyworld

          The vid exists, not sure what happened there… McKarma, I guess.

      • corbyworld

        Maybe Rick McDonald could also hire McLaws and take the SS-A to McCourt to see to it that his trademark is no longer infringed upon.

        “Gym Rats – Dont be That Guy” (posted Feb 19, 2009 on Youtube)

        watch?v=SnstNnqYp2M&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TL6meMng-mRq8

  • The WolfMan

    Once upon a time, before being banished to the pit for the vile crime of outspoken white male conservatism, (I am not guilty of conservatism, but if you aren’t on board with the narrative, what else could you be, right?) I was a law student. I dreamed of writing letters like this one day, signed – “The WolfMan, Esq.” I do not overstate the case when I say the sense of possible vindication, the rueful, disgusted “maybe it wasn’t for nothing” feelings a letter like this provokes chokes me up.
    I worked so hard to get there. They took it from me, because I was a man and they could. And there was nothing I could do about it, and they thought that was funny.
    There is no name too vile for these people, and I thank you for calling them out.

    • Dingbatman

      I would love to hear a more detailed account of your story. Is it available somewhere already? If not, perhaps you could share it.

  • J Galt

    Maybe they could redo this romper room song (or we could) there’s a great message in it to not be a “street player”

    I’m thinking of lyrics like “do be that honest person…don’t be that false accuser”
    Of course introducing the magic mirror might be a real turn on for feminists.

    • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

      Probably not. In my experience, sociopathic bullies do not like having a mirror held up to them.

      In fact, it makes them weally, weally ang-wee. Ergo, Gotell’s rage at the Edmonton group not stealing Gotell’s not original material.

  • Bamph

    This seems to be a real law firm. If you “Google” “ParleeMcLaws” you come up with over 60,000 hits and the top result leads to a firm in Calgary.
    http://www.parlee.com/

  • RamblinWreck

    Streisand Effect in play. Bad (good?) move there SS-A.

    On edit: Years ago to curb drunk driving in the Air Force, there was a “Don’t Be That Guy” campaign. I’ll try to dig it up to find out what year (as if it matters).

  • Bombay
    • OneHundredPercentCotton

      Don’t be THAT scum sucking ambulance chaser…

  • OneHundredPercentCotton

    Just a question, but can Law Firms be sued for threatening the Constitutional rights of others?

    • http://fathers4fairness.blogspot.ca/ fathers4fairness

      No, that’s how they make money. But I do wonder about a frivolous waste of the court’s time (if it ever gets there)?

  • Bombay

    Anyone/thing can be sued. What was done here is no different than what takes place in police stations and courts all over the world. Lawyers have their reputation for a good reason.

  • Altair

    There is an online database for Canadian trademarks

    http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/bscSrch.do?lang=eng

    A search for “don’t be that guy” yields no results, although not being Canadian, I can’t be sure if all trademarks are supposed to appear there.

    Good one calling their bluff, AVFM!

    • theoutside

      Great research move.

  • Aimee McGee

    :) I’ve only once successfully enforced copyright over a document…and was lucky because it was a bad quality photocopy of a resource created by my organisation with no attempt to alter anything.
    They didn’t want to pay £1 per copy, but the best joke is that was probably what the copy and labour cost them.
    One letter to their CEO and they rolled over. Last seen using free resources from another organisation.
    Looking forwards to making sammichs for those of us who watch this with entertainment!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DannyboyCdnMRA Dan Perrins

    I do believe SS-A is politely asking us, via their mouthpieces (at the firm Dewey Cheatem & How) [oops parody send ‘threatening’ papers please], to ensure the “Don’t be that girl” posters campaign becomes international.
    What do you say folks, should we lend them a hand and grant them SS-A their wishes?
    Now on to more serious matters.
    What the hell do you rape hype creating, lying, fraudulent statistic endorsing, violence advocating corrupt, cretinous, rapetards think you are doing?

    Demanding members names and such. Your bully tactics might work with politicians and those whom you have managed to blind with your histrionic displays. Unfortunately those tactics don’t work in these parts.

    What those antics do around here is get people motivated. It gets posters hung up, and hung bloody high.

    I wonder if the Alberta bar association knows of your letter. You did your due diligence and ensured your client wasn’t lying right Michael W. Sharp MWS? There is plenty of evidence that your client SS-A does NOT own the rights to the phrase in question.

    One last thing, if you see Gotel, tell her to go tell someone who believes her lies, cause they ain’t getting bought around here.

    P.S.
    Don’t be that girl.
    Don’t be that feminist
    Don’t be that shyster

    • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

      More like Michael (Not So) Sharp, Dan.

    • corbyworld

      can ”The Edmonton SS-A” be reversed to ”The Edmonton A-SS” ?

      You know, for clarity.

  • http://jmnzz.wordpress.com Jared White

    I wake up, start getting ready for work, check out the newest articles for AVfM, see all of the “don’t be that” titles, instantly realize what is going on without reading, and then can’t stop myself from chuckling.

    Guys…don’t be THAT funny.

  • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

    I am going to get scolded for this, because I am on vacation and supposed to be unplugged, but this morning I can’t resist.

    Can someone, one of the editors, please gather all the parody posters and include them in our downloadable poster section of this website?

    Let’s make them available to anyone who wants to print them and post anywhere. Thx.

    See you all in a week.

    • http://www.genderratic.com Typhonblue (Asha James)

      I already got the perfect image for the announcement.

      “Don’t be THAT poster!”

  • http://pinterest.com/zetapersei/male-privilege/ Perseus

    Win

    As good as it gets

    Marinating in Chesire grin …

    Eat the Sith

  • Raven01

    The dried up old prune that started the campaign in the 1st place is using someone else’s intellectual property.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Don't_Make_Me_a_Bad_Guy
    “The album was released October 28, 2008″

    The “Don’t be that guy” awareness campaign was launched on November 22, 2010.

    Not like integrity is to be expected from people whose livelihood depends on lies, deception and marketing.

    • Kimski

      The whole concept of feminism is one long story of continuously ripping off other sources, from the basics of their ideology to their slogans.
      You couldn’t ask for a better proof of the theory that men has done the original thinking and inventing throughout history, and women have found another use for what those men threw aside as useless, in their attempt to solve some specific problem.
      As far as ripping off others goes, feminism lists up there at the very top of the heap.

  • Robert St. Estephe

    Uh oh, I’m getting’ askeerd all of a sudden. REAL skeered. I cower in my man-cave all a’quiver expecting sudden assaults from Michael Kimmel (certified genius) who is, I’m sure, going to copyright the word “men” as well as Prof. Carol Gilligan (certified genius) who is, we can be sure of it, going to copyright the word “voice.” Quick, John and Paul, you gotta change the name from “A Voice for Men” – pronto. I’m askeeeeered. Whatta we goin’ tudoo????

    Here are some suggestions for the new (legally permissible) name; how ‘bout: “A Whimper for Cads” or “A Last Gasp for Cisgendered Dinosaurs” or “A Whine for Wrongarians,” or “A Sitting-down Whizz for Boy-Subs.”

    I dunno whatta do. I dunno whatta do. We’re doomed!

  • rexxthunder

    This is just legal scare tactics. I had a friend that made a shirt with the phase “Got Milf” on it. A milk company tried to sue him only to back off when the court date showed up. They know they will lose if it goes to courts. They’re just testing to see if we can be scared off.

    • http://fathers4fairness.blogspot.ca/ fathers4fairness

      LOL!

  • Jack Barnes

    To everyone at the Law offices of Parlee McLaws:
    You have by permission to kiss my hairy white ass and to go fuck yourselves with a pineapple. I hope you son’s of bitches/bitches got that.
    http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-An-Mra/3309466
    I was thinking of doing a story or two on your client. Hadn’t made up my mind yet. Until know.

  • http://pinterest.com/zetapersei/male-privilege/ Perseus
  • Phil in Utah

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

    After reading the list of demands.

  • Nightwing1029

    I think the “Don’t be that stupid” was a nice touch.
    The response had me laughing.

  • malcolm

    http://www.amazon.ca/Dont-Be-That-Girl-Confident/dp/1416949089
    Don’t Be That Girl: A Guide to Finding the Confident, Rational Girl Within [Hardcover]

    This is the real reason why feminists don’t want the phrase used. There’s a book by that name, and we can’t encourage women to find that confident rational girl within, otherwise feminism won’t work.

  • Bombay

    “Don’t Be That Guy: A Collection of 60 Annoying Guys We All Know and Wish We Didn’t”

    http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Be-That-Guy-Collection/dp/0307450368

    I wonder if the author of this copyrighted book (2009) is aware of their title being used in a public promotion campaign. AND that ss-a is making exclusive claim to that title.

    If there are be valid claims for damages, this would be it. How many people would have purchased this book, but were turned off because Do Not Be That Guy is now associated with rape? Thousands of books may have been sold but aren’t, due to the actions of the ss-a. LOL Copyright and damages, what more does a good lawsuit need?

    • Robert St. Estephe

      You’re on to something here. He should sue their wigs off.

      Heck, he should not only sue the Edmonton fake rape apologist gang, but he oughta sue the entire female “gender.” After all, as a “gender” they are all members of a mere “social construction” (not a sex) and should be exposed as mere abstractions rather than human beings (biological creatures with a sex).

      Cough up the cash, gender-things!

  • MGHOW_AU

    WOW! They know they don’t have a leg to stand on. They’re trying to intimidate you lot into signing a CONTRACT – asking you permission to be held under their legal authority to force you to cease and desist…

  • Jared Spencer

    A just response. Snappy writing, too.

  • Political Cynic

    Wait. Does this mean my planned “Teach Men not to be Straight” campaign will violate a trademark from other “Teach Men not to” campaigns? Oh dear…

    Sigh-the level of stupidity from people like the SS-A often amazes me. On the upside, if they’re THAT angry, AVFM must have hit a nerve or 20.

    Wonderful letter. And great graphic on this article as well.

  • Spark

    This has to be the most entertaining declaration of war I’ve ever read.

    • BenJames

      its a keeper alright. I’d love to see it presented in a mock press conference in a completely straightfaced understated manner, as if they were reading out a ‘normal’ statement.

      A few leading questions from the journalists to allow a bit of expansion here and there, and the regular use of Dont be that… in the innocent answers.

  • Andrew S.

    All the “Don’t be that” posters seem to have one thing in common. They are all representing upper class to upper middle class white women. Now if anyone knows anything about feminism it’s a movement that represents all women of all socioeconomic backgrounds.

    Just kidding. I would say you have got the look, the color, and the attitude down pat for whom feminism has benefited the most.

    • http://feministlies.wordpress.com/ Theaverageman

      When questioned about this feminists will typically just pull out a token WoC and say they’re being “inclusive” while leaving black men and women to deal with the product of a broken family structure.

  • yinyangbalance

    If they publically admit that this “Don’t Be That…” was started for Feminism unfairly against all men, then I think we can stop.

    But until they admit this can of worms was opened by State Feminism, and until they denounce their own bigotry….we should NOT stop. Not one of them wonders why its ok for them to do it but not okay for others to.

  • malcolm

    As another commenter mentioned, all the models in their original campaign are white.

    This isn’t surprising considering that feminism isn’t an inclusive philosophy. Feminists are an incredibly selfish bunch, and if they can’t imagine themselves in the role of the victim, then they show absolutely no care or concern. In western Canada, it’s aboriginal women who are overwhelmingly disadvantaged and taken advantage of, yet not a single aboriginal model was included.

    Perhaps it’s time some of these overprivileged old white biddies bought a tube of monistat 7 to cure that itch that they just seem can’t to handle and checked their privileges.

  • Mr.Zeph

    I must have missed the link–I thought that the full pdf was available somewhere?

  • billy

    I can’t stop laughing right now. This has gotten so ridiculous it’s just nuts. Who the hell has “Don’t Be That” copyrighted? I think someone pulled a childish joke on you guys to get you riled up.

    • Turbo

      It may seem ridiculous and it certainly is childish, but it is hardly likely to be a joke. Humor is a foreign concept to feminists.