Tory Shepherd writes for The Punch, an Australian online outlet for political news and opinion. One of her available online bios presents her as a worldly, devil-may-care sociopolitical guru, steeped in hard news coverage and life experience:
Tory Shepherd studied anthropology, then travelled, then studied some more, then travelled, then ended up with a cadetship at The Advertiser in 2006. She covered police rounds, politics, general news and health, while working at The Punch on the side. Now Tory is working full time at The Punch. She can be seen and heard on ABC local radio and Radio National, PM Live on Sky, and in other nooks and crannies. She is passionate about words, wine, chilli, soccer, and people (even the ones who hate her or keep praying for her soul).
Let’s add some more credentials to infuse some credibility into all the fluff. Feminist, ideologue, yellow journalist, liar.
It appears that recent articles presented here that exposed the corrupt ideological influence on Australian government have Tory’s panties in a bit of a twist (which is only sexist if she doesn’t wear them), and now she has gone on the attack in an adelaidenow.com article, rolling out big guns like Michael Flood, and, well, Michael Flood, to discredit the lot of us as a bunch of bitter, moustache twirling, hypervigilant, middle aged white guys who present an egregious threat to the rights of wimmen everywhere.
She softens her readers a little by feigning some understanding of men’s issues (more and more required these days), bestowing on us the following bits of her egalitarian largess:
“Men’s outcomes in some areas really are poor. Male suicide rates are three to four times higher, their life expectancy is lower. Girls often outperform boys at school. Males are more likely to be incarcerated, more likely to be addicted.”
And then of course, true to her agenda, she puts her foot in it with the following:
“But these genuine issues are not the ones that concern the new breed of men’s activists. These men are aggrieved because they see misandry – the hatred of males – everywhere in society, from government down.”
Oh really? Since Tory quite pointedly attacked AVfM as Paranoid Central, then she might have done some searching on our website and read into the more than 50 articles that either target these issues or make significant reference to them. She might have even stumbled onto our Facts Page, where these issues and a score of others are documented. Sorry, we don’t have a Misandry is Everywhere page. I will have to talk to our managing editor John about that, as I am sure it is his fault.
Generally speaking, though, we only tend to see misandry where it exists. For instance, I am having Chinese for lunch as I write. I note that my eggrolls are misandry free, as is the Kung Pao Shrimp. The young man who delivered did not “appear” to be a misandrist that I could tell. And while I am not quite through eating, I do not anticipate that my fortune cookie contains a secret misandric message. Admittedly, I cannot vouch for what is written in Mandarin on the Chinese side of the fortune.
I do, however, see misandry in a law that would have me in jail without bail because my wife got angry and accused me of giving her the silent treatment, which is exactly what is on the agenda in Australia, courtesy of real misandry. Color me creepy for seeing it that way, I was born like this.
Shepherd goes on to highlight all the things that make us paranoid and stinky and extreme, as well as white and male. Let’s take a look at her list, and see what we can make of it. I will try to stop the misandric voices in my head long enough to be more objective than Tory.
Women have never been worse off than men – this is a feminist lie and is part of the plot to subjugate men.
Well, so far – so good. Women never have been worse off than men. Well, only if you consider being dead, unhealthy or incarcerated as “worse off.” Did I mention dead? Remember those items you seemed to acknowledge about men, Tory? All that stuff about life expectancy, suicide, education, incarceration and addiction? Well, here in Texas those things rank pretty high in the “worse off” department. And when they happen to men a lot more than they happen to others we consider it a “worse off” qualification. Pretty much the gold standard as far as worse off goes. We can add plenty more, like conscription, combat death, workplace mortality, victimization by violence, etc.., etc.., but I don’t want to belabor the point.
Now, I don’t recall anyone here saying that this was all a feminist lie and part of a plot to “subjugate” men. Just that it is a feminist lie and used to con government and everyone else out of more special considerations and money. I know, I am just being extreme.
Women are all gold-diggers who use marriage and divorce to extort money from men.
Well, I should hand this one over to any one of the women that write for this site, but I can tell you what they will anyway. No one ever said that. You’re lying again. What has been said, and is quite true, is that the system is set up for women to do that very thing with State muscle behind them, and way too many of them do. So many, in fact, that marriage is a role of the dice on a man’s future. I just checked my fortune cookie. No misandry there.
Family law courts let women legally steal children from men, and let women get away with false accusations of child abuse.
Thanks for admitting it. Now go do your homework and come back with the complete laundry list of family court corruptions and we can talk some more.
Women routinely falsely accuse innocent men of rape.
Well, duh, yeah. A little hint here, Tory. If you want to paint men as having extreme ideas you need to allege they are saying things that are not true. Be sure they can’t instantly reference studies[1] and news stories[2] that completely back them up. Just saying.
Domestic violence statistics are warped; men are victims as much as women and women make false claims about violence in courts that are too inclined to believe them.
Same problem, Tory. Lordy mercy grrl, you got it bad, doncha? Not only are domestic violence statistics warped, so are the ideologues doing the warping. The problem is so pervasive, in fact, that the warping itself has been made the subject of study by one of the most preeminent authorities on domestic violence research in the world, Dr. Murray Straus. [3] His conclusion? Feminist ideologues have intentionally corrupted the study of domestic violence and the dissemination of information from research results. Oh, a slight hint here, Dr. Straus is an esteemed academician, not a blogger, or a paranoid white guy who is angry because they let women vote. Neither is anyone else I know, though I still have my suspicions about the guy who delivers Chinese. Something kinda funny about him, in a possibly misandric way.
So now, according to Tory’s veiled “threat,” it appears that over at The Punch the lot of them are going to come out with a series of articles condemning the men’s movement. I trust they will be delivered with the same top flight, cutting edge drivel just dished out by the desperate and disingenuous Shepherd. And I am sure they will be ready to block comments as they come in. Can’t have an open discussion about this, can we?
The long and the short of it is simple. The plans of corrupt ideologues in Australia have just been outed, big time. And now they’re pissed. They want to come on the attack.
Alrighty then..
The really wonderful thing about the internet, Tory, is that it does not give a fuck if you are a woman or a feminist. It affords all people the opportunity to make their case. Those that have relied on the silence and acquiescence of others to further their ideas are screwed in a world where everyone gets to speak, and will. So by all means, take your shots. Come at us with everything. In the end, you will be exposed for the liars you are and you will see your ideology continue to crumble while you see men and women increasingly defy your agenda.
We are here to fuck your shit up in just that precise way.
References:
[1] Kanin, 1994
[2] Orlando Sentinal, June, 2010
[3] Straus, 2007
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And I am sure they will be ready to block comments as they come in. Can’t have an open discussion about this, can we?
Well I guess my previous question was answered.
Cowards.
Vintage Elam! Great stuff Paul. Non- misandrist egg rolls? Got any more? LMAO
Man it is great to see the ditzy dopes clambering to protect stolen and lie infested turf.
Like fish in a barrel mr Elam. Well done!
Egg rolls. Egg = Ovary = Misandry.
Go for the ‘nad rolls next time, Paul.
whoa, whoa, whoa.
Gotta explain that one to the audience. We can’t be like feminists making huge logic jumps now.
Egg = Ovary = Female Gonads = Female = Mother = of Babies = Children = Requires Support = Indentured Servant Dad = Misandry
Also:
Roll = Swag = Bedding = Pillows = Breasts = Female … you can see where I’m going.
Its like eating eggrolls is not just misandry, its DOUBLE misandry.
I, for one, will not eat Afghan mutton balls as an alternative. Sorry.
I don’t have any words to say, just this:
http://i.imgur.com/WHf3U.gif
Edit: Actually, I challenge Tory to discuss or refute any of the facts or data I have in the last two posts on “The Plan”, or the one coming up.
Tory Shepherd reminds me of the indoctrinated, misandric, ideologues who I have argued with in the past at the college I currently attend. They sound like broken records because they repeat the same nonsense repeatedly. They would rather keep their heads in the sand than to admit they are suckers who have been duped by the victimology cult known as feminism. They will never hold women accountable for their actions, acknowledge men’s suffering, or try to fix the mess their hatred created. They will never look in the mirror and realize they are the sexist pigs they have spent their lives labeling men. You can’t have an honest or open dialogue with these people because they will never admit their faults. They will never have any empathy for men and boys.
Making false accusations is always their first and only retort.
Feminists like this Tory Shepard do women a great disservice, by representing women as false accusing, lying harpies.
It drives me nuts how many “people” like Tory can attain degrees while being so intellectually dishonest a piggish.
Those kind of people skate through college with 4.0′s on a freshly laid path from their personal ideological zambonis.
And they come out in force by way of getting jobs via their degree to propagate non-rational/ non-independent thinking.
Somehow, being a member of the (thought) police is considered being “strong” and “independent” N.O.W..
There are so many “Tory’s” in the world, I’ve become anorexic because everywhere I turn, I have a hard time keeping my food down.
MRA’s data passes through the scientific method FAR more often than any brainwashed feminist ideologue. Any honest person realizes this. It’s a damn shame academia perpetually encourages their STUPID (i really can’t think of another word for it) Orwellian behavior.
So this Australian professional feminist Tory Shepard is providing subterfuge because AVfM is breaking the story about how child abuse is being covered up by other Australian professional feminists.. ?
Yep. See, what they’re doing is they’re standing on their much bigger soapbox and they’re going to scream “MRA’s ARE DANGEROUS WHITE MEN!!!!!Don’t listen to these MRA’S!” before this info breaks to some people who would be in a position to do something morally decent with it.
They’re going to hope people fall for it.
They’re counting on their credentials and wealth and government connections to make them more “believable”.
I hope reason prevails instead.
It quite foolhardy of this professional feminist Tory Shepard to publicly involve herself in lying about us in order to help cover up a cover up of child abuse by professional Australian feminists connected to the Australian government. She is a public figure risking her credibility, while the people behind the fraud that she is openly protecting, sneak around retaining their anonymity.
I wager they see her as a useful idiot.
Agreed. Tori should helping to spread information about the disgusting coverup.
I hope that by screaming about MRAs on their bigger soapbox, they will get more people to come to sites like AVFM and discover what we MRAs are really saying.
She forgot the part about we are balding… LOL
Who loves you baby ! lol
“Shepherd goes on to highlight all the things that make us paranoid and stinky and extreme, as well as white and male.”
I lol’d. Oh how I lol’d.
I read the original article. She simultaneously acknowledges the problems facing men whilst lambasting the ones actually doing something about them.
But her only real criticism is: They’re angry.
If a group of people has problems that they don’t see being addressed, the natural response is to, well, _be angry_.
But she can’t connect the dots between the existence of problems men face(which she acknowledges) and the anger men are expressing?
As you know typhon, she treats her readers as sheep, telling them we’re angry men brings up images they have been fed through school of “angry patriarchs”, like anti-drug ads scare you in high school.
As I’ve said here before, the great Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. stated in his famous speech in Selma Alabama that it was anger in the black community, rightous anger, that was the engine that would cause change for the black community in the United States.
“But she can’t connect the dots between the existence of problems men face(which she acknowledges) and the anger men are expressing?”
Forgive her, Typhon, and don’t be such a women hater. Besides being a liar and an extremely lazy journalist, she also suffers from dot-connecting issues. Not all feminists are like that..-Most of them are also man hating bigots.
And they think males are disconnected from their emotions….
The insufferable shit bag who wrote that misandric rag never actaully figured out that all MRAs are not white nor male. She also never figured out that men of virtually any race can still be on the receiving in of misandry. This shows you once and for all that feminists lie as easy as they pass gas.
The dream of Martin Luther King Jr has finally come true.
Are you black, asian, hispanic,native american? Doesn’t matter!
We can all be “angry white men” if we have a bone to pick with gendered arrest policies or feminist gender quota entitlement smörgåsbords or lack of male reproductive rights or forced military service.
Yes it is almost pythonesque just substitute the word “men” for “Romans” . Tory seems clearly to be a mouthpiece for the established orthodoxy and we have seen corrupt orthodoxies invloved in vicious hatchet jobs before. I am minded of one launched in the UK when Fathers For Justice (F4J) were at the height of their popularity. The hatchet job(s) (there were actually two of them and both seemed highly coordinated) involved government ministers a maintream female national network tv presenter, the metropolitan police and a high profile radical feminist charity. This was the vicious backlash from the same two faced government that had promised to look at positive reforms in public due to F4J activism and capturing of the zeitgeist whilst internally it was seeking only to to discredit, smear and tarnish the messenger. I ****ing HATE bullies!
Thanks Paul
I commented on one of Shepherds punch articles – and reproduce it below
Greg Canning says: 11:21am | 23/12/11
I can only assume that Tory Shepherd want’s to undermine the legitimate claims of men to equality and some degree of choice or self determination in their lives by painting us all as extremists.
Perhaps the greatest conspiracy theory of all time is “patriarchy theory” the repeated claim that all men oppress all women, a central tenant of all feminist literature, yet I know of not one man anywhere who has joined “the patriachy” with a view to involving himself in “oppressing women”. Quite the opposite all the men I know are (or started out) holding women in awe, feeling a duty of protecting and providing for women and our families.
Increasingly men who have been “bitten” directly or indirectly by the results of feminist governance and power are waking up to how they are devalued and considered disposable in western feminist cultures. This is not a conspiracy theory, there is ample evidence and anecdote to support it. Granting women greater rights, but not expecting any increased responsibility or accountability has lead to a reversal of the gender imbalance that the original feminists sort to address in an egalitarian manner. The fact that most men who dare to question feminism or insist that they should have equal rights to current women are branded as extremist is just a tactic to stifle the men’s voices, the irony being that men are starting to talk and express their feelings and women who previously claimed this to be a desirable trait now want us to shut up.
I will look forward to the debate here if that is indeed what will happen, but your opening Tory implied you have already made up you mind on the issue.
Got a reply from a one of the idiot feminists, who hides behind the handle of “Wearstardust” you can see this and my follow up at http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/icb-the-great-feminist-conspiracy-and-mre/ there are 250+ comments just go to the bottom.
Excellent summation.
“…the irony being that men are starting to talk and express their feelings and women who previously claimed this to be a desirable trait now want us to shut up.”
Clever bit of logic there. Saving that for my FTSU scrap book.
Hi Paul. I had wondered how long it would be, before the Australian Vicious Lunatics, ooops, sorry, the Feminists got wind of what was / is happening.
Some background information: Adelaide has won the reputation – after a fierce battle with Canberra – as the Feminist Capital of Australia. Adelaide is known as the “mud brick belt” where the greatest concentration of Feminists, Marxists, former Nazis (and some still practicing) and other assorted gibbering idiots are found in Australia.
Examples of how Adelaide has become this way are many and varied (please do this well before you have a meal, so as not to throw up):
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/48081
http://www.womenaustralia.info/biogs/PR00102b.htm
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/women_and_politics/suffr7.htm
From the above:
“The Married Women’s Property Act in 1833 was the first in the world to allow women (who owned property) to vote in municipal elections after 1861 and the first public school for girls teaching an academic curriculum leading to matriculation for university was established in Adelaide.”
So, Feminism in Adelaide goes back to at least 1833, well before the first notings of it in France in 1880. In 1833, they were still importing convicts into parts of Australia.
Our Australian Post Office decided to put Feminist figures on our postage stamps (presumably so no-one would use them):
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/feminists-make-their-stamp/story-fn6bqvxz-1225992022979
Once again, Adelaide was chosen to be the “launching point” for the announcement about it all.
So, you can see just how far back this all goes, in Australia. The idea that Australian women were “systematically denied” anything was and remains rubbish.
The claims this female makes are nothing more than Business As Usual for the Australian Feminists with the usual distortions, outright lies and opinion-disguised-as-fact.
One last thing: our Australian Broadcasting Corporation is one of the biggest supporter of Feminism, where it (Feminism) Global Warming and Marxism reigns Unquestioned.
beautiful!
I’ve studied and traveled and studied and traveled too, Tory. Yawn. It doesn’t give me the right to pass a lazy understanding of something off as insider knowledge. You may be passionate about words, but I’m guessing that only includes your own. Your myopic media mentality and flash judgments cast as you yet another vacuous, assembly-line yapping head. You’re a dime a dozen and you all have the same inability to look beyond your own emotional barriers.
It appears Tory has read some Warhammer 40K books regarding travel:
“It is my belief that foreign travel narrows the mind wonderfully.”
Seriously, she picked up the wrong lessons when she traveled. The big lesson is that there is more than one point of view, and you could be wrong in the grand scheme of things.
Paul,
Great piece, as always. Just a suggestion for best practice: for your first source – Kanin, 1994 – you should probably include a link OR the full citation including title, etc.
I wouldn’t normally nitpick over something like this, but you know THEY will. Citing Kanin leaves them up a certain creek without a certain paddle, as they are forced to refute a respected academic whose research confirms our own arguments. But we don’t want to give them any ammunition along the lines of “they used false/incomplete sources to back up their hate!!!!”
As I say, it’s incredibly trivial and I wouldn’t bother pointing out but I see a potential strawman they could use here.
I could not find the actual study online. I have read summaries of it, but those are linked to other MRA sites. I figure they want to pay for it, which they won’t, they can refute it that way.
But if anyone has a link to the study itself I will happily put it in. Thanks, Tom.
http://www.archive.org/details/FalseRapeAllegations
or
http://falserapearchives.blogspot.com/2009/06/archives-of-sexual-behavior-feb-1994.html
I’ll try and source it through the university library, if its not in digital format, it can take some weeks to find a hard copy photostat and mail it. cheers Greg
I sent you a hard copy via email.
Nothing beats that. Thanks to all.
lol
Is that no good? Here’s the direct link.
http://ia600406.us.archive.org/1/items/FalseRapeAllegations/false-rape-allegations-archive.pdf
There seriously needs to be an archive here of the .pdfs of these studies and articles here, with original links as they can. I can see them being deleted by someone wanting to suppress the truth.
Kind of like a Internet Library of Alexandria for the truth.
Is there space at the inn for these articles?
I just looked up a copy at the University of Louisville Database. http://proquest.umi.com.echo.louisville.edu/pqdlink?Ver=1&Exp=01-07-2017&FMT=7&DID=5298453&RQT=309
You may be able to access this copy right now or if you want I can email you a pdf copy of the report.
Of note is that this study is peer reviewed which is more than we can say for most feminist research.
The fems hate Kanin. He was loved by them until his data on false accusations of rape. Then they hated him just like they hate all truth tellers. It’s bad for funding ya know.
I think you can use this link to access the swayback machine and have a copy of the original research sent to you downloads. http://ow.ly/8nvxX
Well Paul your penchant for speaking the truth is still in working order. Ms Shepherd was sent in a reply to her latest article by me as well.
It has yet to be posted.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/msshepherd.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/msshepherd2.jpg/
I realize I did misspell her name my bad, I commented before wiping away the effects of reading utter horse – shit.
It truly would be interesting to see how she would reply to Kyle’s offer, somehow I doubt she will.
I’d like to thank Tory Shepherd for directing traffic to AVfM, and for pointing out several areas of concern to the men’s rights movement. I’d also like to thank her for following up that admission with dishonest characterization of MRA’s as “extremists”, providing an illustration of her own ethical bankruptcy.
Thank you Paul for batting this cricket ball chock-a-block full o’ bugs back at the whopper telling bowler (as it is commonly said)
You’ve effectively cut the tall grass so the pygmies of truth can see we’re watching them, and a second ball from them will need no silly mid on from behind.
Misandry, while not absolutely everywhere can catch us in the most unguarded moments however, and for me it lifted it’s fly blown skull in the form of the following email from my nemisis, a blogger for wimmins wannabe.
“To The Dr. F.
I just went to a site on the www internet place here http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html and saw drawings what you done of my I mean me.
I’m not a misteranderick man at all. No way, but you paint me here at http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html as an idiot.
Also, at http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html you picture me eating chicken legs. Thay’re not chicken thay’re turkey because the chicken bones are too small and end up punckturing my nappy.
Also, you’re vane and selfish centred always promoting yourself on http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html
Big deal, so what if you got cartoons on http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html
Next time you do a drawing of me do it properly and just stop promoting yourself on http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html.
It’s http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html this and http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html that Dr. F and quite frank I’m sickly of it.
The Ended.”
“Dr. Murray Straus. [3] His conclusion? Feminist ideologues have intentionally corrupted the study of domestic violence…”
I heard Erin Pizzey, founder of the first women’s shelter in the world (in England), say largely the same thing a few years back at a conference here in CA, only she added that feminists “hijacked” the domestic violence movement. Pizzey also pointed out the Marxist roots of those feminists, and their goal to destroy traditional families by first driving the dad out with lies about domestic violence.
The cognitive dissonance is palpable:
“These men are aggrieved because they see misandry – the hatred of males – everywhere in society, from government down.”
Which any rational human being might conclude leads to…
“Men’s outcomes in some areas really are poor. Male suicide rates are three to four times higher, their life expectancy is lower. Girls often outperform boys at school. Males are more likely to be incarcerated, more likely to be addicted.”
Male hatred in society, “from government down”, has nothing to do with his present condition. Let’s pretend to ignore that part. Heaven forbid men should self-actualize and realize this whole feminist thing is one big scam, at his expense.
“Heaven forbid men should self-actualize and realize this whole feminist thing is one big scam, at his expense.”
Too late…
http://tinyurl.com/6ze7n6
,,,cat’s outta the bag,
http://tinyurl.com/7wt62db
I was recently banned from The Punch by Tory Shperherd when she was temporarily made acting editor over the Christmas holiday. My crime? I kept calling her on the bullshit she would post as fact in her poorly researched and largely inaccurate articles.
This is the sort of moderation Tory uses to control the comments regarding her articles and her ability as a “journalist”. As a result I have not bothered to read or visit The Punch since that time, until i saw this article headline at news.com.au, and thought it would be interesting to see what BS she was serving up today.
Personally, I have no particular interest in AVFM, and would never even have heard about you if not for her typically biased and opinionated form of “journalism”, so in a lot of ways she has done you all a service.
However, I concur that Tory Shepherd is probably one of Australia’s least credible “professional” (I assume she gets paid for her diatribe) journalists and almost everything she writes (or at least that I have read of hers on The Punch) seems to be only her opinion from one who is ill-informed and unwilling to actually research her topic , while doing her best to pass it off as fact. This is her style. But if you call her on it, expect to be banned.
“Personally, I have no particular interest in AVFM, and would never even have heard about you if not for her typically biased and opinionated form of “journalism”, so in a lot of ways she has done you all a service.”
And I hope we are returning the favor. I never heard of adelaidenow.com till today.
Personally, I have no particular interest in AVFM, and would never even have heard about you if not for her typically biased and opinionated form of “journalism”, so in a lot of ways she has done you all a service.
Thank you for doing us the honor of gracing us with your presence.
Welcome. I hope you dig it as much as we all do.
“…seems to be only her opinion from one who is ill-informed and unwilling to actually research her topic , while doing her best to pass it off as fact. This is her style.”
No my friend…this is the style of all the histrionic spouting feminists out there trying their DAMN best to rewind/edit our culturally collective “minds” so they can stuff in their claptrap and make it a knee-jerk’d accepted “Time that Never-Was.”
We’re living in the time warp created by their social re-engineering of the truth based on our natural instinct to protect and nurture at our own expense. But the facts are sliding out around the creases and we’re exposing them to Fuck Their Shit Up, and unfortunately for the poor wimmin out there, it hurts. If you read more on this site you’ll see more examples of this DARVO diatribe they spew.
Welcome to the Cause, my friend.
I’ve just been banned as well for pulling her up on her lack of quality and apparent lack of proper research. I guess it was the last straw when I refuse to accept her as a journalist. Oh wells, I got introduced to this site though.
I echo Chris_Ds comments above in all respects. Chris, was wondering where you went
Aka John Smythe
If eating Chinese makes one write as well as Paul Elam I would like to have my favorite Roast Egg Fujian. But the place that has best taste does not deliver in this are. One place does deliver but it would not make me write like Confucius but confused.
This is a good opportunity for exposure. She did a hit piece without referencing anything specific. She mentioned AVfM in the article but failed to even contact Paul as a source. That is crap journalism, many of the readers will be searching for AVfM just to find out what she’s talking about.
And when they find this site, and find out about the feminazis plans to turn Australian men into concentration camp Jews we will gain more friends and supporters.
I spit my drink laughing when I came to this sentence. That was just mega-awesome
Exemplary female supremacy, Tori Shitbird.
Feminism, the radical notion that if you throw shit at a wall it’s likely to stick.
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Oh, really? First, do you expect to be taken seriously here with your racist remarks? For the record, we do not allow that here. So don’t do it again or I will shitcan your IP and not remember you were here in two minutes. This movement is already being taken seriously. That is why you are here spouting drivel, implying that if we call someone a liar who has lied, its abuse.
Fuck that and fuck you. Is that abuse, too?
Trust me, hang out and talk some more. You wil find out that it is you not taken seriously.
Dunno Paul. Might be fun to let this twerp hang around for a while and show what an ignorant ass he/she/it really is.
Umm, ya what is with the racism Baz? That’s the talk of the ignorant. In fact Tory had a hint of racism in her post as well.
“…bunch of ignorant angry white morons…”
Yep, that’s us–just woke up one morning and decided to be ignorant, angry and white; with no prompting from haters such as yourself whatsoever.
Bazrah, I will say the same to you that I said to Tory S.
How and when did you poll the demographics of the non-feminist population?
And wazzup with the racism anyway, huh?
Please explain yourself. I’m all ears.
“People yelling out abuse such as liar, feminazis, and talking about women locking men up in concentration camps is just making you look like a bunch of ignorant angry white morons. I guarantee you this movement will never be taken seriously until you can moderate that sort of talk.”
Paul’s already addressed your racism. I’ll answer for the “women locking up men in concentration camps”, since I am the first one I know of on this site to make the analogy.
How do you think the Final Solution of the Nazis for the Jews came about? It started in the first year Hitler was appointed Chancellor: the “old cabhorse” Hindenburg was still President, however, and Hitler had to start slow. He started with Storm Troops standing in front of Jewish shops, “demonstrating” against Jews and urging boycotts. (Well, heck, not so bad so far, right?)
Then came the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, prohibiting, along with much else, marriage between an Aryan and a Jew – but really, a move to eliminate *sex* between a blond Aryan maiden and the Lascivious Jew amongst much else. (Starting to sound familiar yet?)
By 1938, after Krystallnacht, a set of laws were rammed into place, that didn’t exactly say that if you were a Jew, you had to report to a death camp, but none the less making life, in praxis, unlivable for Jews in Germany. (How bout now?)
Winter 1941 saw the Wannsee Conference (think the recent use of Feminist groups, exclusively, as advisors in closed meeting with the FBI). There was solidified the Final Solution of the Jewish Question…Now Jews *really did* have to report to concentration camps. But these had been converted, in preparation for Jews and Gypsies, to death camps.
…Yes I’m sure there *were* Germans who were persecuted in the Sudentenland, just as I’m sure there *are* women who get physically and sexually abused by men. But wymminz solution is to *have men* – the FBI, state & local police, etc – march in with steel helmets (now riot gear, which is even better!) and put men who don’t behave according to laws which, in every country in the socalled first world, have reached Nuremberg level and are poised to jump to Kristalnacht-level in Australia, into concentration camps. Got it? Wymmon maneuver *men* to be their enforcers, their goons, their SS.
If you think I’m going to wait around, not shouting this analogy-soon-to-be-parallel of German Nazis vis a vis Feminazis from the highest hills, man, you’re the fool.
Are you blind and stupid? You do realize that quite a few of the members of this site aren’t even white.
Nice try, junior!
Another turd telling us to ‘play nice.’
Hey Asswipe. We tried that. Never fucking worked. It was just same-shit-different-day, no matter how nice anyone tried to be.
Alice Cooper – No More Mr Nice Guy – Enjoy!
One of the few good songs to come out of the 70s…
” Like a bunch of ignorant angry white morons.”
I would’ve never thought that having African and American Indian ancestry would actually make me an ignorant white moron.
You’re a fucking genius! LOL!!!!
LMFAO!
They are coming out in droves
Like marauding locusts over fields
Men of all colour and races in an outpouring of rage
With deadly lasers of truth to fuck the shit up
Of frauds who have hijacked sanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgAaCUa4nM
The white angry moron part is so in outer space that it can only be projection. LOL and LOL again. And no, that does not mean you saw in a movie.
Hey idiot, we have already tried “moderating that sort of talk”. Tried it for years, we did! And what did it get us?
Bupkis!
I guarantee you we were NEVER taken seriously when we were “moderating that sort of talk.”
That’s right Einstein, it does not work.
Assholes and bullies don’t respond to “nice”.
Fear is the only language they understand.
What’s up with all these MRA’s being deliberately and provocatively white huh?. Check my page at http://www.youtube.com/user/MRAGreatestHits
You will find a most diverse cross section. Imagine that, people like you have managed to offend all kinds of people. Besides, so what if many MRA’s are white? what is that telling you? I’ll give you bright spark a clue, the answer is in your comment.
The MRM is a direct result of the racist, bigotry that can be seen in your comment. Congratulations.
“People yelling out abuse such as liar, feminazis, and talking about women locking men up in concentration camps is just making you look like a bunch of ignorant angry white morons.”
I see, now were all white and male. I guess were also all rapist, pedophiles and murderers. Should I go to the closet and brake out my white cape and wooden cross. That you would even label us all as “Angry White Morons” is bigoted. Less fucking backlash if you can sell that story to the public.
as opposed to an angry … purple?… moron.. like yourself?
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“…bunch of ignorant angry white morons…”
But then to say you’re an “ignorant angry female moron”…would not be a sexist statement. I only say this because it appears, based on your comments, that’s what I observe to be true.
Nice try cupcake!
What a misogynist you are ! The cupcake has run out of tears !
Ok, intellectual dishonesty is a cry out for the ban hammer. So you will be gone in a minute, as soon as I bother entering your IP.
I will give you this parting thought. My behavior, and what is typical of this site, is not what needs to be controlled. It is the men, women and government that need to moderate their behavior.
We are not seeking their approval. We leave that to other activists that are doing a good job with that sort of thing. Our purpose here is to use modern techonology to fuck with hate mongers and criminals, and we do a good job of it….getting better all the time, too.
You are too slow to know what is happening here. and why. Suffice it to say, it is not goin to stop, and a lack of acceptance from the brainwashed public could not matter less.
To for you to go. Bye.
Oh Paul…didja hafta? (The banhammer, I mean.)
I was looking forward to a bit of engagement with this individual.
Sigh…!
Sorry, like watching a swan dance with a pig. I don’t think you could enlighten him. Besides, all these people do is come in here and try to derail things, getting people like you to invest your energy into bantering with them instead of much more productive things.
Sometimes I know it is not popular, but this is not a forum where insufferable morons will be allowed to come in and prove they are insufferable morons.
As always, feminists and white knights are welcome to debate, as long as they practice intellectual honesty and don’t try to shame or insult.
We have a world full of lies and shame and insults out there. I want to keep this place free of it.
A “pig”, you say?
I was thinking more along the lines of a guinea pig.
But oh well, I’m sure I will find other opportunities to . . . . “experiment.”
Good call.
With great banhammer comes great reponsibility.
Too little and younget mindless flame wars, too much and you get the echo chamber.
To Fidelbogan.
Experiment eh ?
Whoooo… you like some kind of a Mengele or something ?
I bloody well knew it, bloody MRA’s marching right behind the ideals of the Third Reich.
Right wing bastardos the lot of you !
(Time for an expose and fuck that truth thingy as it just shits me sideways)
“derail” is exactly what he/she had in mind.
While FB and others may wish to sport with such bigots, the person in question succeeds in the mission to undermine the success story here.
Allowing a bigot to stay here is no different to allowing them to remain employed as government advisors…. they putrify every environment they are allowed to stay in.
Is there some statement already on the site which specifies ‘intellectual honesty’? Is there ONE objective standard for everyone to abide by or are you looking for one standard for feminists, white knights and other insufferable morons AND another for us ‘good guys’ so to speak? Given how easy intellectual honesty is to lose, it seems that ONE (consistently applied) standard would benefit us all.
They ban us all the time, until they are ready to have an intellectually honest and open discussion there is really nothing to talk about with them. Labeling us all as angry white men is simply an attempt to segregate us in order to unleash there masters upon us. If your reading this Bazrah, IM NOT WHITE. Dr. T is not male. Our race and sex is not a factor here at AVfM, that it is with you is so very telling of your bigotry.
Perhaps you might read some of the articles here before you pronounce us all as morons. You get back what you dish out.
From my perspective you simply seem to be a chivalrist who is willing to sacrifice his own masculine identity in order to placate and pacify women who are more than willing to see you as inferior. Best not disagree. LOL You can gain points by attacking these white morons. What a brave white knight you are!
All you need is one false accusation or a tough divorce and you would start to see what is being discussed here. Without that stimulus you will continue to prattle on like the brainwashed automaton that you are.
“The movement one day might get some more publicity and start to grow, maybe even influence government. Paul Elam though will not be taken seriously. “
What “movement”, precisely, are you referring to? I am honestly puzzled by this. I am seeing a flurry of motions everywhere, in modules large and small, but no “movement” per se.
But maybe you know something that I don’t.
So again, will you kindly explain which “movement” you are talking about? Since when was the world exclusive of feminism a so-called “movement”?
Do enlighten me.
“What “movement”, precisely, are you referring to?”
# 1 Given how men’s rights activism has become a global endeavor, I do see a men’s rights movement comprised of thousands, or more, maybe many more, ONE MAN MRM’S.
The most fascinating thing about this movement is not it’s overall size, but the overall spontaneity with which so many individuals have come to the same conclusions about all the feminist abuses.
We are literally witnessing the awakening of a global MRM consciousness that has too long been denied its voice.
# 2 The fact that some here, or elsewhere, are accused of vituperativeness is more a measure of the extent to which feminist abuses have been heaped on males, than anything else.
Many years ago gave someone me a young German Shepard dog from a doggy rescue place. I had to give the dog back, because the animal snapped at me (several times) the first time I reached out to pet it.
Knowing what I know now, I wish I’d kept the dog and tried harder to get to know it. I realize now that the dog’s reaction was just a result of the abuses it had been subjected too – - – so why would anyone wonder about any male’s alleged vituperative speech after the level of feminist abuses to which they’ve been subjected?
I guess feminists’ and society’s reaction to males (abused and otherwise) just shows how many people are willing to inhumanly treat males lower than dogs.
Many people (feminist hypocrites among them) consider abused dogs worth saving, but all males are just disposable. The statistics and facts overwhelmingly show that. :-/
“Those comments draw the most attention. I’m white though so I guess I’m racist towards myself. “
For your information sir, we do not drag the topic of race into our non-feminist discourse. That is a red herring tactic, employed by hostile outsiders, for derailing and obfuscational purposes.
You are in a non-feminist space, so you need to respect certain parameters.
There, you have been schooled.
I have no doubt at all that a glass of champagne would be more stable than yourself when rested on that flat skull you have.
In all seriousness though, and in MRA spirit I will not condemn you for being shy of a few cells up top.
I say this because we oppose feminists bearing down selectively on those solely for their genome, you know… ummm, like being white.
“I’m white though so I guess I’m racist towards myself.”
Racist against your own race. That’s actually possible, in the same way that white knights are sexist against their own gender. In the same way that blacks can be racist against blacks. You seem to want to capitalize off of the image liberals have of the “priveleged white man”, who can’t help but bitch about everything when he has it better than everyone else. It’s just a way to try to descredit what is actually being said here. “They have it better than everyone else, so what do they have to complain about?”
“because the majority of pictures of actual people on here are of white males”
Hahahaha. So you see a picture of Travis Bickle and you think that’s the MRA demographic? Get a clue moron.
About 95% of the pictures on here aren’t of the actual posters. The only one I know for sure is a self-picture is Paul Elam.
I am an actual squirrel, and all this talk of white men gets my fur in a twist.
I’m a 900-pound swamp-dwelling herbivore with antlers.
Ya think we could get a TV show together?
By the way…can you fly?
I just came back to pick up comments that I missed.
That is funny. LOL
Moose and Squirrel
http://i.imgur.com/IlSp3.jpg
What should we call it?
Also, I heard Natasha is a radical feminist looking to destroy the rights of moose and squirrels around the globe! She must be stopped.
“Bahahaha I guarantee you in a political and intellectual debate setting if this is how you behave noone will take you serious.”
You obviously have not watched much of the coverage from the australian parliament lately – what passes for debate there, is far worse then any complaint you may have about the discussions here, its just they have a speaker to tone down the swearing.
Translation: Please tone down on what works, be less effective.
We’ve actually been around for years… Some of us even bought into the “moderate and talk more diplomatic” bullshit. I cringe to say I was one of those people who bought into the lie that we need to tone down “in order to be taken seriously”.
Heck, (some people might even remember), but I was going around this site a year ago saying “hey guys, maybe we need to be more diplomatic and allow for softer dialogue”.
Fuck that… I saw first hand what happens to soft-spoken “dialogue-minded” guys – they get nowhere. Only when you speak with PASSION and JUSTICE-SEEKING-OUTRAGE are you paid attention to, and do you command respect.
If you wanna see some soft-spoken and passionless emotionless zombie-sounding men, go to feministcritics.org, they’ve been trying the poetry-spoken approach for many years, and they’ve gotten nowhere. Elam does more progress and commands more attention in 2 days than those poetry-reading guys get in 2 years.
Forweg did a good post on this too:
http://traitorsofmen.blogspot.com/2011/12/fence-sitters-and-concern-trolls.html
Here’s a good quote on this…
Heck, a lot of people allowed mass murdering Fascists & Communists to get in power, because strong critics were being condemned for being “too loud and paranoid” and told to tone down the warning rhetoric.
If I see you walking toward an open manhole, no loudness of me yelling out “watch out! you’ll fall” is ever “too loud” or “impolite”, i’m fucking warning you of imminent danger.
Beautiful, Alek.
I did the soft spoken thing for years, too. Now? I can only say if you want sugar coated, go get a doughnut.
Paul Elam is already taken seriously. The premium mens rights activist in the world….and this site….number one….your looking at it bud.
The point is that white (male) is not just fair game but open season. This is why, despite the MRA having a huge black community, (also have you been to Japan lately? for example) we don’t hear you or anyone else saying ‘bunch of ignorant angry female black & jewish morons”. Not likely. Again, this should provide some insight into the very existence and the exponential growth of the MRM.
Besides you wouldn’t have a clue what ethnicity most of us are. How many actual ‘profile pictures’ are even here? What colour am I bright spark? Why such high level of anonymity for simply exercising a little freedom of speech?
Tory Shepherd is the worst sort of man-hating bigot and compulsive liar you can imagine. She writes regularly for “the Punch” in Australia and often acts as editor. “The Punch” purports to be a place where the great unwashed can comment on current affairs – which is perfectly true so long as you agree with every biased, bigoted and twisted theory held sacred by Tory Shepherd.
I used to contribute the occasional comment but ran afoul of Tory Shepherd about 6 months ago. Since then I have been completely banned from ever making another comment – all on Tory’s sole decision, of course.
My crime was to dispute the well-accepted wisdom that all white men are collectively responsible for everything that has ever gone wrong with the world since Adam ate the apple.
Like all the other man-haters (especially white-man haters) Tory Shepherd never misses an opportunity to distort, to supress, and to twist anything that doesn’t conform to her narrow and diseased view of the world.
Unfortunately, the MSM in Australia is dominated by leftist ideologues who never cease to push the femonazi view that all men are baby-raping, woman-bashing monsters who are solely responsible for all domestic violence and every case of child abuse – and nothing disputing this deeply entrenched “truth” is ever published.
The courts in Australia are an absolute cauldron of man-hating zealots, as is the Family Court – as I found out to my great disadvantage ten years ago. Before that, I’d thought that there was such a thing as “justice” and equal treatment before the courts – and how wrong was I! All it took was an accusation by my ex-wife and I was, by definition, guilty as accused. After all, she was a woman and I was a reasonably successful white man – therefore I was as guilty as sin.
I’ve occasionally told people the whole story, but few believe me – unless they’ve been through the same mincing machine. It was like living through a Franz Kafka novel where reality, truth, sworn affidavits just didn’t matter. My three daughters all swore that their mother was a liar and her accusations against me were a work of fiction and, guess what? The court-appointed femonazis threatened to charge my daughters with perjury unless they “told the truth” – that is, confirm the ex’s lies! Lucky for me my daughters weren’t intimidated by these vicious bullies and stood by me – but I was still convicted of “assault” as my daughters were never allowed to give testimony on my behalf.
That’s how it works, you see. And Tory Shepherd is an example of this all-pervasive and relentless campaign to paint all white men as perverted criminals.
Incidentally, after my marriage ended I was a single farther of our four children and they’ve all done well – with zero help or interest from their mother. Needless to say I have never entertained the idea of ever being in another relationship – and never would!
Hi Jack and welcome, there are far too many stories like yours out there. I guess you were lucky to retain custody of your kids, many of us were alienated from our children as well, the false DV allegations just being a key tactic.
“I’ve occasionally told people the whole story, but few believe me – unless they’ve been through the same mincing machine. It was like living through a Franz Kafka novel where reality, truth, sworn affidavits just didn’t matter.”
That’s just the way the Stalinist Soviet Collective works – - – er – - – make that Aussie Feminist Collective works.
Once you’ve taken over the social institutions as feminists have done (educational system, journalism, legal system, entertainment, etc.) you’ve taken over society and are free to do as you like. You have become the purveyor of truth, no matter the inaccuracy of your claims.
Remember, under Stalinism, er, feminism, er, what’s the difference, your guilt or innocence is irrelevant. Once you’re accused, you must be subjected to the Supreme Soviet, er, I mean the Supreme Feminist punishment and indoctrination (re-education) – to get you inline with the Feminist Collective’s truth.
Individual rights and liberties mean nothing in the greater scheme of the great Soviet Collective’s, er, I mean great Feminist Collective’s social engineering goals and mandates. Your mind must be made to comply with the Feminist’s political, world view. The Feminist Collective has fabricated their enemy and he is you.
http://tinyurl.com/2esejms
Sorry to hear of your personal calvary, Jack. We’re with you.
The Aussie subversives are applying a delayed dose of misandry to their society, perhaps because Australia took a bit longer to catch the disease. This would be ultra-virulent (think swine flu in its 2nd mutation; think Pol Pot imagining himself a Social-Progressive).
You’ve got to fight it.
Our purpose here is to use modern techonology to fuck with hate mongers and criminals
Yup, and this bozo comes in and thinks he knows what we are all about. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Oh I almost forgot. Fuck You!!!!!
Scatters you’re a funny bugger
You and I do try to keep the masses entertained.
It is difficult however to keep up with the laughable inanities of the fems. They are a hoot.
Exactly.
…and for that matter I mean where the hell do they come up with this shit ? I mean where ?
If only they could direct this imagination towards the forces of good and not evil you know ?
If only… sigh.
Shepherd cites examples of conditions that result directly from cultural misandry or an indifferent disregard for the relevance of males and their lives (which ends up resulting in cultural misandry) and then goes on to say:
“But these genuine issues are not the ones that concern the new breed of men’s activists. These men are aggrieved because they see misandry – the hatred of males – everywhere in society, from government down.”
She does not want to admit that the “genuine issues” ARE part of the cultural misandry problem.
She is yet another example (yawn) of why it is a waste of time engaging in an honest and rational discussion with these people. But there is much to be gained by exposing yet another feminist liar and hypocrite. It is a target rich environment out there isn’t it?
Shepherd would make better use of her time working with us to correct the many “genuine issues” working against males instead of spreading more animosity and hatred against men who’s only crime is telling the truth.
But we all know that’s not gonna happen.
Feminism is forever slippery. It forever lies. And it never, never, wants to face the truth about itself.
Feminism lacks a shred of empathy for males yet is filled with malignant narcissm as regards females. Such an evil beast cannot be reasoned with. And feminism would never, never, have gotten this far without men. Men created the civilization that gave females a better life and it was the male politicians who worked for the political advantage of females and the political subjugation of their brothers and sons.
One would think there would be enough females by this time who would want to side with the males. We men have earned that.
So now, according to Tory’s veiled “threat,” it appears that over at The Punch the lot of them are going to come out with a series of articles condemning the men’s movement.
That’s the best news I’ve heard all week, but it is only Monday.
How exactly can a bunch of harpies at The Punch do any damage to the MRM?
As men we are already held in low esteem so going on the attack against us is like claiming a pedophile is also an embezzler. There really isn’t much they can do to hurt us.
But what they will also be doing is helping us get the word out. For some people their negative stereotypes will be reinforced (as if a dozen stories a day doesn’t already do that), but for others who have actually been through the meat grinder of divorce or had false accusations or ever doubted the words of their mother who said their father abandoned them or who knows someone who has been through these things–they will then have a address to turn to to learn more about the MRM. Even those who want to verify what The Punch is saying because they are curious may turn up on one of our sites and find out for themselves what we are really about.
I think all this is great news. Bring it on Tory Shepard.
p.s. should we send her a thank you letter?
I love how she points out facts that have been stated by the MRM years ago even though she would have not acknowledged them without the MRM’s pestering. She tries the “women more sensitive and understanding” approach to make it seem like feminists really do care about male issues, and MRA’s are just a bunch of creepy, paranoid old white guys. Nice try love, but feigning care and understanding is not going to help your hate movement.
Glad to see some 2012 machine gunning of facts and dialogue from AVfM. I will keep reading, understanding, and spreading that hate speech known as Truth!
Shepherd’s shaming tactic is classic establishment strategy… label your opponent as deluded, conspiracy nut, etc, etc. Feminism is the new establishment. Expect more of it. This tactic was used by the Howard Government in shaming anyone who presented a threat (as in Silending Dissent, by leftists Clive Hamilton and Sarah Maddison). These bullying tactics may work in a penal colony, irrespective of whether those in power are right-wing or left-wing, but they won’t translate as smoothly to a global audience.
Shepherd’s ilk represents the new establishment. They are every bit as corrupt – nay, moreso – as their predecessors, whom The Sisterhood routinely denounced as pigs and liars. They can call us what they want. They are the new pigs and the new liars. And as the new activists providing verifiable data and facts, we have more integrity than the trash that they have ever represented.
I left a comment over there.
It was slightly ‘Izzey sarcastic’
I’m almost sure they won’t post it.
They have not posted my comment. (Chicken-shits)
They did not want to show a female MRA telling a feminist to go back to her denial castle and put her glass slippers back on…because they suited her.
I was quite cordial though. (For ‘me’ )
And I did thank her for sending so much traffic over to AVFM….because some men will now think they have hit the lottery in finding a website that speaks for them.
I wish I copied the comment…I hit “submit” and then said to myself…”Oh shit” (I should have known better)
Oh well.
I just wanted to ask everybody; what’s this ‘Patriarchy’ and how do I join?
I keep hearing about these special rights and privileges I’m supposed to be entitled to and, damn it – I want mine!
Anyone know where/how I can fill out a membership application?
Once you sign up for the patriarchy you get a Black Centurion Card and a personal concierge. What are you waiting for? Sign-up today!
You ain’t kiddin’.
My “Patriarchy ID Card” gives me so much power that I can throw fireballs with my bare hands, time travel, create/ destroy matter/ anti-matter, become a CEO at the snap of my fingers, have a harem, not be called a “slut” (VERY IMPORTANT) when I spend many hours in my harem room in my gold and diamond encrusted castle, snap my fingers and POOF! Yacht with helipad!
That doesn’t even scratch the surface.
You seriously need to get one! All you need to do is get a DNA test to prove you’re an XY chromosome entity.
Any Tory Shepard type will sign you off (notarized statement) that you have one once you do this…even if you’re a garbage man, you’re STILL a CEO! My card says so. I love mine!
Yeah, same here. I’d like to get a membership to this so called “Patriarchy Club” where men of all races are born to be naturally strong, tall, rich and intelligent. Please tell me how I can get a membership because It’s a fucking emergency! LOL!
Wow! Thanks guys. I’m getting into this ‘Patriarchy’ club first thing tomorrow!
The patriarchy isn’t all beer and skittles you know. I hope you are prepared to work for the privilege. I installed 16 glass ceilings last year and those things are heavy!
Maybe it’s just me being a thwarted white-man with a power dispossession complex, but I absolutely hate that smarmy bitch, Tory Shepherd, and everyone like her whether in Australia or anywhere in the world.
Since being tortured and condemned on the lying accusation of my ex wife, I have grown to detest nearly all women – especially any with any sort of power over me e.g. Tory Shepherd banning me from making any comments on The Punch. But it’s not just her.
After my marriage ended I started dating again. Being 50, white, balding and no movie-star at the time I didn’t think I’d have much chance – but I was wrong. There’s an ocean full of aging bints just praying for someone like me to come along. I’ve had more affairs between the ages of 50 and 60 than I had between 17 and 27 – and I had a reasonable score then.
But it never lasted more than a few weeks and I’ll tell you why. With one or two exceptions, they all told exactly, and I mean exactly, the same lies. Every one of them claimed to be victims of abuse; they’d all been married to violent alcoholics at least twice; most claimed to have been molested as a child; their divorces were never their fault, though they had always initiated it; they were all broke even though they’d raped their ex-husbands for every penny they could get; most admitted they’d had affairs in their marriage; nearly all had very poor relationships with their own children; most claimed to have been the victim of a rape or attempted rape. Pretty much exactly the same lies my ex told about me.
But to be a good liar you need a good memory. Being a reasonably intelligent fellow with an excellent memory, I’d store away the details of this crap and then ask them a question about it a week or so later. Unsurprisingly, they’d have forgotten the details of the lie! None of it was true. They just prattled of the exculpatory script to paint themselves as the victim. But the real irony was that they’d meet me on a dating site, have no idea who I was, but be quite prepared to root a total stranger on the first date!
I have an old mate the same age as me who has had three failed marriages. In every case, it was the woman who left him, and in every case he brought up another bloke’s kids. Anyway, we now have a competition to see how many of these old boilers we can lay. We have a check-list of all the usual bullshit and all the usual manoeuvres.
It always follows the same pattern and doesn’t take long: gain your sympathy, give you a taste of pussy, leave something in your house so they’ll have an excuse to come back, start telling you how much they love/admire you, come to stay for a few days, do it again, then tell you they are moving in for good. That’s when we tell them not to come back, don’t phone me, don’t email me, don’t contact me.
You see, both my old mate and I are both land-owners with desirable homes, nice furniture and good cars. What these women are looking for is a quick share of what we’ve got materially.
Under Australian law they only have to be living with you for a year before they have “entitlements”. That means that after one year they can ring the cops, say “I’m frightened and he threatened to hit me” and you’re out in gaol for the night and unlikely to ever see the inside of your own home again.
Having gone through that once already, I’ll never do it again. It was ten years ago this March that I was dragged out of my house in another city, in handcuffs, and never saw the inside of it again. But I did recover, started a new business which she could not claim, sold it after six years for a very handsome profit, and retired. The ex is still working and, I hear, blew all the money she swindled out of me, and is now deep in debt. What schadenfreude! What poetic justice! And I make sure she knows just how well I am doing without her.
Despite our little competition, my old mate and I still have that little shiver of fear that some old gold-digger we pick up will call “rape”. That’s why we deliberately keep every email and turn on the surveillance cams whenever we have company. Those cams are cheap, easy to install, and wonderful insurance against accusations. I only wish I’d had them ten years ago.
“It always follows the same pattern and doesn’t take long: gain your sympathy, give you a taste of pussy, leave something in your house so they’ll have an excuse to come back, start telling you how much they love/admire you, come to stay for a few days, do it again, then tell you they are moving in for good.
Gospel. If this is happening to you now, you are dancing with the devil.
Get rid of her as quickly as you can, before she turns the dogs of state upon you.
Don’t worry, I pissed off the last one in August. She didn’t take it well and started to stalk me a bit – actually she sort-of broke into my house p- it’s a weird story. As soon as that happened I called the cops; told a very nice lady cop what had happened, explained that I didn’t want to end up like Johnny Price (Kath Knight’s boyfriend), and got the cops to go around and serve her with a restraining order. I haven’t heard any more from her other than one of those stupid joke emails.
Strangely, the cops were quite sympathetic to me. An old Sergeant told me he was sick to death of serving Domestic Violence Orders on blokes who had done nothing and were the victims of spiteful, greedy bitches who would tell any lie to see a fella ruined.
It’s a real witch-hunt, an inquisition, here in Australia. What’s it like in the US or UK? Are middle-aged white men the personification of all evil there as well?
What really gets to me is the fact that there’s this industry of mail-order brides from the Philippines mostly. Silly old goats like me get cunt struck by a 25 year old sheila in Manila, marry her, and the bring her here. As soon as she arrives, a bunch of old lesbians from the Immigration Service take her aside and inform her of her “rights” – who to call if he hits her or threatens her or makes her feel “uneasy”; and exactly how long she has to stay (one year) before she can have Fred or Harry booted out of his home. And that’s exactly what happens! Now here’s the real icing on the cake, if she has children, whether they are his or not, he has to pay for them through compulsory child support until they are 18, finished school, or finished University with an upper limit of 25 years old!
How’s that for a fair go, hey!
But it gets even better! If he dies, he has to make “adequate provision” for “his” children in his will (whether they are biologically his or not) – so they even pick your pockets after you’ve blown your own brains out!
It’s a wonderful world, that’s for sure.
“It’s a real witch-hunt, an inquisition, here in Australia. What’s it like in the US or UK? Are middle-aged white men the personification of all evil there as well?”
Hi Jack, yes sir. In the US we have the luxury of being surrounded by a diversely unbiased male-hating system. Our only recourse is the RED PILL!! Dr. Paul can prescribe. Thanks for sharing.
“gain your sympathy, give you a taste of pussy, leave something in your house so they’ll have an excuse to come back…”
This one gave me a chuckle. Just threw the last traces of similar manipulation out the door and into the bin.
“Feminist will answer: “It’s not our job to look after men too.””
That is where I would pop back with “it is not men’s job to look after women.”
Which is a perfectly true statement.
Not seen it written explicitly, so here is my $.03:
Here we have another example of how feminism is really and truly over a bitch of a barrel:
Ignore us. Pretend we don’t exist. Result: We grow, unimpeded.
Call us out. Try to engage us in a pissing match. Result: People wonder…what’s all the fuss about? What is this MRA business? Who are these people?
They search the internet out of curiosity, they find us, and the decide…”oh fuck…they’re right” and then choke down their first ‘Red Pill.’ And we grow a little more.
Please oh please oh Please Tory Shepard. Take another shot at us.
I’m in the UK and so not sure how wide her readership is but I find it a cause for optimism that the MRM is getting mentioned in the MSM even if only to denigrate it.
More blue pill guys will be be intrigued enough to search the net for a little more detail and recognizing how events in their own lives chime with the pattern described on sites such as this, will start seeing red.
My son, aged 10, was complaining about the preferential treatment his female teachers show to the girls in his school. I told him to take note and get back with specific examples. Wait till that generation hits the net.
“The times, they are a changing”
“I’m in the UK and so not sure how wide her readership is..”
Go click on the globe on the right side, and you’ll see just how wide spread WE are. This is the best fucking thing that has happened to MANkind since the invention of the wheel. Where feminism goes,-we go. No stone is left unturned, and no truth is suppressed here.
Jack Richards, thanks for that excellent post mate.
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Wow! Do you know us? Have you interacted with us? We are nothing like thw way….meh, nevermind.
“I feel sorry for you.”
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you sooo much. I’ve been waiting for your pity my whole life, and tomorrow I’m going to get out of bed and start a completely new life, where the opinions of random asskissers of bigots will decide my every move from now on..
-Or maybe not.
@NicoleG:
Naww, changed my mind…
-So kindly go fuck yourself.
Please continue with your statements, they are source of much merriment here. Especially the bit about “She backs up her statements, if she is ever wrong she will correct it and she is crucified for having an opinion.”
Oh wow, that was gold.
shaming language – CHECK
defend poor research – CHECK
embellishing condescending emotion – CHECK
claims of not being “like that” – CHECK
Nicole G: “I’m no feminist,”
I knew there was a punch line in there somewhere. LOL
“I’m no feminist, but you horrid imbeciles might just sway me. You do your cause not (sic) good.”
Irony,thy name is Nicole.
Oh,I’m sure you were just overflowing with sympathy for men before us dastardly MRAs came along and forever colored your sympathies to the contrary.
I keep up on gender events pretty well, I like to think, perhaps you can show us where you’ve opened a battered men’s shelter or a foundation for boys’ education or something that would indicate you’re not completely full of shit,Nicole?
Don’t you fucking dare try to tell us what’s good for men if you’ve never even attempted to raise a finger on their behalf.
If you aren’t helping,then you can shut the fuck up and step aside.
That goes for anyone else who wants to come in here and make a comment along the lines of Nicole’s.
“A spade is a spade with Tory and how you can accuse her of ‘lying’ is just hilarious. ”
Well, how about her claims that we aren’t focused on things like male suicide,education, or custody issues?
That is a provable lie. We have blog posts going back a decade dealing with these issues.Not on this site, because it’s relatively new, but elsewhere in the manosphere.
In fact, in the beginning, issues like this were ALL we addressed.
Anyone who wants to verify that can easily do so and I encourage them to do it before accepting what I say as true.
Shepherd is a bald-faced liar.
Then, portraying all of us white or middle-aged? Could not be any farther from the truth. We proudly support people of color affected by misandric laws and social expectations,whatever color that is, because our goal is to help all men,and all men are affected by media presentations as rapists,wife-beaters,child abusers,etc. and the misandric laws that are being churned out year after year based on these negative cultural assumptions about men.
I’ve never heard a feminist say “All white men are pigs.” or “All hispanic men are rapists and that’s all they are.” all that matters to them is that you have a penis before they heap calumny and hatred upon you.
Shepherd is lying again here.
Then we have people coming in here and saying “Yeah,you’re all white because the only pictures I see are of white people.”. LOL! Big fucking deal. So I guess if we all had pictures of rappers or something we’d all be black then.I could put up a picture of Tory Shepherd,I suppose that would make me a woman?
Nothing but racial and sexual stereotypes from our opponents and WE’RE the ones who are angry and hateful?
What the fuck is wrong with society?
Yes, I’ve had an exchange of emails with Tory. I’ve read a lot of her stuff. Thing is, she doesn’t know me, and she doesn’t know the MRM except for some generalizations that she can’t even back up with facts or stats.
If you support Tory, you are supporting a racist bigot. Congratulations Nicole!
Wow! I’m suppose to change my mind about that racist, misandric filth because you’re using shamming language?
Buy a clue and fuck off as hard as you can!
NicoleG, surely you see the mischief in Shepherd’s acknowledgment of men’s issues on the one hand, and on the other hand her pathologising of the MRAs working to address those issues? You don’t think that misandry is one of the root causes of those issues? Male disposability? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA
And her naked dishonesty in stating that MRAs do nothing on those issues? I think Vladek Filler and his kids might disagree. http://www.fillerfund.com/latest.htm
As for anger, meh. If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
What’s the “red pill” “blue pill” thing? Can someone explain?
In my last post I mentioned Johnny Price. Foreigners wouldn’t know about him so I’ll explain. He was rooting a woman named Kath Knight who was a “boner” in a meat works. Anyway, Johnny tried to piss her off but she retaliated by claiming his house, even though she didn’t live there! Johnny told her to get fucked and she didn’t take it well. One night she went around, told him it was all a big mistake and she was soooo sorry; told him how much she loved him and asked him for a fuck. Foolishly, he let her in, did the job in the bedroom, and while he was having his post-coital smoke, she reached into her hand-bag, pulled out a razor-sharp boning knife and cut his throat. As he tried to get away, she stabbed him about 50 times. Then she got out the rest of her tools and expertly skinned him and hung his hide from a meat-hook she’d attached to the lounge room wall. Then she cut off his arse cheek and baked it in the oven. While she was doing this, she put his severed head in a big pot, with onions, potatoes, carrots, garlic and a dash of good wine and made a “head-au-vin”. When his arse was cooked, medium-rare, she sliced it and served it with baked vegetables onto plates for his children’s dinner! Each meal was under a plate cover and she’d made up name tags for each of his three kids which was put at their place at the table. What a gal!
But here’s the thing. She had a long history of violence, of attacking blokes she’d slept with, of neglecting and mistreating her own children, of attacking shop-keepers and people in the street – but she’d never spent more than a night in gaol. The longest she ever did was about ten days in a Mental Hospital but then discharged herself. Now, if she had been a man…
I also want to thank Tory Shepherd because I did read her shitty little column today and found this site as a result. So many thanks, arsehole!
The red pill/blue pill thing is a reference to the movie The Matrix.
The red pill is the one you take if you want to see The Matrix as it is, the blue pill is the one you take if you want to be oblivious to reality.
We are familiar with the story you mention. We get announcements about stories like that. They are archived in “Women Behaving Badly” sections on various MRA sites as well.
Go see or rent ‘The Matrix’-trilogy for an explanation about the red/blue pill thing. Everytime the characters mention living in or outside the machine defined world in the movies, exchange it with the feminist driven societies and systems that fuck men over, and the analogies becomes transparent and obvious.
Awesome as always, Patrick.
“Remember, all I am offering is the truth..-Nothing more.”
Epic.
http://register-her.com/index.php?title=Katherine_Knight_–_Killer
Jack, I just read your post, after posting my comments on cannibalism, below.
I really enjoyed your little story about Kath Knight the Virgin Mary of Anthropophagy.
Except I’m not goin’ out into the dark Knight tonight.
Had read of it before, googled it to refresh my memory and ran across this article.
http://www.philosophyblog.com.au/about-skinning-your-husband-and-cooking-his-head-katherine-knight-and-john-price/
As if the incident wasn’t enough, I was more astounded to find that in the first few comments, two found it hilarious and funny.
Roll down to the end, and there’s
“feminism… western women… sexism.. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BRUTAL MURDER!!!! I”
yeah, right.
“Now, if she had been a man…”
indeed.
Adelaide Now has over half a million readers each and every weekday.
Adelaide now has phonetics flash cards too. It is hoped they’ll soon be able to construct sentences of their very own.
Cool.
Maybe they’ll even get efficient researchers for their articles later on, so they’ll know what the hell they are writing about.
I like Paul’s riposte to the Shepherd of All Tories, but, he’s still being too kind to gyn-feminism.
I’m referring to the comments about food. Paul says there’s no misandry in the meals he eats. Lucky Paul, because it’s there if you just look for it.
For example, I recently saw a show on a Foodie network where some overweight glutton** went looking for the best recipes for lamb testicles, and ended up in some 3rd-world country with a group of shepherds who did the cuttin’, fryin’, and glutton.
O Tory will ye go, luv, and cut off a few for me?
Now, of course, I will eat anything edible, but not testicles, then-kew veddie much, luv.
The roaming glutton was wildly, explicitly ecstatic over eating the testicles of anything male. Not self-identified as Hanibal Lecter, so this perversity may be spreadng.
Check out this website for gender-sublimated crypto-cannibalism, if you think I’m being too sensitive:
http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2011/05/easy-recipe-for-lamb-testicles.html
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** am still looking for this gentleman’s name.
I can’t wait to see the reaction of Tory to the post I’ll have on my own blog tonight; (since she seems to be going directly after my posts)
Kyle: What happened to your article. I was viewing it and then it just disappeared. I was in the middle of setting up a post on my blog.
@ Primal
Articulating a standard of intellectual honesty is difficult at best. (unfortunately) you are left with the spot judgments of the managment team.
In practice, though, it is really quite simple, IMO. If someone comes into the forum and says, “Wow, look at all you bitter white guys,” and then, when challenged on the racial tone of the statement, looks the other way and whistles, then changes the subject, THAT is intellectual dishonesty.
One thing I love about MRA’s is that most of us answer questions directly and take arguments head on. No evasion, no obfuscation. Admittedly that is really easy to do when you have facts and human decency on your side, but the point remains.
And I have had to apply that same standard to some people identifying themselves as MRAs. A handful of times I have had to deal with posters saying things like “All women are stupid cunts,” etc.
I don’t think they can back that up with a valid argument, and so far they never have. That is intellectual dishonesty, too. (Along with intellectual stupidity).
And suprise, suprise. her editor David Pemberthy is dating the Federal Minister for women.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/white-ribbon-day-in-forums-sight/story-e6frfhqf-1225803968252
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/icb-the-great-feminist-conspiracy-and-mre/
Holy shit, do they not read their own data?
•77% of men (60,900) who experienced physical assault by a female which occurred in a home
•64% of women (125,100) who experienced physical assault by a male which occurred in a home
So that is 1 in 3 for domestic violence, physical violence.
•79,500 men experienced physical assault by a female perpetrator
•195,300 women experienced physical assault by a male perpetrator
And that is just about 1 in 3
The same place the White Ribbon people got there data. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4906.0Main%20Features12005%20(Reissue)?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4906.0&issue=2005%20(Reissue)&num=&view=
Christ, this guy thinks physical assault against men isn’t happening? How do these people get away with saying something is wrong, without backing up their data?
Defensive bluster; journalistic fluff. Significantly, the mangina who penned the first article is less fluffy than the posturing fem who dribbled the second. Hoo hoo hee hee how coulddit be.
I have no particular quibbles with the banning I’ve seen so far. What interests me is that the standard be clearly stated and consistently applied particularly where WE are concerned. For illustration purposes ONLY, is the following post personally insulting or is it intellectual honesty given the content in the preceding posts?
‘“Here is the only thing that I love about Neely:
When dead, she will push up some beautiful daisies.”
I think you are overestimating her.
I believe that cleaner, more consistent and more intellectually honest WE can be the better we will be able distinguish ourselves from the crooks on the other side. I also believe feminists are actively fishing for F(OUR)SU ammo using the very statements we provide em. Therefore it’s important for us not to publicly indulge in the very legitimate rage we feel unless we first ensure that that rage is also intellectually honest.
As for articulating the standard, I agree that the topic is huge and the articulating intellectual standards is difficult. However, I’d bet I could capture the key criteria that management uses by going through the history of the people who have been banned so far. Some short succinct statements (maybe as a pledge prior to offering service) would, IMO, be very useful here for keeping things on track, for calling crap, and for ensuring consistent honesty from all users.
Of course, objective criteria are essential. Orwellian Wikipedia nonsense like ‘assume good faith’ is likely to be worse than nothing at all. Surely, since this is a very well traveled road there have got to be some simple standards that have stood the test of time that could be applied here.
In closing, I hope this is seen as constructive feedback rather than some kind of shot at the very people who have already been at the wrong end of the shooting range.
Well, i think you are right, and of course, I think you are wrong as well.:)
I thought the daisies remark was unecessary. Then again, it was not a call for violence, so there was little for me to do.Can’t give anyone good taste,just ask Agent Pink, lol.
One thing for sure though is that I am not going to bury myself in the semantic quicksand of trying to articulate a finite policy that attempts to cover everthing stupid that might come out of someones mouth before it happens. I can’t imagine a bigger waste of time.
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I like my way better. On the spot judgement with a basic understanding regarding the MRA’s that I draw the line at advocacy for violence.
But I also maintain this is still my website. If I want someone gone, they are going. I won’t rob my freedom to make that decision by writing off my right to make a choice. I would only be setting myself up to violate my own limitations, depending on what came up.
i know it is not perfect, but it is what I do, and so far it is working pretty good so I am going to stick with it.
Your game. Your call. Hope it keeps ‘working pretty good’ as things go boom boom.
that is right.
@Paul Elam
You’ve certainly earned the right to do WYDWP but let the record show I offered.
“When your opponent sets up a straw man, set it on fire and kick the cinders around the stage. Don’t worry about losing the Strawperson-American community vote.” -James Lilek
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” the appearance of the group is that of angry white men, based upon a few aggressive comments …”
Feminist research methods!
Actually bazrah, I did report that more black men in Chicago are killed by their wives than black women are killed by their husbands. US dept. of Justice stats. Did you not read that?
Also, that the largest pool of violent offenders in the entire Canadian penal population, per capita, are female Aboriginals. Did you not read that?
Ok guys, man-up.
So far, nobody here has claimed to have had boiling-hot chitlin’s poured all over their heads, not yet! Nobody has testified to having been par-boiled in curry, or hit with a 15-lb burrito.
All we’re getting is reports of men being suffocated in Bundt Cake — this doesn’t help!
Round up the Diversity Officer — what has she been up to ?
When men have equal protection under the law, I will rethink my anger.
How did this fuckwit get back in?
I suppose he reset his IP or something.
Can’t it be blocked by user name as well.
Let me ask you a question. Have you done any advocacy for men? Any at all ?
Because we have. And we tried being moderate for 20 years,pal. IT DOESN’T WORK. When you are moderate, they laugh at you and no one listens. When you get angry about that, PEOPLE LISTEN.
” I have grown to detest nearly all women especially those with power over me. . . .when someone says that it would probably be a good idea for someone to come and say yeah look mate we understand your frustration, but that’s not really the image we are going for, and maybe we should discuss why you can’t apply your small experiences to “nearly all women”. ”
He just got here, and he has a right to be angry at whoever he wants until he is able to channel that anger towards something constructive. It isn’t my place or anyone else’s to tell him he can’t be angry at all women because of what he’s been through.When he calms down, people will make sure to let him know exactly which women (and men) are responsible for his suffering.
“but when you write a big conspiracy about how feminists are going to lock men up in concentration camps, then I’m sorry but you LOOK LIKE A MORON”
Read the Agent Orange files and come back and tell us how moronic we are.
I’m still searching for recipes for braised ovaries and stewed cow’s teat to serve beside the testicles à l’ancienne that our female cooks have perfected. Can’t find anything. Perhaps Tory can work on that for me.
To return to the subject, Tory has reacted to finding a men’s rights site. A real one, with angry and relevant testimony from real victims; and, with whatever honest research has dug up; and, with evidence that real research has been suppressed.
And she reacts because we’re angry, not just mildly concerned.
And Tory knows that men aren’t allowed to get angry without the wife calling the cop to claim her tits are on fire. And men, knowing that, just keep their oppressed traps shut.
Not here, not now.
I suspect Ms Tory is outraged because she lives in Australia, where radical-feminism has erupted, like a new syphillis sore, broken out, into the political & legal spheres. It had been doing dirty work for years; but the crass power-grab is new.
Whereas North Americans (and Brits) have been wearing this albatross for 30 years. So the anger of MRAs is shocking and the reply, hysterical.
Best reply I’ve read all day, thank you.
Thx, Kyle. Your avatar squirrel has a nose like one of my cats’.
People don’t forget the offline activism, posters stickers, we MUST grow the movement! FTSU.
White-ribbon day, hey? What a great social advance! It’s all so black and white, so cut and dried, so obvious. Women are such victims and they never, ever, do anything to provoke. They are humble, loving, nurturing and care only about protecting their children from all those brutal rogue white men out there (Blackfellas get a pass as they are down-trodden victims of the white-patriarchal imperialist establishment). Women are always as sweet as fairies farts and would never victimize, persecute or bully anyone and, of course, would never tell a lie that would get an innocent person into deep shit.
Does anyone remember the “repressed memory” syndrome of about 20 years ago? When all those white men were accused of having raped their daughters who had “repressed” the memory until it was dug out by (mostly female) psychologist? How many men’s lives were ruined by that femonazi inspired crap? I can remember two cases in Oz where men were gaoled for lengthy sentences because of the lies of hysterical and disturbed females – and it happened all around the world.
Then there was the epidemic of sexual harassment in the workplace. Again, all the victims were women and all the perpetrators were white men. Strangely, in every case that made the papers in Oz, the complainant was an ugly middle-aged bush-pig no bloke would ever look at without the beer-goggles on. But again, many careers were ruined by the shrill screams of the femonazis.
Then there was the epidemic of “repetitive strain injury” (RSI) requiring lengthy absences from work, on full pay of course, and then compensation for the “pain and suffering”. Surprisingly, nearly every victim in Oz was a woman! This terrible ailment just didn’t affect men who used exactly the same keyboards.
Then the Oz Government opened the “Women’s Bureau” and then the “Office of the Status of Women”. One of the first things they did in every Government Department was to set-up a mechanism for dealing with workplace harassment and bullying – so that they could punish all those evil white-men, of course. But you won’t find any published statistics on the gender of the complainant and the gender of those complained about. The stats didn’t support the theory at all, so they are regularly buried. It seems 95% of complainants about workplace bullying are women (Tick – as expected) but 98% of those complained about are female bosses! How could this be? This doesn’t fit the script at all! The only possible answer is that bullied and harassed women are too frightened and intimidated by those brutal men to even lodge a complaint!
When the Queensland State Government first opened one of these misandrist Star Chambers they brought in a heavy-weight Bitch-of-Buchenwald to root out every white, male, predatory, bullying, arsehole boss. Embarrassingly, the entire staff of the Star Chamber went on strike because this bush-pig-in-chief was such a bullying, brow-beating, foul-mouthed tyrant that everyone (male and female) refused to work for her! She did everything she was supposedly there to eradicate.
In Oz we also have this unique and wonderful thing called “Sorry Day” which was started about 15 years ago by (mostly) extreme left-wing feminist and wanne-be Che Guevara’s. The idea is that, back in 1788, the culturally advanced, peace-loving, idyllic-living-in-harmony-with-nature Aboriginal people were invaded by a fleet of nasty white British men who then: stole their land, enslaved them, raped their women, murdered the men, carried out a genocide, and then stole all their children. So now, once a year, these “activists” attempt to shame every white man into signing a “Sorry Book” for all the “crimes” supposedly committed anything up to 224 years ago!
The fact that none of this ever happened is beside the point – the purpose is to punish today’s white-men for the fictional crimes of their ancestors! Seems fair, hey? Just like punishing today’s Jews for the supposed crucifixion 2000 odd years ago.
I have always flatly refused to sign the “Sorry Books” that they set up outside Government buildings, schools, and in shopping centres. Of course, I’m called a “fascist” and a “white chauvinist pig” and all the usual shaming and isolating insults. What they don’t know is that the only “slaves” who worked in chains in this country were exclusively “white” and included four of my direct British ancestors. They also don’t know that I am 1/64 Aboriginal of the Wiradjuri tribe. My grandchildren are 1/16 Ngunnawal – so we could all “identify” as Blackfellas if we wanted to! Yes, I’m a Blackfella, even though I’m white with blonde hair (what’s left of it), my children are all blue-eyed blondes and my little grand-daughter, with her strawberry-blonde hair and azure eyes looks like she’s just arrived from the Highlands of Scotland.
To the femonazis and white-man-hating extremists, I am the visual epitome of everything they despise. I am 60 years old, over-weight, have a sun-burned neck, now own land in the beautiful Snowy Mountains (traditional Wiradjuri land) whereon I raise Hereford cattle, am a university graduate, have been successful in business and am pleasingly ugly.
I am everything the world’s Tory Shepherds hate because they instantly assume I come from a long line of privileged and empowered Anglo-Celtic males who have never known hardship and have never had to struggle for anything. Yep, they’re right! Being a part-Aboriginal descendant of transported convicts, nearly all of whose children were “illegitimate”, we’ve had nothing but privilege and ease since arriving here, more dead than alive, and in chains, on the Second Fleet in 1789! Yep, it’s all been gravy!
Terrific post, Jack!
I take back my comment, which suggested Auslander faminazism was a recent infection. Obviously, it’s only the volume of pus we’re now witnessing as something new.
I hear ya Jack. I’m, probably, one of the few Americans who have read the book ‘Fatal Shore’. I found that a very conflicting, but illuminating, read.
ZenCo
The “Fatal Shore” is a good read. It was given to me by colleagues when I left a teaching job back in 1987. I’d like to read it again, but the “ex” has it, along with many other personal memorabilia of mine – and she ain’t gunna give it back! There’s no reason not to, she just refuses out of pure spite – like she refuses to give me any photographs of our four kids when they were little – and there are hundred of them.
If you are interested in Australian History, and the rampant femonazi/marxist falsification of it, might I suggest Keith Windschuttle’s “The Fabrication of Aboriginal History” (in three volumes). Professor Geoffrey Blainey has also written a lot of articles on the “black arm-band view” of Australian History.
For a country of only 22 million people, we’ve certainly produced more than out fair share of feminist, ball-crushing cunts. Shamed as I am to admit it, that festering pile of shit, Germaine Greer, was Australian. But she’s been living in the UK for about 50 years now, and the Poms can have her. We don’t want the old crone back! She pretty-much started the “feminist” movement with that absurd, turgid and pseudo-intellectual load of crap, “The Female Eunuch”. To demonstrate how mad she is, some years ago she seriously advocated anal intercourse as an effective method of birth control!
I call upon the webmaster to highlight Jack Richards’ testimony, above, perhaps as a special sidebar. This is too good to leave inside a long thread. Jack, you’ve made my day, week, & month.
Females do not exist in a liberty-based reality. They forever are lobbying (unofficially or officially) the powerful men to gain special privilege. They are forever working to manipulate our nobler instincts. Everything they do-from endless propaganda on victimization-to endless preaching on their superiority-is based on controlling males. They appeal to the government to gain control. They exploit our noblers sides to control us. They are at fault for lobbying for special privileges and the powerful men are at fault for providing these advantages. Government is a force for conferring special advantages to women over men. It’s in all spheres of our male live these days. Tonight a voice for liberty spoke eloquently and forcefully. The second place winner in the NH primary was Ron Paul. Our strongest philosophical weapon against the forces of special advantage against males is liberty. When liberty reigns men control their lives. Females as a group will never out-compete and out-perform males when freedom reigns. Our enemy-the government-will know it’s place and not dare tread on males. And neither will the women. Liberty is the pesticide for feminist governance and feminist thinking vermin everywhere.
I have always suspected a “higher power” was at work behind feminism, and that “higher power” is…male.
savethemales.ca – The “Sugar Daddies” Behind Feminism
I am very inept at sports. My husband (was once asked to “go pro” on the Racquetball circuit years ago) was always trying to inveigle me to play racquet ball with him “for practice”.
Amazingly, it seemed I could play Racquetball extremely well. I could keep some vicious volleys going and even managed a kill shot now and then.
I amazed myself!
Then one day a woman I work with invited me to play racquet ball with her, and I accepted, thinking I would have to “tone it down” and not hurt her feelings by beating her too badly.
It was a diaster. I couldn’t hit the ball, she couldn’t hit the ball. We gave it up after about 10 minutes.
The lesson learned? It was my husband’s skill that made ME appear to look good. His expertise placed the ball where even I could get a lob in. He carried the game so well I thought I was an excellent player.
That diasterous racquet ball game has always served as a metaphor for “feminism” – that males in power are setting up the shots while the Femmes congratulate themselves for being “equal” and “anything men can do I can do better”.
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_real_patriarchy_is_plutocr.html
Apr 4, 2009 – Feminists drawing large salaries in universities and NGO’s, all have these unseen sugar daddies. The rank and file don’t know this. They’re too …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtHKI93W_eg&feature=related
You might want to see this.
@ Justicer. Thank you for your support.
I should be doing some work, but it’s the middle of the Oz summer. Living, as I do, in the Snowy Mountains, it’s fucking freezing and pouring rain, so I’ll move the calves tomorrow. It’s a retirement hobby anyway and they won’t starve overnight.
So, as I have plenty of time, I’ll write a few sentences about some more of my pet hates. Oh, I’m an angry white-man (even though I’m part black) that’s for sure.
Topic 1: Political Correctness (PC)
PC is completely out of control in this country – and nearly all the chief inquisitors are women. They have developed a whole Gospel of myths and lies which, if you don’t completely accept them without any evidence at all, immediately brands you as a “racist”, “misogynist”, “hater”, “Hansonite”, “white-male-chauvinist-pig” etc et al.
One of the “accepted truths” of this PC Gospel is that, from 1788 onward, white men have systematically raped Aboriginal women. What sexist, racist, criminal bastards those white men were/are! Indeed, according to the PC Brigade, it was “tacit” Government Policy and then they went around and stole the resulting half-caste children and threw them into brutal orphanages or foster homes. The purpose was a white-male plot to eradicate (i.e. commit genocide with a pink cock) the Aboriginal races entirely! Ethnic cleansing on a grand scale – breed out the blacks! That explains the fact nearly every “Aborigine” in Australia is at least part-white. Indeed, nearly everyone who can trace their ancestry in this country to pre-1840 has some Aboriginal blood (like me).
But the truth is a little bit different to the feminist PC Mantra of Bullshit. The British Government transported around 160,000 convicts to Australia between 1788 and 1860. The great majority of them were men. Thus there was a huge shortage of white women.
The Aboriginal tribes, at that time, lived in a constant state of war with each other and the young men regularly killed each other over hunting grounds and the prettiest girls. Also, to become an “initiated man” in most tribes, young men had to pass a fairly brutal “ordeal” which included being thoroughly beaten by the elders, circumcised and sub-incised with a sharpened stone; and going off to the sacred sites alone – often hundreds of miles away in the bush. Only about half of Aboriginal boys survived to be Aboriginal men. Thus, there was a great surplus of Aboriginal women.
So there were lots of lonely white men and just as many lonely black women. The white men knew how to build a house, plant a crop, husband sheep and cattle, and had stuff like cloth, grog, sugar, tea, flour – great luxuries to an Aboriginal girl.
The point being: No white man had to rape an Aboriginal woman – they were only too happy to part their legs for the first bloke to offer them a permanent roof over their heads, a bag of flour, and a pouch of tobacco. Maybe some of them even liked each other!
Of course the PC feminists won’t accept this rather tawdry truth at all. Nope! It was an example of white men using economic power and privilege to turn black women into domestic slaves and sex objects!
But their argument wobbles a bit when I point out that I am partly descended from an Aboriginal man and a white woman – and all he owned was a kangaroo-skin loin cloth and a spear. She was an Irish convict from Limerick who went bush after serving-out her time as a “domestic” assigned-servant on a sheep station out west of Wagga Wagga. That wasn’t uncommon in those days. I’d say that going native, living on the fringe, and wandering the bush would have been a great exercise in freedom after seven years in chains in the priest-ridden white society of the 18th and 19th Centuries.
Now here’s another unfortunate fact that somewhat explodes the “white men rape black women” myth. The great majority of “Aboriginal” women (I read a statistic that it’s about 70%) still marry or cohabit with non-Aboriginal men! The figure for Aboriginal men marrying or cohabiting with non-Aboriginal women is even greater!
Once you make up these lies, they become very hard to defend. It’s a very complicated matter to decide who is, and who is not, an Aborigine! Indeed it is so tough that all you need to do is claim that you are – and that’s it, you’re now officially and “Aborigine”.
Up until about 40 years ago it was a disadvantage to be identified as an “Abo” in Australia. But then the Government brought in all these “affirmative action” programs, grants and hand-outs. Suddenly the population of self-identifying “indigenous” persons exploded and the whole thing has turned into a complete farce – particularly in Tasmania where one tribe of “fair-skinned” Aborigines (i.e. they look more like Norwegians than anything else) have accused another “tribe” of fair-skinned Aborigines (who look very Irish/Scots) of not being “blacks”! Ha, ha, ha – what a joke! But all the bleeding-heart PC feminists keep weaving more and more bullshit to try to keep the lid on the shit-can.
In my own family, my maternal grand-father’s grand-mother was always referred to as being “French”. Well her father might have been, but her mother was the daughter of that Irish lass and that Wiradjuri man. On the strength of that, I am more “Aboriginal” than anyone in the two Tasmanian tribes fighting over who’s legally Black!
It is utterly ridiculous – but this whole nonsense has teeth and is backed up by the Courts. Recently a journalist in Australia (Andrew Bolt) was charged, and convicted, of breaching the “Racial Discrimination Act” because he identified about a dozen “fair-skinned Indigenous people” he accused of being ‘Professional Aborigines” who had “identified” as such solely to take advantage of the Government grants and hand-outs.
If you Google this case, you can find photos (and bio’s) of the “offended” Aboriginal people. Make up your own mind. Is this PC gone totally insane or what? Incidentally, I have never “identified” but I have as much, or more, Aboriginal blood as any of the people who brought the charges against Mr Bolt.
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– That’s after or if the wife or girlfriend, without any corroborating evidence, hasn’t already had a man jailed for assault or physical battery basis her word alone, the very thing some females around the western world enjoy perpetrating daily.
And this infringement of one of the most basic rights known, a principle from the most earliest and rudimentary modern law practices – presumption of innocence and the investigative process due to accusation – has been laid to waste by feminist colluding assholes around the world.
Isn’t it something that feminists predicate equality to men by demanding special freebies and hand-outs for themselves only, and at every man’s expense yet?
Feminists want for all women what men have worked for and achieved but believe themselves and other women shouldn’t be required to work equally for to achieve the same result. Some would call this larcenous process “equality of outcome”. I call it theft.
Feminists declare equality to men by demanding for themselves the very things that men never had – exclusive government enforced hiring practices, exclusive protections, exclusive health care departments, exclusive bureaucracies devoted to studying themselves as people believing it rivals a few men’s notable accomplishments – and have the rank stupidity to call this crooked process ‘equality’.
Then a bevy of these stupid fucks further castigate men when today’s man yells foul to feminism’s utterly decrepit disgusting displays of demagogism and delusion.
All it takes is a few concurrent natural disasters to crumble the frailty of human infrastructure. If this happens remember the names of those who organized such deceit and misery upon the men and all people of good will. They will be useful as hard gruelling grunt labour for the re-building process. I may even volunteer to crack the whip.
Thanks again Jack and others posting, above.
Jack, I wish I was in Aus; I’d be helping you pull together a book, if you needed the help.
‘Course, publishers are increasingly in the thrall of a feminized readership, graduates of our misandric academies. By contrast, men are reading less and less. We might have to recite the book aloud in town squares.
Since publishers and editors are overwhelmingly women that would make sense.
I tried to leave the following comment under Tory’s article:
“Australian women like Tory don’t know anything about White Ribbon Day. They think it started as a campaign to end “DV against women”. If any of them bothered to educate themselves then they’d realise that it’s held on the same day that Marc Lepine — a Muslim man who changed his name to Marc Lepine after migrating to Canada — shot up a class room of women at a Montreal university on the 6th of December, 1989. It’s known as the Montreal Massacre and Polytechnique Massacre. Marc Lepine committed the crime because he took exception to the hypocritical practices that were introduced at the behest of feminists.For example, Lepine took offence to affirmative action and other policies that allow women to work alongside men WITHOUT having to be as qualified. Women who wish to work in the police force and military are not tested as rigorously and are given employment ahead of men who are stronger, faster, more durable and better equipped to handle a gun. Lepine took exception to this because it was his dream to join the military. The military kept on turning him down even though he was more qualified than the women who were accepted into it.
Anyway, back to the original subject. The feminists in Canada used the actions of that ONE man — who happned to be a Muslim from North Africa, which is a fact that Canadian feminists never acknowledge — to claim that there’s an epidemic of man-on-woman homicide in Canada that is committed for no other reason than “all men hate women”. It was one of the biggest straw-mans in history. The universal White RIbbon Day is a byproduct of the hysteria that was created by the Canadian feminists.
To get an idea of how stupid the White RIbbon Day is then consider the following scenario. A day is devoted to remembering the horrific murders that were committed by lesbians who have vampiric fetishes. There have been at least two of them in Australia: Tracey Wigginton and her lesbian friends lured a man to Orleigh Park (on the banks of the Brisbane River in West End, Brisbane), then Tracey killed him and drank his blood, and; a couple of teenage lesbian lovers from Perth who had a vampiric fetish killed a British teenager a few years ago. The campaign is used to portray all lesbians as murderous psychopaths who think they are vampires. Billions of dollars are wasted on getting this message out. Lesbians like Ellen DeGeneres (sp?) are bullied into stating that they will never kill a person and drink their blood.
I sincerely doubt that Tory and her feminist friends will understand the hypothetical situation I just mentioned, but some of the smarter men and women on here will. “
Guess what?
My comment wasn’t published!
I guess the pathetic people at ThePunch.com.au won’t allow an Australian MRA to post a few facts that prove them wrong. The idiots at Adelaide Now blocked all of my comments.
My comment was no more insulting towards Tory and her mates than her article was to us. If she’s going to dish it out then she can learn to take it. I guess ThePunch.com.au’s moderation team is run by a bunch of manginas who cannot get sex until they pay for it or grovel like little bitches.
Good effort MRO, to get past Comrade Femcensor.
Just a couple of tweaks to suggest.
- That Marc Lepine (Dec. 6 event) ‘took exception’ to the specifics of anti-male discrimination; I’m not sure I’ve seen the proof of that. He is alleged to have yelled something about ‘feminists’ and to have left a suicide note, but no-one I know has ever seen it, certainly not in publication, just rumored about. I’d be more inclined to think that Lepine was a failed and humiliated person who transferred his self-loathing onto the people around him.
- This makes his post-mortem fate even more odious. Lepine was depicted as “Poster-boy for all men,” capable of committing mass murder against women. That is the literal description of how this man was depicted by feminists of the time, the State, and media, for more than 10 years, and that continues, although it’s becoming more nuanced. It’s still called the “National Day of Remembrance” for the women who died.
By way of contrast, there is no National Day of Remembrance for the firemen in Canada who died saving female smokers from the fires the latter have caused. And there is no National Day of Remembrance for Aboriginal men in Canada, killed by the hyperviolent girlfriends they have frequented in their own communities.
Making it all worse is that the shaming and the gender-smear are greased by the choice of these victims: young and attractive. In other words, they were valuable and exploitable poster-girls for misandrists, and they continue to be. In the face of this exploitation, you can’t even afford to be a human being; saddened by this horrific crime, but rational about it, you can’t even express your sorrow for fear of it being coopted by feminism.
More and more, men are referring to Dec. 6 as a Blood Libel Day against men, and refusing to lend it any support. In the media, male journalists don’t touch it; it has been left to enlightened women to object to the exploitation and they are always attacked.
A final word. Your submission to that Australian paper would have been censored for many political reasons; however, I suspect it’s the word Lesbian that pressed the Delete button. The lesbian portion of organized feminism is a power centre and a violent and bullying movement. Lesbians are over-represented in media, wildly so, at the level of copy-editor. They exert their influence by simply cutting out whatever they don’t want printed.
But there are other ways they work. For example, they will go see the editor-in-chief, and threaten him/her with a Discrimination charge if he/she continues to allow readers to voice concerns over lesbian behavior. They’ll call it Hate Speech, a crime in most Western countries now. Or, call in the Diversity Officer or someone called the Human-Rights Officer. The manager will not bother to object — too much risk of litigation; too much time wasted on triviality, which is how press freedom is now regarded when it comes to standing up for fairness.
This is not an exaggeration; this is how organized lesbianism works at Universities, where a single unorthodox whisper about lesbian politics can get the whisperer, howsoever scholarly or well intended, into serious trouble.
justicer,
You’re 100% right about the lesbian movement. Many of the second-wave feminists were lesbians.
There’s a militant homosexual agenda at play. The liberals have endorsed it. The education system has thrown their weight behind the perverts. Their goal is to normalise homosexuality and force it down everyone’s throat. The homosexual men are a health risk to society — over 53% of persons with HIV in America are homosexual men, even though homosexual men account for only 2% of the American population. That’s alarming, but what’s even more alarming is the fact that lesbians tend to hatemongering thugs who use underhanded tactics to oppress normal people.
I might start an anti-lesbian campaign on my website. If it pisses the feminazis off then it’ll be worth it.
I left a response to Tory Shephard on my website:
http://news.mens-rights.net/index.php/au/thepunch-toryshephard
The gay male, civil-rights movement no longer exists.
What exists nowadays is a morbid counter-culture of sex and thrill. Yes, I agree that ‘normalization’ of gay sexual orientation is the goal. A portion of that is frank recruitment into gay sex by larger populations of youth; a portion is the still-legitimate tolerance (my view) of sexual-orientation diversity. In other words, to fight unreasonable hatred of homosexuality.
The only socially necessary gay movent, in the entire Western world (non-US), in my view, is the one that defends gay youth, those teenagers who are victims of terrible bullying, isolation, and abuse by their parents. Their rate of suicide is appalling, and we must do something for them.
Other than that, where gay men (outside the US) are in politics, it’s to parrot the lesbians who run the show.
I used to be tolerant towards homosexuals, but these days I’m wary of them. I know there are some decent homosexuals out there, but the damage that the homosexual community (as a whole) causes seems to outweigh the good that they do.
The homosexuals who do not flaunt their sexuality are okay. I’ll fight for their Human rights. I won’t support gay marriage or gay civil unions, but I’ll support their right to be treated like Human beings in all other aspects of society.
MRO, that’s a wider issue. Possibly this is not the best place to get that aired out.
Briefly, I support the concept of ‘gay marriage’ as a stop-gap measure, to repair psychological damage to gays who’ve been raised in the normal society, with its coupling conventions, and to encourage same-sex couples to get serious about commitment and, in the case of gay men, cease being attracted to cheap thrills (which is frankly at the root of the AIDS epidemic).
I have no religious objections to the word ‘marriage’. However, to meet those objections, in places such as the US, creating Civil Unions for gays is acceptable, with all rights and responsibilities that pertain thereto.
However, I’m opposed, utterly opposed, to child-rearing by anyone except a solid, functioning, heterosexual couple.
Rule out gay or lesbian adoption, period, it’s a utopian fantasy. Kids come from procreative units.
Make illegal the practice of artificial-insemination of lesbians so they can realize the fantasy of manufacturing a “family” without men. Just get rid of this lunacy.
The idea of allowing lesbians to have custody over a child is loathesome in the extreme; gay fathers who can show that they are good fathers can be allowed to keep kids. But the child-protection office should monitor that in the beginning.
The only exception in the case of lesbians I’d make (a real issue– there are hundreds of kids living under lesbian roofs in the small area I live in) is where a competent childcare expert examines the children regularly for signs of distress or abuse, and where the kids are clearly more at ease with the lesbian “mother” than with any alternative.
Perhaps this website will consider creating a sort of “Section” where gay-themed issues might be discussed…
The Adelaide Now publication blocked the following comment:
“I’m a men’s rights activist from Brisbane. I own the website Men’s Rights Online. Wouldn’t it have made sense for the author to have interviewed me? After all, the author did speak about men’s rights in Australia… Yet she only quoted American and English MRAs…. Funny that. I’m also a qualified freelance journalist. I received my diploma in 2007. So I think I can say I am more than qualified to identify a dud article when I see one. This article stands out as a dud: it is a one-sided rant that lacks substantiated content. One of the first things I learnt when I studied journalism is that the author’s opinion is irrelevant to the reader. I also learnt that it’s important to get as many quotes as possible from all parties that are acknowledged in the story. Anyway people, visit my website and decide for yourself if I’m guilty of the author’s accusations. I have statistics on my website from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, America’s Bureau of Justice and Stats Canada. I cite scholarly investigations that have been approved by leading researchers. I quote former state prosecutors who opined on subjects such as false accusations of rape. Here’s my site: http://www.mens-rights.net”
I contacted the paper’s administration manager, Greg Mules. He wasn’t there, so I left a message. I asked him to tell me which mangina blocked my comment. That’s the exact wording I used.
I think the cunts are worried about acknowledging me because I’m an Australian and everything I said is spot on.
Let’s see if Mr Mules responds.
Let’s see if Mr Mules responds.
Do not hold your breath. However you may get a canned response not directed at you.
The phone call seems to have done the trick. My comment is now visible on Adelaide Now.
If the sub-editors are feminazis, lesbians or manginas then hopefully they will have learnt a valuable lesson: MRAs are starting to stand up for their rights.
Splendid. Nice work MRO.
Why is the Australian Family is courts run by bigotry,
Isn’t there a law against bigotry?
Please outlaw feminist bigotry and abuse of power.
Where has Australian dignity gone, fair go Australia?
Not anymore.
http://fathersunionaustralia.com/wp/
Excellent response Paul – tweeted with a whole hash of hashtags
@ Tory Shepherd
Colour me creepy too, you lying bitch, if asking for my rights to be equal to the same rights provided for women so be it.
We are here to fuck your shit up & rightfully so, you & every anti-male ideology demagogue that comes along this so called ideological tug of war, when all it is men & women who had enough of your misandrist lying ideology, whether in Australia or the US of A.
Spin & paint these men & women in the (MRM) as misogynist, women haters all you want, you & the rest of the scum bags feminazies masquerading as humanists when in fact all you & these radical feminist sisters of yours are bed fellows of the same motives & goals, you old bag & make no mistake about it we are here (men & women) to fuck your shit up, you old hag.