O.K., so far, here is what we know. 29 year old April Holmes of Houston got into an argument with her husband Donald Wesley Holmes, also 29. According to neighbors, she ran into him, as he was standing, with her car, and then in a style reminiscent of fellow Houston murderess Clara Harris, ran over him several more times to make sure he was good and dead.
You might think I want to do an analysis of violent women- or point this out to feminists who are always saying men are the problem.
Booorrrring!
Instead, since the event is fresh as of today, September 7th, 2010, I want to post this article as the beginning of the very first A Voice for Men Countdown to the Big Excuse Event.
I want to time this one, and readers are welcome to start a pool, to see just how long it takes before her attorney, or the media, or some politician comes out with some reason for us to believe that she is not just another murdering bitch, but how she was driven to it from abuse, mental illness, being on her period, or as a response to 3,000,000 years of patriarchal oppression.
People in the comments at The Houston Chronicle have already beat the mainstream to it with claims that she must have been provoked by the track marked husband. One even commented, with cloying empathy, “she has the saddest eyes I have ever seen.”
Sniff.
Really, these people don’t count. We all know the average reader ingesting mainstream media news is brainwashed beyond hope.
My interest is in establishing and refining what I call the Gender Excuse Time Index- or how long it takes after death is pronounced before the real push for public sympathy comes out on behalf of the female killer. I think Andrea Yates (also of Houston) has the record so far, but I will have to do some research.
I am guessing in this case it will be 96 hours (or less) before one or more soundbites about how she was the real victim -not the dead and mangled husband- will be delivered to a desperate and impatient public from a high profile source.
Do I hear 72 hours? 48?
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Paul Elam:
Dannyboy:
Patrick Henry:
KARMA MRA MGTOW:
Skeptic:
im actually gonna go a little further and say 120
I’m going a little more narrow: 72 hours from this time: 9/8/2010, 12:35 am, EDT.
That will take into account how this story gets digested and spun by the feminazi/man-hating MSM.
48 hours, tops.
JHC! That’s almost like a replay from War of the Roses, except much much worse. Something this brutal–I’m not a betting man but I’ll take your 48 and see you 36.
What a horrible way to die. He must have been completely pulped.
While we’re at it, could we also have a Doomsday Clock for feminism that predicts total social meltdown?
I give it one week from the incident before her side makes a statement regarding the incident spinning it on the husband.
I see news outlets taking about 3 days before they have a “specialist” announce it.
I think this is a worthy idea, and I’ll have a go. I say it doesn’t even make it through the first news cycle. As in, at least one of the main outlets will spin it as such from the outset.
But of course, this is highly dependent on the criteria for ‘officially excused’. First major network, or do we have to wait for her defense lawyer to say something?
I think that soon no attempt to offer excuses will even be made. The default position of a woman being blameless, no matter how hideous her behavior, is already with us.
Only a week ago a local woman was a rare recipient of special leniency in sentencing after she plunged a knife into her husband’s heart. She had a long history of violence against him, having stabbed him previously and having cost him an eye after hitting him over the head with a bottle. Still the police would lay no charges against her, so that by the time she got around to murdering him there were 500 pages of police documents relating to her abuse.
But the judge decided to waive the mandatory life sentence for someone found guilty of murder by a jury, claiming that it would be “manifestly unjust”. Instead she got 8 years with no minimum parole, meaning she’ll be out in 2 years 8 months time (this waiver has been invoked only once before, for a man who helped euthanize his terminally ill wife). The judge’s rationale? Not that the husband was a brute – oh no, he was actually represented in court as the male equivalent of a battered wife, and no-one challenged this account of him.
The judge believed the woman’s past was so horrifically violent that she deserved special leniency – even though she herself was a principal actor in that violence, and it was she that chose the lifestyle.
I shit you not.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/4077164/Eight-years-for-murder
She’ll get the P-pass almost immediately, then there will be complete media silence and no one will ever know what came of it. That’s my guess.
Paul: this is a genius idea, and should be done every time this happens.
My bid is for … 36 hours. Just to be awkward.
@ mongo,
“The judge believed the woman’s past was so horrifically violent that she deserved special leniency – even though she herself was a principal actor in that violence, and it was she that chose the lifestyle.”
The lesson I take from this is that, if you’re going to murder or abuse somebody, you’d better do it as violently and horrifically as possible, because then you will get less punishment for it.
Thankyou, feminist judge! I take this lesson to heart, and should the occasion ever arise, I will be sure to apply it in practice!
See wtf I meen fucking slut deserves 70 years IDC.
Burn her at the stake
Great idea.
The whole victim mentality has handicapped our culture.
In the workplace, one can see how niceness and getting along for fear of lawsuits, shaming etc has superseded competition and drive.
It is only when we turn this on its head will truth begin to emerge.
By the way, does anyone in North America REALLY care about the rest of the world? And should we?
If this is the established zero hour, 9/8/2010, 12:35 am, EDT , I say 16 hours or by the reading of the 6 o’clock news. If there is any statement made at all.
I want to know if there will be a bonus round to guess the excuse.
I heard the winner gets to go on a date April Holmes. WOW she’s my new favorite thug bitch. I’ll bet she has enough gas in that car for one more good ride.
This tactic may do a lot to reduce the gender excuse propaganda (pussy pass) if the local media is notified that such cases are being forwarded to mens rights sights where they will be wagered upon as to how long before the excuses start. Perhaps a point system could be added as to which excuse was used; such as emotional issues, abuse as a child, abuse as an adult, hormonal imbalance, etc. As most local newspapers have online commenting, it would be easy to notify them that the story is being monitored. Maybe a separate sight could be set up for just such a purpose.
@ Factory
I was thinking we go with first statement of that kind from any major source, IOW, from anyone affiliated with or covering the story in the MSM.
Shades of what may come, already in the first news stories:
“Harris County Sheriff’s Office homicide investigators… learned that Donald and April Holmes were having marital problems. Witnesses told investigators that the couple had an argument and physical fight earlier Monday.
“…Sgt. Curtis Brown with the Sheriff’s Office homicide division said the couple lived in separate homes.”
“A friend who rushed to the scene says she overheard April Holmes say it was an accident, but the friend said she didn’t believer her.”
Maybe, maybe not. The clock ticks on…
They are already looking for “What made her snap.” Obviously not her fault.
http://www.39online.com/news/local/kiah-domestic-murder-story1,0,5582397.story
It takes some time for the women’s shelter activists to get organized and manipulate the system. First they must get access to her and convince her she is a victim, then they will be out in force.
My bet is next monday september 13
@ archmage_jo
From your link.
“There was no word on what may have made April allegedly snap” (note how they are already referring to her by her first name)
Ayup. But they are indeed looking for that “word.”
And we have not even reached 24 hours yet. I may have been too generous with my estimate.
@ anyone
Could we setup a statistics sheet on this exciting new sport.
Like an online wiki-template that could be filled out for past and current
“countdown contestants”
If anyone has ideas on criteria and would list them you could email your suggestions to mensbucketlist@gmail.com
I’d be happy to transpose the criteria into an adobe form. Someone else would need to setup the database online. (I don’t know how)
I could even offer a site location if needed.
any takers
@Paul (happy to email the password to you for address I listed above)
@ Keith
I think we should do it. I will dedicate a page to it here if we can get someone(s) to create the form and translate it to a graph. Or we could just make this the pilot case and set up a chronological list of each “killer turned cultural victim,” with their crime, some info on their victims, the date and time of the crime of the crime, and the final tally, in hours before they were proclaimed to be misunderstood sugar and spice.
@Paul
I can do an adobe form and forward it. I’ll send you the password to
mensbucketlist@gmail.com (I’ll open a folder called killer contestants)
If the form lists criteria and a blank one can be called up. Anyone interested could do past events. Giving a better graph. If a notice could be posted to suggest the criteria for a stats sheet I could start the form now!!
Suggestions could be forwarded to
mensbucketlist@gmail.com
subject “killer contestants”
I Wager 50,000 Quatloos she will be sympathized by midnight tonight.
Perfect! This should be fun!
OK, here’s what I propose then…
We track:
Killers name
Crime
Media outlet first to excuse
Reporter first to excuse
Excuse proffered
Sentence (if any)
Any thoughts? We could make graphs out of all of that info, some of it could be damaging as hell to any media outlet consistent enough in the excuses…same with reporters….
also
method of murder
length of relationship
plea entered (would be interesting if plea is effected by media)
also for those interested, this site is a bit of an eye opener.
http://couplesinthenews.marriagescene.com/category/wives-killing-husbands/
This just in on this case, and isn’t this just fucking rich.
The only thing unusual here is that the paper even bothered to print the cousin’s opinion of why he was arrested.
@ Keith
I think we also need “Rescued by:” quote, and the media source.
Never mind, just saw Factories post.
LOL!
@ Keith, Factory
We should also include name and some sort of link, if possible to whatever “expert” (read feminist ideologue) is touted by the media and used to tell us how 4 out of 3 women, blah, blah, blah.
Court-Appointed her an attorney.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7656352
loosin hope in the Justice system already ….
n more importantly,.. i wonder if shes ashamed of wht shes done… (or tellin herself:-BULLSEYE) ?!!
This is a really, really, REALLY wonderful thing you are all doing.
I can’t imagine what pain the family of Donald Wesley will be going through right now to learn of the tragic, brutal murder of their father?/son/brother/grandson/uncle/cousin etc, but I think they would find slight comfort knowing there was someone out there who thought Donald’s life was of value and that they deserve more than to hold their head in shame because it’s was a woman that brutally murdered Donald.
@ Sha
My money is on the idea that she is ACTING sorrowful for what she has done, but inside, she’s thinking BULLSEYE.
One standard earth day.
Don’t forget the time she’ll be let out on bail before trial (if there is one) will be more than long enough for her to get pregnant, if she wants to take the ‘don’t jail a pregnant woman’ card.
@ Paul
And all her little thug girlfriends are telling her, “You go girl”
you mean that this has not happened yet?
i didn’t think there would be time for a count-down to innocence because of the many excuses the “system” gives women to get away with murder of their significant other
“The husband’s family denied he assaulted her, and said his wife had assaulted him in the past, including holding him at gunpoint during December’s incident.”
This is a very interesting case study. I’ve heard about this in other male domestic homicides, where there was a prior arrest of the male but the violent female was unaffected. Her abusive nature was never addressed by the system and later they got back together and she killed him.
I wonder how he got six months if as his family claims he never hit her. Even if the abuse was reciprocal, he is a victim of the system that ignored his abusive wife.
Mrs Holmes very well may have a mental illness—perhaps a personality disorder or paranoid ideation. However, it doesn’t matter what made her snap. The fact that she deliberately ran another human being over with her car repeatedly (heck, just once is bad enough) ought to bar her from grazing with the rest of the herd.
If I were a betting woman, I’d put my money on: “Mrs Holme’s attorney, Ms Gloria Allred, issued a statement today that Mrs Holmes suffered long-term physical and emotional abuse at the hands of her husband, Mr Holmes. She has also has an undiagnosed mood disorder, which was exacerbated by Mr Holmes’ abuse. Oh, and Mr Holmes was cheating on her, which caused Mrs Holmes to snap.”
Even if the above actually turns out to be true, she could have divorced him and then tortured him for the rest of his life. Then again, maybe it was one of those pesky Prius accelerator snafus.
10…9…8…7….
@ Dr. T,
Oh, you betcha, it was the Prius thing. In fact, I think she should now sue for the loss of her husband. Not.
Thanks for dropping by to comment. For those of you living under very large igneous formations that have not heard of Dr. Palamatier, you will find a link to her site in my sidebar.
Her writings on personality disordered females are the rockin’ best, 5 star material. Check it out.
Paul, this is off topic but I thought you’d like to see this. Perhaps you’ll even find this worthy of a post. Look at the poor security guard. Paid to enforce the status quo. And the women circle the narrator like the SS to make sure the gynocracy crushes all dissent. Unbelievable.
That old bag Gloria Allred needs to keel over and die already. Prolific misandrist AND bloodsucking lawyer in one. Every time I hear of her being in a case is when it’s in defense of some sort of indefensible injustice like this or opposing things like paternity fraud laws. I’m pretty sure that in one of his shows that Tom Leykis even said one of his wives who cheated on him and then divorced him hired this bitch to try to “take him for all he’s worth” but he managed to survive this with minimal loss by saying he’d repeatedly tell the world what a cheating slut she was through his considerable amount of listeners if she went through with it.
@dE
But then who would defend and secure book deals for Tiger Woods’ former IHOP (or was it Perkin’s) paramours and cocktail waitresses? Who would defend their reputations?
I rather enjoy her hypocrisy. She tried to make a difference, I think, in the beginning of her career and now she’s a regular fixture on TMZ. She’s part of Sideshow USA now.
It brought a smile to my face seeing Allred on Inside Edition demanding an apology for the woman Tiger slept with and then there were the allegations of extortion on TMZ. It just shows how low she has sunk.
@ Denis
When the have the system in place to solidify Gender Excuse Time Index, we should consider using the names of icons like Allred as indicators of speed.
in 6 months she will be on oprah, just like mary winkler.
@ Dr. Tara
Just want to say, I’m a big fan. I read all your articles and learned a lot!
Any men who want to pass the shit test and keep their sanity…learn from Dr. Tara.
She has intellectual honesty and can be trusted for advice.
Still no public reports of victimhood, almost 72hrs.
I suspect that feminists are becoming more careful and reluctant to publically support such complete nutcases. Regardless, I fully expect that she will used battered women’s syndrome as a defense.
@ Denis,
I am still betting on it coming out. Her lawyer is obligated to conjure up something, and DV/Battered Wife Syndrome is still the M.O. for this.
I don’t think that there has been any public statement by her lawyer yet. Let’s see what happens next week.
@Denis
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it. I’m glad you found the info on my site, but wish you didn’t need it.
@Paul
Thank you for the endorsement AND thank you for the interview you generously did for shrink4men recently. It’s very good stuff. Readers over on my site have already express their gratitude for the information you so eloquently provided.
@ Dr. T
Doing the interview was my pleasure. And it provided a great opportunity to do something that I should take the time to do more often, which is talk about men’s issues from an introductory level.
I tend to forget, for whatever godawful reason, that there is many men who still have never heard of any of this stuff. I hope your allowing me to field some questions for your readers will help point some men in the right direction.
Wow. I’m absolutely amazed that I haven’t heard about how she’s a poor victim yet….
That is because there have been no public statements at all about the case from her attorney…yet.
The trial will out things, I am betting.