Feminist Governance

Urgent news! Political update!

The Congress has convened under urgency rules in a marathon session to rush through emergency laws to cope with increasing outbreaks of Men’s Human Rights Activism. Here’s a rundown of new legislation which will impact on readers of AVFM –

The Presumption of Future Divorce Act

Marriage law is now changed such that signing the marriage certificate brings forward the wholesale transfer of assets from husband to wife that usually takes place upon the divorce.

The new Presumption of Future Divorce Act states that in order to make any future divorce more efficient, men must transfer all bank accounts, businesses and property into the wife’s name on signing of the marriage certificate. It is hoped that this new legislation will bring down the cost and stress of divorce and allow women full control of her husbands assets immediately, without the extended delays common with the divorce process.

Businesses celebrated the new law by offering all newly-wed women a special pampering weekend for only $10,000 (specially reduced from $10,001) and an unlimited line of credit at fashion stores. They said the take up of the offers has “been phenomenal or perhaps pheremonal, they weren’t sure.

One newly married woman exclaimed: ”I could never have afforded this without this great change in the law. My husband would never spend like this and the financial freedom I now enjoy can only strengthen our marriage.”

When asked, husbands-to-be shrugged and cited that it was not something that bothered them because: “divorce is something that happens to other people, and in any event, my future wife is not like that.”

The DNA Contributors Act

Government today formalized what has always been unofficially practiced and enforced by the family court and stripped all fathers of legally presumed parental rights.

The new law means that all fathers are now officially renamed DNA Contributors and their sole legal right is the responsibility to pay for their child’s upbringing. Women’s groups said that this was a perfectly fair arrangement as “no mother would deny a man access to his child if he was a decent DNA Contributor”, and it would greatly simplify custody hearings because such hearings would simply no longer be necessary.

“Formalizing the arrangement between mothers and sperm donor in this way, makes it much easier for mothers to deal with DNA Contributors who are not behaving as she would like”, said Charlotte Harpy of the campaign group ‘Mother Knows Best’. “And it also makes it easier for the DNA Contributors, because they now know ahead of time that they will fail to see their children if they go to court, rather than kidding themselves over years and years of court appearances, that there might be a chance.

“Everybody wins,” she added.

DNA Contributor groups did not offer a comment as they were too busy designing a logo for their new name: ‘DNA Contributors 4 Justice’.

The Legal Human Castration Act

Hilarious Katherine cuts for pleasure.

From today, it is legally permissible for a wife to castrate her husband or boyfriend if she has suffered abuse from him in the past. The evidence required to prove that she received abusive treatment from the castrated spouse is a sworn statement from the woman that he was indeed abusive and/or made her cry.

The minimum required level of abuse for her to be acquitted, is set at shouting and/or door-slamming. Dame Brenda Hale was also said to offer that: “periods of ignoring her for longer than 60 minutes and the purchase of one or more unwanted gifts for the woman would also count as abuse severe enough to justify castration.”

Further, the man would not be permitted to ask that she actually prove that he was abusive, because the Legal Human Castration Act presumes that in enduring the unpleasant task of severing his testicles, she has suffered enough.

The All Female University Act

All-female universities are to open now that so few men are doing well enough to attend university.

It is thought that bringing proper focus to women – who now make up the vast majority of students – would help bring equality to education by delivering more appropriate tuition to women, who are continually denied this when men occupy the same campus.

University doors and entryways can now officially be painted pink, rather than just metaphorically and university staff have come out fully in favor of the new measures. As Samantha Smeghead, professor of Gender Studies remarked: “Women will finally be able to express themselves more freely with the patriarchal agents removed from the classroom and, anyway, men tend to make the campus look scruffy.”

It is also thought that incidences of campus sexual assault and rape should be much reduced, seeing as the only men on campus will be janitors and gardeners. All such staff will be required to work in pairs and made to wear police monitored electronic tags. Additionally, an armed female supervisor will be close by, ready to respond in case of any attempts of sexual harassment by the men, or even worse, any attempt to enroll.

Women’s groups lauded the proposals and it is expected to pass into law without opposition. Men’s groups could not be reached for comment, as it was a big rugby weekend.

The Women’s Prison Closure Act

Women’s prisons are to formally close their doors to women with immediate effect. Existing female prisons will be converted to men’s prisons after being renovated to make them less comfortable.

The government has fully adopted the proposals put forward by the Women’s Justice Task force in 2011 and has decided that prison is not the right punishment for female criminals. Women will now not face the arduousness of trials for their crimes and will instead face a three-woman panel to decide what level of community service she will need to serve, dependent on the severity her crime.

Murder will carry a maximum sentence of 3 years service, which might consist of working most weekends at shelters for battered women or similar severe punishment. She will also be required to write an essay, explaining why what she did was wrong.

This article awarded!

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The Presumption of Abuse Act

Murder of a husband or boyfriend, however, will carry much less severe sentences than other murders under the new Presumption of Abuse Act, which affords women the legal presumption of acting in self-defense whenever she kills an intimate male partner. This will save the court’s time and tax payer’s money, by fast-tracking women who kill their male partners and sparing them the trauma of a long investigation or trial, or having to demonstrate a syndrome.

Men’s groups sent several emails in protest, saying that this made them “second-class citizens”. The Prime Minister responded in a recent interview saying that men needed to: “stop whining and man-up! Women would not go back in the box and if you are unlucky enough to be killed or castrated by your spouse, then you undoubtedly deserved it.”

The Extended Abortion Act

Women can now no longer be prosecuted for killing their children, provided that the child is younger then 3 years old.

The new Late Abortion Act allows women to extend her existing license to kill a child, from the current maximum 24 weeks, to up to the new maximum of 3 years after birth, providing she can find a women’s advocate to testify that she is afflicted by one of the 216 distinct syndromes that are proven to only affect women.

It is expected that most women will still use the favorite Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy when they murder their babies. However, others are expected to try out the newer Abdication of Responsibility Syndrome and Temporary Loss of Adulthood Syndrome.

Still others, might go for the brand new Comprehensive Female Multi-Spectrum Generic Temporary Loss of Any and All Responsibility Disorder Syndrome (by Proxy), which is a cutting-edge catch-all syndrome, to help women who cannot be adequately protected from punishment by using one of the other 215 syndromes.

“With this newly invented safety syndrome”, says its inventor Beverley Simpleton (known in academia affectionately, as BS), “It is hoped that no woman who is unfortunate enough to have killed her children, might suffer the indignity of being punished for it.”

A parliamentary committee erupted into laughter at the idea that men’s psychology should be investigated to find out if men might have equivalent syndromes to explain their murders of children or spouses, saying that it was: “a sickening attempt to subvert justice by hiding behind faux psychology.”

“It is misogynistic attitudes like that”, added one MP, “that are holding women back and preventing real equality.”

The Rape Allegation Act

The burden of proof in rape cases has been officially moved onto the accused man in rape cases and now, any women who claims to have suffered rape, has only to identify the rapist to secure prosecution.

Investigations to establish prima facie guilt are no longer required and nor is any forensic evidence. Following the lead of Swedish law on being charged with rape, it is now wholly up to the man to prove he did not commit the crime.

Women’s groups heralded this decision as a victory for common sense, citing the well established fact that a woman “would never lie about rape” and that this saved the tax payer money at a time when we can ill afford to spend it “defending men from crimes they undoubtedly must have committed”.

Men who find themselves unable to prove that a rape did not occur, will now receive a mandatory 20 year prison term without need for an expensive trial. A win-win for the national economy and women’s rights.

When asked, men said that this “didn’t seem right, somehow”, but then again, “it wouldn’t happen” to them and there were more important things in life, such as “the ruby finals and breasts.”

The Sexual Harassment Protection Act

Sexual harassment law received a boost today when a tribunal ruled that a woman could be sexually harassed by an unborn baby boy.

The woman, who remains nameless for legal reasons, claimed that she felt and somehow just knew that the unborn baby boy, in only his second trimester, was: “looking at me through his mothers belly and seemed to be undressing me with his eyes”.

The distraught complainant has received undisclosed damages, and the unborn boy has been pre-expelled from school and placed on the national sex offenders registry.

In another case, a woman has won 5 million dollars from McCrapalds restaurants by claiming that she was sexually harassed by a customer more than six years ago, when he ordered a burger and said: “Hey, you have really nice eyes”.

The unnamed victim has been under medical supervision ever since the traumatic incident and cannot sleep due to having recurrent nightmares.
McCrapalds has stated that they would be taking all necessary steps to save women from compliments and all unwanted attention from men by building special screens in all restaurants, so that no one could see anyone else and also installing audio equipment that would automatically screen out all words that did not involve ordering burgers, nuggets or fries.

Male customers will have to email their orders from the front of the store and robot arms will hand the food to them through hatches to avoid any possibility of female workers experiencing unwanted physical contact with male customers.

Female customers, however, would enter through a different restaurant entrance and order direct with staff as usual.

Women’s groups claimed that this was an important victory for the rights of women in the workplace, who should be able to work “without fear of being spoken to or looked at by men in any way at all.”

Men’s groups, headed by contributors at the Boobzilla Mangina Project agreed that the rights of women should be paramount no matter what small inconveniences befell men.

“To disagree with such an arrangement might cast the men’s movement in a bad light”, opined the folks at Reddit. “We are not here to upset women or stand in the way of women’s rights no matter what they demand. We stand in support of men’s rights as long as they come behind women’s, children’s, animals and plants rights. We know our place.”

Women’s groups seemed quite surprised at this and only added: “They took the words right out of our mouths.”

The Women’s Health Act

The government today agreed that health spending for women, currently eight times that of men, and up to 100 times that of men in some areas, was not sufficiently addressing the health needs of women.

The Minister for Women and Girls stated that: “it is the priority of any modern society to invest in the well-being of women. It is abominable that women are not receiving adequate funding towards this aim, while men continue to receive funds that could be better spent on women.” To this end, the government announced today, that all spending on male health will cease with immediate effect, with all funding re-allocated to female health.

Spending on female health would receive a further boost with the diversion of funding currently used to reduce workplace deaths, suicides and homelessness. Women’s groups celebrated this, stating that: “as women are barely affected by these other issues, it is only right that the money should instead go into female health where it would save women’s lives.”

The Pension Reform Act

Women sure have it rough.

Women’ groups were delighted today as the government reversed their decision to bring women’s retirement age into line with the age for men: “This shows that government is finally listening to the needs of women who suffer discrimination at every turn.”
Instead of equalizing the retirement age at 67 for both sexes, men, who have worked until 65 years of age, will now be required to work until age 75 to make up the shortfall in taxation for funding women’s health, whilst women stay at their current retirement age of 60. With men’s life expectancy currently being 76 years, women’s groups were quick to point out that men retiring at age 75 still afforded the average man “the luxury of a full year of retirement to enjoy with their families.

What more could a man want?”

A spokeswoman for women’s advocate group ‘Women have it Rough: Always Have and Always Will’ said: “Whilst it’s true that men have for the last 70 years, worked until age 65 whilst women have retired at age 60; and whilst it’s true that disproportionate spending on women’s health means that women live longer and therefore have a long retirement, whereas men die soon after retirement; and whilst it’s also true that it is mainly men who contribute the bulk of money to pay for retirement benefits that only women live to enjoy, the fact remains that women should be getting a better deal.”

The women’s group ‘Women, Women and Only Women’ added:“The fact that women are female must be of overriding significance to any civilized society. Women deserve more.”

Men’s groups said that they would much prefer that men didn’t have to work right up to the average age of male death in order to fund women’s retirement. However, they accepted that it’s a man’s duty to do whatever he can for women, particularly because “women have it so bad in our society.”

In a rare show of solidarity with men, women’s groups fully agreed.

I’ll keep you posted on further developments.

  • Bewildered

    ROFLMAO! For a moment you had me confused !

    But sadly the message won’t reach the people to whom this is addressed.
    We need more direct methods to FTSU

    • JinnBottle

      Me too. I couldn’t tell if the 1st paragraph was real news or not.

      I am chagrinned to find it is.

      Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant Mr O’Brian.

      • JinnBottle

        Emendment: Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, *ManWomanMyth*.

    • http://counterfem.blogspot.com Fidelbogen

      I hope it does reach the people at Reddit. And I think it will.

    • http://gloriusbastard.com/ JJ


      I just got asked why my face was red before I realized it was all in jest. I was frantically looking for links! RLMFAO!

      Thanks for the SOB!

  • ComradePrescott

    “Murder will carry a maximum sentence of 3 years service, which might consist of working most weekends at shelters for battered women or similar severe punishment. She will also be required to write an essay, explaining why what she did was wrong.”

    Shouldn’t that say she will be required to write an essay explaining how it was the fault of a man and/or syndrome?

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      How dare you put that kind of burden on her?!! She can write whatever she wants!

      • Loy Finly

        Mr Pelam.

        Well well well. It looks like the gig is up and the sun is setting on your dishevelled haystack at long last.

        The chickens are roosting, the boomerang is spinning its way back to you and a close shave you won’t be getting this time Mr Pelam.

        The law has finally speaking in the mother tongue of all mothers and she is angry. She is angry at the soggy and lack-lustre performance of males and is wielding her feminine stick at you and this odorous website.

        You see yourself as a “revolter” and we agree you are revolting. You see yourself as “pissed off good” and we agree that you should piss-off and for good.

        When oh when will you learn that males are but tiny airborne motes of ineffectual dust and nonsense compared to women? All women thank you very much indeed sir.

        You disgust me.

        Loy Finly.
        Sr. Wrongarian.
        World Chapter to Whit

        • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

          “All women thank you very much indeed sir.”

          Well, I have that effect on women. What can I say?

        • http://gloriusbastard.com/ JJ

          We here at the Patriarchy Enthusiasts of National Institutionalization Society of Estrogen Shamers

          Here we were, minding our own business, designing new ever more uncomfortable bras, SUVs with all manly interiors to piss off house-women, and increasing our share of sexy secretaries printers replete with comfortable seat features on the scanner covers; and you all do this?

          HOW DARE YOU; I say wrongarians, THIS MEANS WAR!

        • http://none universe

          Mr. Finely, sir, you have lept over the pasture fence and galloped your way to the nearest computer to read of the exploits of your arch nemesis.

          Strange, it is, Mr. Findley. I find it an odd mixture of comfort and dread in learning of your escape from the field that once penned yet saved you from being reincarnated as flooring adhesive. Your return produces yet another gastric disturbance but is welcomed as it serves as a reminder to facilitate a sharpening of penmanship of the most persnickety acidic variety.

          A departing note Mr. Lindley. I once prescribed carrots for the strengthening of vision, and I do suggest the ingesting of a few more bags, but I also recommend that you cut out the ample consumption of hay as the amount of horse-doo emanating from your tail pipe has reached nearly unpalatable levels.

          Finally, Mr. Spindley, I up-voted your most recent on-line braying. This to encourage more. My pen needs a good sharpening and nothing takes the place of honing material than that old strip of hide from one of your dearly departed cousins who didn’t escape from where you madly trotted away from.

          We’re keeping an eye on you Finily. You will be broken and saddled again. This time you will be allocated to the nearest petting zoo to not only suffer endless tail pullings from ill disciplined children but also their parents weilding flash cameras.

        • MANvsHATE

          @Loy Finley, even though I know you’re a troll account, the humour is “almost” lost on me because you have far too accurately reflected the “intellect” of “Free Thought Blogs” -et al. I value the ignorance you espouse because it sure as hell lit a fire under my arse!!!

      • ComradePrescott

        Of course, what was I thinking? Besides, the courts can just provide her with a pre-written feminist approved essay blaming all men everywhere for her actions.

  • http://manamongoaks.com/index.html Ray

    What, all that and no “Women’s Preferential Pay Act,” where all women (no matter seniority of any other factor) get to earn pay equivalent to dirty and dangerous male dominated jobs, if they choose to show up for work, and if they choose to do any work? You Patriarchal oppressors you, women have so much left to fight for, because the system is just so biased against women. (rolls eyes – sarcasm off).

    Excellent article, pointing out the unreasonableness of feminist demands.

  • Laddition

    I’m sorry but this article didn’t amuse me.

    I prefer my humour to be less like reality. All the things written here…I don’t think that they are all that far fetched. We’ve already had research calling for women’s prisons to be closed in the UK (just an example. one which I’m sure that you know of already).

    • http://makeshiftalpha.com/ makeshift

      I agree with Laddition. This undermines the legitimacy of the site in my opinion. I started reading this thinking it was real and it took me a while to figure it out.

      I think this actively hurt the cause. If it a joke be more obvious, this is crying wolf. When this stuff does happen your going to have trouble convincing us, we will just be looking for the punch line.

      If this is a serious site don’t publish article on the homepage entitled “Urgent news! Political update!” like this.

      This is just quote mining field day for the opposition.

      • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

        I could be wrong, but I didn’t think Laddition took it as far as you did,

        Actually hurt the cause? Pshah. That borders on histrionic. There is countless more threats to the cause all around us than this article, including too many people that can’t prioritize.

        There is going to be satire on this site. Sometimes dark satire. I don’t give a fuck about quote mining and I can’t imagine anyone familiar with this site could think I ever have cared about it.

        All I can say to anyone with such intense urgency about a relatively minor matter is find something to do to help the cause you are over worrying about.

        • http://makeshiftalpha.com/ makeshift

          Okay Paul, I was a little extreme there and it’s a clearly very good article. But I think the main point still stands, maybe I’m just gullible and not accustomed to some of the terminology.

          If this site is to be considered the hub for the MHRM and newbies are having trouble determining ‘urgent news’ from satire, it may function turn some people away.

          Okay I’ll consider my knuckles rapped. I’ll keep quiet from now on.

        • Laddition

          I recognised the humour, I don’t see it as harmful to the cause (you are right Paul).

          It just didn’t tickle my funny bone because I think that there are going to be fembots actively seeking to make any, or all of these points true.

          Humour can come from exageration, I just don’t see the exageration here…and that just proves what a sick society we live in.

          (great to see AVFM moving on up – no sarcasm here – I like the way that things are progressing)

    • Stephen O’Brian

      The article wasn’t strictly designed to amuse, although if it does in the rueful “yep, true words said in jest” sense then I’m fine with that.
      It was more a sarcastic swipe at gynocentrism and it’s consort at arms misandry.

  • http://www.deanesmay.com Dean Esmay

    Round of applause for the brave politicians taking a stand and doing what’s right for women no matter what the cost!

    • Laddition

      ‘no matter what the cost to men

      there you go FTFY (no charge brother)

  • onca747

    ROFL! The scary part is, some of it was actually plausible.

  • James Huff

    Slam! And this goes to show the how meek a few of these “men’s groups” really are. One of the reasons I like AVFM is because there is plenty of “I don’t give a fuck, I’m going to say it how it is” truth around here.

    • Loy Finly

      Mr Jame Shuff.

      Please do not talk with curse words while I am in the presence of a lady friend. Right at this very moment she is looking over my shoulder and is rather offended sir.

      You disgust me also.

      Loy Finly.
      Sr. Wrongarian.
      World Chapter to Whit

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      Exactamundo! That is why I added the sammich mine seal to this one.

      • http://gloriusbastard.com/ JJ

        You know PE, the cartoon on the Sr. Wrongarian looks a lot like a cartoon you with ear rings, and clown make up sans the goatee?

        Hmmmmmmmmm, double agent or just coincidence?

  • malcolm

    I wish I could confidently say that this is satirical, but a lot of that article hits pretty close to home.

  • ssj4kevin

    Wow, I was so angry at first…

  • Stu

    Before anybody laughs, consider this. If a satire article of this sort had been written about thirty years ago, it would probably contain references to laws…..as a joke….that actually exist now. In fact, I’m sure I remember such pieces of satire.

    I clearly remember telling people, including my mother, that if feminism goes on, there will be no end to what they demand. I also predicted many of the draconian laws we have now, and got laughed at, and ridiculed. Just a short while ago, I told my mother about the proposals in “The Plan”. She scoffed at the idea that any of these draconian proposals could be enacted. A few months later they were.

    Boiling the frog in water. Inch by inch we edge towards the final solution. And nobody can see further into the future than their nose.

    All of this satire could come true, and will, if feminism is not stopped. They wont stop. Anybody that thinks they will just reach and point and say, hey, we have enough, lets do something else now, is kidding themselves.

    This satire may sound ludicrous right now, but that’s because you’re thinking of it as one giant jump for now, to then. If they just inch away, nobody seems to notice. A child growing up in a culture where all boys are circumcised just thinks that is normal. And a boy growing up in a culture where all boys are castrated just thinks that is normal.

    • JinnBottle

      Stu: I can recall, at the proposal of the ERA in – what was it, 80? 81? – one of the arguments of its critics was that men and women would have common bathrooms. These people were mocked as fringe, and that particular objection was laughed at in the mode of, “Oh come ON, like that’s what this amendment is proposing!”

      Less than a decade later, women were walking into men’s rooms (but of course not the other way around), and the media presented it as debatable.

      Have to differ with you only on your analogy with the Boiling Frog: It started out that way (or as the Communists put it, “Two steps forward, one step back”); but I have watched it *accelerate* ever since, until now people – not just men, not just MRAs, but any normal person, in just about any culture – wake up to radfem culture shock, literally unbelievable shit – almost every day.

      Your Comment was clear, clean thinking and emotionally honest, as is usual with you. When are you going to submit a Post?

  • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

    This is brilliant satire, but also a little chilling as I could actually see some of these initiatives happening.

  • Never Blue Again

    DNA Contributor groups did not offer a comment as they were too busy designing a logo for their new name: ‘DNA Contributors 4 Justice’.

    WOW ……… !! This is Hilarious . It’s Fucking Brilliant.

  • napocapo69

    Where’s the satire?

    • TigerMan

      Very droll of you napocapo! lol :)


    A good spin on what is REALITY approaching.
    Of course, unless good people like Mr. O’Brain don’t stand up to the insanity in new and novel ways. Truth is, SADLY, that our sons must NOT marry, nor reproduce in a relationship with any woman; and for 2 generations hence. It’s our uninformed ‘consent’ in mating that has caused much of the abuse of men, one at a time, standing mostly alone, culled from the herd of humanity, insanely treated very badly, ‘legally’, left stunned. So, MGTOW must be taught to every pre-adolescent boy. Male birth-control a top priority. (I’m serious.) Sex-bots or legal, safe prostitution a priority for nature. Adoption by single-men, a priority for those many in valuing children IN their life. Surrogacy of their natural children, for single men, a standard protocol- a priority. Supports by men, for men, and the like-minded women we love, NGO. NO MAN LEFT BEHIND, that deals with divorce-from-hell, child abduction by State, homelessness, despair, and losses incomprehensible to our Grandfathers. THIS MRA, MHRA movement has to be a safety net… for the current generation, and those harmed by gender feminism, and the elitist males that promote that, insulated by power, money and control of US ALL… (I feel better now, LOL.)

  • rickster

    More satire I love it. Its fun to laugh occasionally when discussing serious topics, and this is a refreshing change of venue from the usual laugh I get when reading/listening to feminist logic (if I’m not banging my head at the absurdity of it).

    I swear though I’ve heard some of those comments before in the article from feminists, which doesn’t surprise me. I also know this article may have hit home with some people, but lets not forget that though we jest occasionally at how things are, it does not take away from the efforts of many people who are fighting for change in order to avoid such a disparaging future outcome of human rights.


    I support free speech as much as the next guy, but I still think that it is bad policy to publish any article that carelessly makes reference to historical events without proper consideration of the time period that the article is to be published in. Leakage of information from the future might run the risk of creating a paradox, and it may possibly tear a rift in the very fabric of the space-time continuum (i don’t know I’m no expert, but that’s what the experts are saying). Future speech is even more dangerous than hate speech. Obviously nothing bad happened this time, but in the future please be more careful!

    • Stephen O’Brian

      Thank you for the warning.
      I’ll be extra careful to look out for Precrime squad agents coming to haul me off for reprogramming.

      • TigerMan

        Stephen – some of us would like to know why you are apparently taking credit for writing this article when manwomanmyth points out it appears to be lifted word for word from his site?

        • Stephen O’Brian

          See my reply to manwomanmyth on this thread.

  • TheSandreGuy

    Today this is just satire.
    Tomorrow it could be reality.
    Pretty damn good job sir!

  • Nightwing1029

    It took me a while to figure this one out.
    Because I wouldn’t be surprised if that actually happened.
    Nice satire, but still a little too close to reality, for my tastes.

  • http://www.manwomanmyth.com/ manwomanmyth

    Whilst it’s great to have an article of mine posted here and whilst I’m not a patent-troll or anything like that, I am a little saddened that my work has been lifted word-for-word without any acknowledgment.

    I want worthwhile stuff to spread as much as anybody, but it’s basic good manners to recognize the source:


    That said, I’ll say again that I’m happy for it to be reproduced here.

    • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

      Let me correct my previous comment:

      This is brilliant manwomanmyth.

      Not citing a source or copying an article in its entirety without citing the original author just isn’t bad form, it’s plagiarism.

    • TigerMan

      Whoa – so I assume you are not Steven O’Brian as he has already responded seperatley in this thread and made no mention still that it was from your site.
      I for one would like to hear what Steven has to say for himself because like Dr Tara said this sounds like out and out plagiarism to me.
      By the way manwomanmyth I am very impressed by your work – your videos are amongst the very finest on mens rights that I have seen.

    • TigerMan

      In my opinion that is not good enough – the article clearly states it was written by you when you knew it was not.
      This is not a matter of hindsight but of basic ethics and decency – I am disgusted.

    • TheSandreGuy

      If you weren’t sure of the source, couldn’t you just have with-hold from posting it until you found the source?

      I won’t believe you’re that much of a dunce.

      • Phil Davies

        This (to me) was a very deliberate action on Stephen O’Brian’s part.
        It took me all of 0.52 seconds to find the source of this article, simply by using Google to search the term “The Presumption of Future Divorce Act” where manwomanmyth’s article takes pride of place as the first result on page one.

        Shocking behaviour.

    • http://www.manwomanmyth.com/ manwomanmyth

      I’ll say three things to you about this and intend to leave it there.

      1) In the scheme of things, although your method here obviously sucks, you’re still one of the good guys for promoting material that I think is of benefit to men.

      2) However, I’ve looked at this again, including your responses to some of the comments. From those, it’s clear to me that you did choose to take credit for this article and I don’t see any indication that you intended to acknowledge that it was not your own work. Not good.

      3) Does it actually matter? Well, I’m a very principled person and so I’ll admit that the outright plagiarism and your hollow explanation/apology is annoying to me. I’ll be frank and call it what I think it is: dishonest. You said you couldn’t find my original article, yet a simple Google for any of the titles of the Acts would have brought it up as the first result. You made no suggestion whatsoever that this wasn’t your own work.

      That said, the answer at the end of the day is probably ‘no’, it doesn’t really matter.

      Thank you Tara and TigerMan for your kind words and support.

      • http://www.shrink4men.com/ Dr. Tara J. Palmatier

        You’re welcome, MWM. I very much admire your work.

    • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

      Please accept my sincere apology for this sad event, and my assurances that I knew nothing of the previous publishing of this article.

      This is not a mistake or an oversight, nor is it the result of giddy exuberance. It is plagiarism, pure and simple.

      I have changed the attribution of the piece accordingly, but also wait your instructions on whether it should remain on the site at all.

      Tremendously embarrassing here. Two thousand published articles on this site and never has this happened before. I assure you, MWM, that it will not happen again with this individual as he will never publish anything on this site again.

      Please let me know what to do, and again, my apologies for the fact that the transgression occurred on this website.


      • http://www.manwomanmyth.com/ manwomanmyth

        Thanks, Paul.

        After my first response, I looked at this again, including his responses to some of the comments from others. From those, it’s clear to me (and to you it seems) that he did choose to take credit for this article and I don’t see any indication that he intended to acknowledge that it was not his own work. Plainly dishonest.

        By all means keep the article up, I know that this snafu was unintentional on AVfM’s part.

        Thanks to you, Tara and TigerMan for the kind words and support.

        • http://www.avoiceformen.com Dr. F (Ian Williams)


          You handled this with class, level headedness and grace. A lesser spirited person would not be so generous.

          Apart from that, I have to tell you that I am really impressed with this piece. Your remarkable talent expressing your thoughts seem to have made their way from your pen as well as your words spoken on video.

          On the topic of your videos, I want you to know that it was those that flushed any blue residue from my system. I remember the two days sifting through them as being a life changing event for me. It was that event that made me find this site.

          This makes you by definition, having been a very important person in my life. Quite frankly I am forever in your debt. Thank you.

          I’ve wanted you to know that for three years now and right now seems appropriate.

          Ian. W

          • http://www.manwomanmyth.com/ manwomanmyth

            What a great comment. I really appreciate feedback like this and I’m very glad to have contributed to your understanding of these things. Thank you very much.

      • TigerMan

        Bravo Paul for quickly nipping this in the bud – I for one didn’t think for one moment you would have approved this article being wrongly attributed had you known of it. :)

  • rexxthunder

    This is awesome!

    I think this writer should make a fake radical feminist web site and see how many crazies that can be lured to the site. I bet they would eat this crap up!

  • OneHundredPercentCotton

    If I may add:

    DNA collection of all males at birth Act.

    Yearly Penile Plethysmography testing (“peter meter”) and polygraph testing of all males to ferret out perverts, rapists,molesters and thought criminals.

    It’s already been done to Canadian teenaged boys

    Excerpt: Canada has had a long, hard fixation with catching people getting aroused over things Canadian “experts” consider mental illnesses. One program in the mid-20th century, nicknamed the “fruit machine,” led to over 9,000 Canadian citizens being investigated as suspected homosexuals, with some even being tested and drummed out of government jobs.

    In the wake of the fruit machine program, the fine folks at Toronto’s Centre for Addiction and Mental Health developed and still promote penile plethysmography (PPG). The device, nicknamed a peter meter, is supposedly a lie detector for male genitalia. It’s not admissible in court cases as evidence for the same reason as a polygraph: the data can be manipulated by both subject and tester, and there’s little standardization in equipment or stimuli.

    Because the whole concept is based on the premise that the subject is a “non-admitter” who needs to be caught, sometimes they jam another sensor up the subject’s butt to ensure he is not clenching his sphincter to alter the blood flow into his penis. Males in general and teenage boys in particular can get spontaneous erections for any number of reasons that may or may not be related to the stimulus presented. They might even chub up just because of the test itself (the stress, touching, humiliation, etc.).

  • TigerMan

    Jeez such was my shock I almost raised an eyebrow before I realised it was satire!!
    Still given the atrocities to reason and fairness that feminists and their pandering enablers have already inflicted on us I’m sure many of those items are already on feminist wish lists. The recent article by Lucien re new “equality” and so called anti-pornography measures are an indication that without effective pushback there is no limits to their attempts to curb our freedoms.

  • Kimski

    So, nothing new..?

  • A. Anthony Villareal

    Good work manwomanmyth and Stephen!

  • Stephen O’Brian

    Sorry for the inconvenience.
    It was not my intention to claim authorship of this article – please see my apologetic response to manwomanmyth on this thread.
    Is there any way to alter the masthead of this article to reflect the fact that the bulk of it apart from a few minor tweaks came from manwomanmyth who says he is glad of it’s exposure here at AVFM?

    • TigerMan

      When you submitted the article did you make it clear that is was not written by you? If you did do this then a site editor made an error and perhaps understandable if they were working under pressure etc.
      Perhaps the editor involved should comment and clear this up once and for all.
      Just my 2 cents and by the way if you did make it clear this wasn’t written by you please accept my apologies in advance for my prior criticism.

      • Stephen O’Brian

        No Tigerman,
        You are totally right to take me to task. In my admitted tiredness and impulsiveness to spread what I thought was brilliant satire at the time I took the writing which I had lost the link for having made a few minor tweaks and posted it. I didn’t make it clear to the staff at AVFM who should in no way be held responsible for my mistake. Hence my apology to manwomanmyth and request to AVFM to change the masthead to accurately reflect the authorship.
        Lesson learned – don’t post to AVFM so late at night and make sure to acknowledge sources.

        • TigerMan

          Thanks for coming clean. I sincerely hope you will pick yourself up from this and with lessons learned carry on the good work although understandably it may now not be at AVFM.

  • http://none universe

    That photo. EEK.
    Was looking rather sternly at that green…what is that thing… being held by that stern matronish soulless looking menace. Wait,…I don’t want to know.

    Dat headline wuz shore misleedn’ tho. Wuz hopin’ for sum reference to doze bad-ass Em Are Ehz stirring up panties everywhere. But no, we gets a dose of da humourz.

    Ah well.
    Sure beats the Vapours.
    Thanks for the fun, mate.

    (Just you be on the look-out for lit matches under your shoes :) ).



    • http://www.manwomanmyth.com/ manwomanmyth

      Agreed, that would have been sharper.

      • August Løvenskiolds

        Despite the recent unpleasantness, AVfM has some talented wordsmiths and researchers here. And you, ManWomanMyth, are well respected for your own talents. A closer association in whatever form, it seems to me, would enrich us all.

  • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

    It makes me sad, but I have been left with no choice but to ban Stephen O’Brian from this website and to go in and remove his previous articles now that I have know way of trusting their authenticity.

    I do not know what he was thinking, or why, but I honestly cannot afford to be concerned with that.

    As a writer that has dedicated thousands of hours trying to develop competence and effectiveness, pouring my heart and soul into the work, taking the sometimes brutal critique and certainly the credit as well as the sticks and stones that come with putting my own name to my own ideas, I am tremendously offended by the idea that someone would take the product of all that sacrifice and put their name to it.

    Plagiarism is the worst affront to a writer there is, at least for me. And it forever destroys the possibility to trust the person doing it.

    I am awaiting manwomanmyth’s word on whether I am to remove this article. Whatever he decides, I hope he will allow it to remain up long enough for people to see that it was his work, and that the apologies due him are humbly presented.

    • August Løvenskiolds

      Hang in there, Paul. This site is life-saving and life-changing and a force for good.

      Gratitude to manwomanmyth for his grace, understanding, and deeply insightful work.

    • Never Blue Again

      It is very sad. But it is the right thing to do. And that will be the strength of MHRM. To do the right thing no matter what.

      And MWM …. You are Awesome …. !! Seriously…!

    • Stephen O’Brian

      It’s been a week since your publicly saying :
      “I have been left with no choice but to ban Stephen O’Brian from this website and to go in and remove his previous articles now that I have know way of trusting their authenticity.”
      A BS claim, not even followed up with action to show integrity.
      First off it’s simple to check those previous articles.
      No need for overwrought chest thumping hostility about that.
      Secondly, it would take a short time to pull down those articles (which incidentally alongside over 1900 comments of mine helped to grow your readership).
      Lastly, seeing your heavy handed lifetime ban (a shorter ban would have been appropriate) has forced me to rethink AVFM. Having done so and dug a little deeper I now see other troubling trends at AVFM which mean I welcome the ban and equally would welcome my previous articles being removed. That way there’ll be a win – win.
      You’ll appear to be a man of some integrity and not a belicose reactionary, and I’ll have distance from AVFM.
      Oh and BTW – the humble apology you’re asking for – was given a week ago. Reread the thread. It’s there in black and white. Sheesh.

      • https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Voice-for-Men/102001393188684 Paul Elam

        Rethink all you want. And go fuck yourself when you are done. You’re a fucking thief, and a liar. And you demonstrated that in full public view.

        There is nothing left to say to you.

  • Robert St. Estephe

    Why did Congress even have to be consulted on this? That is so reactionary. This should be implemented by Presidential decree.

    We are in the post-Constitution era now. We need to stop all that silly ill-humored public debate and allow our glorious GREAT LEADER to lead us into the Garden of Eden (known to reactionaries as “Brave New World+1984″).

    • tallwheel

      It will be even more common when the president is a woman. They will say the male-dominated congress is doing everything to stop her legislation, and silencing her female voice. Why, allowing the female commander-in-chief to bypass congress would be the only fair thing to do if we want to give women equal say in deciding policy.

  • Poester99

    Aren’t most of these unwritten but de facto truth?

    • Booyah

      Yeah that was my take on it too. It’s satire but only a very mild extrapolation on legislation afoot somewhere in the world either in effect or under proposal.

      Great article ManWomanMyth. Hope it jars some men out of their slumber. It would appear that men play the part of sleeping beauty when the the evil witch is feminism. =/

  • Legion

    Surely there’s enough real shit that we don’t need to go about making it up..

  • Free Human Being

    Probably the best article I’ve read on here period!

    Do it with humor and I think it has such effect.

    Seriously, excellent.

  • Mr.Zeph

    MWM owes me a new set of DeepEnds adult diapers.

    • TigerMan

      TMFI lol

  • Mr. J

    “mens groups couldn’t be reached for comment as it was a big rugby(football) weekend………….LOLOL, for real. no shit….LOLOL….”

  • Justice

    All of what is written will happen, unless men start to get active. No social movement in history has had success without radical actions taken.