Five days ago in Minneapolis, Minnesota a 20 year old woman, Krista Jane Heflin, took her own life with a gunshot. It appears, though we do not have 100% confirmation, that this is the same person who went by the name Femitheist Divine on a blog and on a Youtube Channel; a hateful and clearly disturbed individual, who, like scores of other similar persons, found refuge in radical feminism.
The events preceding her death were marked by a significant amount of public conflict with MRAs. She came under accurate and well-deserved fire for making posts that advocated murder, supported gendercide, eugenics and other forms of virulent misandry; the trademarks of both radical feminism and psychopathology; two barely discernible things.
Much will be made of that conflict. In fact, I assume we can all start the countdown till the first feminist or sycophant blog post comes out blaming the MRM, especially this site and its readers, for her self-destruction. Rather than try to understand her demise, and prevent more like it, they will simply exploit the suicide in a sick game of futrelian one-upmanship. They will pile on her corpse and pick her bones clean like vultures in order to enable the same kind of hate she expressed on her blog and in her videos, and to blame the people that would stop that hate peddling if they could.
One has to wonder why society does not see a man or woman who holds such hateful views and wishes for the extermination of half the world’s population as a potential threat to themselves and others. How is it that views like hers, when wrapped up in feminism, are somehow not seen for what they are, the ranting of a lunatic who should have a proper psychiatric evaluation, not a YouTube channel and blog?
There are few certainties that will ever emerge from this story, other than the fact that a misdirected, mentally ill kid wound up on a slab in the morgue. Another is that a two year old girl is now without a mother. We can only hope that the child winds up with better, more stable parenting than she would have ever gotten from Femitheist Divine. I won’t even bother asking, or trying to deduce, where the father is in this picture.
I have three hopes in this screwed up mess of human tragedy. One is that we always remember that Krista Jane Heflin is dead because of Krista Jane Heflin. She chose to die as surely as she chose to hate and call for the deaths of others. Feminists are gearing up now to crow otherwise. Let them crow and attack their words head on with everything you have.
Also, MRAs need to remember what happened when one of our brothers became despondent and made plans to end his life recently. We pulled together to help him, even as we witnessed feminists celebrating his despondency and trying to goad him into taking his life. For pity’s sake, people, let’s leave them as the sole inhabitants of that low ground. They are much more at home there than we are.
The last thing is that we mustn’t fail to see the similarities between Femitheist Divine and the women who inhabit dens of violent insanity like Radfem Hub.
When we try to understand the depravity of people who would murder half the human race, who would seek to engineer us like strains of corn to fit their Utopian ideals, who would throw young boys through windows to their deaths and selectively abort on the basis of sex, we can get a clear picture of who they are through Feminist Divine’s articulate and concise self-diagnosis as a borderline personality disorder.
I don’t know if anyone could have helped this young woman. She was devastatingly sick and possibly beyond reaching. But the real problem is that this type of person does not always limit their violence to the self-inflicted variety. Heflin threatened to harm her child before taking her own life. If she had, it would not have been the first time something like that happened. These individuals are dangerous by their very nature.
That is why it is so important that we continue to confront virulent misandry and to educate the public about personality disorders and how to deal with them.
We probably don’t write about it near as much as we should, but there is a clear link between BPD/NPD and phenomena like Radfem Hub. Indeed those traits are a familiar theme throughout “mainstream” feminist establishment.
I am not blaming the death of this woman on feminism. I will leave that sort of disingenuousness to the likes of Tory Shepherd. But what I will say without reservation is that the closer you look at modern feminist ideology and personality disorders the more you see they are woven together in a fabric of human pathology. Tory Shepherd is just another Krista Jane Heflin with a stronger will to survive, and more ability to harm others in the name of a virulent cause.
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Very well said. Will comment more later.
I’m piggybacking Dr.Palmatier’s original post here to get this info to the top of the string. I posted it below earlier this morning but it’s down at the bottom. Given the content I’m thinking folks will want to know about it, particularly concerning the county coroners.
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I want to preface this by saying that I didn’t read any of this chick’s missives prior to Paul’s original post. Other than my obvious MRA leanings I don’t have a horse in this race. That said and full credit to several prior posters that called out this story as BS I did some legwork yesterday and today as follows:
I personally spoke to the medical examiner offices in the following Minnesota counties; Hennepin (Minneapolis), Ramsey (Saint Paul), Dakota (Hastings) & Anoka (Anoka). I gave them the name and date of death info from Heflin’s obit on departedandgone.com. None of them had a record of this death. The Hennepin County folks also indicated that based upon the reported date of death if it was a gunshot suicide it would have been reported by now and would be prioritized from a autopsy standpoint and would have been in their database. Two of these counties also checked the State of Minnesota database and found no record.
I then called the First Covenant Church in Minneapolis which the obit called out Heflin as being a member of. Spoke to a very nice lady who indicated that if Ms. Heflin had been active in the church and had committed suicide recently then their family support activities would likely have been aware and involved. This woman had never heard of Heflin or her suicide. That said there are plenty of folks (me included) that are recorded members of churches but don’t attend often, aren’t active and are unknown to “church regulars”. This is particularly true in churches like this one which has a large diverse urban congregation. This may or may not mean anything in this review, but it is another important info point.
I also spent some time on Google looking for Heflin and her called out relatives. No reasonable matches. Probably not a big deal as far as proving anything. That said there are plenty of “pay as you go” public info services that query the same databases as the credit bureaus where Heflin’s personal and reported relative info can be objectively and legally sourced. I didn’t spend the money as I think my prior follow-up tells us what we need to know.
Here’s my conclusion and summary:
- Heflin didn’t kill herself. She may have “killed” her blog and her online persona but there is no objective evidence that she is physically no longer alive. If anyone reading my post knows otherwise please respond.
- She obviously has mental problems which you folks have previously called out.
- As many of you know and have previously called out women are really good at threatening suicide, not so good at actually doing it, particularly with a gun and particularly if they have a three year old child. Men on the other hand are really good at not threatening suicide but actually just doing it. Go figure.
There is always a chance that she killed herself in another county or it hasn’t been reported yet, but it is extremely unlikely. This chick is twenty years old. She has no clue that the lies that she has posted on her blog or on this obit site can’t be replicated and are subject to objective fact checking in the real world.
This also highlights the good that the MRM has done. Credit to Paul and his crew. Most everyone took the high road on this deal and it really shows where men are as a group. It also highlights the type of false claims that feminists will pitch when pushed to justify their misandric positions.
Finally, I’ve got no reason to lie about any of this. I’ve got the professional background to confirm my expertise in this area. That said it’s really no one’s business. If anyone wants to replicate the follow-up they should go for it. Until that time as far as I’m concerned Heflin is alive and trying to stroke all of us. I’ll defer to Paul on a final call.
PHX,
I’m impressed at your work here. I came to see if there was any confirmation or otherwise of her death.
I’m convinced you have nailed this good and proper.
Which leaves me with the worry about her poor wee girl, who will have a ramped up triumphant CB mother…worse than ever.
Great work, I’m really impressed with the effort you put in here. Kudos.
If she has faked her own death then I’m appalled… but not totally surprised – it was a feminist after all, a creature known to lie frequently.
I heard of this person, but I never paid attention to them.
May she R.I.P.
The first time I saw Femitheist, I thought this was a psychologically disturbed individual who needed help–or a fraud/troll/joke. The more time went on, especially after she released a video or two with her real voice on it, I was convinced she was mentally ill and desperately in need of help. I believed she was likely a danger to herself and others. Well that came true; thank God it was only herself and not her poor little girl or some other person.
I have read comments from a few people who seem pleased that she did this. I’m not. I’ve read comments from a few others who regret giving her grief for her hateful, demented words, and who feel bad about themselves for giving her grief. They should not do that either; although I do think this points to the problem of matching hate with hate, one thing I noticed time after time is that after she apologized many people she apologized to reached out and offered to talk to her and even befriend her. Not only do I know people who did this personally, but, we have this clear record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhqxKpgMndw&feature=related
That was the day before she suicided, and a man who had both been critical of her and also accepted her apologies and reached out to her. After it was found out what happened, we had this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctKkMU6Zwmo
Then of course there’s this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B67DbO0p0uM&lcor=1&lc=NDGIRhZ-hPE6V3MP55Aow1cNhkT-c6AM0Y7HyZMxd3s&lch=email_reply&feature=em-comment_reply_received
Let no one out there try to claim that there’s a bunch of jumping up and down and cheering that this happened. People cared about this person, even though she angered them. Don’t let the lie be spread that a bunch of MRAs are dancing on her grave.
This was a sick individual, and if she’d wanted help she could have gotten it. Even the very people who she did the most to offend and insult recognized that something was wrong and tried to help her.
Suicide is overwhelmingly a male problem in the United States (4:1 versus women) and this is a community that has reached out to help its brothers when they’ve contemplated it–being about the only community that recognizes the high risk men are at for it. But there is no celebrating the death of a 20 year old, male or female. She was sick, and the tragedy most of all is for her child.
Wow. I honestly thought she was just trolling. The stuff she wrote was just so over the top and crazy it was difficult for me to believe that anyone could really think the way she did. I guess hate was all she had to live for. When she gave up on that there must have been no reason for her to go on. I must admit that any suicide, even one of our avowed enemies, makes me sick to think about. If she is dead, then may she rest in peace.
Found this, but not sure if it’s accurate:
http://www.departedngone.com/listing.php?lid=2642
That is not a reliable source. You could post your own “death” there.
Usually newspapers take up to 3 days and as long as a week to post death notices.
So far, not a thing from an actual newspaper. There should be a funeral notice/obituary somewhere.
Proofreading:
For pity sake, people …
Should read: for pity’s sake
Regarding the news above, I was more moved to hear Kadhafi had died. He had a human side to him.
Fixed. Thanks.
I’d sooner mourn Fidel Castro’s death over hers. But I won’t play chess on her carcass or soccer with her head either.
I hope MRAs will not go into chivalrous catharsis over this. A war memorial could be build with fellow men who have ended their own lives because of the feminist hell on Earth. If we could hound all misandric bitches into their graves, I think we should go for it, but this will not come to pass because women committing suicide – instead of just faking it – is rare anyway. We should be careful not to be pushed into an apologetic corner where we don’t belong.
Surely there are better ways for our ideas to prevail than the deaths of those who oppose them!
This.
Anyone who thinks its a good thing that someone has died has issues they should get attended to…
But at the same time, why am I expected to care that a woman like this has died? This is a woman who has professed, both in writing and in videos that she would like to destroy half the human population.
As above, I wont be playing chess on her corpse either… but don’t expect a single fuck to be given, they will not be forthcoming.
About time someone other than myself sounded like a soldier and not some chivalrous namby pamby. You want to “altrustic” be altrustic toward those who deserve it like the families of Wilbur Street and Thomas Ball who were murdered by the matriarchy that this bitch championed. If you mourn over the loss of this feminazi then you spit in the faces of these two murdered men.
Dude, you are no soldier.
Even in light of the revelation that my assumption that this was fake, gloating over a death is not just macabre, it is pretty much indicative of a mental illness.
NO ONE, wants peace more than an actual soldier. A soldier accepts a duty and does it with no joy. The type of person you describe is a thug not a warrior or a soldier. Doing a job well even if it involves death and enjoying meting out death are miles apart.
Do me a favour and never apply to service in any countries armed forced or police departments. You haven’t the parts to not abuse such a job.
Clearly a very messed-up person.
RIP Krista.
Very sad news. It must have been Hell to live in her mind; I hope she’s at peace.
Excellent article Paul.
Its a terrible duty we have to steer mentally ill persons toward recognizing and taking responsibility for their destructiveness. We have a flawed attitude throught our culture which says, “Forgive them for they know not what they do”. We” I think it’s important to “know what you do”, and it was right to try and educate this girl about her destructiveness.
Perhaps if the Radfem hyenas had not succeeded in enflaming her desructiveness she would have met with a different outcome.
R.I.P. to her, and R.I.P. to those still-living that she hurt.
Its a terrible duty we have to steer mentally ill persons toward recognizing and taking responsibility for their destructiveness. We have a flawed attitude throught our culture which says, “Forgive them for they know not what they do. Well, I think it’s important for them to ‘know what they do’, and it was right to try and educate this girl about her destructiveness.
Perhaps if the Radfem hyenas had not succeeded in enflaming her desructiveness she would have met with a different outcome.
R.I.P. to her, and R.I.P. to those still-living that she hurt.
Definitely a messed up woman. Was hatred and thoughts of genocide really all she had to live for? Regardless, there are too many men who end their lives simply because society hates and abandoned them. She had many more options than to take her own life.
I won’t dance on her grave or celebrate a dead person. Suicide is not a good thing. But I’ll be honest and say I won’t miss her. She should have tried to find love for others rather than hate. I give my condolences to her daughter and immediate family members.
Very sad and tragic but this did not happen because of anything said here. She had her demons as anyone could see. I hope her daughter will be placed in good and loving hands.
Yes, cumbria.
If an MRA seems dangerously despondent, feminists egg him on to take action.
If a radical feminist seems dangerously despondent, MRA’s will hunt her location down and call the local authorities to check on her.
Hate whithers the soul from within.
Feminists should simply die old and alone with their cats, not by their own hand.
“Hate whithers the soul from within.”
Yes sir. I’ll let no man drag me down so low as to make me hate him, as someone who would know said. (man or woman, of course)
If you cannot say anything nice….
I think that speaks to my view on the subject
Hi Paul, well written article, but…noone deserve to die, not at the age of 20, not for a blog, not with a young daughter, not before having received at least a bit of love.
No, I’m not in chivalry mood, I’m just in human mood. That’s what I am.
I feel a bit guilty for that.
I didn’t wish she disappeared, I just hoped she stopped with such misandry, fostered by this ugly radical feminism.
Nevertheless I feel guilty.
A young woman, heavly disturbed by an hate ideology, and bad things that happened to her too early. She just missed love in her life and she found hate.
I feel guilty for my imptotence to act, to stop her from spreading hate and impotence to stop her from passing the way, something I really, really feared after her public farewell.
Today I really hope that she’s not that Krista, I really wish this…
But my heart tells me this is the case.
Rest in peace Krista and please forgive me, forgive this ugly society.
I hope you didn’t infer that I think she deserved to die. As to love, I agree, everyone should get it, but you have to allow it to happen. It is hard to do that and call for the extermination of half the human race at the same time.
No I didn’t Paul.
I was just trying to stress the human side of the story.
I completely agree with the article, just it seemed a bit to cynical at least for what is my mood right now, just that.
…also there were few comments that, well were not 100% in line with my view of life
Understood. I have been “comment hawking” since I posted this one. I trust 99% of our readers will find nothing to celebrate here, but there is always one in the crowd (and several, if you in a feminist crowd) that thinks death is a reason to dance. So far, I have only had to remove one comment.
Any way you turn it, this stuff sucks.
That is what it is. The projection of self-hatred onto others. At root the destruction that most of these “radicals” want is their own. They just have so much energy invested into never admitting it.
Whether or not the truth became evident to this woman and she did not have the courage to change, or whether she had no such realization and pressure arose from a belief in social metaphysics we probably will never know. And, I guess I don’t really care to know either, now.
I only know that if the good buckles in the face of evil, out of misplaced sympathy or belief in “virtuous sacrifice” soon there won’t be much left to defend.
I want to live. Those who don’t should spare the rest of us the drama, and come clean. It’s the only way to get better, or not take anyone else with you.
We men who know this kind of real crippling pain have a lot of sympathy for others by default, that is, those of us who feel able to express ourselves emotionally in this shit repressive climate for men. This sympathy does not mean forgiveness or a moral sanction is coming, but it does entail the understanding that knowledge is not automatic and life can be really fucked up sometimes. Chivalry, I will not be giving. Human benevolence, I can, but always in temperance with justice.
Do you feel sad for all the other people that die every day because you didn’t save them? How do you get out of bed in the morning?
It is sad that a life was lost, but get some perspective please.
The above post (which i can’t edit for clarity) was not a shot at napocapo69. This woman did not die because anyone FAILED to save her. This woman died because of a choice she made.
It is not up to me (or anyone else) to save people. This is a consequence of the actions and choices she made. I thought this was one of the main points of the MRM, yet all it takes is one radical feminist to commit suicide, and suddenly we’re all awash with guilt.
Sympathy for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
It is not up to me (or anyone else) to save people. This is a consequence of the actions and choices she made. I thought this was one of the main points of the MRM, yet all it takes is one radical feminist to commit suicide, and suddenly we’re all awash with guilt.
Sympathy for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
Thank you.
This young woman had, quite obviously, egregious mental heath issues – possibly a personality disorder of some description. It has to be said, right off the bat, that any individual, so beleaguered, deserves appropriate help and support. Whether Krista had access to any such services remains to be seen (however, being from the US, I suspect that she did not.)
If, indeed, she did have BPD, one has to ask: did she have a clinical diagnosis to attest to this fact? It is an important question to ask as, if she did, she may have been able to avail herself of dialectical behavioral therapy skills and quite possibly been able to ameliorate her moods and manage her emotions.
Due to the precise motifs within her reasoning, I am convinced that she was a victim; she was victim to a pervasive, misogynous, societal feminist overview – not of the MRM, or any particular MRA.
In my experience, male rights activists are supportive of strong women; indeed, the recent neologism of the Zeta female bespeaks of a person who is freed from the ermine-lined cell of female privilege; a woman who has the psychological wherewithal to deal with life on life’s terms. Krista did not, seemingly, have access to the tools that may have led her out of the torturous predicament of her mental state.
Yes, her ideology was one of hatred. Moreover, it is one that I oppose vehemently. But we must not forget that trenchant adage: ‘hurt people, hurt people.’ Yes, Krista was hurting and that, alone, makes me feel a measure of compassion. See, since becoming an MRA I am finding greater reserves of empathy inside me – not less. In my opinion, we will win this gender war by precisely by taking this higher ground. The feminists are welcome to their malign invective.
The death of this young woman is a tragedy. My condolences go out to her loved ones. Moreover, I sincerely hope that her daughter grows up to be an emotionally resilient member of the complimentary sex.
RIP Krista.
I look at the dying feminazi castration camp guard withering in pain on the ground. Begging for forgiveness almost crying. Did she shed a tear for our brothers that she destroyed? No,in fact she laughed. Did she have any compassion for the brothers she murdered? None whatsoever. I bend down to get a closer look at her face and then spit in it. After that I see her coughing up blood signifying her death.
May the devil have her feminazi soul.
I totally agree with Pau Elam’s words. May she R.I.P. And I hope her child will be raised by good hands, away from hate and sickness.
During the mid-nineties, The Australian newspaper ran a story on the large and increasing rate of suicide among men – especially young men. I call that time the nasty nineties as there was clearly a feminist program of dehumanizing males in the media, universities etc. that has since become mainstream thought.
As always with anything to do with males, the female journalist asked a feminist to comment. The main stream feminist replied that this increase in male sucicide was evidence that the women’s movement was successful and proof that women were stronger than men. This passed without further comment in that paper.
If I remember right in the US the fems said that the reason men killed themselves 6 times as often as women was because men resorted to brutal methods like guns or hanging. Which proved only that men were brutes, not that they were unhappier. Women, on the other hand, seldom succeeded in killing themselves because they resorted to more civilized methods like swallowing downers. Since virtually all tranquilizers and sleeping pills now commonly prescribed are suicide-proof, women are spoiled for choice when they want to pull the ultimate victimhood stunt. As a rule, men commit suicide while women attempt suicide.
Hearing about anyone commiting suicide is hurtful to me.
Sorry Krista-RIP.
No one commits suicide because they want to die; they do it because they want to stop their pain. Rest in peace Krista.
I followed what Krista wrote on her blog. One of her beliefs was that handicapped people should be “euthanized”. She probably suffered alot in order to make her the way she was. It isn’t lost on me that if she had been a young man, society would not be sorry to see her go. Nevertheless, I’m sorry that she was that way and I hope that I would say the same about a male.
When I was younger I had someone threaten me with suicide in order to get what they wanted of me. I swore later that I would never tolerate such a situation again, no matter what. There is no cause for guilt here. She is entirely responsible for her own situation and her own actions.
My mother used to do this to me until one day I said, “You know what if you want to kill yourself I can’t stop you. Go right ahead.” She never threatened me with killing herself again and when she died it wasn’t by her own hand.
In my case, if she’d been a young man who espoused a racial supremacist or nazi-type ideology who, at age 20, suddenly changed his mind and killed himself, I’d feel exactly the same way. People, especially young people, who get caught up in hateful ideologies are victims of that hateful ideology. They are in pain, they see an explanation for their pain that points away from the real sources of their anguish that are more difficult to deal with, because it’s easy to blame instead.
A wonderful movie to see on this is “American History X,” starring Ed Norton. MRAs should probably see this for multiple reasons; amongst other things it is one of the only mainstream movies I’ve seen that deals directly with the everyday brutality of prison rape. But it also shows how a hateful mentality can develop in an otherwise normal and healthy person, and also how, with help, a person can be led away from unhealthy ideologies and unhealthy behaviors.
Sadly, Krista took one step on the road to recovery and, out of fear, could not take another step and in self-loathing destroyed herself. It was a bad choice, and an unnecessary one. Think of what she might have become if she’d learned to love her fellow human beings, the male half of the race, and been able to advocate against the hateful ideology that led her to the hateful place.
Once again I recommend “American History X.” I grew up knowing kids just like it. Watch it. Think of Ed Norton as a male Krista, and a lot of things will click for you I think.
Quote from Femitheist Divine’s blog:
“There is no greater satisfaction than knowing that those who have opposed the realities of True Equality will one day be purged from the face of the Earth.”
Poetic justice? Truthfully, I find it hard to feel sympathy for this person. The saddest thing here is the fact that she was allowed spew hate and violence without restraint because she happened to be female. I never understood why her blog was allowed to remain up in view of the content. Reverse the genders of her posts, and it would have been taken down and then followed by a visit from the police. In retrospect, she’d probably still be alive if that had happened. Just glad she didn’t harm anyone else. Radfem Hub members need to look no further than Krista Jane Heflin to see what they are.
There is never any reason to celebrate the death of any human being. This woman was clearly so mentally disturbed, that I doubt anyone could have prevented this outcome.
However, her mental state was a typical symptom of modern feminism. This same BPD type trait, can be found in the greater portion of female members of society today, to varying degrees.
They all speak the same language and they all have the same views regarding men. Sure their attitudes vary, from subtle to extreme, such as we see with this woman, but in general, they are all pretty much the same.
This leads me to think that most women suffer the same psychotic beliefs as do the nasty radical harridans, who espouse the extermination of 50% of “Mankind”.
I pray for this woman’s soul and hope she does not find herself in Hell for her bad deeds. But I am not going to join in with any apologetics, because that would be disingenuous.
From what I have read on the internet, there is some conjecture as to whether or not this is a stunt and that she is indeed still alive.
Really, where did you see this? Can you post a link?
I read this: “i’m pretty sure she’s alive. online obituaries would be there the day she died. the only one there is is on a free no registration website that people use for death hoaxes. i think the femitheist is dead but krista is alive and well. if not, she will be missed.
fluffiewuffie 4 hours ago”
here on this site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrLHLSCLB28
There are a couple of commentators on this site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctKkMU6Zwmo, who believe she was a narcissist and who then stated that these people rarely or never actually commit suicide.
I did read something on another site too, but now I can’t find it. Sorry!
Very interesting, Shrek6. Someone with NPD would definitely do something like this. You have definitely got me thinking. There is a dearth of other reference online to corroborate this suicide.
Mmmm….
limeywestlake & shrek6
See my (rather long) comment below – I am almost convinced her death is a hoax, which if proven is going to make a lot of people even more angry.
I look at it from a slightly different viewpoint, where she may have hopefully, woken up to herself and decided to try and re-enter society, as a ‘normal’ person but feared possible reprisals (leaving all that hate and other shit where it belongs – her blog).
She knew that she’d upset an awful lot of people out there, enough to make one or two of them angry enough to want to hurt her; so having them believe she is dead will give her sufficient time to effectively make an escape.
I also watched a you-tube made by a similar aged young man who appeared to be (quite genuinely) grieving over her loss… Hmmm…
One can say anything he / she chooses on the Internet…
That might also explain why her blog is still up – looks very real….
I don’t want to belittle this tragedy if it did happen, but I tried looking for her. I find it very odd that neither can I find, through obituary searches, her obituary in a newspaper, but I cannot find a Krista Jane Heflin in Minnesota, nor any of the other names from her (anonymous web user-submitted) obituary in general people searches matching people living in Minnesota (strange for people living in a major city). And lastly the sparse information about her personally all seems to have come from unnamed sources through people who don’t know her. It’s possible that this is quite real, but I just don’t see any of the expected evidence that a person who lived and died would leave.
That’s all you guys have been: guilt ridden apologists. Would this woman have given a fuck about you if she had her way with you? Do you think she would have given a fuck about you whatsoever? Fuck no.
If Hitler had a vagina the world would be mourning him/her.
I can only speak for myself, but I feel no guilt whatsoever at her death. There’s a world of difference between guilt and glee at the death of a 20 year old, ostensibly single, mother who had their whole life ahead of them. The rest of the world may very well totally write off a 20 y/o male who spouts hate before committing suicide, but I’d like to think such an act would provoke an equally introspective moment about the circumstances that drove him to such an end. In any case, if she’s even dead (which I also don’t believe at this point,) it’s not about her anymore. It’s about the family and friends suffering her loss that she (selfishly) left behind who can come here and read posts like yours. The sentiment that one should not speak ill of the dead transcends cultural and historical lines for good reason. It’s even more applicable when the deceased are young (“only the good die young” and all that.) Comparing her to Hitler is just silly. Hate speech laws are a violation of the freedom of speech and, as far as I can tell, hate speech was all she was guilty of. The dubious fact that this woman wouldn’t have cared about my own death, or perhaps even that of my son, is not relevant. I’m not a monkey that feels the need to mimic my opponents — especially when they want to wallow in sewage.
I’m tired of this “high road” crap that some people use to look noble. First of all I’m a Men’s Rights Soldier who is going to take down the enemy. This is an enemy who would like you and the rest of us dead. She is the enemy. I suggest you accept that because that is the situation we are in. If she had lived I’ll bet she would have murdered a good man and we would be commenting on the case.
It’s not about looking noble or taking the high road. It’s about being fair, honest… and practical.
The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house.
I am not against fighting fire with fire so to speak, but the methods of our enemies will not serve us. We have neither biology, social evolution or monied interests supporting us. The truth must be our sword — and our shield, and the truth is that the world is filled with shades of gray.
Calling this femofascist foot-soldier “the enemy,” in black and white moralizing, and polarizing, terms just plays into the sex war paradigm that feminists have been successfully exploiting for decades… but there is no “War on Women.” If we demand others take sides, as opposed to think rationally, we lend legitimacy to our enemy. We are only reinforcing the big lie that women are an oppressed class. Making any sort of emotional, and moralizing, appeals is doomed to fail whilst our biological hard-wiring, laws and social programming all demand we take the female side in such conflicts. To be effective our message AND our position, our rhetoric, and our substance, must be more nuanced, honest and inclusive.
Furthermore, you give this adult-child more credit than she deserves. Dogmatic adherents to feminist theology like her are a dime a dozen. Dismiss her for the fanatic she is, and has kindly, and publicly, proven herself to be, and move on. There is no honor to be gained, or progress to be made, by engaging her any further. We will only look like bullies picking on a disabled kid at this point (not to mention give her the attention she so craves.)
Now I findmyself praying hard for and concerned about her little girl. Who I believe is 3 by now.
Let us also hope and pray that this little girl ends up having a loving relationship with her father.
Hopefully the father is in a position to fight for her. We cannot assume he is a mongrel, because we have all been labelled as such by these hateful women. We can only assume that this woman has done what most women do in these circumstances, which is to kidnap her daughter and alienate her from the father.
If that is not true, then I publicly stand corrected!
She is with her grandmother.
and that in itself scares me , krista if she killed herself ( and its still a bloody big if ) grew up with a lot of hate and while if she did eat a bullet and did so of her own free will this hate did effect her.
That can’t be argued with. She (the daughter) was immersed in it one way or the other.
If she is in fact dead I know I am going to come off as a major asshat but, frankly although any suicide saddens me I was more saddened by her life. That she chose a life consumed by hatred and victim ideology is a complete waste of her 20 years.
I am far more saddened by the death of people like Mr. Ball. Not because he was a man, not because he advocated for fathers rights but, because the source of his despondency clearly was his ill treatment by others (i.e. family courts, a vindictive ex, etc).
In the Femithiest Divine case the source of despondency comes from within. And, I will go a step further than most and flat out blame feminism/radical feminism. Had Krista not been able to wear the feminist camouflage , her mental illness would have been apparent to everyone. Not just to a few. She would have been committed and given therapy.
Not that I am convinced she is dead. The persona may be dead and, hopefully the woman will seek help not just for her sake but, also so her views do not twist and warp her daughter into a person that will never be able to be happy.
I agree: Thomas James Ball is in a different league altogether.
I sent him a Facebook friend request the other day; sure, he is deceased, but it just seemed like the right to do when I was on his page.
And he liked Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes, too.
What a guy.
Excuse me if I appear a little optimistic here, but is Krista Heflin ACTUALLY deceased?
I have searched quite thoroughly and cannot find anything such as local newspaper stories confirming Krista’s death.
I did however, find this comment below a You-Tube about it:
“i’m pretty sure she’s alive. online obituaries would be there the day she died. the only one there is is on a free no registration website that people use for death hoaxes. i think the femitheist is dead but krista is alive and well. if not, she will be missed.”
fluffiewuffie 4 hours ago
I really hope the commenter ‘fluffiewuffie’ is correct!
I read most of Krista’s comments on her ‘femitheist’
blog and although this may seem odd to most of you, I was not offended by any of her waffle and rantings. I considered firstly her age, then reading between her numerous lines, was able to deduce that she’d come from a somewhat dysfunctional family and ended up feeling quite sad for her.
I could clearly see that all that hate was in fact directed at HERSELF, not the MRM or anyone else.
This girl was living in an internal hell – she clearly had a very distorted view of the world around her and through no real fault on her part. She’d obviously been in close relationships with some of the world’s more destructive and very negative people and influences, Radfem Hub and other similar misandrous institutions being one of many.
When a fellow human being is sick (physically or mentally and regardless of what their apparent beliefs might be), they need compassion and help, not condemnation.
All her rantings were after all, only WORDS. She didn’t, at least not to my knowledge: actually harm anyone.
Also I am a man, therefore I am strong of will and of character. I do not let mere words, especially the words of a 20 year old, disturbed young woman offend me!
I ignored her raving and therefore did not post any comments to her blog.
The ‘FAREWELL’ comments that were the last entry on her blog, almost confirm ‘fluffiewuffie’s’ belief that only the blogger: ‘the femitheist’ is dead and that blogger’s body: Krista, is still alive and well.
If blogger ‘fluffiewuffie’ is right, let’s hope Krista will have a much more fulfilling and happier existence in what could possibly be and that I hope will be, her ‘new life’.
I realize that many are not going to support my views here, but this is how I perceive the situation.
After having another read of the last article/entry she wrote on her blog-site, I am more inclined to agree with you. I think, from what I read, that she has killed off Femitheist Divine, so that she can re-start her life over again.
I didn’t necessarily read anything into the article that said anything about her ending it all. The whole message to me was that she was pulling the plug on her ‘online activities’ and that she would leave the blog up for anyone who wished to comment.
So why would she leave the blog up?
I would also bet she is monitoring that blog to keep an eye on the fall-out from her alleged suicide. If she is that self-centred, then she is going to relish all the attention.
Am I convinced of this?
No of course not!
The fact that these nasty radical feminists are such efficient liars, puts me in the position to believe just about anything of this woman.
Whether she has gone or not (and I do not wish her dead), the fact that she is no longer spewing her poison against men, is a good thing.
This has numerous markings of being not-a-hoax to me. But if it is a hoax, then, what would be typical for the personality type inclined to do such a thing is she won’t be able to make herself continue the charade and will eventually quite visibly reappear.
I don’t think it’s going to happen. I’ll be glad if she does turn out to have been faking it though, for multiple reasons.
What we are hearing about is not the product of feminism.
We are seeing the shambles that has played out to it’s finality, the ending of a tailspin who’s mapping was written by the dodgy BPD gene.
She didn’t roll the die when her father’s sperm punctured her mother’s egg. She was the receptical for the cards dealt her and her hand was a losing one.
Sure, she died by her own hand and she is responsible. But is she entirely ? She pulled the trigger but would have she ?
I loathe her words and what she stood for. I despise her message entirely. I loathe and despise the affliction of her condition, and it’s this I believe that hijacked a better self in her that we never saw.
Feminism didn’t strike her down and the MRM didn’t either. The BPD gene did.
Goodbye kid. I hope you find a joy you were denied in this life.
Definitely very sad to hear this news. The whole story is sad, that a misguided woman found solace in the hatred of men and boys just like so many women (and men) do. And so many women get paid large salaries in institutions such as universities to make a career in the hatred of men and boys and are able to influence policies and laws with the motivating factor to harm men and boys.
Also a strong reminder for everyone here to stay strong and seek the support of others if they feel down. Suicide rates are massively higher for males than females. Equally we should remember that feminists are not about equality, rather about promoting bigotry against men and boys, and attempting to turn all males into manginas. Hence, why so many feminists support adult content depicting torture and submission of men which is now mainstream.
Stay strong everyone. RIP Krista Jane Heflin, I hope the incredible hatred you felt for people simply because they were born with external genitals has disappeared and that you are at peace.
If this is a hoax, the real joke is on the perpetrators of it.
Instead of reacting with hate and celebratory high-five-ng, like many of the feminists on the sub/reddit and other hate-filled feminist echo chambers engaged in regarding the news of a potential suicide in the MRM community this past spring; the men and women here and other MRA sites have largely responded with compassion and circumspection.
If this is a hoax, it is the product of a very sick and possibly sociopathic mind. It would seem the author(s) of it are projecting their own character deficits onto the good men and women here, as well as judging others by their own amoral yardstick.
If this is a hoax, it says far more about the individual(s) who hatched such a sick prank/public opinion baiting than the targets of the hoax.
Spot on Dr T.
If there’s a spot to be on, I usually find that Dr. Tara’s right square on it.
Exactly, Dr. T.
I couldn’t agree more.
I’m pretty proud of you guys.
Coming on the heels of men taking a bullet defending women, it’s not looking too good for the “all men need to die” team.
It’s not looking good for the “Poor Feminathiest suicided because of online harassment by Mean Men just because she wanted them all dead” enablers, either.
Some people you just can’t reach. For some people trying to help them is the worst thing you can do. Im sure Paul and Dr T could expand on this. After reading her last post I think she was one of those people that if you tried to help her you would be throwing gas on a fire. The only thing you can do is sit back and wait until they get to a point where you can help them and hope they don’t destroy themselves before they get to that point.
May she rest in peace. I will be praying for her daughter and her family and friends.
It is often quite difficult to decide whether a person’s egregious behaviour should be excused on grounds of psychotic causes or other mental impairment. In fact, some people seem to think that almost all great “evils” can be attributed to at least borderline psychosis on the part of the perpetrator. But that doesn’t necessarily imply automatic forgiveness even when it ends in self-destruction. The usual consideration is whether that person himself/herself was capable of distinguishing between right and wrong.
I’ve said it before, but, our society’s main problem is not that we give compassion to women, or assign accountability to men. Rather, we assign too much compassion to women and don’t hold them accountable enough, while, we assign too much accountability to men but don’t give them enough compassion.
If the settings for “Accountability” and “Compassion” run from 0-10, then children all start out with a 0 on accountability and a 10 on compassion. As they age, we slowly dial up the accountability and dial down the compassion. You would think that the ideal setting for most people as adults would be 5 and 5. We recognize that you are deserving of compassion but not always and in everything, and we recognize that you are deserving of accountability but not always in everything, and that you are often deserving of both: consequences for your actions, but compassion for whatever led you to do or say destructive things.
Unfortunately we live in a world where the “accountability” setting for women seems to be permanently stuck at around 2 or 3 and the “compassion setting for them” appears to be permanently stuck at around 7 or 8. They have to work very hard to piss people off to get either of those to change much.
Similarly, once they become adults, men seem permanently stuck at around a 2 or 3 on the compassion dial, and 7 or 8 on the accountability dial. Thus they are assigned blame even for things they can’t control or have little control over, and we’re quick to show them only minimal or no compassion.
Dial up the accountability and dial down the compassion for women to something to closer to 5 and 5, and do the reverse to men. Then you have the right mindset I think. I try to do this in all my thinking, and when I do that it’s very easy for me: I can both feel sorry for Krista and her pain, AND, hold her accountable for the things she said. Ditto for practically any everyday human being of either sex.
Interesting that you should mention children in this context of male/female accountability and compassion. It reminds me of the many times when “women and children” get mentioned together in news accounts and other stories pertaining to tragic events — almost as if they were equally blameless and equally deserving of special consideration over the relatively inconsequential male victims of the same tragedy.
Women themselves, of course, would strongly deny any such infantilized equivalancy of there proper place in society — except, perhaps, when it’s tacit acceptance is occasionally convenient. But we’ll wait a very long time, I think, before we’ll ever see any similar news accounts where “the disaster caused X deaths and injuries, including Y men and their children”.
Oops. “there proper place” = their proper place.
Damn! What happened to the edit function?
its a shame she didnt call her dad when she needed him or anyone for that matter its a shame someone so young lost so much.. it will be a sad day for everyone involved…
A very important historical case involving Feminism, eugenics, sociopathology & homicide (the actions are blamed on the hard-working, tolerant, man, of course)
“Hazel Luikart, Inspired by Feminist Theory & Eugenics Propaganda, Poisons Two Daughters For Their Own Good (and for a “Career”) – 1919″
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/09/hazel-luikart-inspired-by-feminist.html
I hope feminists or anyone for that matter doesn’t twist the whole “Fuck Their Shit Up” to have anything to do with this…I can see it happening as it doesn’t take much for feminists to twist something to their benefit.
Some might say a voice of hatred has been silenced, I say someone needed help and they were not able to get it in time.
So long as the world continues to view BPD/NPD behaviour as normal and “she’s just having a bad day”, the people who need help and who are the most destructive to themselves and/or the people around them will continue to be as such.
A hate-filled, misandric fembot takes her own life.
What do you say about that?
“As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.”
Works the same way for chicks, too.
Spend your life in a cesspool of hate and propaganda, and you’ll succumb to the dark side as well.
Just a thought, kiddos. Spend a little time playing with a puppy or doing something positive. Valerie Salonas obsessed about dark bullshit, and look what it did for her.
I left this on her YouTube channel (warts and all (grammatical errors)),
“R.I.P. Krista. Even your adversaries would have never wished this upon you. I sincerely hope this is an April fools type joke your pulling on everyone. If not, even your most bitter opponents hope you are ok….in this life or otherwise.”
A lot of us were here for you Krista when it got down to brass tacks.
Arghh. Dammnit. This ain’t right…at all.
P.S. Futelle, fuck off on this one. We (MRAs) care a hell of a lot more than you ever did. And by the way, we aren’t all right wing Fox news watchin’, Kock lickin’ assclowns like you so fevererishly portray us as.
“FUCK YOU!” In advance asshole fuckbag cretin to your obscenely predictable response to these happenings.
Oh and don’t forget to criticize my (and all other MRA) music too. You’ve been slacking in high fashion in that department lately.
For the love of God Krista, no one wanted this.
*Koch
*Futrelle
“P.S. Futelle, fuck off on this one. We (MRAs) care a hell of a lot more than you ever did. And by the way, we aren’t all right wing Fox news watchin’, Kock lickin’ assclowns like you so fevererishly portray us as.
“FUCK YOU!” In advance asshole fuckbag cretin to your obscenely predictable response to these happenings.”
Well said…
Thanks.
Meow.
..im extremely disappointed at the lack of “thumbs down”.
Bend over shitheads. Especially you Futrelle.
You are turd of thue highest order.
By the way, Krista thought you sucked ass too.
I view this as a sad, tragic loss of life and what could have been.
It could have been worse, she could have hurt others and that is the scenario, ironically her death prevented.
It could have been better and she could have not been indoctrinated into the hate she felt and and poisoned views that it brought about.
The child she left behind now bears the brunt and pain, but also gets to live, hopefully under a differing legacy.
It still saddens me.
It’s sad as fuck. It sucks on so many angles.
Like another person who posted before me, I too am flabbergasted as to why her blog was allowed to stay up for so long, seeing that one of her posts said that all men and boys deserved to be sexually mutilated. A post like that really says a lot about how disturbed a person must be.
Although I’m glad that her hatred did not end up killing anyone else, I can’t help but feel bad for the little girl she left behind, and her family. I also can’t help but wonder if maybe behind all of that disdain for all things male, there was a very lonely, depressed, woman who turned to misandry as means of getting the attention she sought.
I am not happy that Krista Jane Heflin (Femitheist) is dead. I am grateful that she did not murder her daughter as many mentally ill women obsessed with feminism have done before they commit suicide. Heflin’s condition might well have been treatable. But we have not yet reached the point where persons suffering from misandric fixation are treated with equality.
This is yet another reason that universities need to give proportionate representation to Male Studies scholars, so that the numerous frauds perpetrated by cultural Marxism believers can be countered with facts. We need progress to equality for non-marxist (people who do not believe the marxist doctrine that the family must be abolished) scholars, students and citizens immediately.
I recommend a look at the story of Meagan Mundi, a feminist who, in 2003, killed herself and her daughter, inspired apparently by misandric theories.
“I martyr myself for my gender and to protect my daughter.” – Maegan Mundi – 2003
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2012/07/i-martyr-myself-for-my-gender-and-to.html
In future, when I encounter anyone with views like hers, I will pause before replying in the manner that their words deserve, and perhaps ask them if they are ok.
How bitter do these words of hers sound now?
“In truth, no human life holds any inherent worth. In fact, there is nothing truly valuable about anything in the universe. These ideals of worth are human constructs, and nothing more. They do not actually exist, and this fact is why I look beyond conventional practicality when formulating my ideologies.” ~ Krista Jane Heflin, aka “Femitheist Divine”, RIP July 18, 2012
i understand what you are saying , but if we do start to self censor and apply the kid gloves when we see hatred we stop being effective we should be challenging hatred, not worrying about the feelings of the hater, im sorry if it sounds harsh but im worried we white knight ourselves into uselessness.
Good observation.
When a man commits suicide in these misandric times, it’s often after he’s been hounded and harassed by the system, had his rights denied, lost all options, lost his ability to support himself, and death becomes the only way out. And feminists dance on his grave. If a woman commits suicide, could it be because she woke up one day and realized the horror of what she stood for? There is not much dancing taking place on Krista Jane Heflin’s grave. It would be far better, for all concerned, if her suicide does in fact turn out to be a fabrication.
Either way, whatever the truth behind this story, perhaps the MRM should make room for feminists that repent. It’s a thought that occured to me before… surely there must be some among the feminists who realize, and are asking themselves “what have I done?”
I would welcome feminists who repent, and I have even put out calls for that occasionally.
Feminsts are welcome here as long as ‘they put their big girl panties on….’
Yeah, I will always be in debt to GWW for that one.
Well I am not gonna celebrate or dance on her death because that’s against my humanity and moral codes (These both things build my world in which i live), but i do wanna say that her death is because of Radical Feminism and Feminism’s catastrophe.
The real reason of her death was not “Us” or MRA’s it was her firm belief on feminism, She was so much into these sick rituals of radical feminism that she fantasize about things that could be devilish in nature and we know that satan is hard at work with people who are “dark” and “ugly”.
But last i am gonna finish my comment with this advice to radical feminism (If they are reading this), IT IS YOU WHO IS TO BLAME FOR HER DEATH AND TO DEATH OF THOUSAND OTHER YOUNG MEN, IT IS YOU TO BLAME FOR THE MURDERS OF CHILDREN BY THEIR PSYCHOTIC MOTHERS, IT IS YOU TO BLAME FOR CHILD ABUSES AND CHILD NEGLECT, IT IS YOU TO BLAME FOR MURDERS AND SEXUAL ABUSES OF 20 YEAR OLD KRISTA.
R.I.P Krista (You may have seen devil in me, you may have fantasized about my murder and genital mutilation but i offer my sympathy to you & to your sweet angel, Who is left alone, Maybe you didnt poisoned her but i pray a safe and happy life for her)
This is both a tragic and unfortunate event. May she rest in peace.
At the end of the day, mental illness should be the focus of this ordeal. The standard by which she lived her life is irrelevant. It was a crippling brain disease that facilitated her to claim her own life. After observing the misery and suffering of others who have mental illness, I wish society took greater strides to care for these types of people. More attention should be paid to them and help offered. It is already known they cannot function normally as the average person can in society. The least we can do is give them a helping hand to make their lives more bearable. By contrast, if they refuse such help how necessary is it to intervene in their lives to give them help? There are many tough questions that are raised.
I only wish more funding and organization could be provided for ways to actively take on these issues.
This is the cognitive dissonance that can be expected when ones belief system is rendered usunder. Those of us with adequate coping skills as well as a strong sense of self preservation and self esteem survive these types of life changes. A very small percentage actually pull lifes eject handle. She may have only symbolically killed off her Internet alter. Laying low and reinventing a new attention whore for the Internet attention she craves.
If the feminists try to come at this (if it’s even true which I certainly doubt given they way feminists are constantly seeking attention and sympathy) from a hate speech/bullying angle they’re stuck. Feminists (e.g. feminist that is the subject of this article) say things about men all the time that would make the little girl from “The Exorcist” blush.
If feminists try to come at this from a prevention/humanitarian point of view they’re also stuck. Suicide is a much bigger social problem for males.
Feminists are just gonna do what they always do. They’re gonna have one giant circle jerk/scissoring session with like-minded people and try to bully anyone that is not like them.
I had a brief exchange with her a few months ago, and even got a saucy e-mail at one point.
Some people made far too much of her in life, but I hope they’ll not go on in that vein now that she is no longer among us.
And that is my final word upon the subject.
Did you by chance check the originating IP on that e-mail? We might narrow down the actual physical location of this troll and smoke her out from under her bridge.
Exactly – I need that info if it is still around. Let me know.
As someone who has been to very dark places in my life as well as someone who has attended far too many funerals in recent years, I echo what others have already said. There is no celebration at this news, nor are there any tears.
If Krista is dead, her tragic demise can be hung around no one else’s neck but her own. May she find peace.
However, if this is the death of the Femitheist persona then may Krista find peace and the help she needs.
You see before I found the MRM I was much like the Femitheist. Only mine was not a gendered hatred, but a misanthropic one. I hated everyone and everything equally. It was MRAs who basically told me that it was alright to be in pain; I just didn’t need to be a dick about it. This made me stop and reflect.
That was years ago, and this may have happened in this case. Krista may have killed the Femitheist, and I hope she lives to find peace. But if it is the other way around, I hope Krista has finally found peace.
Yes, I echo your sentiments exactly.
If Krista has killed off her online persona, then that is a great thing and hopefully she is getting the help she needs to balance her life. Who knows what awful influences she has had on her young life so far.
If she has in fact, taken her own life, then that is very sad.
A sad story.
Prior to this article I’d never heard of this young woman and my consideration of her life story is limited to the rather superficial information contained here and that which is found in her farewell blog, but I am no stranger to suffering and I expect that neither was she.
I also will not blame her death on the hateful ideology she espoused, but I do suspect it played a role.
Those most at risk of suicide are those without meaningful relationships with other human beings. People who feel disconnected from society and in a state of normlessness and anomie.
Feminism is a divisive, and all-encompassing, ideology of hate based on a foundation of fundamental untruths. Upon accepting it you have already declared all “non-believers” as “the other” and taken away their humanity — but you have also taken away your own ability to have real human connections with them — for they are the enemy. You have divorced yourself from reality and objective truth in favor of the politically correct… and cognitive dissonance can be extremely upsetting.
I have no doubt that there were many factors that played a role in this young lady’s decision, but the fact that she was conned into accepting a belief system that was divorced from reality and which alienated her from the affections of males probably did not help. In the only picture of her I saw, she looked young and pretty and probably had any number of young men crazy about her, except that, according to what she had been taught, they were all “potential rapists.”
Her farewell espoused frustration related to arguing online, losing the arguments and lying. To the extent these factors played a role in her decision, it seems reasonable to surmise that it is altogether possible that the feminist narrative that she was indoctrinated with, combined with the irrational exuberance and passion to change the world that is characteristic of all youth helped drive her into the abyss.
May she rest in peace.
Yikes!
I never payed much attention to her
I’ve read a few of her blog posts, and it was just obvious that she was just totally fucked up
I thought it was odd that she allowed all of those comments on her site
Usually with feminists, especially feminists as demented as she was, they have the comments locked down, and only her friends could post comments
I saw that as a good thing, I thought hey, maybe she’s stronger than the average feminazi, and could take the heat (heat that she deserved)
But after reading her last post, it became clear that she left comments open because she wanted that kind of attention, that she wanted to be hated.
I guess now we’ll hear from all of the Jezebels and Femifisters about how the MRM made her eat a bullet, when in reality, she’s a victim of her own pathology.
Everyone I personally know that has died in the last 5 years has had multiple sources of proof confirming it on the internet.
Mongo,
Yes that has been my experience too, yet interestingly: none of those deceased that I knew would have had anything like the ‘fame’ (or maybe ‘infamy’?) that young Krista (Femitheist Divine) has earned (deserved), over the last few weeks…
5 Years? You mean 5 Days right?
I sometimes have a problem with the words “choose”, “choice”, and their variants. This matter is one of them.
My big sister, even more so than Femitheist, looked, to us, “out here”, as tho she “chose” to commit suicide back in 2000.
Since 1982, thru the est and Forum weekend seminars of Werner Erhard, I “got” that *choosing responsibility” – even for things in life that don’t look like one chose them – can be a powerful approach to said life.
However, there are provisos in this. One is that one can only choose responsibility, can only truly choose, provided one’s mental health is a modicum of intact. My sister’s, for example, was not, and never was.
For ultimately (I “got” thru those same seminars), choosing is a *game* – a “choosing[!] to make something more important than something else”, to quote Erhard’s definition: But senior to all the “responsibility game”, is the fact – or notion, if you prefer – that *everything is machinery*: Everything and everyone in this universe is on automatic, from beginning to end, and nothing, ultimately, is more important than anything else.
Thus the most effective form of choosing is to *choose what you get*.
Again, however, the “responsibility game* is only a potentially effective tool for people who “are already successful in life” to quote Erhard again – which, of course, includes being sane.
In other words, quite literally, no one in her right mind would choose the life, mindset, and accompanying torments Femitheist and my sister went thru.
For me, “choice” and its variants are, at this time, too enmeshed in our culture with *values*, and even with kneejerk emotional evaluations, to have a rational (!) discussion about. (Take the abortion debate (please!).)
(Take the abortion debate (please!).)
Yeah, that’s where women murder our children without our consent. Where we Fathers’ never get the chance nor have the legal right to say NO!
That’s where women think they have the rights over someone else’s body.
As is the case with all feminists. It’s only those who push the pro-baby murder policy (abortion), who can never have a rational debate without turning it into a screaming match, where they accuse all who disagree with them, as being misogynists and woman haters.
Shrek – Legalized abortion is where I first copped an aversion to that word “choice”.
Abortion is literally a ripoff: the weakest one without the vote (as usual) gets no choice whether he gets his arms and legs ripped off.
JB, they are now allowing the baby to be born, then shoving a needle into the brain of this wonderful human being and Euthanising them like a dog. I think they call it partial birth and after birth abortion.
And yes, I have the same feelings toward the word ‘choice’ as you. Whenever I hear a female use that word, I immediately feel nauseous.
Remember part of the man’s body is destroyed by abortion. Your sperm and DNA, the seeds of life. So, physically (not too mention emotionally) part of you does die as a result of abortion. Legally could this be considered some sort of crime? Assault and battery? Manslaughter? Hmmm….
You don’t seem to understand. It’s HER body, HER choice. Your contribution of 50% of the genetic material is irrelevant. Even if they are allowed to survive and be born, they’re HER children by right of ownership and possession.
Don’t believe me? Just ask her. Or ask the governing authorities or the courts.
It sure is a crime. Well, it would be if all things were equal. But as Arvy states below, the law and the childish selfish demands of women, have trumpet all natural laws.
Apart from the fact it is murder, I agree it should be a crime representing the loss to the Father.
Just because a woman has the uterus and carries the child/baby/fully functioning human being for 9 months, gives her no rights whatsoever over the life or body of this child.
This only goes to show just how evil feminism truly is. They espouse genocide and gendercide. Women, and I do mean the vast majority of women in this world, seem to be unable to publicly speak out against this evil.
I wonder why??
Abortion: 50 million dead babies and counting. Way to go ladies.
May she rest in peace.
No one should kill themselves for anything. But unfortunately it has happened here.
That all said! I just want to see what are going to be the responses from places like Radfem, Manboobz, and their like…….
On a side note: As of lately it seems that Manboobz is increasing his ‘attacks’ against AVfM.
“… we always remember that Krista Jane Heflin is dead because of Krista Jane Heflin …”
I am not so sure Paul.
If this woman had advocated for the genocide of women and the killing of girls, most people would have told her to seek professional help. Instead, because her anger was directed at men and boys, it was accepted and normalized.
It was not pain and anger that killed this woman. It was the ignorance of everyone around her.
Krista would have delighted in the extermination of billions of people. Many feminists delighted in the suicide of an MRA and egged on in great delight another MRA who expressed a desire to commit suicide – all without being condemned by their fellow feminists. Despite the fact that even the Nazis had no intention of exterminating billions of people, I can’t stoop down to the sociopathic and sadistic level of feminists.
R.I.P. Krista.
And R.I.P. to the massive amounts of men whose deaths Krista and other feminists cheer on.
@ Iron John -
“If she is dead, then may she rest in peace.”
You’re being generous. This woman is the product of all her evil choices throughout life. She was not mentally ill. She is evil and deserves no sympathy. She’s in hell.
As always, you can expect someone calling themselves a feminist to embarrass the entire movement. At least one feminist on Tumblr has posted that Krista killed herself to “bullying misogynists.”
Godzilla-sized facepalm.
Let me guess, She posting videos and blogs about gender eugenics, mass male murdering, international castration days celebration, Mass gender based infant killing, & Full of misandric theories and fantasies is an innocent victim now? and the people who tried to uncover her vast male hatred were bully misogynist? Now that calls for hypocrites Hmm. well i am sure we saved her videos and blog post just in case that some feminist in future would not call us on her murder.
Which was her own fault but overall we are over that we see humanity first and foremost rather than bash a dead men (Like feminist did to a MRA) we don’t like to scream at dead people but we are sharing our sympathy because she was brainwashed by feminist dogma.
So is she truly dead? Am getting conflicting messages coming in on the wire.
Either way, for gawds sake don’t give Futrelle, who is totally irrelevant here, any more publicity.
Fuck futrelle,fuck the feminists and their reactions. If you’re going to get your panties in a bunch do it over someone worth it. If people can’t tell that feminazis are evil at this point they are either fellow feminazis or they are too stupid to bathe and clothe themselves. Either way we don’t need them.
Quote from Krista:
So I just want to stress. As all of us feel bad that she is dead, she feels bad that we are alive. She wants us castrated and eventually exterminated.
Fuck her,may the devil have her.
Wow… well, she deserves credit for openly saying what so many radical feminists think but haven’t got the stones to come right out and say in the open.
If a man were to say anything remotely resembling that he would be arrested before the day was out.
I’m not convinced that she is dead, nor am I convinced that she’s not just running away offstage after a failed attempt at getting away with her violent proclamations.
The only place she’s listed as dead, is in the Online Obituary site, “where anybody can post information, pictures and stories of those who have died.” I could make one of myself or any other alive or even mythical person there.
I checked in the obit sections of some actual Minnesota newspapers. She was not in any of them.
Not in the Minneapolis Messenger http://www.minneapolismessenger.net/obituaries.htm
Not in the Minnesota Daily http://www.mndaily.com/search?query=Heflin&sa=Search
And not in the Star Tribune http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/startribune/obituary-search.aspx?daterange=30&lastname=Heflin&countryid=1&stateid=27&affiliateid=940
I guess what I’m saying is that I’m skeptical. It might be true, but it might not be true.
Who wrote the Online Obit for her? How did people find out for sure that she’s allegedly dead?
‘Scuse my party-pooping question-asking. Can’t bring me anywhere!
I am buying your take on this. I think is is just a borderline setup, at this point.
Hi Paul.
Sorry if I missed any announcement on this issue, because I have been away.
But what has happened to the ‘edit’ function when making posts?
Even though I use word to write them up, I do still make mistakes sometimes and would like the opportunity to re-write the post if the tone seems wrong.
I agree. I also did an obituary search for her brother and mother, who are listed as deceased on the DepartednGone page and couldn’t find death notices for Renee Heflin nor Daniel Heflin.
If this is a hoax, she also offed members of her own family. WTH? Wish fulfillment? Or did she do it so no one will contact her mother or brother (if she even has/had one) for confirmation?
Has anyone thought to contact CPS to inquire after the welfare of her daughter?
I saw an interesting take on this linked in another comments section. I don’t know where it’s originally from:
The very reason I’ve chosen not to comment further on this.
It stinks.
Please forgive me for going OT. I was just reading the Wikipedia bio of the British journalist, Neil Lyndon, who published the seminal book on misandry entitled ” No more sex war” way back in 1992.
I found the reaction to its publication very interesting.
Quote:
“The work received a large amount of attention in the media, most of it hostile and abusive, vilifying Lyndon.
Rather than addressing the issues and arguments raised by Lyndon, most critics instead chose to abuse him personally. They suggested he was sexually inadequate, questioned the size of his penis, his masculinity, his ability to attract women and even the smell of his breath. Almost two decades later feminist writer Julie Burchill continued the attack, suggesting he was a “sad-sack” and “the opposite of a man”. In a review of book of the year, Helena Kennedy refused to even discuss the publication, simply instructing people not to buy it.
Even more serious abuses of Lyndon were to come such as an assault at Heathrow Airport. At Cambridge university, Lyndon’s Alma-mater, the female president of the student’s union encouraged students to burn his writings and a don told her pupils that she would like to see him shot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Lyndon
Time to bestow some much belated kudos on this early MRM methinks….
I’d never heard of this author or book. Looks like its out of print but worth reading. Hope I can find a used copy. Appreciate the info.
It would be cool if we could maintain a MRM reading list here at AVFM. Would help us keep track of meaningful authors and also help new MRA’s if they want some background to get introduced to what is going on.
There are suggested reading lists maintained on several MRA sites across the manosphere. While AVfM certainly can host a list of their, you can also contribute any info you feel that would be useful to MRM to The Men’s Rights Directory (mensrightsdirectory.net). We will create a whole new category if needed to allow users to contribute to a MRM suggested reading or you can email it us (mensrightsdirectory @ gmail.com).
How long before the misandrists at Wikipedia censor this as well? I am becoming more and more compelled to devote more and more time for gender equality for men and boys, and ending and preventing laws which are blatantly discriminatory against males.
Me too, Jay. It is work that needs to be done. Every day that fucking red pill gets larger and larger. It is starting to make me choke. It is like waking up to a goddamn awful nightmare. I used to think women, in general, were the epitome of fair-mindedness. Now I see them very differently. A few are NAWALT, many are asleep at the wheel (‘Good Germans’,) and the rest are, as Typhon puts it, being just downright mean.
Regarding Radical Feminists: it just boggles my mind how they can get out of bed in the morning. Do they feel no shame? Did we learn nothing from the holocaust?
They would have us all wearing armbands for sure.
Regardless of whether this is a fake or not, it was a useful rehearsal for the real thing. It’s only a matter of time before some man goes on rampage and it later transpires that he was a member of the egregious MRM. If MRAs are growing in numbers, it is a statistical certainty that this will happen. We must be prepared not to run like rabbits when the blaming begins.
You mean like some of the white knights on this board are doing now.
I believe that she had posted Youtube videos, which she recently removed. Did anyone download copies of these? What did they contain?
I managed to find this, which supposedly is her being booed off stage while giving a presentation, but it is not very clear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdH8ReCK8H4
It’s terrible that she took her life, especially at 20. I never knew her, nor did I ever even pay her any attention so it doesn’t really have an effect on me but to the people who it did affect, I extend my condolences to them, especially her family.
I’m sure that under her “hateful” exterior she was just another young girl with the same problems any other young girl faces.
I think this song fits perfectly here:
Sorry to hear the bad news. Taking one’s life is never good. If only she had listened to our advice, or considered listening.
still no verifiable sources that back this up , after this lenght of time and no new stories in her area of any suicides no verifiable obits etc then i call bullshit she is still alive
Is she dead, seriously? I’m not happy about this, whatever she had written on her blog. I could not take her seroius for a moment, but 20 yrs , way too young to die.
But… I’m sure she could use some professional help. Where were the child care officals, etc, etc
I must admit that I’ve never visited the feminist divine blog before, maybe because I’m not mentally strong enough to deal with such people.
If you’ve ever visited youtube(if you have internet) you’ve certainly came across a phenomenon called the reply girls. These girls have attracted the ire of the youtube community, and some of the replays to them have been over the top:
“you don’t know what work, ambition intelligence meaning understanding or empathy really is. I hope you fully understand that you are abusing our human nature to make money just to perpetuate your useless pathetic evil existence, There is no better way to put it, and i mean this whole heartedly, I want to go fucking kill yourself you dumb cunt. “
Seeing as someone who’s only crime is to be annoying is it any surprise that feminist divine attracted so much hatred.
Look when you present so much hatred and bile do not be surprised if you attract animosity in return.
Lets not forget that far more benign men have attracted the hatred of the feminist horde, and they never advocated the murder of their sex.
Blaming the MRAs makes about as much sense as blaming youtubers.
Any death at such a young age is a tragedy, especially by their own hand. However, the real tragedy is that her death will be exploited to the full by the radfem sect. They will turn her into a martyr for the cause, use this as another drum beating in their war chant to promote more hate and to seek to blame all men for this.
I would not be surprised if a carefully fabricated article comes out from the radfem camp about her being sexually abused as more justification for spreading even more hatred of the “enemy”.
To paraphrase another well known sociopath, she was and still is another useful tool for the radfem movement.
The sick thing here is that the radfems will claim to be celebrating her life when in fact they’ll be exploiting her death to it’s fullest.
As has been stated here, the manhater team is losing ground, both the moral high ground and the common ground in the view of the average citizen.
There is more compassion and understanding expressed on this blog then will be forthcoming from the radfems.
We should regret her death and not celebrate it, on the other side of the fence, they will “celebrate” her death as a martyrdom for their sick cause and to use as fuel to further stoke their fires of hatred.
The amount of ground conceded to the radfems is minimal and will stay that way until we get out from behind our keyboards, one and all, and start FTSU in the ‘meat-space.’ Those who maintain that the MRM is a purely online phenomenon are unwittingly curtailing its next phase. Along with JtO (and a band of other dedicated brothers,) I am a member of the growing Vancouver MRA. In a month and a half, we have gained much ground; we take our cause to the streets every weekend and partake of an essential camaraderie. Believe me, our presence is being felt already. I have heard the murmurings that attest to this fact. As I type, a similar group is organizing in Edmonton. There are murmurings of one starting up in Washington DC.
Lets take our philosophy to them, I say. Then and only then will we gain true traction.
MRA’s everywhere: put a posting in your local Craigslist. Set up a Meetup group. Magic happens. This an idea whose time has come.
Extremely well written article Paul.
I feel sorry for her family if she did off herself.
I am proud to see how almost all of the MRM has responded to this possible suicide event, unlike how the ugly sisters commented when a MRA found himself in the darkest times.
Sage words and advice Paul when you wrote
” let’s leave them as the sole inhabitants of that low ground.”
And they breed like cockroaches in that low ground, my only question is when will the society wake up and take notice of their words and actions in that “low ground” gutter?
That being said I am more concerned and distressed by the fact that as far as I can ascertain, we have a suicide ratio of at least 4 men for every one woman. While this 1 woman’s possible suicide is sad let us never forget those 4 men who did themselves in as well.
IMHO unfortunately, the feminists will make a mountain out of this 1 sad woman’s choices while totally ignoring the epidemic of male suicides.
And yet feminism will beat that tired, worn out, tattered old drum, that the ideology (feminism) is all about treating and caring for people equally.
been checking today again and nothing out there to show this is real
I want to preface this by saying that I didn’t read any of this chick’s missives prior to Paul’s original post. Other than my obvious MRA leanings I don’t have a horse in this race. That said and full credit to several prior posters that called out this story as BS I did some legwork yesterday and today as follows:
I personally spoke to the medical examiner offices in the following Minnesota counties; Hennepin (Minneapolis), Ramsey (Saint Paul), Dakota (Hastings) & Anoka (Anoka). I gave them the name and date of death info from Heflin’s obit on departedandgone.com. None of them had a record of this death. The Hennepin County folks also indicated that based upon the reported date of death if it was a gunshot suicide it would have been reported by now and would be prioritized from a autopsy standpoint and would have been in their database. Two of these counties also checked the State of Minnesota database and found no record.
I then called the First Covenant Church in Minneapolis which the obit called out Heflin as being a member of. Spoke to a very nice lady who indicated that if Ms. Heflin had been active in the church and had committed suicide recently then their family support activities would likely have been aware and involved. This woman had never heard of Heflin or her suicide. That said there are plenty of folks (me included) that are recorded members of churches but don’t attend often, aren’t active and are unknown to “church regulars”. This is particularly true in churches like this one which has a large diverse urban congregation. This may or may not mean anything in this review, but it is another important info point.
I also spent some time on Google looking for Heflin and her called out relatives. No reasonable matches. Probably not a big deal as far as proving anything. That said there are plenty of “pay as you go” public info services that query the same databases as the credit bureaus where Heflin’s personal and reported relative info can be objectively and legally sourced. I didn’t spend the money as I think my prior follow-up tells us what we need to know.
Here’s my conclusion and summary:
- Heflin didn’t kill herself. She may have “killed” her blog and her online persona but there is no objective evidence that she is physically no longer alive. If anyone reading my post knows otherwise please respond.
- She obviously has mental problems which you folks have previously called out.
- As many of you know and have previously called out women are really good at threatening suicide, not so good at actually doing it, particularly with a gun and particularly if they have a three year old child. Men on the other hand are really good at not threatening suicide but actually just doing it. Go figure.
There is always a chance that she killed herself in another county or it hasn’t been reported yet, but it is extremely unlikely. This chick is twenty years old. She has no clue that the lies that she has posted on her blog or on this obit site can’t be replicated and are subject to objective fact checking in the real world.
This also highlights the good that the MRM has done. Credit to Paul and his crew. Most everyone took the high road on this deal and it really shows where men are as a group. It also highlights the type of false claims that feminists will pitch when pushed to justify their misandric positions.
Finally, I’ve got no reason to lie about any of this. I’ve got the professional background to confirm my expertise in this area. That said it’s really no one’s business. If anyone wants to replicate the follow-up they should go for it. Until that time as far as I’m concerned Heflin is alive and trying to stroke all of us. I’ll defer to Paul on a final call.
Another reason I am 99.999999% sure this is a hoax (apart from what you’ve said here and my own thoughts above), is the conspicuous lack of comments from our old rival: Mr D.
FattrollFutrelle…In stark contrast, he has had plenty of snide commentary and sarcasm to sling at The Spearhead and other blogs for (what Fatrelle and his ‘kittens’ perceive as) their blatant misogynist comments, that he mined and quoted: about the Aurora Colarado cinema massacre, but NOT ONE WORD about Krista and her supposed suicide!
If this was real (and even if Krista couldn’t stand the two-faced lying hypocrite: Futrelle), the story of her death and its apparent link to MRA’s should be his biggest opportunity ever to really annihilate us, not only on the Internet, but in MSM as well.
Especially since this supposed significant event, is unlike the Aurora massacre: directly related to the MRM.
WHY HASN’T HE (and many other man-hating, tunnel visioned, bigotted feminazis and manginas) cashed in on this ‘golden opportunity’?
The “Futrelle” guy is, you have to admit, inspirational. Look at the nicknames he has inspired: Fatroll, Feminist Fatboy, Fooltroll, Fartreal, Man Booze. I’m sure there are more to come.
Phenomenally good work. The fact that she’s back and posting and creepier than ever indicates that the diagnosis of some sort of psychosis (my guess is some variation of Borderline Personality or Histrionic Personality Disorder) is likely.
For whatever reason, this smelled real to me at first, but I never thought the doubters were stupid. One thing that would be consistent with virtually any personality type that would fake a suicide is that they would reappear in short order.
The woman is a danger to herself and others. I’m more worried than ever about her child.
The lack of celebration at her “demise” no doubt forced her re-appearance sooner rather than later.
She was given no ammunition to say, “Look I was right. These guys just hate all women because they really, really despise the fact that I want to kill or castrate every person born with a penis.”
We did not feed her logical fallacy troll and, now it is pissed.
PHX , astonishingly good work many thanks !
There has been a change on the suspect’s website plus an apparently new Youtube post. This episode prompted me to update my “Misandric Fixation” postings with the work of this product of our no-child-left-unindoctrinated conditioning system. I think her (I’m assuming it is a female marxist, rather than a male marxist — such as Man Booze — pretending to be a female) posts are a valuable document, regardless of any hoaxing or other posturing nonsense. They still do a good job of articulating the views of progressive social engineering types and thus are a welcome source of illustrative quotes useful for instructing young folks on the meaning of “social justice” ideas.
well she is back , and making threats to the 16 year old kid who challenged her over her comments but still had enough humanity to feel back at the loss of life, this is where we need to rally , to make sure than one of our own is looked after and protected, even if it was just an oline threat thrown out there , i dont give a crap about this animal now, she used the story about suicide as a weapon i have no desire to give a shit now.
My view is that we should care. The writings by this eugenicist must be preserved. We need to make sure all her writings are copied and saved, so that they can be used as a teaching tool. Compare it to Mein Kampf. We should care about ideological writings by sociopaths who promote big gov’t/big pharma social engineering eugenics. Especially now that the Bill of Rights has been 98% gutted by the bankster-bribed Republicans and Democrats. The writings by this would-be concentration camp commandantress are valuable documents and must be discussed. They represent the thoughts (plans) of those who have the identical ideology but do not publicly state the intentions/protocols/policies in blatant detail.
‘well she is back’
Well, of course she is.
There’s no limit to the level of insanity, these self-absorbed psychopaths and ego trippers will sink to, in order to get their next attention fix.
Faking her own death by suicide is just another step in a long line of attention whoring, that has probably been going on from the first day someone unintentionally convinced this young woman that she was a little princess, and should be held unaccountable for her actions.
The cup of feminism runneth over with these types, because feminism provides them with every excuse they will ever need for not growing up, and be responsible adults.
There’s ample opportunity provided by feminism to always put the blame of your own insecurities and short comings on someone else, namely men.
If it were not men being blamed, it would just have been another group of people, and it’s always been that way with these kinds of infantilized adults.
A lot of commenteers in this thread has been excusing the writings of this psycho with her upbringing, all the while continously forgetting, that we only have her own words as proof of a hard upbringing and past.
In light of this recent event, I find it very hard to believe a single one of these claims, and quite frankly, the only thing that stands is her irrational hate of anything male, as well as anyone different from HER perspective.
My guess is that she has probably been leading a quite ‘normal’ and uninteresting life, akin to the lives of millions of other young women, who we see stand united behind the flag of feminism today.
As in millions of self-absorbed, infantilized, unthinking products of a herdmentality gone wild, that is without any kind of empathy or feelings for anyone else but themselves and their next pair of shoes or next handbag, and will remain in this state of socially engineered childish mentality for the rest of their lives.
The master plan worked, and the original financers of this hate ideology must be jumping all over the place in sheer joy:
They’ve finally succeeded in creating the perfect consumer, who DEMANDS to slave all day in meaningless jobs, to support an ever increasing need for useless shit that doesn’t last.
Krista Jane Heflin is just another example of the consequences of all this, and from my point of view it’s going to get a lot worse, before the collapse of Westworld finally comes.
Well Played
Heflin is what is called a “real feminist,” the type that has big plans and whose counterparts hold important positions in government, education, medicine and (thanks to quotas) business. She should be taken seriously as representative of the mindset of well-ensconced feminist “leaders.” She is worth more attention that the average “women’s lib” cliché-spouting abortion-addicted gold-digger who spouts off fake statistics and attempts to manipulate everyone through the threat of false accusations. Governments always, when they get big enough, commit democide. The pre-conditioning for genocide is always in the hands of theorists, planners and, never forget this, historians (who concoct a bogus orthodox history (in this case, “Herstory”) to set the stage for social engineering actions. I respect Femitheist Divine, just as I respect the Bubonic Plague. We should keep an eye on this creature.
Standing ovation.
You said it so much better than I, and you’re quite right: History is in the process of repeating itself, and in light of the last two major collapses in global economy, that eventually led to two world wars, the future does not look too bright.
The Fall of Rome keeps coming to mind.
Indeed. There is much to reflect on related to the Femo-fascist Profanity we have all been party to.
There is nothing anachronistic about this incident. It is a microcosm of the entirety of the feminist movement and a perfect example of what we face.
- Pathological lying and total disregard for the truth
- Lack of remorse, shame or guilt for emotional violence and manipulation
- Total lack of empathy for at least half of humanity
- Callous disregard for the feelings of others
- Grandiose sense of purpose (Theist? Delusions of divinity and a dogmatic faith in the “truth” usually reserved for religious doctrines.)
As for the femofascist as an individual though, she’s no longer of any relevance except as an example. An obscenity to point at in disgust. Either feminists will throw her under the bus or we will repeatedly hang them along side her. She can do no more harm. We all know her number and there’s no need to engage fanatics in good faith. She can be dismissed out of hand or crucified for her utter and total lack of integrity with impunity.
Carlos, Well well well.
I am sniffing for a post of the week and what do I see here ? I see a grand entry here. That’s what I see.
Great post. Thank you.
Example, not individual. The textual evidence is of documentary value. It represents not an odd-ball individual’s thoughts, but more, the entire social engineering “progressive” mindset. The evidence will be preserved and used.
Excellent reply Carlos, all I can add to what you’ve said is, further to that, the best thing we (all MRA’s) can do now is NOTHING…
That is: DON’T visit her blog(s) or view any of her psychotic babbling on You-Tubes, don’t even mention her name (except on Register-Her or similar).
Let her and her loony fans know that we don’t care, by saying nothing. Everytime we discuss her, she gets a little kick out of it – she thinks she’s upset us. Well she hasn’t. She is a JOKE. Her fans are probably even MORE pathetic.
She told us she’s dead: she IS!
This problem child is also an ATTENTION JUNKIE.
Like any junkie, she has an insatiable appetite for her particular drug of addiction and her case it is: ATTENTION.
The best way to ‘treat’ her addiction is the same as for any other junkie: make her go cold turkey. Cut off her supply (of attention), by IGNORING her!
Don’t even sniff her bait – that’s what she and all of them are doing: baiting us. Don’t buy it.
What’s the point in ‘flogging a DEAD (w)horse’ anyway?
Well looks like the B**** cried wolf and now she is calling a war of words it seems.
“This is my Proclamation of War, if that is what you wish. I come bearing a Weapon of Words, which you can never match. I come bearing a desire for peace and the creation of The New World. You come bearing hatred, anger, and insecurity for your own actions which were the direct result of your own allies.
You’ll be praying for hell-fire when I am done here.
…I am not the one to blame…
-Paul Elam Is-
I am The Femitheist… and you should know that by now.”
So I guess she will start her disgustingly vile advocation of male gender mass murder and castration.
It was posted today on her website here:
http://thefemitheist.blogspot.ca/
She has another youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/FemitheistGod?feature=watch
She’s an attention-prostitute. Don’t feed her.
You are putting it more polite then I would there JFinn. But yeah I have to agree with you.
So now this very sick young woman fancies herself “God.”
You know, there used to be a time when a person who believed him- or herself to be God, were taken to the state hospital for observation and treatment. Just sayin’.
Nowadays they tend to just shrug their shoulders and send them home, after explaining to the rest of us that they just have ‘issues’…-even when they kill someone.
She would have fit in perfectly with the Napoleons and the Hitlers, parading around in their straightjackets, though.
I always wondered what happened when several patients claimed to be the same person…
Hmmmmm….god fixation. NPD much.
Maybe. Remember, everybody is and has been somewhere. We all leave tracks regardless of whether we want to or not.
Unless the most important thing in someone’s life is to be invisible then they can normally be tied into reality, objectively and legally.
I actually have better things to do but Fuck It. I’ll spend some more time on this cunt and her proxies. If I find something of interest I’ll post it up.
For the record to the Feminist Loser Bitches reading this blog, this isn’t a threat to illegally chase, find or intimidate you. It is a promise to legally leverage all of my experience to generate every possible piece of available information and data on you and your minions and put it out in front of the world. The world will judge you then.
Now that we know you faked your own suicide it’s game fucking on. You screwed with the wrong crew.
PHX again thanks , she has also been making threats to a kid mrrepzion who posted a video challenging her on the castration fantasies because the kid had enough humanity in him to be upset at the idea of someone killing themselves.
She is a danger, to her daughter and to others this is something we need to be keeping an eye on and challenging , i didnt belive she had killed herself but as someone who has lost friends to suicide i find this evil.
This is one who needs monitored and also needs a place on register-her methinks.
No Problem. Will do the deep dive. Need to start from ground zero to confirm this person actually exists and if so if she actually has a child. Need to figure out how much real truth is out there. Normally it’s easy to lock down on mooks like this because they’ve got too much ego involved in the process to not inadvertently give themselves up. It’s all out there and I just need to get through it.
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A Special Love note to Femitheist – You’ve had your fun. Now it’s time for some reality although it sounds like your quasi supporters also thought you were a total fucking douchebag for the fake suicide thing. If you actually exist as Krista Jane Heflin and have a child it will be confirmed one way or another in the near future. If you are found to be real you need to get some mental health care in the very near future and assure that your child is being appropriately parented if you are too screwed up to handle it. Frankly I think the entire Krista / Lilith thing is total bullshit, but we’ll see.
Based upon your historical output on the web there are legitimate concerns for the health and safety of your child which any reasonable third party would concur with. You should understand that your competence as a parent may well become an issue if you don’t deal with your personal issues expeditiously. This isn’t a threat it is a promise that will be followed up on out of concern for your child. As you know or should know to the extent a child is at risk a range of remedies, both pubic and private, are available to protect her.
I’d just add that you don’t need to do anything right now. It’s on me. Just understand that if and when your parenthood is objectively confirmed unilateral actions will taken to confirm her safety and your competence as a parent. It will all be fair and legal, but you should consider this reasonable and objective approach and to the extent you would like to control your reality going forward take appropriate action now.
Just a heads up…if you wanted to stay lost you haven’t done a great job so far. I’m not going to debate someone who is so consistently fast and loose with truth and reality. What I will do is everything legal to determine if you are in the process of parenting a defenseless child in an objectively unacceptable manner. Trust me when I say that third party professionals will be ready and eager to review the facts to protect this little girl regardless of the number of teenaged boys you want to screw with, the quality and quantity of your goofy feminist new age / rock bullshit videos or your quixotic visions of sapphic superiority. Your not scary, smart, empowered or in control, you’re just you.
If it ends up being that you haven’t or aren’t capable of parenting a little girl then your are just another Dworkin or Daly clone and you’ll be left to stew in your own juices. If you really do have a daughter I’m thinking this is just the start of an ongoing relationship.
You’ve mistaken kindness for weakness, darlin.
WoW this woman is nuttier than squirrel shit, I think that would be the technical term for her disease. I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading and watching a couple of her videos.
Claiming to be God??
Think someone has been neglecting to take their anti-psychotics a little lately.
And of course like it was pointed out above it is a man who caused all this, yup all Paul’s fault because he and others at AVFM decided to expose her hatred and willful desire to inflict reprehensible violence on the men of this world.
Ahh the poor little thing, guess she forget to purchase and wear her big girl panties.
In addition to neglecting her big girl panties, she also seems to have forgotten to slap on her Thorazine patch.
…and, yes, kiddoes…it turns out to be a total HOAX.
No suicide.
Stupid cunt is still ALIVE!
A comment there left by someone named Dana says it all. “It was wrong for you to fake your death and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
Where is the apology – not to the MRM, but to everyone who might have genuinely cared whether she lives or dies? The completely unapologetic nature of this attention-seeking stunt is amazing. As another anonymous commentor put it, “My God, this woman’s batshit crazy!”
I think we and everyone else now knows better than ever, that we have much better things to worry about than what this radfem blogger has to say.
Wow. Such a resounding rebuke for such a heinous lie.
Let’s use it to rebuke other typical feminist’s lies, shall we?
“It was wrong for you to fake SUICIDE and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
“It was wrong for you to make false rape accusations and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
“It was wrong for you to make a false DV allegations and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
“It was wrong for you to wrongly claim your child’s father is a deadbeat and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
“It was wrong for you to lie and say your father molested you/abandoned you/beat you and manipulate others into giving you attention and sympathy.”
But WHY make the poor dears feel any worse than they apparently already do?
Let’s not waste time waiting for an apology from the feminist site claiming THIS site drove her to suicide.
And I am glad the ‘stupid cunt’ (as you so eloquently put it,) is alive. I will never stoop to her level. Never, ever. See, it is not always supercilious to be morally superior.
She pulled a cunning stunt because she’s a …
It’s not bad news that she faked her suicide. Her next videos will surely send more men (and perhaps some women) our way once they see the vile bigotry she holds towards men and the complete void of admonishment by feminist groups that claim to not hate men.
So, is her real name Krista Leighanne Milburn?
I don’t know if you are Krista or not, but I do need to say this. I just deleted your similar comment off of my blog because you used her alleged really real name.
Krista has discovered that she can get stuff yanked on privacy claims. She told youtube that my vid showing her voice lowered to a normal pitch, that it was revealing private voice info. I had to take it down within 72 hrs to prevent my whole channel from getting yanked.
Anyways, what I’m saying is that it’s possible that you are Krista, and are doc dropping yourself, in order to set up a fake privacy claim.
And this new arrest thing is bullshit too, if you ask me. She showed with the fake obit that she is very good at photoshopping realistic looking newspaper clippings.
Scented, I can understand your concerns about stuff getting yanked. However the name thing is real and I am not Krista. Just google the name. You will see the a Baxter County Sheriffs press release and Paragould (AR) newspaper article about the arrest. You can also see her Facebook and twitter accounts.
She admits on her blog site that she did get arrested.
So a person named Krista Leighanne Milburn that looks like all the photos Femitheist has used was arrested. It is, of course, still possible that Femitheist stole Milburns identity.
If you’re not her, sorry to sound suspicious. She (meaning whoever that picture is of) also has a facebook page under the Heflin name at: http://www.facebook.com/krista.heflin.1?sk=wall
Google shows there is more likeliness that this new middle and last name is the woman in the pictures’ legal one, although as Heflin, she’s got other Heflins in her friends. Could one last name be from a brief marriage to the baby’s father? Wouldn’t explain the different middle names though.
At least Arkansas police accept this new one as her name. Her picture is on what seems to be a legit local newspaper’s website as well.
She contacted me while ‘dead’ pretending to be her best friend, and kept admitting to more and more, just to try and tempt me to make a video or blogpost about her (the reaction to her ‘death’ wasn’t large and exciting enough, I guess). I didn’t bite even when the ‘friend’ admitted helping her to fake her death.
Then, a couple days ago, the old vid I did of her a month or so ago, got flagged for privacy. And that’s why I wonder if her real name popping up suddenly both here and at my blog might be TOS-breaking-bait.
Again no need to apologize. I’d be very suspicious too with a construct like Femitheist.
The you tuber that posted the videos, brandxamer, also has one that claims to be of her speaking. In the past brandxamer claimed that she also went by the name Krista Thompson but I don’t see that anymore.
I wonder if brandxamer is in on it or not. The first video has the disinformation of the Heflin name but it was really stupid to have associated details of the arrest with Femitheist as it was then trivial to google it and find the facts.
I think Brandxamer could be her too. She pretends that people who hate her, post revealing things, but the audio has always turned out to have been fucked with, and you can’t see anything clearer than your average UFO ‘proof’ video. You never clearly see her face speaking in the voice they are claiming is hers. Nothing showing her speaking at all. She’s like a house of cards, but very unstable. Built on a lot of lies.
that woman is a sick individual with a lot of spare time…
99/100 chances she has an account here as well as in other places.
Who cares about her name…I wonder?
This thread started from the news of her suicide…apparently an hoax. It has been largely commented.
If she’s alive, fine for her…move on.
Pretty funny. Clearly the pics from the Milburn facebook page are the same as posted on thefemitheist blog on 8/5/12. Since Milburn’s pics are public they would have been easy enough to snag and use as they were on the blog.
I agree with you, this has to be a set up / stroke job. It would be way too easy to find her with this info given there is work info and her sister’s full name posted. Although it probably doesn’t mean anything based upon Milburn’s facebook page and the arrest announcement she was arrested with her “sister & best friend”. Only 26K people live in Paragould, AR, pretty small pond.
As far as I’m concerned Milburn is an innocent third party. If it can be confirmed that this blogger is dragging Ms. Milburn’s identity and images into her drama it may well create some industrial strength hearburn for this stupid bitch.
This will be easy enough to objectively check out. Working some other angles on this deal. Will advise if valid info is found.
Hey Femitheist Chica – If you’re reading this post and you’ve stolen Ms. Milburn’s identity I suggest you take corrective action as soon as practical. Authorities have no sense of humor about this type of thing. In case you haven’t figured it out yet this is kinda a lose / lose deal for you.
Looks like I was wrong. I hadn’t read the post she put up today admitting to being arrested when I put together the previous post. I guess there is still a bit of a chance she is still working the program but it looks doubtful.
Name and photos all match up with facebook, blog and arrest detail for her and her sister.
Little redneck chick from Arkansas. Who would have thought it?
Kudos to the guys that tracked down all of the pieces.
I’m out of this deal. Will defer to prior posters who are professionally qualified to comment and or act on issues previously identified with this person.
This morning in my newsfeed reader was the following blogpost by Femitheist. The blog is now shut down, but she deleted it AFTER my Reader had downloaded the article, so it’s still in there (as an already read item). Here it is:
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YOU WIN.
by Femitheist Divine
Look. I saw that anonymous comment about the Femitheist on that PUBLIC FORUM FROM MY CITY. I just came back here, so please stop.
I quit. You win. I’ve deleted everything and in about an hour I’ll be deleting the entire Blog. I’ve deleted all of my files. I will never return.
You are victorious. You found me. I’m scared. You win.
Okay?
I’m not a God, I’m not anything. It was all a joke at your expense. I didn’t mean anything I’ve ever posted here. I’m just one huge satirist troll. All right? I’m serious. None of this was real. I’m just a joker. So, please do not push any more.
You found me, okay? Please stop. Game over. You win. I lose. I’m stupid. You win.
All right?
The entire Femitheist thing was just a persona to troll, nothing more. It was all fake.
Thank you.
Once again, you win, I lose. Game over for me.
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Nectar – Well Played. I saw the blog was down this morning too, but didn’t get this “final message”.
You guys did a good job on this. She shifted into victim mode pretty damn quickly once her bluff was called. I’m not interested enough to follow to determine if it is really her or not, but it would have been interesting to finally confirm. I hope no innocent third parties got hurt due to her goofiness.
Looks like the good guys won this one.
I just got lucky with the timing of when I went to Google Reader. Once it’s been loaded into the page, and seen/read, there, it retains a copy even when the post gets deleted.
I’m looking now, in another tab, and my Reader page has (maybe) all of her articles stored, from “The Lie of the Patriarchy – The Final Eutopia” (posted April 19) to “YOU WIN” (posted this morning).
It really is hard to remove off of the internet, all traces of what one has previously made public.
She already made a “public farewell” apparently bestowing all her false beliefs…than the fake suicide…then back with all that shit…now once again retreats…to be back soon to try ruin herself and her daughter….in her foolish game
everyone has his/her own fetish…this is hers..not mine
Agreed.
Like a feminist were-puppy, enslaved by the cycle of the moon.
I hope she stays away this time, but she does seem to be a serial flouncer, so I won’t put money on it.
I wrote the comment she is referring to:
Hello Femitheist, you gotta lay off the sauce. Its affecting your blogging!
You can see it here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/paragould-ar/TDUEEHJ952QF2CAP2/p2
I love how offended and scared she is. Because her talk of mass murder and hatred was just a joke but we’ve done something really bad – make her take responsibility for her words.
I actually believe strongly in anonymity online, but like all rights there boundaries and Femitheist was way over the line.
Guess who just crawled out of the sewers again…
http://femitheistreborn.blogspot.com/
“a two year old girl is now without a mother. ”
What a worthless, self-absorbed, PoS (Piece of Shit)! I can only hope that the child is placed in a loving home, of a REAL family with a Mother and Father to care for her and raise her in a healthy environment rather than the cess-pool of this woman’s hatred.
The selfishness, and self-absorption that is necessary to do something like this when you have a child, is beyond me. It would have been better to have put the child up for adoption at birth, to spare her two years of mental abuse by an obviously deranged woman – the proof is in her actions. It is as simple as that – one need not go any farther into her psychosis, although any of her opinions make it clear this is a seriously deranged individual… Typical of many of the Feminist mind-set, who care nothing for anyone other than themselves…