Publishers note: Welcome to Andybob’s Corner.
If you have ever read The Prophet, by Khalil Gibran, you probably understand why the book has become so widely known and revered. Through an uncanny wisdom and skillful, efficient use of prose, Gibran deftly encapsulates many different aspects of common human experience and brings them into the light of understanding. In one small book, fitting easily into the palm of your hand, he cuts to the core of love, friendship, death, grief, marriage, law and other aspects of life that define our existence.
Gibran is who comes to my mind when reading the comments of Andybob here at AVfM. Well, except Gibran never made me pass a mouthful of kung pao shrimp through my nose and onto my monitor.
Our Andybob, a resident prophet among the men and women of this site, has been placing comments here for quite some time. All of them are a cut above. Every last one.
Many of us have pleaded with him for ages to write feature articles, to no avail. It seems that Andybob writes when it strikes him to do so, in a format of his choosing, and prefers not to write more lengthy pieces for publication. Genius is often given to such peccadillos.
And that is fine with us. We will take Andybob as he comes to us.
Also, there is no reason not to bring the mountain to Muhammad. Henceforth, we will occasionally be filling your screen with Andybob’s Corner, a select gathering of comments, all of which were select before we selected them, for a more condensed and intense Andybob Experience. With a word of appreciation for the maestro, we give you installment one. PE
Andybob on:
Rape Hysteria
Questioning the veracity of “rape awareness” must make those who live off it very nervous. One of the most difficult aspects for me to deal with is that most women seem to know that it is a manufactured issue. The behavior and demeanor of most women reveals no fear or wariness of men. Quite the opposite.
They embrace it because it ticks every box. It whips white knights into frenzies of do-gooding; it demonizes men as the source of all societal evil; and, it keeps all of that lovely tax moolah rolling in to combat the ‘epidemic’.
Most importantly, it enables women to wallow in the kind of self-pity they enjoy the most; the kind that permits them to lash out with outrageous accusations and abuse without conscience or consequence.
Rape Hysteria is the Pandora’s Box of feminism. It has unleashed the darkest and most perverse collective instincts of women – from their raw hatred of men, to their compulsion to destroy and corrupt all that is true and just. It is the incarnation of the pointless nihilism that is the heart and soul of the feminist movement.
Putting Rape Hysteria under a microscope will have feminists gunning for the MRM like never before because this is their Holiest of Holies. Reveal the web of lies at its core and you prove the depths which feminists will sink to create a hostile world for men – a world full of abusive alienation and hostile accusation.
on Lesbians and sexual politics
Lesbians barged into gay men’s spaces in droves jabbing their stubby fingers at everyone. Predictably, they proceeded to boss everyone around, making the gay rights movement about them. Note that homosexuality was a criminal offence for MEN ONLY. Lesbianism was never against the law. They had jackshit to whinge about, but they made gay rights about them anyway, and used it as a propaganda vehicle to support feminism.
Notice that GLTT became LGTT? How’s that for petty entitlement? Gay men should have fought back, but, to our everlasting shame, we didn’t. The only gay men who remained in GLTT were slimy political types seeking personal aggrandizement, zeta poodle carriers and moronic party boys who don’t give a shit about anything except the pattern on the umbrella in their drinks. Of course, the MSM focus entirely on this noisy, spangled disco version of real gay men like me: men who know exactly how greedy, relentless and downright shady those lezziefems are and don’t trust them one iota.
On Hypergamy
Hypergamy is feminism’s crazy cousin Ralph. No matter how much they try to ignore him and pretend he doesn’t exist, he keeps popping up plastered at family functions with $5 hookers in tow. Best to pretend he’s from the other side of the family.
We’ve all seen feminists scoff dismissively at the concept of male disposability. They find it laughably absurd. Not hypergamy. That charge makes their heads spin. Like cousin Ralph, it’s more polite to just ignore it.
Why? What is about hypergamy that makes feminists so uncomfortable?
The central tenet of second wave feminism was that lack of opportunities in the workplace forced women to seek financial security through marriage. Feminism was sold as the means by which women could cast off this ‘glorified whoredom’ and attain a measure of independence (which terrified the patriarchy and kept it up nights, or something).
For most people, this all rang true (except the patriarchy part) which is why it was such an easy sell. As Mr. Augen points out, all loving parents wanted to see their daughters well-provided for – as opposed to begging, whoring or being carted off to the Work House. They still do.
No worries. Lots of feminism will cure the world of hypergamy After all, women won’t want to commandeer someone else’s assets when they can earn their own – right?
Right?
Oh dear. It seems that feminism’s most noble claim turned out to be their biggest lie. Despite decades of feminist legislation and ruinously expensive programmes, hypergamy is actually more deeply emedded in our culture than ever before.
Nobody is more celebrated in our culture than the no-talent bimbo thrusting her siliconed assets at an admiring world as she clutches her clueless millionaire/tycoon/movie star/sports star. She is the strong, independent woman of today, making her own rules, grabbing the best-of-everything for herself while she can. Isn’t she great?
Poll females aged 15-25 for their role-models. It won’t be Marie Curie or Amelia Earhart. It’ll be Khloe Kardashian or Coco. Hypergamy is blinged-to-the-max and proudly in-your-face. Popular culture shamelessly panders to the hopes and apirations of women. Therefore, it is no surprise that every facet of it encourages them to view their lives as nothing more than a hypergamous adventure.
It is important to discuss hypergamy because it is the most accessible way to introduce the concept of male disposability. Public examples abound, and everyone is familiar with at least a few women they know who proudly express hypergamous aspirations.
Who cares if cousin Ralph makes Aunty uncomfortable? He’s family.
On Sasha Wiley aka Creepy Bittergirl
Like all self-dramatizing narcissists, this woman’s life is an extended performance which has been painstakingly crafted so that she resembles a radical feminist. Ms. Wiley is a poseur – or, as we say in Australia, a wanker.
Even her epic plainness is manufactured. Look closely. That mousy hair has been very subtly tinted. The secretarial glasses may suggest Women’s Studies major, but I know Prada when I see it. Check out the lacy bra-strap. Can you say sex-positive slutwalker?
I wonder how long she’s been rehearsing the “I feel like I’ve been wronged” speech. How it must have peeved her that her ‘concrete burn’ didn’t show up on camera any more than her swollen knee or ankle.
Her slam poetry was puerile and derivative – watered-down Plath. It was exactly the kind of tediously pedestrian trash that feminists with daddy issues have been spewing ad nauseum the moment Sylvia decided to get back at poor Ted. What a load of old shit.
I despise this creature for what she did to Mr JTO. That took a disturbing amount of arrogance and contempt. No-one deserves to be immortalized as Creepy Bittergrrl more than Ms. Wiley. Outstanding work.
When will Sylvia Plath finally materialize and tell indulgent no-talents like Ms. Wiley to stop ripping off her poetry? The Vancouver art scene deserves better.
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You have a gift. Remember your utility and use your to help us. NOW! Or you will loose your manhood.
A truly wonderful article Andybob. Please keep up the good work. I look forward to your next post.
@ AndyBob
Looks like you’re going to be an author here whether you like it or not. Personally, I would be outraged. I mean this could be a whole new form of raype that has been perpetrated on you. Just think of it, you may in fact be the very first victim of : AUTHORSHIP RAYPE! That being the case, I look forward to reading what you have to say.
@Dr. F
Great work on the painting above, It’s looks like something from a cartoon or animated movie. High quality stuff. Also, do I want to know what the lever next to the painting does when you pull it? You know, the one with the red bulbous tip? LOL!
AUTHORSHIP RAYPE!
Raypity raype raype rapier, wapy wape. waype.
Perseus,
Lol, but please, you must never speak of this again.
AUTHORSHIP RAYPE!
Raypity raype raype rapier, wapy wape. waype.
Duplicate not intended
Hey. I said never speak of this again.
Wow, Andy! Just the first paragraph alone knocked me off my pins.
I’ve never heard it more eloquently put.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/pennsylvania-welfare-benefits-rape_n_2012417.html
I won’t mention my Huffpo “handle”, but suffice to say, I’m the ONLY person there not going into apoplexy that a RAPE VICTIM should be questioned if she actually made a police complaint of rape when claiming welfare benefits for a child she is both claiming is the result of rape and wants welfare benefits to cover.
The ladies will have us believe that women are simply TOO traumatized by rape to report it, but not too traumatized to bring the rapist’s pregnancy to term and KEEP it, while demanding more welfare benefits to pay for it.
This after 30 years of Roe v Wade, abortion law based on rape and incest necessity.
This, while still sing-songing how the GOP are running a WAR ON WOMEN trying to halt abortion rights NECESSARY for RAPE and incest victims!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keli-goff/why-some-women-dont-vote-with-their-vaginas_b_2017126.html
For those who still think women don’t belong in the MRA movement, please note I WAS strenuously attacked, (just as the “stupid GOP guy Mourdock” is being crucified right now) but it has died off quickly speaking as a woman, and as a person who HAS been on welfare (as a kid for 4 years while my Dad recovered from job injuries).
As a woman, I have NEVER met a woman who was RAPED, that brought the rape to term since Roe v Wade, and KEPT the baby, but didn’t report the crime.
I was around before abortion rights. Rape victims DID bring babies to term, then GAVE THEM UP FOR ADOPTION.
I had a dozen attacks waiting for me within ten minutes of posting my first remark.
Now it’s all quiet on the Western front.
For a man, in the current climate, the subject of rape is a “no man’s land”, even though I’ve never heard it better expressed than in these few short AndyBob paragraphs. Pure Gold.
As a woman, I can dare speak the truths so called “free men” are not allowed to speak, and call bullshit on the bullshit claims, but I pray for the day men can “find their voice” – and shut this shit down..
I’ve often argued that a woman who aborts after rape could very possibly get a two for one special in that not only was she raped; but does not feel like she merely “terminated” a fetus of sexual assault. No, many of the women in the “anti-abortion” crowd are women who felt like they murdered their own child afterwards. What makes these geniuses think that a rape victim will feel any differently? Adoption is very likely the way to go in those cases!
Try finding that argument anywhere!
I keep pointing out to people that not all rape victims abort. Some DO have strong religious beliefs and carry to term. There is no small number of loving people ready to adopt.
So that leaves me wondering just how those loving adoptive parents feel hearing “abortion in cases of rape or incest” repeated incessantly.
Even worse, surely those children one day will learn, or realize, they are generally viewed as being so “wrong” they DESERVED to have been aborted.
If my brother hadn’t adopted a child under those circiumstances I guess I too would be oblivious to the effect it must have on those adoptive parents and adopted children.
The child is innocent. The child is completely and totally innocent.
I can tell you, my brother and his wife, as well as our entire family DO regard this little boy as a gift from God while it seems the rest of the world regards him as something that should have been discarded from the start.
I see this as one of those things people look back on and say “How could they have done something like that”?
I hear you; it goes to show just how deeply entrenched these fascists have been able to work their propaganda into the public sub-conscious.
Congratulations Andybob on your first above the line (hereinafter to be reffered to as ATL) article. Nothing to add except it was a succint and excellent piece of work.
Poetry.
I move that a particularly good comment by anyone on AVfM from now on be dubbed “An Andybob.”
I want to add a word of thanks to Dr. F and Roger O Thornhill, who co-created the graphic for Andybob’s corner.
And I agree with Dean. Calling someone an Andybob, or even using the term “Andybob moment” to describe a particularly great comment, is a great compliment.
Andybob is my favorite writer on men’s issues.
“Andybob is my favorite writer on men’s issues.”
If I were allowed only one ‘agreed’-comment all year, this would be the one to receive it.
@Dean Esmay:
You got my vote for comment of the week.
This is a great alternative to an actual article, and I can live with that for now. That doesn’t mean that I’m going to stop pushing him for one in the future, however. You may think your safe at the moment, Andybob,…but you’re not. Sorry.
@Dr. F and Roger O Thornhill:
That is an awesome piece of work. Would it be possible to make a larger size of it? I would like to use it as a background image on my PC, and the current one is a bit too small. I think the picture more than deserves a full screen size.
Kimski,
I’ll send you a bigger version of it if you like. Email me to let me know what size you’d like, ok.
To Roger,
Your Photoshop skills are wonderful. Thank you.
Expect an email in 10 minutes, mate.
Dr F, thank you for the compliment! It was fun to be your assistant.
I really just painted by your numbers.
Dr. F and Roger, this image is a fucking crack up…….lmao………
“bltbltblt”
-andybob
A great article Andybob, I look forward to seeing more from you here in the future!
And thank-you Paul for your kind mention of my small contribution here.
In my minds eye I feel that Dr F and I galvanized each others talents, much like those two great Liverpudlian songsmiths of the 1960′s did.
Dr F, on the other hand will probably tell you that it felt like it was a cold wet day in New York in the year 1974 for him. And that my accent was distinctly Japanese, whiney and female!
If this is the kind of art you can make, you can be just as Japanese, whiney and female as you like.
Ono Kimski no one needs that!
Thank you
I have to admit, for a collection of comments this made one hell of a great article. Mr. Andybob certainly has a talent for words. It’s a shame he won’t write articles. This is great nonetheless.
A+
I need more Andybob!
Andybob,
When you accepted my illustration for your grav over a year ago I was delighted. Now I have something to confess to you.
You never budged when I nagged you to write an article. You always laughed it off. Well take a closer look at the painting on the wall mate.
That tongue is me saying to you in all languages understood. “Nyar nyar.”
You are now officially “out”, but this time by the hand of others.
Oh it’s a riot Alice.
Thanks for collecting these together, a pleasure to re read them,I’ve done it twice and will come back again later! to this bookmarked page. Hope I can remember a few of the gems here to drop into conversation at appropriate times, “as andybob would say …”
Agree Dr C. I have always enjoyed Andybob’s musings.
It is a pleasure to re-read them.
That is just fantastic, look forward to more.
Holy Sh*t! This stuff is gold. Pure gold. The bit on hypergamy is priceless. I see cousin Ralph everywhere. Lol.
That last comment of his had me in stitches; dang I laugh hard. Thanks andybob for splitting my side open.
I also love how in his corner, he has an amazing door with which to pull the trapdoor handle so no one can see him.
I wonder if his picture is a voyeur’s window? Note to self, don’t stand in front of picture. LOL
Perfect. andybob where he belongs – at the top of the page.
Grace of gawd, I just done tripped and fell into a vat of nirvana.. thick as molasses …
Inspired endeavor, whoever hatched this one..
“Of course, the MSM focus entirely on this noisy, spangled disco version of real gay men like me: men who know exactly how greedy, relentless and downright shady those lezziefems are and don’t trust them one iota.”
I’ve come across a lot of people over the course of my life, a whole range of people, a wide variety.. different cultures, different backgrounds, different types and different temperaments. Shady people, adversarial people, etc..
I can tell you that where I have experienced the most uniquely sinister, hating and conspiratorial sensation has been from encounters with true-blood lesbian femmies. It’s as if they can barely contain their loathing. They have that look of someone who has been talking insane shit about you, conspiring and plotting intensely against you, and would stab you right on the spot if they could get away with it.
Lesbian feminists place themselves behind the scenes, using hetero-females as their curtain. They regard hetero-females as immature, naive useful idiots, the former using the collective sexual and feminine power over men, of the latter, as the levers of manipulation that they wield. How far do you think a bunch of gumballs like Naomi Wolf could really have taken this thing?
Lesbian femmies, we’ve got an eye on you, you’re on notice.
Considering how utterly disposable regular females regard males as, how amplified does that disposability become to a creature which doesn’t even see that shred of value in him as a heterosexual mating utility?
Their hatred for males manifests in two objectives: 1) to injure and destroy and 2) to manipulate and control, to the fullest extent possible.
Nuttin wrong with bein gay. Somethin wrong with acts of evil..
Perseus, there is something compelling about your comments.
Externalangst,
Agreed, he’s one I always read and enjoy.
Efficiency with words is often much more effective than 500 word essays, especially in this instant Twitter world of sound bites.
Andy-B cuts through the crap, gets to the point and stays on it.
andybob, you’ve made the Big Time!
http://manboobz.com/2012/10/26/over-on-a-voice-for-men-a-gay-mra-takes-on-the-real-enemy-stubby-fingered-lesbians/
Just a matter of time.
Went over there to have a look-see, and was less than surprised to discover, that the only one who still takes manblob serious is manblob.
I don’t know why that guy reminds me so much of a jellyfish.
Must be the lack of brain tissue.
*Oddly enough,* I envision a fat drooling cartoon baby, sitting in a stinky diaper, frantically waving a rattle around, and making those demanding, inarticulate “Enh! Enh!” noises.
Yeah, I feel for the woman’s eyes at the fetish house he has to frequent in a diaper, pacifier, and paddle. The damage to that poor degenerate feminist’s eyes must be terrible!
I hope Obamacare covers her health care in glasses after seeing manblob in action! LOL
Suz,
Imagine no more. May I present some of my cartoons and in there you will find a “blob” of David here and there.
Enjoy.
http://www.artistryagainstmisandry.com/Dr–F.html
Ew. Worse – and better – than I imagined!
(Aimee pouts)…wanna hit the big time of Manboobs pages…SIGH
Sammichs for anyone?
LOL, that idiot manboobed me a month ago or so? Honestly, I think I made an impression on a few women who saw me in a different light! The rest are beyond saving, its obvious!
Thanks again Dave; I really hoped you loved my title I gave you too; that “special grammer” was just for you and your cookies troop of geriatric throwbacks.
I was hoping that maybe a few of his useful tools over there might get it? Apparently not. Their useless analysis of Andybob’s comments are proof positive of that.
Here is the “a-hole” monologue he quoted me from-
http://gloriusbastard.com/?p=835
His critique of me-
http://manboobz.com/2012/09/25/the-asshole-monologues-glori-us-bastard-tells-feminist-american-woman-and-white-knights-whats-what/
and my reply to his article-
http://gloriusbastard.com/?p=894
I was not exactly reserved in my responses title of course; but that was the point. I sure did get a kick out of their comment section though. I loved it!
They actually think that their judgements are a pure reflection of me emmantating from their inner core of kitten pals whilst eating their bon bons; lamenting how they are soo much smarter than all of the goofy menz who they are obviously too good for. That is also why we don’t take their wonderful attitudes off the market mind you; they are better than us. Uh-huh, sure they are.
I do agree partially, that they are too much for us! Thats is only because I feel their body makeup is informing them to lay off the oreos and cake frosting amidst their obvious lack of struggle with self-depression.
I can see no better punishment than allowing them to stay as they are; their reflection, coupled with their mental and emotional denial of what they see in the mirror; and their forced affinity for the poor cats they pet too much in place of a husband is poetic justice enough!
Too bad those old broads are going to push themselves off the Social Security checks reservation; alone. Hahahahahahaha
Oh look, Ephialtes has a crush on Sir andybob. How cute. What a transparent cunt.
Ephialtes ehimae problema, ohi andros ti kanete tipota afto tuvalo. Then ekei, or etho, skata tou matra sou kai ai gamisou
Hahahahahahaha
In English: Ephialtes (being the traitor at Thermopyles) has a problem, no man will anything to do with that brick. Not here, or there, (and a list of expletives not needed to be translated.
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By god, what an honour. I see Manboobees has issued a challenge: “Andybob only dealt with the first two letters of the LGBT acronym; I shudder to think what he must feel about the other two.”
LOL; I guess we may already know now what Andybob is going to write about!
Thanks Manboobs; now put the crystal balls back where you got them. LOL
Yeah, because he so thoroughly hated my article, simply because I fell under the “B” in the acronym.
Sorry: OT but necessary. A post from Iron Man on the forum:
Hello all. For those of you who did not catch the show on AVfM radio last night you might still be unaware that Eric Duckman, a tireless crusader for the MRM, has found himself in dire straits. As we all know, he was arrested for spray painting the AVfM logo on a subway station located in Edmonton, Canada several months ago. With some help, he managed to pay the fine which resulted from the offense. Now, the state could have just let it go, taxes being what they are graffiti removal would undoubtedly be included in any responsible city budget. To that end, they have charged Eric Duckman: twelve hundred dollars. This sum is roughly twice as much as the initial fine. While the city claims this is a removal fee, I cannot imagine any reasonable contractor charging this amount for paint remover, brushes, and a few hours work. I think you see why this exorbitant fee is being charged. We cannot just let one of our own be swallowed up by the system. I am asking anyone reading this message, friendly to the MRM, to visit Eric Duckman’s site and donate as much as you can towards paying off this outrageous fee. I don’t think I need to tell anyone what will happen to him if that fine goes unpaid.
http://mensrightsedmonton.com/
Please, please help Eric. I know him personally and he is a very committed MRA and a really nice guy. Even $5 will help…
OK – back on topic.
Why is he tagging on property that’s not his own? That’s not activism, that’s just asking to be swallowed. If he wants help, you can at least drop the attempt to cast him as a victim. He put himself in that hole.
The city cracks down on tagging so hard because it considers it a means to inspire gang-activity. That’s not the connotation that AVfM or the “MRM” needs.
I think it’s time he rethink his strategy.
I agree with you: what he did was unwise and I hope that he may take stock before doing that again in the future. Another thing: the words were Iron Man’s – not mine; secondly, even if they were my words, they would not be casting him as a victim, they would be casting him as a friend.
Very high praise and much appreciated.
AVFM is the Gold Standard site for the MRM. Articles are original, insightful, and above all else, honest. It is the honesty which reached through my monitor and smacked me upside the head and said, “Here, educate yourself.”
I devoured the articles and comments for a very long time before I ever commented. It was nothing short of an epiphany to discover that my escalating anger and frustration could be articulated so intelligently. Paul Elam and Manuel Dexter/John the Other connected the dots in ways that resonated deeply.
My screen name is a combination of two men I love with all my heart: my partner (Andy) and my late father (Bob). I wanted my name to symbolize that my intention was to stand up for the rights and welfare of all men – regardless of their sexuality.
I see that David Futrelle couldn’t leave well enough alone. How I pity him. Yes, you read that correctly. I actually pity him. It is only recently that I figured out why. In the spirit of this post and the interests of Saturday afternoon laziness, allow me to quote myself:
“When David Futrelle established Manboobz, I think he expected to be the doyenne of a hip, happening beacon of feminist chic. Instead, he became the caretaker of a shelter for misfits, hypochondriacs and the chronically weird.
It hardly matters what topic Mr Futrelle features, the commentariat, all bathrobes and sniffles, ignore it and go back to boasting about their endless array of ailments. These sad-sacks have every single disorder Oprah ever popularized. Half of them are shut-ins on disability.
Don’t even get them started on their tragic histories. Yet, miraculously, they are all in marvelous relationships with awesome men who love, love, love them just the way they are – medicated or not. One can only imagine just how jarring it must be for them to contrast their on-line fantasies with reality.
Is there any wonder that David Futrelle struggles to conceal his contempt for these pathetic souls? Read carefully – he loathes these women.
He longed to be at A-list NOW cocktail parties quaffing Bolinger with Naomi Woolf. Instead, he’s stuck swilling boxed wine and aspirin, listening to dreary, teary wallflowers swapping organic eczema remedies.
David Futrelle is stuck in Manboobz Hell watching his quest for relevance crumble to dust. How he must hate his life.”
I know it’s his own fault, but I still pity him.
To Roger O’Thornhill and my old friend, Dr F, thankyou for the superb graphics. Your good humour and endless encouragement are greatly valued (as is having the coolest gravatar ever).
Now, if only we could divert some of the article pressure onto someone who has real talent: Ms Suz…
Muahahahahahahahahahaha-
your original comment on manboob is something I remember; and it made me laugh hysterically again.
Cheers
G’day matey,
You certainly pulled the lever on that one for Mr Futrelle.
I’m glad the aperture was wide enough for a total flush as a “Winnie the Pooh” moment would have been dreadfully embarrassing.
Good on you our AndyBob.
P.S.
Thanks for the kind re: my grav but I am confused. Are you saying that your grav is not as good as mine ? Mate I drew your grav as well, and now you are saying it’s not as cool ?
I am confused and a victim and I am going to milk this moment.
Hi andybob,
I’m glad you like the andybob’s corner image. Dr F sketched out his idea in great detail with instructions, and I just cobbled together bits and pieces I found on Google. I did add a dash of digital Jiggery Pokery though
I did enjoy your article, the only way I can describe it with my limited vocabulary is “incisive”.
I have to admit, I have done a digital makeover or two for David Futrelle in the past. Here is what he looked like before I took to him with my digital makeup kit.
http://www.nationalcynical.com/images/computerbettermaintained.jpg
Agape
I definitely would compare him to Khalil Gibran. Definitely. No questions asked. Why not throw a little Dostoyevsky, Hugo or Balzac for good measure?
Damn. I was so happy to find a movement I could embrace… until I read Andybobs post on lesbians in the gay community. Lesbians for the most part have been staunch allies. Lesbians for the most part are not angry man hating neanderthals. Lesbians stepped up in droves to provide care during the height of the AIDS crisis when most people were scared to even touch a gay man. I am a gay man, strongly believe in the overall messages of the mra movement. Sadly by embracing opinions such as andybobs you are not much different from the feminist you complain so much about. Damn, this really sucks but gotta say goodbye. So disapointed.
I’m glad you have some positive experience with the lesbians you have encountered while living in the U.S.A.
Please send some of them to Australia, where the extremely powerful political wing of the lesbian community has worked tirelessly to create outrageously misandric legislation with such devastating results.
Lesbians did absolutely nothing to help gay men during the AIDS crisis in Australia except to crow that their community had the lowest incidence of AIDS which reflected their moral and physical superiority. They wouldn’t even participate in fund-raising. Look it up.
The fact is, lesbians have to speak up against the rampant misandry within the radical feminism they invariably embrace. They have failed to ‘step up’ or ‘care’ about men, gay or straight, when doing so would make such a difference.
I stand by what I wrote. It is now time for lesbians to either refute the violent bigotry within their community, or be called on their cowardice for not doing so.
If the lesbians within your aquaintance are so supportive of men’s rights, kindly point to where any of them have publicly proclaimed it…
Thought not.